Spicer Threatens the Free Press

[MacTheKnife]

Newspaper Fell For Now-Discredited Sean Spicer ‘Racism’ Tip-Off From Ex-Convict
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Sean Spicer, President Donald Trump’s former press secretary, threatened legal action after the Associated Press picked up a Newport Daily New video of Boston-area man Alex Lombard accusing him on Friday of using a racial slur in the 1980s when the two men attended the same high school.

Breitbart News has learned that the viral video of Lombard confronting Spicer at a book signing that began the national media frenzy had its genesis when Lombard, a man with a history of trouble with the law, told the local paper he was planning the stunt.

Sources familiar with the matter told Breitbart News that a Newport Daily News representative admitted at least one of their employees was in contact with Lombard before the incident, setting up the filming with the expectation the incident would take place. The newspaper declined to comment on this, referring Breitbart News to their legal team.

The Associated Press quickly picked up the incident, providing no evidence of the accusation’s credibility beyond the word of Lombard, who, Breitbart News has since learned, spent nearly three years in a Georgia prison after multiple parole violations stemming from an arrest over crack cocaine possession. After his release in 2002, he entered a no contest plea to driving with a suspended license.

Lombard was quickly removed from the book signing, but not before he gave the gist of his accusation for the camera — that Spicer had called him the N-word while trying to instigate a fight. Lombard claimed to have been 14 at the time of the incident, which would place it circa 1987, when Spicer, who as an adult stands 5′ 6″, was 15 or 16.

A Twitter account with Lombard’s picture and only 16 followers has been making similar accusations since February 2017, shortly after Spicer joined the White House. In at least one instance he appears to be trying to get the attention of CNN:

I now think Pogo may have been a part of this scam....I wonder how many sites on the internet has he visited? The mods need to look into this poster Pogo.

Dood, you were in here declaring an event you have zero knowledge of to be a "lie". And when I asked what your credentials were to know that you had none. So if there's a "scam" going on here it's on your end pally.

In any case none of this is what the thread was about. This is in "US Constitution" for a reason. As I pointed out immediately in my OP it ain't about Sean Spicer or what did or didn't happen 30 years ago. It's about whether censorship of a story one finds inconvenient can validly be effected through legal intimidation.

Which is what Bowe, Spicer's lawyer-boy, implied he would do "Monday" --- and never did.


And btw as I pointed out in the other closed thread, you have no link here. I found the story anyway, in full, and as already noted, it cites NO SOURCES, quotes NO NAMES, and carries NO LINKS. Which makes it pretty fucking ironic that you stomped around throwing things about an AP article that CITED its sources and LINKED them, and now you think you discredit the event ----- not the AP story mind you but the event itself, which provably DID happen --- on the basis of an ipse dixit suggestion from Dimbart that has no idea where it got that info.

Wrong again....all spicer was asking for was a retraction about the part claiming he had used the n word. This was a bood signing and the media was there and spicer had no problem with them being there and running a story about that. He did have a problem and legitimately so about them airing that video showing the Black guy accusing spicer of using the n word. Spicer was upset about that and only that as in he knew he had never done that. And there is no evidence he ever did and despite that the AP disseminated the video in which the black guy was saying that. Again a violation of the journalism code of ethics as well as being defaming. They did not have to disseminate the video...it is quite apparant they did so in an effort to tarnish Spicer's image as well as that of the Trump administration since spicer had been a part of that. I mean this stuff goes on and on day in and day out. The alphabet media is always doing their utmost to discredit Trump......which is bias which is also against Journalism's code of ethics. And yet the media gets in a hissy fit because Trump correctly identifies their b.s. as fake news.

 

[flacaltenn]

So two conflicting accounts and a neutral but at least they have actual names.

Not at all -- B-bart has 2 students that the perp named on line DENYING the incident. And this 3rd Leandro was not WITNESS to the incident, only repeated what the perp TOLD him after the fact.

So the score is 2 students again 1 who only has comments from the perp to go on. And one teacher who does not believe the incident ever happened.

Still it seems the paper is NOT denying that they set this up. And you were wrong to jump to conclusions that there was NO LAWSUIT coming --- because OBVIOUSLY Spicer now has a lawyer coordinating and researching this matter. Can we just be PATIENT for awhile and see what other "surprises" crop up before leaping to "Constitutional Crises" ???

 

[Pogo]

"All those other sources" DID NOT just repost the libel as fact.

NOBODY reported the accusation (what you prematurely call "libel" here) as "fact". What they ALL reported was that there was an altercation. Lombard came in, made the accusation.

That's IT. That's the entire story. Reporting that story isn't making the accusation. Just as the AP reporting that Katrina flooded New Orleans doesn't mean the AP made it rain.

What don't summa y'all GET about this? The story is "man comes in, says X". PERIOD.

 

[flacaltenn]

And again --- you just recounted exactly the same story the AP and aaaalllll those other sources recounteed including the original. By your standard then you are "unethical" and should "retract" your post.

