Summary of Evidence Released - What It Says

Also, evidence from Papadopoulos was used to obtain a warrant on Page. The FBI has sufficient cause and concern to spy on someone other than Trump. Leave it to the conservative cult to claim Obama’s FBI spied on Trump with fake evidence.

:cuckoo:

They used unverified information to get that FISA warrant, that much is unquestioned. We know the FISA court declined an earlier request, so Obama's FBI/DOJ added the Steele dossier and tried again. What they actually disclosed to the FISA court is as yet unknown, but they did NOT have sufficient cause and concern enough to convince the FISA court to allow them to spy on anybody without using unvetted information and that is the truth. To this very day the FBI/DOJ still cannot verify the information in that dossier, so all you Lefties out there should consider whether or not the FBI/DOJ should put any American citizen under surveillance if the provenance and accuracy of their supporting evidence is unverified.

That is a fascinating fantasy you have come up with.

Also fascinating is that the GOP doesn't care about any other FISA cases- or whether any American other than Carter Page might have had 'unverified' information as the basis for the FISA request.

What we do know is that Nunes lied in his memo about the information about the Steele memo not being provided.

Why do you assume the GOP doesn't care about any other FISA cases, you have no reason to support that claim. In fact I am quite sure the Repubs do indeed have a great deal on interest and concern for FISA requests being granted without enough verified information. A helluva lot more than the democrats did under the Obama Admin or at the present time.

As for the Nunes memo, it states:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.

b) The initial FISA application notes Steele was working for a named U.S. person, but does not name Fusion GPS and principal Glenn Simpson, who was paid by a U.S. law firm (Perkins Coie) representing the DNC (even though it was known by DOJ at the time that political actors were involved with the Steele dossier). The application does not mention Steele was ultimately working on behalf of—and paid by—the DNC and Clinton campaign, or that the FBI had separately authorized payment to Steele for the same information.


Actually, we do not yet know for sure whether these statements are true or not. So as yet there is no proof whatsoever of any lie in that memo in this regard.

Sure we do have proof as to lies in the memo.

This was a lie by omission:
1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign

Nunes knew that Steele had originally been funded by a Conservative publication- and deliberately left that out- citing only the DNC and the Clinton campaign.

And this was a flat out lie- which Nunes has admitted to:

“Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding [British agent Christopher] Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior and FBI officials,”

But we found out:
Nunes: Fine, the FBI Didn’t Lie, But Its Font Was Too Small

the application to wiretap Page did disclose that one of the sources of intelligence to generate suspicion that Page might be acting illegally came from a political source. It was mentioned in a footnote on the FISA application

The Nunes memo was a political hit piece by a man who was part of the Trump campaign and who has shown he has allegiance to Trump- not the American people.
Your link does not say the dossier was accurate, let alone prove it.

It seems to close observers of trump, since he received the nomination until today, his behavior is much more telling than the dossier written by Christopher Steele.

The questions which need to be answered are:
  • Why the GOP Platform was changed to the benefit of Russia
  • Why trump has continued to lie about Trump Tower Moscow.
  • Why trump continuous to claim "no collusion, no obstruction" when it's clear both occurred
  • Why trump lies repeatedly
  • Why hasn't trump released his tax records
  • Why trump didn't answer Mueller's written questions honestly.
It's time for the truth to win out, and if trump continues his obstruction by ordering his underlings and attorney to ignore subpoenas, the DOJ memo that a sitting president cannot be indicted must be ignored, and the US Marshals should cite trump for obstruction of justice.

Let the Constitutional crisis begin!
 
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Why the GOP Platform was changed to the benefit of Russia
It wasn't.
Why trump has continued to lie about Trump Tower Moscow.
He hasn't.
Why trump continuous to claim "no collusion, no obstruction" when it's clear both occurred
Show me the proof, and show me where Mueller said there was either.
Why trump lies repeatedly
A broad and general statement that means nothing.
Why hasn't trump released his tax records
Same reason Obama had his records sealed. He isn't required to.
Why trump didn't answer Mueller's written questions honestly.
He did. Prove he didn't.
It's time for the truth to win out, and if trump continues his obstruction by ordering his underlings and attorney to ignore subpoenas, the DOJ memo that a sitting president cannot be indicted must be ignored, and the US Marshals should cite trump for obstruction of justice.

