" Sorry, We Don’t Take Obamacare"

I have private healthcare GAP with Medicare. I hate damned Obamacare and so do my doctors. They're drowning in "paperwork" (i.e. computer overload). Right now my PCP's medical records are so screwed up it's pathetic and I'm pretty hostile over it. Good damned way to get a patient killed if it's misleading to some other doctor or ER that's in the "network" and doesn't know shit from Shineola.

Why would they be drowning in more paperwork?

All kinds of reporting info ... required info into CMS "national" database ... one MD just rolled her eyes and shook her head, another said he hated it ... rather go back to old fashioned handwritten files. I did a new patient info thing online a couple weeks ago and the damned thing took me over an HOUR to complete and it was so convoluted I lost track of what the hell I was doing and didn't even answer some of the stuff - same shit over and over and over again. If I had done it in writing it would have taken me about 10 minutes. Pain in the ass.


I have private healthcare GAP with Medicare. I hate damned Obamacare and so do my doctors. They're drowning in "paperwork" (i.e. computer overload). Right now my PCP's medical records are so screwed up it's pathetic and I'm pretty hostile over it. Good damned way to get a patient killed if it's misleading to some other doctor or ER that's in the "network" and doesn't know shit from Shineola.

Why would they be drowning in more paperwork?

All kinds of reporting info ... required info into CMS "national" database ... one MD just rolled her eyes and shook her head, another said he hated it ... rather go back to old fashioned handwritten files. I did a new patient info thing online a couple weeks ago and the damned thing took me over an HOUR to complete and it was so convoluted I lost track of what the hell I was doing and didn't even answer some of the stuff - same shit over and over and over again. If I had done it in writing it would have taken me about 10 minutes. Pain in the ass.

We have 2 hospital systems in our area and they are not connected yet, hopefully soon. Its been coming for a long time , not just since the ACA, digital medical records accessible to all medical dr who treat you to pull up. I think its a great system and well still is in its infancy so will continue to get better. I do understand its probably harder for those not as computer savvy as younger people are, but they should offer to send you an information package through the mail if one wants to do it longhand.

In the long run hopefully it will lead to better care. Most doctors dictate into a recorder, my family dr uses an IPAD. The digital age of medical records really is not something new with the ACA.
What is new with the ACA is the government telling you you have to have insurance and penalizing you if you don't. Thanks to the socialist left and obuthole.
Well, that, and people's co pays went up, premiums went up, and deductibles went waaaay up. In reality it is the unaffordable care act.
 
I have private healthcare GAP with Medicare. I hate damned Obamacare and so do my doctors. They're drowning in "paperwork" (i.e. computer overload). Right now my PCP's medical records are so screwed up it's pathetic and I'm pretty hostile over it. Good damned way to get a patient killed if it's misleading to some other doctor or ER that's in the "network" and doesn't know shit from Shineola.

Why would they be drowning in more paperwork?

All kinds of reporting info ... required info into CMS "national" database ... one MD just rolled her eyes and shook her head, another said he hated it ... rather go back to old fashioned handwritten files. I did a new patient info thing online a couple weeks ago and the damned thing took me over an HOUR to complete and it was so convoluted I lost track of what the hell I was doing and didn't even answer some of the stuff - same shit over and over and over again. If I had done it in writing it would have taken me about 10 minutes. Pain in the ass.


I have private healthcare GAP with Medicare. I hate damned Obamacare and so do my doctors. They're drowning in "paperwork" (i.e. computer overload). Right now my PCP's medical records are so screwed up it's pathetic and I'm pretty hostile over it. Good damned way to get a patient killed if it's misleading to some other doctor or ER that's in the "network" and doesn't know shit from Shineola.

Why would they be drowning in more paperwork?

All kinds of reporting info ... required info into CMS "national" database ... one MD just rolled her eyes and shook her head, another said he hated it ... rather go back to old fashioned handwritten files. I did a new patient info thing online a couple weeks ago and the damned thing took me over an HOUR to complete and it was so convoluted I lost track of what the hell I was doing and didn't even answer some of the stuff - same shit over and over and over again. If I had done it in writing it would have taken me about 10 minutes. Pain in the ass.

We have 2 hospital systems in our area and they are not connected yet, hopefully soon. Its been coming for a long time , not just since the ACA, digital medical records accessible to all medical dr who treat you to pull up. I think its a great system and well still is in its infancy so will continue to get better. I do understand its probably harder for those not as computer savvy as younger people are, but they should offer to send you an information package through the mail if one wants to do it longhand.

In the long run hopefully it will lead to better care. Most doctors dictate into a recorder, my family dr uses an IPAD. The digital age of medical records really is not something new with the ACA.
What is new with the ACA is the government telling you you have to have insurance and penalizing you if you don't. Thanks to the socialist left and obuthole.

Good its about time everyone is made to pay something according to their income.
 
I have private healthcare GAP with Medicare. I hate damned Obamacare and so do my doctors. They're drowning in "paperwork" (i.e. computer overload). Right now my PCP's medical records are so screwed up it's pathetic and I'm pretty hostile over it. Good damned way to get a patient killed if it's misleading to some other doctor or ER that's in the "network" and doesn't know shit from Shineola.