"All those other sources" DID NOT just repost the libel as fact. They covered the story from an ethics of journalism perspective and were GREATLY CRITICAL of the original DinkyTown source. Their purpose for the coverage was MUCH different than whatever purpose or motivation the DinkyTown Herald had in RUNNING that random sketchy hit piece. Or -- as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime.

I'll be looking for more info on the story. But right now all of Lombard'
witnesses are denying the event and allowing their NAMES to appear with the denials.

I have no idea what "Dinky Town" is or what you're talking about here. There is no "Dinky Town Herald" I've ever heard of.

But I did take the liberty to look around to the original reporting source (NewportRI.com) and found a followup that leaves conflicting accounts -- here

Lombard says John Farley (brother of Chris) tackled Spicer; Farley says nothing like that happened. Marc Leandro on the other hand says it definitely did happen. Yet another he said - he said.

Then there was:

>> Cliff Hobbins has been teaching subjects including history, economics and foreign policy at Portsmouth Abbey since 1976, and was a housemaster when the alleged incident occurred. He said Portsmouth Abbey housemasters met regularly and there was never a hint of such a disturbance.

“Something like that would have spread like wildfire among the students and it would have gotten back to the faculty,” Hobbins said. “We have very strict disciplinary policies regarding something like that. Sean Spicer would have been expelled if anything like that occurred.

“I’m not saying it never happened, but I did not know anything about it,” Hobbins said. << (from the same link)
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So two conflicting accounts and a neutral but at least they have actual names.

As for "as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime" that's a suggestion with nothing behind it. Not even a name.

B-bart ASKED the Newport (dinkyTown) Herald to comment on the allegation about AIDING in setting up that confrontation. Simplest thing would be for them to issue to denial. But instead they DODGED the question with no comments. THAT seems to indicate the veracity of the B-bart sources. Why would the paper just not categorically DENY that allegation?

Yanno what, I've actually spent time in Newport Rhode Island and never heard of "Dinky Town".

I have no evidence that Dimbart asked anybody anything. They cited no sources. I can't take the word of Steve Bannon as a serious source, just because he says so without any documentation. I mean come ON.

They said they have sources. When the WaPo says they have unnamed sources its a national scandal. Unnamed sources are the go-to of GREAT journalism these days. I asked you ---

When B-bart ASKED the paper for comment on allegation that THEY HELPED arrange this confrontation --- WHY did they simply not categorically deny it ?? THAT'S how "unnamed sources" get refuted is it not?

 

[MacTheKnife]

"All those other sources" DID NOT just repost the libel as fact.

NOBODY reported the accusation (what you prematurely call "libel" here) as "fact". What they ALL reported was that there was an altercation. Lombard came in, made the accusation.

That's IT. That's the entire story. Reporting that story isn't making the accusation. Just as the AP reporting that Katrina flooded New Orleans doesn't mean the AP made it rain.

What don't summa y'all GET about this? The story is "man comes in, says X". PERIOD.

Again you demonstrate your ignorance. The key word being 'dissemination' do you know what that means? It means they disseminated the video which defamed Spicer without any attempt to verify the claim that spicer had used the n. word.

 

[Pogo]

So two conflicting accounts and a neutral but at least they have actual names.

Not at all -- B-bart has 2 students that the perp named on line DENYING the incident. And this 3rd Leandro was not WITNESS to the incident, only repeated what the perp TOLD him after the fact.

So the score is 2 students again 1 who only has comments from the perp to go on. And one teacher who does not believe the incident ever happened.

Still it seems the paper is NOT denying that they set this up. And you were wrong to jump to conclusions that there was NO LAWSUIT coming --- because OBVIOUSLY Spicer now has a lawyer coordinating and researching this matter. Can we just be PATIENT for awhile and see what other "surprises" crop up before leaping to "Constitutional Crises" ???

I'll put this in small words this time. YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT THE PAPER "DENIED" ANYTHING. We have no evidence that they were even ASKED anything. A completely unlinked unsourced blog page from Dimbart doesn't constitute "evidence" of anything except the poster's gullibility.

And no I'm not wrong --- Spicer's lawyer was noted at the very beginning with his threat of "retracting" a story about an altercation by "Monday", which was four days ago.

Maybe you should read this thing from the beginning. Bowe wanted a story that an incident happened "retracted". That means he wants AP to turn around and say it didn't happen. And it wasn't even their story to begin with, yet he only named the AP.

 

[Dale Smith]

Note the forum: "US Constitution" -- not Current Events or Politics. This is not (particularly) a story about Sean Spicer. It is a story about the First Amendment and whether it can be curtailed at will.

Spicer Threatens Legal Action over AP Report

>> Former White House press secretary Sean Spicer is threatening to take legal action against The Associated Press over a report from the wire service about an incident on his book tour.