Let the Constitutional crisis begin!
The matter ended with the Mueller report. Neither Trump nor his underlings need to respond to the Democrat's fishing expedition any longer. You had your chance and you found nothing. You want to indict him? First you'll have to convince your party leaders to do it, which they won't. BTW, you're an idiot.
 
Why the GOP Platform was changed to the benefit of Russia
It wasn't.
Why trump has continued to lie about Trump Tower Moscow.
He hasn't.
Why trump continuous to claim "no collusion, no obstruction" when it's clear both occurred
Show me the proof, and show me where Mueller said there was either.
Why trump lies repeatedly
A broad and general statement that means nothing.
Why hasn't trump released his tax records
Same reason Obama had his records sealed. He isn't required to.
Why trump didn't answer Mueller's written questions honestly.
He did. Prove he didn't.
It's time for the truth to win out, and if trump continues his obstruction by ordering his underlings and attorney to ignore subpoenas, the DOJ memo that a sitting president cannot be indicted must be ignored, and the US Marshals should cite trump for obstruction of justice.

Let the Constitutional crisis begin!
The matter ended with the Mueller report. Neither Trump nor his underlings need to respond to the Democrat's fishing expedition any longer. You had your chance and you found nothing. You want to indict him? First you'll have to convince your party leaders to do it, which they won't. BTW, you're an idiot.

One day soon we will discover which one of us is an idiot. Nothing you posted in response to my comments is anything but your wishful opinions. I'm convinced you are not a conservative, a Republican or a Libertarian, your party is pictured in the cartoon below:

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House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.
What does all this mean, more than anything political?

NO MORE FISA SHIT!!!! NO MORE RENEWAL.

No more skirting the 4th and 5th Amendments under FISA/Patriot Act.

FUCK ALL OF THAT.

.
 
They used unverified information to get that FISA warrant, that much is unquestioned. We know the FISA court declined an earlier request, so Obama's FBI/DOJ added the Steele dossier and tried again. What they actually disclosed to the FISA court is as yet unknown, but they did NOT have sufficient cause and concern enough to convince the FISA court to allow them to spy on anybody without using unvetted information and that is the truth. To this very day the FBI/DOJ still cannot verify the information in that dossier, so all you Lefties out there should consider whether or not the FBI/DOJ should put any American citizen under surveillance if the provenance and accuracy of their supporting evidence is unverified.

That is a fascinating fantasy you have come up with.

Also fascinating is that the GOP doesn't care about any other FISA cases- or whether any American other than Carter Page might have had 'unverified' information as the basis for the FISA request.

What we do know is that Nunes lied in his memo about the information about the Steele memo not being provided.

Why do you assume the GOP doesn't care about any other FISA cases, you have no reason to support that claim. In fact I am quite sure the Repubs do indeed have a great deal on interest and concern for FISA requests being granted without enough verified information. A helluva lot more than the democrats did under the Obama Admin or at the present time.

As for the Nunes memo, it states:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.

b) The initial FISA application notes Steele was working for a named U.S. person, but does not name Fusion GPS and principal Glenn Simpson, who was paid by a U.S. law firm (Perkins Coie) representing the DNC (even though it was known by DOJ at the time that political actors were involved with the Steele dossier). The application does not mention Steele was ultimately working on behalf of—and paid by—the DNC and Clinton campaign, or that the FBI had separately authorized payment to Steele for the same information.


Actually, we do not yet know for sure whether these statements are true or not. So as yet there is no proof whatsoever of any lie in that memo in this regard.

Sure we do have proof as to lies in the memo.

This was a lie by omission:
1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign

Nunes knew that Steele had originally been funded by a Conservative publication- and deliberately left that out- citing only the DNC and the Clinton campaign.

And this was a flat out lie- which Nunes has admitted to:

“Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding [British agent Christopher] Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior and FBI officials,”

But we found out:
Nunes: Fine, the FBI Didn’t Lie, But Its Font Was Too Small

the application to wiretap Page did disclose that one of the sources of intelligence to generate suspicion that Page might be acting illegally came from a political source. It was mentioned in a footnote on the FISA application

The Nunes memo was a political hit piece by a man who was part of the Trump campaign and who has shown he has allegiance to Trump- not the American people.
Your link does not say the dossier was accurate, let alone prove it.

It seems to close observers of trump, since he received the nomination until today, his behavior is much more telling than the dossier written by Christopher Steele.

