Is the constitution outdated?

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    I am beginning to think the constitution is highly overated. I have talked to people who say the constitution protects me an my family.

    How so?

    Not even to mention all the Presidents who have violated it. So what gives?
     
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    The Constitution allows you to argue your opinion based on your interpretation of it.
    The official interpretation is determined by the color of the Supreme Court at any given time.
    So it can protect you, or threaten your welfare, depending on the composition of this politically appointed covey of witches.
     
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    Ummm ... no.
     
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    You think it is out dated? Then get enough votes in Congress to hold a convention to change it. Otherwise just obey it.
     
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    Yes Obama and the far left thought the same thing..

    To the far left it is just a GD piece of paper..
     
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    Living documents evolve. They never get outdated. These so called "originalists", they are outdated.
     
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    Yes, I completely agree....I think a lot of people overlook that.....so in essence I think you would admit that the Supreme Court is the one that protects us or puts us in danger. And, since Presidents or the congress or some combination thereof determine who is on the Supreme Ct. it is the people who by their actions of voting actually determine their own safety and security. And, unfortunately the people often make the wrong decisions.. That is how we got someone like ginsburg.

    Thus I must conclude the constitution is not the great protector of the people as so many mistakenly believe.
     
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    Exactly direct from the far left doctrines..

    SCOTUS is supposed to determine what is and what is not Constitutional, not legislate from the bench.

    That is why you never vote far left!
     
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    I seem to remember George Bush saying that? Am I wrong? hmmmmm ...pardon me while I look that up:

    Capitol Hill Blue, reported that president George Bush responded to GOP concerns (behind a closed door, non-verifiable meeting) about the more onerous provisions of the Patriot Act renewal in a rather cheney like manner.

    GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

    “I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

    “Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

    “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
     
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    Yes, a system where a voter in one state may have an effective voting power multiples of a voter in another state is well past its use by date. Combined with legislation the US Constitution ensures unequal representation of US citizens. If for no other reason than that it should be amended, at the least.
    Too, the two house Congress is unwieldy, with the 2nd house of little benefit except to ignore the will of the people. I will concede it was probably created with this in mind, but such notions are now outdated.
     
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