Spicer’s attorney Michael Bowe said in a statement Saturday night that the AP “recklessly republished a categorically false accusation about Sean Spicer.”

“The claim is a lie. Absent an immediate retraction, Mr. Spicer will take legal action Monday,” Bowe said.

The AP report, published Saturday, documented an incident at Spicer’s book signing in Middletown, R.I., on Friday during which a black man claiming to be a former classmate of Spicer’s at Portsmouth Abbey School accused Spicer of using a racial slur.

... Video of the encounter published by NewportRI.com shows the man, identified as Alex Lombard, approaching Spicer at event.

"Sean, I was a day student at [Portsmouth] Abbey, too, with you,” Lombard said.

“Hey," Spicer replies. "Yes, how are you?”

You don’t remember that you tried to fight me?" Lombard said. "But you called me a [n-word] first."

The video then shows security escorting Lombard out of the event.

"I was 14 then. I was a scared kid then, Sean. I’m not scared to fight you now," Lombard can be heard yelling. <<
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The AP report in question is in the link worded "AP Report". The actual video of the incident taking place, in full, is at the link worded "NewportRI.com".

Obviously the event happened. You can't deny what's clearly visible and audible on video --- yet here's Spicer's attorney threatening just that.

In his campaigning in 2016 Spicer's ex-boss Rump infamously declared he would "open up" libel laws to intimidate journalism and control the flow of information.

​

Perhaps Spicer wishes that could have been a real thing*.


(* "Congress shall make no Law respecting an establishment of Religion, or prohibiting the free Exercise thereof; or abridging the Freedom of Speech, or of the Press; or the Right of the People peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of Grievances".)

Long live the First Amendment.

I doubt that you will see the irony in that since the commie leftists are working their asses off on getting conservative voices banned on social media. At one time I had over 150 channels I subscribed too on youtube.....it's down to about 40. Leftards are all about (snicker) "free speech" just so long as it's the kind of speech that they approve of. People can peacefully assemble as long as leftards approve of it...otherwise little old ladies and moms voice their opinions in public at their own peril.

 

[Pogo]

"All those other sources" DID NOT just repost the libel as fact.

NOBODY reported the accusation (what you prematurely call "libel" here) as "fact". What they ALL reported was that there was an altercation. Lombard came in, made the accusation.

That's IT. That's the entire story. Reporting that story isn't making the accusation. Just as the AP reporting that Katrina flooded New Orleans doesn't mean the AP made it rain.

What don't summa y'all GET about this? The story is "man comes in, says X". PERIOD.

Again you demonstrate your ignorance. The key word being 'dissemination' do you know what that means? It means they disseminated the video which defamed Spicer without any attempt to verify the claim that spicer had used the n. word.

Again, BULLSHIT. Here's the AP page. There's no video on it. The video is on the NewportRI.com page --- which was not named by the attorney.

So once AGAIN for those with slow reading eyes, Bowe isn't asking for the video to be retracted --- he's asking for the simple report that the incident took place to be retracted.

 

[MacTheKnife]

And again --- you just recounted exactly the same story the AP and aaaalllll those other sources recounteed including the original. By your standard then you are "unethical" and should "retract" your post.

"All those other sources" DID NOT just repost the libel as fact. They covered the story from an ethics of journalism perspective and were GREATLY CRITICAL of the original DinkyTown source. Their purpose for the coverage was MUCH different than whatever purpose or motivation the DinkyTown Herald had in RUNNING that random sketchy hit piece. Or -- as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime.

I'll be looking for more info on the story. But right now all of Lombard'
witnesses are denying the event and allowing their NAMES to appear with the denials.

I have no idea what "Dinky Town" is or what you're talking about here. There is no "Dinky Town Herald" I've ever heard of.

But I did take the liberty to look around to the original reporting source (NewportRI.com) and found a followup that leaves conflicting accounts -- here

Lombard says John Farley (brother of Chris) tackled Spicer; Farley says nothing like that happened. Marc Leandro on the other hand says it definitely did happen. Yet another he said - he said.

Then there was:

>> Cliff Hobbins has been teaching subjects including history, economics and foreign policy at Portsmouth Abbey since 1976, and was a housemaster when the alleged incident occurred. He said Portsmouth Abbey housemasters met regularly and there was never a hint of such a disturbance.

“Something like that would have spread like wildfire among the students and it would have gotten back to the faculty,” Hobbins said. “We have very strict disciplinary policies regarding something like that. Sean Spicer would have been expelled if anything like that occurred.

“I’m not saying it never happened, but I did not know anything about it,” Hobbins said. << (from the same link)
​

So two conflicting accounts and a neutral but at least they have actual names.

As for "as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime" that's a suggestion with nothing behind it. Not even a name.