The questions which need to be answered are:
  • Why the GOP Platform was changed to the benefit of Russia
  • Why trump has continued to lie about Trump Tower Moscow.
  • Why trump continuous to claim "no collusion, no obstruction" when it's clear both occurred
  • Why trump lies repeatedly
  • Why hasn't trump released his tax records
  • Why trump didn't answer Mueller's written questions honestly.
It's time for the truth to win out, and if trump continues his obstruction by ordering his underlings and attorney to ignore subpoenas, the DOJ memo that a sitting president cannot be indicted must be ignored, and the US Marshals should cite trump for obstruction of justice.

Let the Constitutional crisis begin!
I will respond objectively.

Allegations of Trump behavior in the Dossier have much less credibility than what we have actually seen from Trump. I agree with that point.

As for the bullet points:
  • I am not a Republican, so I don't know about the platform other than the Jesus Nazi shit about gays/gay marriage etc.
    • Could you tell me what part benefits Russia?
  • I am not familiar with Trump Tower Moscow. If the allegation is that he has some times to Russia or Russian banks, fine, but that does not disqualify a person from being POTUS.
  • "Collusion" may have occurred, but collusion is not a crime. Obstructive acts may have occurred, the question is whether those acts were done with "corrupt intent". Either way, it is in the hands of Congress. I think it's about as bullshit as the Ken Starr blowjob investigation. I have been on the right side of both of these bullshit investigations.
  • Trump lies because he is a liar. He is a politician. Liar and Politician are synonymous.
  • I suspect he has not released his tax records because it will show that he is not the richest man in the world, or because it will show things that look bad, but are not illegal. To the extent the Democrats want to get them to use as fodder is bullshit. If the IRS cleared him, he should still keep the privacy to which he is entitled. Congress can look at his taxes. They have that power. The problem is that they CAN'T release them to the public. You have to ask yourself whether you think Democrats are been honest about all this tax return bullshit.
  • I don't know what you are referring to. Can you be specific?

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House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.
What does all this mean, more than anything political?

NO MORE FISA SHIT!!!! NO MORE RENEWAL.

No more skirting the 4th and 5th Amendments under FISA/Patriot Act.

FUCK ALL OF THAT.

.

And here is the rest of the story:

Fact checking Robert Mueller's congressional hearing
 
That is a fascinating fantasy you have come up with.

Also fascinating is that the GOP doesn't care about any other FISA cases- or whether any American other than Carter Page might have had 'unverified' information as the basis for the FISA request.

What we do know is that Nunes lied in his memo about the information about the Steele memo not being provided.

Why do you assume the GOP doesn't care about any other FISA cases, you have no reason to support that claim. In fact I am quite sure the Repubs do indeed have a great deal on interest and concern for FISA requests being granted without enough verified information. A helluva lot more than the democrats did under the Obama Admin or at the present time.

As for the Nunes memo, it states:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.

b) The initial FISA application notes Steele was working for a named U.S. person, but does not name Fusion GPS and principal Glenn Simpson, who was paid by a U.S. law firm (Perkins Coie) representing the DNC (even though it was known by DOJ at the time that political actors were involved with the Steele dossier). The application does not mention Steele was ultimately working on behalf of—and paid by—the DNC and Clinton campaign, or that the FBI had separately authorized payment to Steele for the same information.


Actually, we do not yet know for sure whether these statements are true or not. So as yet there is no proof whatsoever of any lie in that memo in this regard.

Sure we do have proof as to lies in the memo.

This was a lie by omission:
1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign

Nunes knew that Steele had originally been funded by a Conservative publication- and deliberately left that out- citing only the DNC and the Clinton campaign.

And this was a flat out lie- which Nunes has admitted to:

“Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding [British agent Christopher] Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior and FBI officials,”

But we found out:
Nunes: Fine, the FBI Didn’t Lie, But Its Font Was Too Small

the application to wiretap Page did disclose that one of the sources of intelligence to generate suspicion that Page might be acting illegally came from a political source. It was mentioned in a footnote on the FISA application

The Nunes memo was a political hit piece by a man who was part of the Trump campaign and who has shown he has allegiance to Trump- not the American people.
Your link does not say the dossier was accurate, let alone prove it.

It seems to close observers of trump, since he received the nomination until today, his behavior is much more telling than the dossier written by Christopher Steele.

The questions which need to be answered are:
  • Why the GOP Platform was changed to the benefit of Russia
  • Why trump has continued to lie about Trump Tower Moscow.
  • Why trump continuous to claim "no collusion, no obstruction" when it's clear both occurred
  • Why trump lies repeatedly
  • Why hasn't trump released his tax records
  • Why trump didn't answer Mueller's written questions honestly.
It's time for the truth to win out, and if trump continues his obstruction by ordering his underlings and attorney to ignore subpoenas, the DOJ memo that a sitting president cannot be indicted must be ignored, and the US Marshals should cite trump for obstruction of justice.

