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Go to hell you god dam mother fucking cock sucking son of a bitch. fucking hack.fuck off nitwit
Got your ass kicked again, huh.
In what? Calling a hypocrite what he is? What is this with you thinking I'm getting my ass kicked when it has not happen yet? You posted a poll I posted a poll to disprove your poll and ass hat says something to me but not you that's being hypocritical. But of course that what you extremist left-wing nuts are good at.Got your ass kicked again, huh.Go to hell you god dam mother fucking cock sucking son of a bitch. fucking hack.
In what? Calling a hypocrite what he is? What is this with you thinking I'm getting my ass kicked when it has not happen yet? You posted a poll I posted a poll to disprove your poll and ass hat says something to me but not you that's being hypocritical. But of course that what you extremist left-wing nuts are good at.Got your ass kicked again, huh.
You got your ass kicked again when you went against your betters. Of course, everyone including koshergirl is smarter than you here.
Social Security has failed?It's been working for over half a century.
Still working. It needs fixing. Alarmist rhetoric is not fact.
Medicare works. Still working.
Medicaid works. Still working.
Your argument "the patient has no power", is specious and duplicitous.
The 81% Tax Increase - Forbes.comTo put it another way, Social Security's unfunded liability equals 1.3% of the gross domestic product. So if we were to fund its deficit with general revenues, income taxes would have to rise by 1.3% of GDP immediately and forever. With the personal income tax raising about 10% of GDP in coming years, according to the Congressional Budget Office, this means that every taxpayer would have to pay 13% more just to make sure that all Social Security benefits currently promised will be paid.
As bad as that is, however, Social Security's problems are trivial compared to Medicare's. Its trustees also issued a report this week. On page 69 we see that just part A of that program, which pays for hospital care, has an unfunded liability of $36.4 trillion in perpetuity. The payroll tax rate would have to rise by 6.5% immediately to cover that shortfall or 2.8% of GDP forever. Thus every taxpayer would face a 28% increase in their income taxes if general revenues were used to pay future Medicare part A benefits that have been promised over and above revenues from the Medicare tax.
But this is just the beginning of Medicare's problems, because it also has two other programs: part B, which covers doctor's visits, and part D, which pays for prescription drugs.
The unfunded portion of Medicare part B is already covered by general revenues under current law. The present value of that is $37 trillion or 2.8% of GDP in perpetuity according to the trustees report (p. 111). The unfunded portion of Medicare part D, which was rammed into law by George W. Bush and a Republican Congress in 2003, is also covered by general revenues under current law and has a present value of $15.5 trillion or 1.2% of GDP forever (p. 127).
To summarize, we see that taxpayers are on the hook for Social Security and Medicare by these amounts: Social Security, 1.3% of GDP; Medicare part A, 2.8% of GDP; Medicare part B, 2.8% of GDP; and Medicare part D, 1.2% of GDP. This adds up to 8.1% of GDP. Thus federal income taxes for every taxpayer would have to rise by roughly 81% to pay all of the benefits promised by these programs under current law over and above the payroll tax.
Since many taxpayers have just paid their income taxes for 2008 they may have their federal returns close at hand. They all should look up the total amount they paid and multiply that figure by 1.81 to find out what they should be paying right now to finance Social Security and Medicare.
To put it another way, the total unfunded indebtedness of Social Security and Medicare comes to $106.4 trillion. That is how much larger the nation's capital stock would have to be today, all of it owned by the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, to generate enough income to pay all the benefits that have been promised over and above future payroll taxes. But the nation's total private net worth is only $51.5 trillion, according to the Federal Reserve. In effect, we have promised the elderly benefits equal to more than twice the nation's total wealth on top of the payroll tax.
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fuck off nitwit
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Another meltdown?
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Another meltdown?
Go to hell you god dam mother fucking cock sucking son of a bitch. fucking hack.
Another meltdown?
Yup, he is melting down daily now as mainstream America pushes libertarianism and far right/far left extremes away to insignificance.
Social Security has failed?
Medicare works. Still working.
Medicaid works. Still working.
Your argument "the patient has no power", is specious and duplicitous.
You must've flunked basic math, Dante. Here, let me help you. I posted this in another thread, you must've missed it...