B-bart ASKED the Newport (dinkyTown) Herald to comment on the allegation about AIDING in setting up that confrontation. Simplest thing would be for them to issue to denial. But instead they DODGED the question with no comments. THAT seems to indicate the veracity of the B-bart sources. Why would the paper just not categorically DENY that allegation?

Yanno what, I've actually spent time in Newport Rhode Island and never heard of "Dinky Town".

I have no evidence that Dimbart asked anybody anything. They cited no sources. I can't take the word of Steve Bannon as a serious source, just because he says so without any documentation. I mean come ON.

Come on ...you cannot be that stupid....how can you expect anyone to think you have any credibility. It is obviouis...more than obvious he is referring to Newport as being a dinky town. You seem to be so desperate that you are grasping at straws now. What you need to do is to apologize to all the posters on this thread for spreading fake news and that will wrap this thing up before the mods delete the thread. Demonstrate you are a stand up guy and apologize.

 

[Pogo]

Not at all -- B-bart has 2 students that the perp named on line DENYING the incident.

Can't believe I gotta give reading lessons in here ----

There is ONE guy, John Farley, I don't know if Dimbart mentioned him but NewportRI.com did --- who says it didn't happen that he tackled Spicer. That is not the same thing as saying the Spicer slur itself didn't happen; he just wasn't the one who tackled him, if anybody was. Other than that it's impossible to categorically prove a negative and declare that "I didn't see it, therefore it didn't happen". Bobby Darin tried to get away with that one too.

Personally I don't give a flying shit what happened 30 years ago. My concern from post number one is the idea of suppressing stories simply because one doesn't like what they recount. A story that's verified, eyewitnessed and recorded, thus indisputable.

 

[westwall]

And again --- you just recounted exactly the same story the AP and aaaalllll those other sources recounteed including the original. By your standard then you are "unethical" and should "retract" your post.

"All those other sources" DID NOT just repost the libel as fact. They covered the story from an ethics of journalism perspective and were GREATLY CRITICAL of the original DinkyTown source. Their purpose for the coverage was MUCH different than whatever purpose or motivation the DinkyTown Herald had in RUNNING that random sketchy hit piece. Or -- as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime.

I'll be looking for more info on the story. But right now all of Lombard'
witnesses are denying the event and allowing their NAMES to appear with the denials.

I have no idea what "Dinky Town" is or what you're talking about here. There is no "Dinky Town Herald" I've ever heard of.

But I did take the liberty to look around to the original reporting source (NewportRI.com) and found a followup that leaves conflicting accounts -- here

Lombard says John Farley (brother of Chris) tackled Spicer; Farley says nothing like that happened. Marc Leandro on the other hand says it definitely did happen. Yet another he said - he said.

Then there was:

>> Cliff Hobbins has been teaching subjects including history, economics and foreign policy at Portsmouth Abbey since 1976, and was a housemaster when the alleged incident occurred. He said Portsmouth Abbey housemasters met regularly and there was never a hint of such a disturbance.

“Something like that would have spread like wildfire among the students and it would have gotten back to the faculty,” Hobbins said. “We have very strict disciplinary policies regarding something like that. Sean Spicer would have been expelled if anything like that occurred.

“I’m not saying it never happened, but I did not know anything about it,” Hobbins said. << (from the same link)
​

So two conflicting accounts and a neutral but at least they have actual names.

As for "as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime" that's a suggestion with nothing behind it. Not even a name.

B-bart ASKED the Newport (dinkyTown) Herald to comment on the allegation about AIDING in setting up that confrontation. Simplest thing would be for them to issue to denial. But instead they DODGED the question with no comments. THAT seems to indicate the veracity of the B-bart sources. Why would the paper just not categorically DENY that allegation?

Yanno what, I've actually spent time in Newport Rhode Island and never heard of "Dinky Town".

I have no evidence that Dimbart asked anybody anything. They cited no sources. I can't take the word of Steve Bannon as a serious source, just because he says so without any documentation. I mean come ON.

They said they have sources. When the WaPo says they have unnamed sources its a national scandal. Unnamed sources are the go-to of GREAT journalism these days. I asked you ---

When B-bart ASKED the paper for comment on allegation that THEY HELPED arrange this confrontation --- WHY did they simply not categorically deny it ?? THAT'S how "unnamed sources" get refuted is it not?

It is, but poges is intellectually dishonest as we all know. The fact that the newspaper (and I hate to grant it that moniker based on behavior) would print such scurrilous crap is a testament to how low the journalistic standards have fallen. Fortunately for the newspapers there are tones of slow witted people, like poges here, so they are able to get away with their unethical behavior.

 

[MacTheKnife]

"All those other sources" DID NOT just repost the libel as fact.

NOBODY reported the accusation (what you prematurely call "libel" here) as "fact". What they ALL reported was that there was an altercation. Lombard came in, made the accusation.

That's IT. That's the entire story. Reporting that story isn't making the accusation. Just as the AP reporting that Katrina flooded New Orleans doesn't mean the AP made it rain.

