Teacher Sues After Being Fired For Refusing To Use Transgender Student’s ‘Preferred Pronoun

[martybegan]

It's called reality. Trans people can only become impersonations of the sex they want to be, they cannot become the sex they want to be.

So? What does this have to do with anybody's "conscience"? What else are these types going to think up and try to pass off as a "religious belief"? Don't lose sight of the fact that there is another person involved here: the student. The teacher is supposed to be the adult in the room.

This has to do with people like you thinking using the State to force people how to act over a matter of fucking pronouns.

The student is a victim here. Sorry, but treating supposed gender dysphoria at such an early age it tantamount to child abuse.

If the kid thinks they are a puppy should we let them shit in the playground?

Your boss tells you how you are to address a student
You intentionally do otherwise
You get fired for it

That is the way things work

The boss tells you to eat pork in the cafeteria and you are jewish.

You refuse.

You are fired.

Yes, and exaggeration, but its an example of your line of logic.

In the case of a government job, employees have more rights than in the private sector.

What you eat for lunch has no bearing on how you perform your job

How you treat your student does

He used a neutral term, didn't use the actual pronoun of the student in question.

Not good enough for the SJW Gestapo.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's called reality. Trans people can only become impersonations of the sex they want to be, they cannot become the sex they want to be.

So? What does this have to do with anybody's "conscience"? What else are these types going to think up and try to pass off as a "religious belief"? Don't lose sight of the fact that there is another person involved here: the student. The teacher is supposed to be the adult in the room.

This has to do with people like you thinking using the State to force people how to act over a matter of fucking pronouns.

The student is a victim here. Sorry, but treating supposed gender dysphoria at such an early age it tantamount to child abuse.

If the kid thinks they are a puppy should we let them shit in the playground?

Your boss tells you how you are to address a student
You intentionally do otherwise
You get fired for it

That is the way things work

The boss tells you to eat pork in the cafeteria and you are jewish.

You refuse.

You are fired.

Yes, and exaggeration, but its an example of your line of logic.

In the case of a government job, employees have more rights than in the private sector.

What you eat for lunch has no bearing on how you perform your job

How you treat your student does

So you lie to it?

.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Child cruelty sending your kid to public schools.
Fired for not using Orwellian speech, welcome to the 21st Century.

A Virginia high school teacher who was fired for refusing to use a transgender student’s preferred pronouns has filed a lawsuit against the school district.

Officials at West Point High School, about 40 miles east of Richmond, cited nondiscrimination and anti-harassment policies in December when it terminated French teacher Peter Vlaming over his refusal to call a female-to-male transgender student by his preferred pronoun.

But Vlaming fired back in a lawsuit filed on Monday, accusing the West Point School Board of violating his right to free speech. He said he was fired because he avoided using pronouns all together when referring to the student, who was transitioning to male at the time.

Using male pronouns, such as “him” and “he” when addressing the student would have violated his “conscience,” Vlaming said in the suit, citing religious beliefs.

He said school administrators eventually gave him an ultimatum: either use male pronouns or risk losing his job.

“Defendants made up an uncompromising interpretation of their policies to compel Mr. Vlaming to take sides in an ongoing public debate regarding gender dysphoria and use pronouns that express an objectively untrue ideological message,” the lawsuit says. “Mr. Vlaming’s conscience and religious practice prohibits him from intentionally lying, and he sincerely believes that referring to a female student as a male by using an objectively male pronoun is telling a lie.”

Teacher sues after being fired for refusing to use student's preferred pronouns

“He said school administrators eventually gave him an ultimatum: either use male pronouns or risk losing his job.”


All we need to know

It’s a female, shitforbrains.
Next kid says she’s a cat you want teachers fired for not supplying a sandbox to crap in?

He was instructed on how to refer to the student
He refused to do so
He was fired for it

Too freaking bad

Not a sheep, free speech?

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[rightwinger]

So? What does this have to do with anybody's "conscience"? What else are these types going to think up and try to pass off as a "religious belief"? Don't lose sight of the fact that there is another person involved here: the student. The teacher is supposed to be the adult in the room.

This has to do with people like you thinking using the State to force people how to act over a matter of fucking pronouns.

The student is a victim here. Sorry, but treating supposed gender dysphoria at such an early age it tantamount to child abuse.

If the kid thinks they are a puppy should we let them shit in the playground?

Your boss tells you how you are to address a student
You intentionally do otherwise
You get fired for it

That is the way things work

The boss tells you to eat pork in the cafeteria and you are jewish.

You refuse.

You are fired.

Yes, and exaggeration, but its an example of your line of logic.

In the case of a government job, employees have more rights than in the private sector.