The 81% Tax Increase - Forbes.comTo put it another way, Social Security's unfunded liability equals 1.3% of the gross domestic product. So if we were to fund its deficit with general revenues, income taxes would have to rise by 1.3% of GDP immediately and forever. With the personal income tax raising about 10% of GDP in coming years, according to the Congressional Budget Office, this means that every taxpayer would have to pay 13% more just to make sure that all Social Security benefits currently promised will be paid.
As bad as that is, however, Social Security's problems are trivial compared to Medicare's. Its trustees also issued a report this week. On page 69 we see that just part A of that program, which pays for hospital care, has an unfunded liability of $36.4 trillion in perpetuity. The payroll tax rate would have to rise by 6.5% immediately to cover that shortfall or 2.8% of GDP forever. Thus every taxpayer would face a 28% increase in their income taxes if general revenues were used to pay future Medicare part A benefits that have been promised over and above revenues from the Medicare tax.
But this is just the beginning of Medicare's problems, because it also has two other programs: part B, which covers doctor's visits, and part D, which pays for prescription drugs.
The unfunded portion of Medicare part B is already covered by general revenues under current law. The present value of that is $37 trillion or 2.8% of GDP in perpetuity according to the trustees report (p. 111). The unfunded portion of Medicare part D, which was rammed into law by George W. Bush and a Republican Congress in 2003, is also covered by general revenues under current law and has a present value of $15.5 trillion or 1.2% of GDP forever (p. 127).
To summarize, we see that taxpayers are on the hook for Social Security and Medicare by these amounts: Social Security, 1.3% of GDP; Medicare part A, 2.8% of GDP; Medicare part B, 2.8% of GDP; and Medicare part D, 1.2% of GDP. This adds up to 8.1% of GDP. Thus federal income taxes for every taxpayer would have to rise by roughly 81% to pay all of the benefits promised by these programs under current law over and above the payroll tax.
Since many taxpayers have just paid their income taxes for 2008 they may have their federal returns close at hand. They all should look up the total amount they paid and multiply that figure by 1.81 to find out what they should be paying right now to finance Social Security and Medicare.
To put it another way, the total unfunded indebtedness of Social Security and Medicare comes to $106.4 trillion. That is how much larger the nation's capital stock would have to be today, all of it owned by the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, to generate enough income to pay all the benefits that have been promised over and above future payroll taxes. But the nation's total private net worth is only $51.5 trillion, according to the Federal Reserve. In effect, we have promised the elderly benefits equal to more than twice the nation's total wealth on top of the payroll tax.
Another meltdown?
Yup, he is melting down daily now as mainstream America pushes libertarianism and far right/far left extremes away to insignificance.
It's telling, how much joy authoritarians take in "breaking" their victims.
Another meltdown?
Yup, he is melting down daily now as mainstream America pushes libertarianism and far right/far left extremes away to insignificance.
It's telling, how much joy authoritarians take in "breaking" their victims.
Yup, he is melting down daily now as mainstream America pushes libertarianism and far right/far left extremes away to insignificance.
It's telling, how much joy authoritarians take in "breaking" their victims.
That is an excellent description of bigreb's character, or lack of it.
Guy Pinestra and his trash like simply can't comprehend the issue.
Yup, he is melting down daily now as mainstream America pushes libertarianism and far right/far left extremes away to insignificance.
It's telling, how much joy authoritarians take in "breaking" their victims.
That is an excellent description of bigreb's character, or lack of it.
It's telling, how much joy authoritarians take in "breaking" their victims.
That is an excellent description of bigreb's character, or lack of it.
Nope. Describing you, Jake. You and your ilk, so-called "centrists" or "moderates" (authoritarian corporatists), come to these boards bereft of principles, ideas, or morals just to fuck with people. You want to see people, especially people who don't share your eager lust for subjugation, squirm in the face of the brute power you so admire.
Not that your presence here is a total loss. You sometimes raise interesting issues - like the core psychology of the authoritarian mindset for example. It's good for people to see what drives you, what drives the authoritarian agenda in general. "Know your enemy" and all that.
Thanks for playing.
snap goes the trap, and here is why:
On fox now
Guy Pinestra and his trash like simply can't comprehend the issue.
I comprehend the issue just fine, Fake Malarkey. It seems that you're accusing me of your own shortcomings.
What part of 'unsustainable' don't you get?