What don't summa y'all GET about this? The story is "man comes in, says X". PERIOD.

Again you demonstrate your ignorance. The key word being 'dissemination' do you know what that means? It means they disseminated the video which defamed Spicer without any attempt to verify the claim that spicer had used the n. word.

Again, BULLSHIT. Here's the AP page. There's no video on it. The video is on the NewportRI.com page --- which was not named by the attorney.

So once AGAIN for those with slow reading eyes, Bowe isn't asking for the video to be retracted --- he's asking for the simple report that the incident took place to be retracted.

"All those other sources" DID NOT just repost the libel as fact.

NOBODY reported the accusation (what you prematurely call "libel" here) as "fact". What they ALL reported was that there was an altercation. Lombard came in, made the accusation.

That's IT. That's the entire story. Reporting that story isn't making the accusation. Just as the AP reporting that Katrina flooded New Orleans doesn't mean the AP made it rain.

What don't summa y'all GET about this? The story is "man comes in, says X". PERIOD.

Again you demonstrate your ignorance. The key word being 'dissemination' do you know what that means? It means they disseminated the video which defamed Spicer without any attempt to verify the claim that spicer had used the n. word.

Again, BULLSHIT. Here's the AP page. There's no video on it. The video is on the NewportRI.com page --- which was not named by the attorney.

So once AGAIN for those with slow reading eyes, Bowe isn't asking for the video to be retracted --- he's asking for the simple report that the incident took place to be retracted.

Ah gotcha again! there is a link to the video on the ap page you just mentioned. Read it again....with your glasses on. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[MacTheKnife]

"All those other sources" DID NOT just repost the libel as fact. They covered the story from an ethics of journalism perspective and were GREATLY CRITICAL of the original DinkyTown source. Their purpose for the coverage was MUCH different than whatever purpose or motivation the DinkyTown Herald had in RUNNING that random sketchy hit piece. Or -- as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime.

I'll be looking for more info on the story. But right now all of Lombard'
witnesses are denying the event and allowing their NAMES to appear with the denials.

I have no idea what "Dinky Town" is or what you're talking about here. There is no "Dinky Town Herald" I've ever heard of.

But I did take the liberty to look around to the original reporting source (NewportRI.com) and found a followup that leaves conflicting accounts -- here

Lombard says John Farley (brother of Chris) tackled Spicer; Farley says nothing like that happened. Marc Leandro on the other hand says it definitely did happen. Yet another he said - he said.

Then there was:

>> Cliff Hobbins has been teaching subjects including history, economics and foreign policy at Portsmouth Abbey since 1976, and was a housemaster when the alleged incident occurred. He said Portsmouth Abbey housemasters met regularly and there was never a hint of such a disturbance.

“Something like that would have spread like wildfire among the students and it would have gotten back to the faculty,” Hobbins said. “We have very strict disciplinary policies regarding something like that. Sean Spicer would have been expelled if anything like that occurred.

“I’m not saying it never happened, but I did not know anything about it,” Hobbins said. << (from the same link)
​

So two conflicting accounts and a neutral but at least they have actual names.

As for "as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime" that's a suggestion with nothing behind it. Not even a name.

B-bart ASKED the Newport (dinkyTown) Herald to comment on the allegation about AIDING in setting up that confrontation. Simplest thing would be for them to issue to denial. But instead they DODGED the question with no comments. THAT seems to indicate the veracity of the B-bart sources. Why would the paper just not categorically DENY that allegation?

Yanno what, I've actually spent time in Newport Rhode Island and never heard of "Dinky Town".

I have no evidence that Dimbart asked anybody anything. They cited no sources. I can't take the word of Steve Bannon as a serious source, just because he says so without any documentation. I mean come ON.

They said they have sources. When the WaPo says they have unnamed sources its a national scandal. Unnamed sources are the go-to of GREAT journalism these days. I asked you ---

When B-bart ASKED the paper for comment on allegation that THEY HELPED arrange this confrontation --- WHY did they simply not categorically deny it ?? THAT'S how "unnamed sources" get refuted is it not?

It is, but poges is intellectually dishonest as we all know. The fact that the newspaper (and I hate to grant it that moniker based on behavior) would print such scurrilous crap is a testament to how low the journalistic standards have fallen. Fortunately for the newspapers there are tones of slow witted people, like poges here, so they are able to get away with their unethical behavior.

Yes...that is why there needs to be a congressional hearing on fake news.

 

[Pogo]

Newspaper Fell For Now-Discredited Sean Spicer ‘Racism’ Tip-Off From Ex-Convict
66

Twitter, Cindy Ord/Getty Images for SiriusXM
2 Aug 2018120
Sean Spicer, President Donald Trump’s former press secretary, threatened legal action after the Associated Press picked up a Newport Daily New video of Boston-area man Alex Lombard accusing him on Friday of using a racial slur in the 1980s when the two men attended the same high school.