What you eat for lunch has no bearing on how you perform your job

How you treat your student does

He used a neutral term, didn't use the actual pronoun of the student in question.

Not good enough for the SJW Gestapo.

He violated a direct order on how that student should be addressed

The student is having a hard enough time adjusting to his new gender
Teachers are supposed to make it easier

 

[martybegan]

This has to do with people like you thinking using the State to force people how to act over a matter of fucking pronouns.

The student is a victim here. Sorry, but treating supposed gender dysphoria at such an early age it tantamount to child abuse.

If the kid thinks they are a puppy should we let them shit in the playground?

Your boss tells you how you are to address a student
You intentionally do otherwise
You get fired for it

That is the way things work

The boss tells you to eat pork in the cafeteria and you are jewish.

You refuse.

You are fired.

Yes, and exaggeration, but its an example of your line of logic.

In the case of a government job, employees have more rights than in the private sector.

What you eat for lunch has no bearing on how you perform your job

How you treat your student does

He used a neutral term, didn't use the actual pronoun of the student in question.

Not good enough for the SJW Gestapo.

He violated a direct order on how that student should be addressed

The student is having a hard enough time adjusting to his new gender
Teachers are supposed to make it easier

Sorry, the child doesn't have a "new gender".

At that age they should not be subjected to something they may grow out of.

All this shit should wait until they are 18 at least.

 

[alang1216]

Seems like we should be able to live together:

• Call people what they wish to be called
• If that conflicts with your beliefs either don't talk to them or work out some mutually acceptable compromise.

I won't call a person what they desire to be called if they try to force me to.

At that point I will call them what I want on general principle.

Then be prepared to pay the consequences.

 

[martybegan]

Seems like we should be able to live together:

• Call people what they wish to be called
• If that conflicts with your beliefs either don't talk to them or work out some mutually acceptable compromise.

I won't call a person what they desire to be called if they try to force me to.

At that point I will call them what I want on general principle.

Then be prepared to pay the consequences.

Wow, a threat. Better yet a threat you make while hiding behind the daddy pants of government, like the cowardly fuck that you are.

 

[Unkotare]

This has to do with people like you thinking using the State to force people how to act over a matter of fucking pronouns.

The student is a victim here. Sorry, but treating supposed gender dysphoria at such an early age it tantamount to child abuse.

If the kid thinks they are a puppy should we let them shit in the playground?

Your boss tells you how you are to address a student
You intentionally do otherwise
You get fired for it

That is the way things work

The boss tells you to eat pork in the cafeteria and you are jewish.

You refuse.

You are fired.

Yes, and exaggeration, but its an example of your line of logic.

In the case of a government job, employees have more rights than in the private sector.

What you eat for lunch has no bearing on how you perform your job

How you treat your student does

He used a neutral term, didn't use the actual pronoun of the student in question.

Not good enough for the SJW Gestapo.

He violated a direct order on how that student should be addressed.....

What an obedient little nazi you are.

 

[rightwinger]

Your boss tells you how you are to address a student
You intentionally do otherwise
You get fired for it

That is the way things work

The boss tells you to eat pork in the cafeteria and you are jewish.

You refuse.

You are fired.

Yes, and exaggeration, but its an example of your line of logic.

In the case of a government job, employees have more rights than in the private sector.

What you eat for lunch has no bearing on how you perform your job

How you treat your student does

He used a neutral term, didn't use the actual pronoun of the student in question.

Not good enough for the SJW Gestapo.

He violated a direct order on how that student should be addressed

The student is having a hard enough time adjusting to his new gender
Teachers are supposed to make it easier

Sorry, the child doesn't have a "new gender".

At that age they should not be subjected to something they may grow out of.

All this shit should wait until they are 18 at least.

What evidence do you have that a child can not recognize they are another gender until they are 18?

 

[rightwinger]

Your boss tells you how you are to address a student
You intentionally do otherwise
You get fired for it

That is the way things work

The boss tells you to eat pork in the cafeteria and you are jewish.

You refuse.

You are fired.

Yes, and exaggeration, but its an example of your line of logic.

In the case of a government job, employees have more rights than in the private sector.

What you eat for lunch has no bearing on how you perform your job

How you treat your student does

He used a neutral term, didn't use the actual pronoun of the student in question.

Not good enough for the SJW Gestapo.

He violated a direct order on how that student should be addressed.....

What an obedient little nazi you are.

Wrong

 

[martybegan]

The boss tells you to eat pork in the cafeteria and you are jewish.

You refuse.

You are fired.

Yes, and exaggeration, but its an example of your line of logic.