Let the Constitutional crisis begin!
I will respond objectively.

Allegations of Trump behavior in the Dossier have much less credibility than what we have actually seen from Trump. I agree with that point.

As for the bullet points:
  • I am not a Republican, so I don't know about the platform other than the Jesus Nazi shit about gays/gay marriage etc.
    • Could you tell me what part benefits Russia?
  • I am not familiar with Trump Tower Moscow. If the allegation is that he has some times to Russia or Russian banks, fine, but that does not disqualify a person from being POTUS.
  • "Collusion" may have occurred, but collusion is not a crime. Obstructive acts may have occurred, the question is whether those acts were done with "corrupt intent". Either way, it is in the hands of Congress. I think it's about as bullshit as the Ken Starr blowjob investigation. I have been on the right side of both of these bullshit investigations.
  • Trump lies because he is a liar. He is a politician. Liar and Politician are synonymous.
  • I suspect he has not released his tax records because it will show that he is not the richest man in the world, or because it will show things that look bad, but are not illegal. To the extent the Democrats want to get them to use as fodder is bullshit. If the IRS cleared him, he should still keep the privacy to which he is entitled. Congress can look at his taxes. They have that power. The problem is that they CAN'T release them to the public. You have to ask yourself whether you think Democrats are been honest about all this tax return bullshit.
  • I don't know what you are referring to. Can you be specific?

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Bullet point #1: 2016 RNC Delegate: Trump Directed Change To Party Platform On Ukraine Support

#2: You are correct, collusion is not a crime, lying about No Collusion is a lie when the Pres. uses it to mislead the public. His kids failed to report the Russia efforts to provide dirt on HRC - that makes their lies a conspiracy.

#3: Not all Pols are pathological liars, or lying to cover up criminal activity.

#4: Trump promised to release his taxes. A reasonable conclusion is that he is covering up something, which may be criminal or leading to much worse for him, high crimes with an association with Putin and Russian Oligarchs having the ability and success of black mail.

#5: Trump tower Moscow, loans from foreign powers/banks, and his vulnerability to black mail.
 
House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.
In My Opinion Every Fake Conviction that occurred as the result of The Steele Dossier, and The Obama Administration's Reliance on it should be thrown out, and the records expunged for those victims of injustice.
 
Why do you assume the GOP doesn't care about any other FISA cases, you have no reason to support that claim. In fact I am quite sure the Repubs do indeed have a great deal on interest and concern for FISA requests being granted without enough verified information. A helluva lot more than the democrats did under the Obama Admin or at the present time.

As for the Nunes memo, it states:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.

b) The initial FISA application notes Steele was working for a named U.S. person, but does not name Fusion GPS and principal Glenn Simpson, who was paid by a U.S. law firm (Perkins Coie) representing the DNC (even though it was known by DOJ at the time that political actors were involved with the Steele dossier). The application does not mention Steele was ultimately working on behalf of—and paid by—the DNC and Clinton campaign, or that the FBI had separately authorized payment to Steele for the same information.


Actually, we do not yet know for sure whether these statements are true or not. So as yet there is no proof whatsoever of any lie in that memo in this regard.

Sure we do have proof as to lies in the memo.

This was a lie by omission:
1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign

Nunes knew that Steele had originally been funded by a Conservative publication- and deliberately left that out- citing only the DNC and the Clinton campaign.

And this was a flat out lie- which Nunes has admitted to:

“Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding [British agent Christopher] Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior and FBI officials,”

But we found out:
Nunes: Fine, the FBI Didn’t Lie, But Its Font Was Too Small

the application to wiretap Page did disclose that one of the sources of intelligence to generate suspicion that Page might be acting illegally came from a political source. It was mentioned in a footnote on the FISA application

The Nunes memo was a political hit piece by a man who was part of the Trump campaign and who has shown he has allegiance to Trump- not the American people.
Your link does not say the dossier was accurate, let alone prove it.

It seems to close observers of trump, since he received the nomination until today, his behavior is much more telling than the dossier written by Christopher Steele.