Breitbart News has learned that the viral video of Lombard confronting Spicer at a book signing that began the national media frenzy had its genesis when Lombard, a man with a history of trouble with the law, told the local paper he was planning the stunt.

Sources familiar with the matter told Breitbart News that a Newport Daily News representative admitted at least one of their employees was in contact with Lombard before the incident, setting up the filming with the expectation the incident would take place. The newspaper declined to comment on this, referring Breitbart News to their legal team.

The Associated Press quickly picked up the incident, providing no evidence of the accusation’s credibility beyond the word of Lombard, who, Breitbart News has since learned, spent nearly three years in a Georgia prison after multiple parole violations stemming from an arrest over crack cocaine possession. After his release in 2002, he entered a no contest plea to driving with a suspended license.

Lombard was quickly removed from the book signing, but not before he gave the gist of his accusation for the camera — that Spicer had called him the N-word while trying to instigate a fight. Lombard claimed to have been 14 at the time of the incident, which would place it circa 1987, when Spicer, who as an adult stands 5′ 6″, was 15 or 16.

A Twitter account with Lombard’s picture and only 16 followers has been making similar accusations since February 2017, shortly after Spicer joined the White House. In at least one instance he appears to be trying to get the attention of CNN:

I now think Pogo may have been a part of this scam....I wonder how many sites on the internet has he visited? The mods need to look into this poster Pogo.

Dood, you were in here declaring an event you have zero knowledge of to be a "lie". And when I asked what your credentials were to know that you had none. So if there's a "scam" going on here it's on your end pally.

In any case none of this is what the thread was about. This is in "US Constitution" for a reason. As I pointed out immediately in my OP it ain't about Sean Spicer or what did or didn't happen 30 years ago. It's about whether censorship of a story one finds inconvenient can validly be effected through legal intimidation.

Which is what Bowe, Spicer's lawyer-boy, implied he would do "Monday" --- and never did.


And btw as I pointed out in the other closed thread, you have no link here. I found the story anyway, in full, and as already noted, it cites NO SOURCES, quotes NO NAMES, and carries NO LINKS. Which makes it pretty fucking ironic that you stomped around throwing things about an AP article that CITED its sources and LINKED them, and now you think you discredit the event ----- not the AP story mind you but the event itself, which provably DID happen --- on the basis of an ipse dixit suggestion from Dimbart that has no idea where it got that info.

Wrong again....all spicer was asking for was a retraction about the part claiming he had used the n word.

Link?

C'mon, I stocked this pond with links at the start. Where is that specification?

This was a bood signing and the media was there and spicer had no problem with them being there and running a story about that. He did have a problem and legitimately so about them airing that video showing the Black guy accusing spicer of using the n word.

Once AGAIN the AP didn't "air that video" at all. I just linked the page.

That page begins, and I quote:

MIDDLETOWN, R.I. (AP) — A black man yelled at former White House press secretary Sean Spicer in a bookstore and accused Spicer of calling him a racial slur when they were students at a prep school decades ago.​

"A black man yelled". Subject, verb. WHO did WHAT. With the WHERE in the dateline.

The SECOND paragraph continues, with an immediate rebuttal:

Spicer was “taken aback” by the man’s “outrageous claim” and had no recollection of him or of being in school with him, his publicist said on Saturday.

​

Further details follow. A video does not.

Spicer was upset about that and only that as in he knew he had never done that. And there is no evidence he ever did and despite that the AP disseminated the video in which the black guy was saying that.

You can say this all night until the sun comes up but it doesn't make it appear. It just makes you a liar.

Once again you've re-articulated what I've noted all along --- you and lawyer-boy simply want to suppress a true story about a simple meaningless altercation, because you're scared shitless that people will read it, and that would be out of your control.

Again a violation of the journalism code of ethics as well as being defaming. They did not have to disseminate the video...it is quite apparant they did so in an effort to tarnish Spicer's image as well as that of the Trump administration since spicer had been a part of that. I mean this stuff goes on and on day in and day out. The alphabet media is always doing their utmost to discredit Trump......which is bias which is also against Journalism's code of ethics. And yet the media gets in a hissy fit because Trump correctly identifies their b.s. as fake news.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

 

[MacTheKnife]

Not at all -- B-bart has 2 students that the perp named on line DENYING the incident.

Can't believe I gotta give reading lessons in here ----

There is ONE guy, John Farley, I don't know if Dimbart mentioned him but NewportRI.com did --- who says it didn't happen that he tackled Spicer. That is not the same thing as saying the Spicer slur itself didn't happen; he just wasn't the one who tackled him, if anybody was. Other than that it's impossible to categorically prove a negative and declare that "I didn't see it, therefore it didn't happen". Bobby Darin tried to get away with that one too.

Personally I don't give a flying shit what happened 30 years ago. My concern from post number one is the idea of suppressing stories simply because one doesn't like what they recount. A story that's verified, eyewitnessed and recorded, thus indisputable.