In the case of a government job, employees have more rights than in the private sector.

What you eat for lunch has no bearing on how you perform your job

How you treat your student does

He used a neutral term, didn't use the actual pronoun of the student in question.

Not good enough for the SJW Gestapo.

He violated a direct order on how that student should be addressed

The student is having a hard enough time adjusting to his new gender
Teachers are supposed to make it easier

Sorry, the child doesn't have a "new gender".

At that age they should not be subjected to something they may grow out of.

All this shit should wait until they are 18 at least.

What evidence do you have that a child can not recognize they are another gender until they are 18?

What evidence is there that allowing them to begin to transition before puberty is a good idea?

When morons like you want to make changes like this shit the burden is ON YOU to show it's viable and valid.

 

[rightwinger]

He said school administrators eventually gave him an ultimatum: either use male pronouns or risk losing his job.


Somehow, he was surprised as to why he was fired

 

[rightwinger]

What you eat for lunch has no bearing on how you perform your job

How you treat your student does

He used a neutral term, didn't use the actual pronoun of the student in question.

Not good enough for the SJW Gestapo.

He violated a direct order on how that student should be addressed

The student is having a hard enough time adjusting to his new gender
Teachers are supposed to make it easier

Sorry, the child doesn't have a "new gender".

At that age they should not be subjected to something they may grow out of.

All this shit should wait until they are 18 at least.

What evidence do you have that a child can not recognize they are another gender until they are 18?

What evidence is there that allowing them to begin to transition before puberty is a good idea?

When morons like you want to make changes like this shit the burden is ON YOU to show it's viable and valid.

The student is in high school, puberty generally has started
The evidence I have is that the transition process was ongoing. The teacher was warned about how he should refer to the student and intentionally did otherwise.

It is not up to a teacher to decide whether gender transition should be happening

 

[alang1216]

Seems like we should be able to live together:

• Call people what they wish to be called
• If that conflicts with your beliefs either don't talk to them or work out some mutually acceptable compromise.

I won't call a person what they desire to be called if they try to force me to.

At that point I will call them what I want on general principle.

Then be prepared to pay the consequences.

Wow, a threat. Better yet a threat you make while hiding behind the daddy pants of government, like the cowardly fuck that you are.

A threat would be something adverse to you I was prepared to execute myself. Not the case, it is a warning, as in a courtesy message urging caution on you.

I certainly admire the theoretical courage of your convictions while anonymously posting on the web.

 

[martybegan]

He used a neutral term, didn't use the actual pronoun of the student in question.

Not good enough for the SJW Gestapo.

He violated a direct order on how that student should be addressed

The student is having a hard enough time adjusting to his new gender
Teachers are supposed to make it easier

Sorry, the child doesn't have a "new gender".

At that age they should not be subjected to something they may grow out of.

All this shit should wait until they are 18 at least.

What evidence do you have that a child can not recognize they are another gender until they are 18?

What evidence is there that allowing them to begin to transition before puberty is a good idea?

When morons like you want to make changes like this shit the burden is ON YOU to show it's viable and valid.

The student is in high school, puberty generally has started
The evidence I have is that the transition process was ongoing. The teacher was warned about how he should refer to the student and intentionally did otherwise.

It is not up to a teacher to decide whether gender transition should be happening

Even worse, now they are probably disrupting a natural process in the name of junk science.

The teacher used neutral terms. If that isn't good enough for a fascist twat like you and the school board, it's time to burn the system down.

 

[rightwinger]

He violated a direct order on how that student should be addressed

The student is having a hard enough time adjusting to his new gender
Teachers are supposed to make it easier

Sorry, the child doesn't have a "new gender".

At that age they should not be subjected to something they may grow out of.

All this shit should wait until they are 18 at least.

What evidence do you have that a child can not recognize they are another gender until they are 18?

What evidence is there that allowing them to begin to transition before puberty is a good idea?

When morons like you want to make changes like this shit the burden is ON YOU to show it's viable and valid.

The student is in high school, puberty generally has started
The evidence I have is that the transition process was ongoing. The teacher was warned about how he should refer to the student and intentionally did otherwise.

It is not up to a teacher to decide whether gender transition should be happening

Even worse, now they are probably disrupting a natural process in the name of junk science.

The teacher used neutral terms. If that isn't good enough for a fascist twat like you and the school board, it's time to burn the system down.

It is not the teachers responsibility to declare transgenderism to be junk science

The decision is up to the student and his parents. This decision is not frivolous and usually will include doctors, psychologists and social workers

The kid will have a hard enough time dealing with fellow students, he doesn’t need a teacher participating

 

[martybegan]

Sorry, the child doesn't have a "new gender".