The questions which need to be answered are:
  • Why the GOP Platform was changed to the benefit of Russia
  • Why trump has continued to lie about Trump Tower Moscow.
  • Why trump continuous to claim "no collusion, no obstruction" when it's clear both occurred
  • Why trump lies repeatedly
  • Why hasn't trump released his tax records
  • Why trump didn't answer Mueller's written questions honestly.
It's time for the truth to win out, and if trump continues his obstruction by ordering his underlings and attorney to ignore subpoenas, the DOJ memo that a sitting president cannot be indicted must be ignored, and the US Marshals should cite trump for obstruction of justice.

Let the Constitutional crisis begin!
I will respond objectively.

Allegations of Trump behavior in the Dossier have much less credibility than what we have actually seen from Trump. I agree with that point.

As for the bullet points:
  • I am not a Republican, so I don't know about the platform other than the Jesus Nazi shit about gays/gay marriage etc.
    • Could you tell me what part benefits Russia?
  • I am not familiar with Trump Tower Moscow. If the allegation is that he has some times to Russia or Russian banks, fine, but that does not disqualify a person from being POTUS.
  • "Collusion" may have occurred, but collusion is not a crime. Obstructive acts may have occurred, the question is whether those acts were done with "corrupt intent". Either way, it is in the hands of Congress. I think it's about as bullshit as the Ken Starr blowjob investigation. I have been on the right side of both of these bullshit investigations.
  • Trump lies because he is a liar. He is a politician. Liar and Politician are synonymous.
  • I suspect he has not released his tax records because it will show that he is not the richest man in the world, or because it will show things that look bad, but are not illegal. To the extent the Democrats want to get them to use as fodder is bullshit. If the IRS cleared him, he should still keep the privacy to which he is entitled. Congress can look at his taxes. They have that power. The problem is that they CAN'T release them to the public. You have to ask yourself whether you think Democrats are been honest about all this tax return bullshit.
  • I don't know what you are referring to. Can you be specific?

.

Bullet point #1: 2016 RNC Delegate: Trump Directed Change To Party Platform On Ukraine Support

#2: You are correct, collusion is not a crime, lying about No Collusion is a lie when the Pres. uses it to mislead the public. His kids failed to report the Russia efforts to provide dirt on HRC - that makes their lies a conspiracy.

#3: Not all Pols are pathological liars, or lying to cover up criminal activity.

#4: Trump promised to release his taxes. A reasonable conclusion is that he is covering up something, which may be criminal or leading to much worse for him, high crimes with an association with Putin and Russian Oligarchs having the ability and success of black mail.

#5: Trump tower Moscow, loans from foreign powers/banks, and his vulnerability to black mail.
It's a shame The Weismann Report Calls You A LIAR.

Zero Crimes Committed, and Zero Crimes Recommended for Indictment of The President.
 
House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.
In My Opinion Every Fake Conviction that occurred as the result of The Steele Dossier, and The Obama Administration's Reliance on it should be thrown out, and the records expunged for those victims of injustice.

It's too sad for you that your opinion is based on wishful thinking, and nothing of substance. We all should refer judgement until all the facts are out, and if necessary trials are to be had and convictions or acquittals decided.

The one sure thing we all should agree on, the Trump Administration will be known as a time of Chaos - the opposite of no drama Obama.
 
House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.
In My Opinion Every Fake Conviction that occurred as the result of The Steele Dossier, and The Obama Administration's Reliance on it should be thrown out, and the records expunged for those victims of injustice.

It's too sad for you that your opinion is based on wishful thinking, and nothing of substance. We all should refer judgement until all the facts are out, and if necessary trials are to be had and convictions or acquittals decided.

The one sure thing we all should agree on, the Trump Administration will be known as a time of Chaos - the opposite of no drama Obama.
There are No Facts. 29 Different Investigations have been unable to find any evidence of any crimes President Trump Committed.

I guess both your COUP and Subpoena Cannon blew up in your face, now didn't it Butthurt tard?

Hillary will never be president, and both her and Obama will be joining Hitler in Hell when their lives are over. Make sure you don't end up with them.

Why didn't Comey Exonerate Clinton?
 
House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.
In My Opinion Every Fake Conviction that occurred as the result of The Steele Dossier, and The Obama Administration's Reliance on it should be thrown out, and the records expunged for those victims of injustice.

It's too sad for you that your opinion is based on wishful thinking, and nothing of substance. We all should refer judgement until all the facts are out, and if necessary trials are to be had and convictions or acquittals decided.