It is not a matter of liking it is a matter of whether spicer used the n word or not. If you do not know...I will tell you now...and politician or any one associated with a politician who has been proven to use the n word will be forced to find another job. So it is a very,very serious matter to be accused of using the n word. You seem not to understand that.

 

[Pogo]

"All those other sources" DID NOT just repost the libel as fact. They covered the story from an ethics of journalism perspective and were GREATLY CRITICAL of the original DinkyTown source. Their purpose for the coverage was MUCH different than whatever purpose or motivation the DinkyTown Herald had in RUNNING that random sketchy hit piece. Or -- as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime.

I'll be looking for more info on the story. But right now all of Lombard'
witnesses are denying the event and allowing their NAMES to appear with the denials.

I have no idea what "Dinky Town" is or what you're talking about here. There is no "Dinky Town Herald" I've ever heard of.

But I did take the liberty to look around to the original reporting source (NewportRI.com) and found a followup that leaves conflicting accounts -- here

Lombard says John Farley (brother of Chris) tackled Spicer; Farley says nothing like that happened. Marc Leandro on the other hand says it definitely did happen. Yet another he said - he said.

Then there was:

>> Cliff Hobbins has been teaching subjects including history, economics and foreign policy at Portsmouth Abbey since 1976, and was a housemaster when the alleged incident occurred. He said Portsmouth Abbey housemasters met regularly and there was never a hint of such a disturbance.

“Something like that would have spread like wildfire among the students and it would have gotten back to the faculty,” Hobbins said. “We have very strict disciplinary policies regarding something like that. Sean Spicer would have been expelled if anything like that occurred.

“I’m not saying it never happened, but I did not know anything about it,” Hobbins said. << (from the same link)
​

So two conflicting accounts and a neutral but at least they have actual names.

As for "as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime" that's a suggestion with nothing behind it. Not even a name.

B-bart ASKED the Newport (dinkyTown) Herald to comment on the allegation about AIDING in setting up that confrontation. Simplest thing would be for them to issue to denial. But instead they DODGED the question with no comments. THAT seems to indicate the veracity of the B-bart sources. Why would the paper just not categorically DENY that allegation?

Yanno what, I've actually spent time in Newport Rhode Island and never heard of "Dinky Town".

I have no evidence that Dimbart asked anybody anything. They cited no sources. I can't take the word of Steve Bannon as a serious source, just because he says so without any documentation. I mean come ON.

They said they have sources. When the WaPo says they have unnamed sources its a national scandal. Unnamed sources are the go-to of GREAT journalism these days. I asked you ---

When B-bart ASKED the paper for comment on allegation that THEY HELPED arrange this confrontation --- WHY did they simply not categorically deny it ?? THAT'S how "unnamed sources" get refuted is it not?

It is, but poges is intellectually dishonest as we all know. The fact that the newspaper (and I hate to grant it that moniker based on behavior) would print such scurrilous crap is a testament to how low the journalistic standards have fallen. Fortunately for the newspapers there are tones of slow witted people, like poges here, so they are able to get away with their unethical behavior.

Once AGAIN it's a real incident that really happened. Y'all want to sit here and deny that an incident recorded on video didn't happen, there's nothing we can do about your tenuous grasp on reality.

 

[Pogo]

Not at all -- B-bart has 2 students that the perp named on line DENYING the incident.

Can't believe I gotta give reading lessons in here ----

There is ONE guy, John Farley, I don't know if Dimbart mentioned him but NewportRI.com did --- who says it didn't happen that he tackled Spicer. That is not the same thing as saying the Spicer slur itself didn't happen; he just wasn't the one who tackled him, if anybody was. Other than that it's impossible to categorically prove a negative and declare that "I didn't see it, therefore it didn't happen". Bobby Darin tried to get away with that one too.

Personally I don't give a flying shit what happened 30 years ago. My concern from post number one is the idea of suppressing stories simply because one doesn't like what they recount. A story that's verified, eyewitnessed and recorded, thus indisputable.

It is not a matter of liking it is a matter of whether spicer used the n word or not. If you do not know...I will tell you now...and politician or any one associated with a politician who has been proven to use the n word will be forced to find another job. So it is a very,very serious matter to be accused of using the n word. You seem not to understand that.

Once AGAIN the issue is NOT ABOUT SPICER. Whether he used an n-word or a p-word or a W-word is fucking irrelevant. The issue is whether you fascists can just suppress events you wish would not get out. You seem to not understand THAT.

 

[MacTheKnife]

I have no idea what "Dinky Town" is or what you're talking about here. There is no "Dinky Town Herald" I've ever heard of.

But I did take the liberty to look around to the original reporting source (NewportRI.com) and found a followup that leaves conflicting accounts -- here

Lombard says John Farley (brother of Chris) tackled Spicer; Farley says nothing like that happened. Marc Leandro on the other hand says it definitely did happen. Yet another he said - he said.