At that age they should not be subjected to something they may grow out of.

All this shit should wait until they are 18 at least.

What evidence do you have that a child can not recognize they are another gender until they are 18?

What evidence is there that allowing them to begin to transition before puberty is a good idea?

When morons like you want to make changes like this shit the burden is ON YOU to show it's viable and valid.

The student is in high school, puberty generally has started
The evidence I have is that the transition process was ongoing. The teacher was warned about how he should refer to the student and intentionally did otherwise.

It is not up to a teacher to decide whether gender transition should be happening

Even worse, now they are probably disrupting a natural process in the name of junk science.

The teacher used neutral terms. If that isn't good enough for a fascist twat like you and the school board, it's time to burn the system down.

It is not the teachers responsibility to declare transgenderism to be junk science

The decision is up to the student and his parents. This decision is not frivolous and usually will include doctors, psychologists and social workers

The kid will have a hard enough time dealing with fellow students, he doesn’t need a teacher participating

It is not the State's responsibility to pick the exact pronoun a teacher uses to address a student.

The kid is being used as a sacrifice to the Transgender gods.

 

[Grace Is Stoked]

I'm personally torn on this topic. I can understand where the student and the school administration are coming from, however, I also believe that there is a responsibility of the student to share an understanding that there are differences of beliefs as well and that those differences might be directed at them, and so ultimately there is a need to have mutual respect for that fact. A respectful compromise seemed like the most reasonable route for both sides but obviously that didn't seem to be the case. Minds and hearts rarely change due to force in my opinion.

 

[rightwinger]

What evidence do you have that a child can not recognize they are another gender until they are 18?

What evidence is there that allowing them to begin to transition before puberty is a good idea?

When morons like you want to make changes like this shit the burden is ON YOU to show it's viable and valid.

The student is in high school, puberty generally has started
The evidence I have is that the transition process was ongoing. The teacher was warned about how he should refer to the student and intentionally did otherwise.

It is not up to a teacher to decide whether gender transition should be happening

Even worse, now they are probably disrupting a natural process in the name of junk science.

The teacher used neutral terms. If that isn't good enough for a fascist twat like you and the school board, it's time to burn the system down.

It is not the teachers responsibility to declare transgenderism to be junk science

The decision is up to the student and his parents. This decision is not frivolous and usually will include doctors, psychologists and social workers

The kid will have a hard enough time dealing with fellow students, he doesn’t need a teacher participating

It is not the State's responsibility to pick the exact pronoun a teacher uses to address a student.

The kid is being used as a sacrifice to the Transgender gods.

It is the school, not the state

A school has a responsibility to define teacher conduct. He ignored specific instruction

 

[SweetSue92]

Referring to an individual by one pronoun or another is now a religious belief??? The "religion" thing has become too nutty to be believed. I can't wait for the next whine.

It's called reality. Trans people can only become impersonations of the sex they want to be, they cannot become the sex they want to be.

So? What does this have to do with anybody's "conscience"? What else are these types going to think up and try to pass off as a "religious belief"? Don't lose sight of the fact that there is another person involved here: the student. The teacher is supposed to be the adult in the room.

Yes and to be mature and rational about this whole issue:
First, let's distinguish the DIFFERENCE between physical gender based on GENETICS that CANNOT CHANGE, vs. internal spiritual identity that is FAITH BASED and can change and doesn't have to be proven by science because it's someone's personal business.

Let's be mature and fair and distinguish between those two very different levels
and not try to pass one off as the other!

After we get that settled, then maybe we can talk about how to talk about each one.
AFTER we even agree what we're talking about here, DISTINGUISHING
the DIFFERENCE between physical gender where genetic science has traditionally
been used for the legal and govt definitions in order to be neutral and secular
vs.
the arbitrary faith based beliefs that people may have that are not proveable by
science nor any of govt's business to make mandatory for the public.

Agreeing to treat that as FAITH BASED would keep it personal choice out of govt policy.

This post is incomprehensible.The most that I can get out of it is that you don't believe that gender dysphoria exists, that this conclusion is somehow connected with your religious faith, and that anything that anyone decides has to do with his or her religion is not only unassailable but also must be accepted by everyone around them even if it hurts a second person, and the person who was hurt should just slink away.

Why is it that everyone must bow to gender dysphoria but not to other forms of body dysmorphia? For example, if a girl thinks she's a boy and anyone says differently, you lose your job. But if a person with an eating disorder says she is grossly overweight and yet is emaciated, and you say differently, you're "just trying to help" see.

The Leftists won't touch this post because they know it's true, and because anything sexual of course is their holy grail.

Dummies.