The one sure thing we all should agree on, the Trump Administration will be known as a time of Chaos - the opposite of no drama Obama.
There are No Facts. 29 Different Investigations have been unable to find any evidence of any crimes President Trump Committed.

I guess both your COUP and Subpoena Cannon blew up in your face, now didn't it Butthurt tard?

Hillary will never be president, and both her and Obama will be joining Hitler in Hell when their lives are over. Make sure you don't end up with them.

Why didn't Comey Exonerate Clinton?

It appears you have made a mistake, the investigations of HRC all acquitted her of wrong doing.

Trump is still going under one Federal investigation, not of 29 potential criminal acts, but one: Did he violate the oath of the presidency, and do those violations rise to the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors.

Time will tell if Trump were to be impeached, and the evidence was conclusive, if the Senate puts him above the law, or convicts him and sends him packing. We can all hold to our opinion of the Republican Senators, and mine is they would acquit trump no matter how probative the evidence might be.

Thus, I hope Speaker Pelosi holds her grounds, and let the people decide if trump is fit to remain POTUS come Nov 2020. In my reasoned opinion, he is not fit to be POTUS or hold any position of authority in government or in private practice.

Even then, there are several states ready to prosecute him on state charges, once he leaves office, by term limits, impeachment or resignation.
 
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She wasn’t acquitted. They said she committed crimes.

Comey refuses to exonerate her and refused
To indict her for her crimes.

Why did Comey refuse
To exonerate her?

House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.
In My Opinion Every Fake Conviction that occurred as the result of The Steele Dossier, and The Obama Administration's Reliance on it should be thrown out, and the records expunged for those victims of injustice.

It's too sad for you that your opinion is based on wishful thinking, and nothing of substance. We all should refer judgement until all the facts are out, and if necessary trials are to be had and convictions or acquittals decided.

The one sure thing we all should agree on, the Trump Administration will be known as a time of Chaos - the opposite of no drama Obama.
There are No Facts. 29 Different Investigations have been unable to find any evidence of any crimes President Trump Committed.

I guess both your COUP and Subpoena Cannon blew up in your face, now didn't it Butthurt tard?

Hillary will never be president, and both her and Obama will be joining Hitler in Hell when their lives are over. Make sure you don't end up with them.

Why didn't Comey Exonerate Clinton?

It appears you have made a mistake, the investigations of HRC all acquitted her of wrong doing.

Trump is still going under one Federal investigation, not of 29 potential criminal acts, but one: Did he violate the oath of the presidency, and do those violations rise to the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors.

Time will tell if Trump were to be impeached, and the evidence was conclusive, if the Senate puts him above the law, or convicts him and sends him packing. We can all hold to our opinion of the Republican Senators, and mine is they would acquit trump no matter how probative the evidence might be.

Thus, I hope Speaker Pelosi holds her grounds, and let the people decide if trump is fit to remain POTUS come Nov 2020. In my reasoned opinion, he is not fit to be POTUS or hold any position of authority in government or in private practice.

Even then, there are several states ready to prosecute him on state charges, once he leaves office, by term limits, impeachment or resignation.
 
One day soon we will discover which one of us is an idiot.
We already know. It's you. Not only are you an idiot, you're also an asshole, as well as a communist POS. I think that just about covers it, don't you?
Nothing you posted in response to my comments is anything but your wishful opinions.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing about your posts. You've made no valid points, nothing you've posted has been proven, not even close.
 
How true is the Trump-Russia dossier? One year later, what we know about its claims

Verified: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page met with representatives of Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft.

Verified: The Kremlin targeted educated youth and swing state voters during its cyber attacks in the 2016 campaign.

Verified: Trump maintains ties to rich businessmen from Azerbaijan.
That’s a 2018 source, shitforbrains. Even the FBI now admits it was all bullshit.
 
How true is the Trump-Russia dossier? One year later, what we know about its claims

Verified: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page met with representatives of Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft.

Verified: The Kremlin targeted educated youth and swing state voters during its cyber attacks in the 2016 campaign.

Verified: Trump maintains ties to rich businessmen from Azerbaijan.
Fact! in 2016 Trump pulled up to my house with a van load of peeing Russian school girls!
 
That's a lie. The legislation specifically states that no criminal intent is required.
i'm not sure what legislation you refer.
But the espionage act 18 usc 793(f) says anyone authorized to handle secrets who “through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both"

In practice, however, law enforcement officials have set a high bar for prosecuting violations of those laws, looking for clear criminal intent. Since Hillary cooperated, there was no such intent.
 

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