Then there was:

>> Cliff Hobbins has been teaching subjects including history, economics and foreign policy at Portsmouth Abbey since 1976, and was a housemaster when the alleged incident occurred. He said Portsmouth Abbey housemasters met regularly and there was never a hint of such a disturbance.

“Something like that would have spread like wildfire among the students and it would have gotten back to the faculty,” Hobbins said. “We have very strict disciplinary policies regarding something like that. Sean Spicer would have been expelled if anything like that occurred.

“I’m not saying it never happened, but I did not know anything about it,” Hobbins said. << (from the same link)
​

So two conflicting accounts and a neutral but at least they have actual names.

As for "as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime" that's a suggestion with nothing behind it. Not even a name.

B-bart ASKED the Newport (dinkyTown) Herald to comment on the allegation about AIDING in setting up that confrontation. Simplest thing would be for them to issue to denial. But instead they DODGED the question with no comments. THAT seems to indicate the veracity of the B-bart sources. Why would the paper just not categorically DENY that allegation?

Yanno what, I've actually spent time in Newport Rhode Island and never heard of "Dinky Town".

I have no evidence that Dimbart asked anybody anything. They cited no sources. I can't take the word of Steve Bannon as a serious source, just because he says so without any documentation. I mean come ON.

They said they have sources. When the WaPo says they have unnamed sources its a national scandal. Unnamed sources are the go-to of GREAT journalism these days. I asked you ---

When B-bart ASKED the paper for comment on allegation that THEY HELPED arrange this confrontation --- WHY did they simply not categorically deny it ?? THAT'S how "unnamed sources" get refuted is it not?

It is, but poges is intellectually dishonest as we all know. The fact that the newspaper (and I hate to grant it that moniker based on behavior) would print such scurrilous crap is a testament to how low the journalistic standards have fallen. Fortunately for the newspapers there are tones of slow witted people, like poges here, so they are able to get away with their unethical behavior.

Once AGAIN it's a real incident that really happened. Y'all want to sit here and deny that an incident recorded on video didn't happen, there's nothing we can do about your tenuous grasp on reality.

What incident are you talking about???

 

[MacTheKnife]

I have no idea what "Dinky Town" is or what you're talking about here. There is no "Dinky Town Herald" I've ever heard of.

But I did take the liberty to look around to the original reporting source (NewportRI.com) and found a followup that leaves conflicting accounts -- here

Lombard says John Farley (brother of Chris) tackled Spicer; Farley says nothing like that happened. Marc Leandro on the other hand says it definitely did happen. Yet another he said - he said.

Then there was:

>> Cliff Hobbins has been teaching subjects including history, economics and foreign policy at Portsmouth Abbey since 1976, and was a housemaster when the alleged incident occurred. He said Portsmouth Abbey housemasters met regularly and there was never a hint of such a disturbance.

“Something like that would have spread like wildfire among the students and it would have gotten back to the faculty,” Hobbins said. “We have very strict disciplinary policies regarding something like that. Sean Spicer would have been expelled if anything like that occurred.

“I’m not saying it never happened, but I did not know anything about it,” Hobbins said. << (from the same link)
​

So two conflicting accounts and a neutral but at least they have actual names.

As for "as it now seems possible -- those "journalists" were actually complicit in the crime" that's a suggestion with nothing behind it. Not even a name.

B-bart ASKED the Newport (dinkyTown) Herald to comment on the allegation about AIDING in setting up that confrontation. Simplest thing would be for them to issue to denial. But instead they DODGED the question with no comments. THAT seems to indicate the veracity of the B-bart sources. Why would the paper just not categorically DENY that allegation?

Yanno what, I've actually spent time in Newport Rhode Island and never heard of "Dinky Town".

I have no evidence that Dimbart asked anybody anything. They cited no sources. I can't take the word of Steve Bannon as a serious source, just because he says so without any documentation. I mean come ON.

They said they have sources. When the WaPo says they have unnamed sources its a national scandal. Unnamed sources are the go-to of GREAT journalism these days. I asked you ---

When B-bart ASKED the paper for comment on allegation that THEY HELPED arrange this confrontation --- WHY did they simply not categorically deny it ?? THAT'S how "unnamed sources" get refuted is it not?

It is, but poges is intellectually dishonest as we all know. The fact that the newspaper (and I hate to grant it that moniker based on behavior) would print such scurrilous crap is a testament to how low the journalistic standards have fallen. Fortunately for the newspapers there are tones of slow witted people, like poges here, so they are able to get away with their unethical behavior.

Once AGAIN it's a real incident that really happened. Y'all want to sit here and deny that an incident recorded on video didn't happen, there's nothing we can do about your tenuous grasp on reality.

Again what incident are you talking about?

 

[MacTheKnife]

geez did he run away...or just getting old and slow.?