Why would they be drowning in more paperwork?

All kinds of reporting info ... required info into CMS "national" database ... one MD just rolled her eyes and shook her head, another said he hated it ... rather go back to old fashioned handwritten files. I did a new patient info thing online a couple weeks ago and the damned thing took me over an HOUR to complete and it was so convoluted I lost track of what the hell I was doing and didn't even answer some of the stuff - same shit over and over and over again. If I had done it in writing it would have taken me about 10 minutes. Pain in the ass.


I have private healthcare GAP with Medicare. I hate damned Obamacare and so do my doctors. They're drowning in "paperwork" (i.e. computer overload). Right now my PCP's medical records are so screwed up it's pathetic and I'm pretty hostile over it. Good damned way to get a patient killed if it's misleading to some other doctor or ER that's in the "network" and doesn't know shit from Shineola.

Why would they be drowning in more paperwork?

All kinds of reporting info ... required info into CMS "national" database ... one MD just rolled her eyes and shook her head, another said he hated it ... rather go back to old fashioned handwritten files. I did a new patient info thing online a couple weeks ago and the damned thing took me over an HOUR to complete and it was so convoluted I lost track of what the hell I was doing and didn't even answer some of the stuff - same shit over and over and over again. If I had done it in writing it would have taken me about 10 minutes. Pain in the ass.

We have 2 hospital systems in our area and they are not connected yet, hopefully soon. Its been coming for a long time , not just since the ACA, digital medical records accessible to all medical dr who treat you to pull up. I think its a great system and well still is in its infancy so will continue to get better. I do understand its probably harder for those not as computer savvy as younger people are, but they should offer to send you an information package through the mail if one wants to do it longhand.

In the long run hopefully it will lead to better care. Most doctors dictate into a recorder, my family dr uses an IPAD. The digital age of medical records really is not something new with the ACA.
What is new with the ACA is the government telling you you have to have insurance and penalizing you if you don't. Thanks to the socialist left and obuthole.
Well, that, and people's co pays went up, premiums went up, and deductibles went waaaay up. In reality it is the unaffordable care act.

Really my husband is self employed and every year for his birthday he got a 100 pay raise for his gift.
 
I have private healthcare GAP with Medicare. I hate damned Obamacare and so do my doctors. They're drowning in "paperwork" (i.e. computer overload). Right now my PCP's medical records are so screwed up it's pathetic and I'm pretty hostile over it. Good damned way to get a patient killed if it's misleading to some other doctor or ER that's in the "network" and doesn't know shit from Shineola.

Why would they be drowning in more paperwork?

All kinds of reporting info ... required info into CMS "national" database ... one MD just rolled her eyes and shook her head, another said he hated it ... rather go back to old fashioned handwritten files. I did a new patient info thing online a couple weeks ago and the damned thing took me over an HOUR to complete and it was so convoluted I lost track of what the hell I was doing and didn't even answer some of the stuff - same shit over and over and over again. If I had done it in writing it would have taken me about 10 minutes. Pain in the ass.


I have private healthcare GAP with Medicare. I hate damned Obamacare and so do my doctors. They're drowning in "paperwork" (i.e. computer overload). Right now my PCP's medical records are so screwed up it's pathetic and I'm pretty hostile over it. Good damned way to get a patient killed if it's misleading to some other doctor or ER that's in the "network" and doesn't know shit from Shineola.

Why would they be drowning in more paperwork?

All kinds of reporting info ... required info into CMS "national" database ... one MD just rolled her eyes and shook her head, another said he hated it ... rather go back to old fashioned handwritten files. I did a new patient info thing online a couple weeks ago and the damned thing took me over an HOUR to complete and it was so convoluted I lost track of what the hell I was doing and didn't even answer some of the stuff - same shit over and over and over again. If I had done it in writing it would have taken me about 10 minutes. Pain in the ass.

We have 2 hospital systems in our area and they are not connected yet, hopefully soon. Its been coming for a long time , not just since the ACA, digital medical records accessible to all medical dr who treat you to pull up. I think its a great system and well still is in its infancy so will continue to get better. I do understand its probably harder for those not as computer savvy as younger people are, but they should offer to send you an information package through the mail if one wants to do it longhand.

In the long run hopefully it will leave to better care. Most doctors dictate into a recorder, my family dr uses an IPAD. The digital age of medical records really is not something new with the ACA.

I'm not exactly unsavvy with computers and have worked on a few really sophisticated programs/databases in my time. NOW maybe I can finish this - every time I get on USMB my computer starts acting up or locking up. Some old sayings still hold true today when it comes to users - "garbage in - garbage out." When a doctor's office with multiple physicians, nurses, lab techs, clerical staff and nobody is communicating - shit happens. Nobody has time (or takes the time) to communicate or double check. The volume of work is high and only so many hours in a day. Hell, my PCP's office doesn't even have my insurance info updated and they definitely have copies of the correct info on file and worse yet, some of my scrip dosages are wrong. So if you add in several different entities checking this info and some of it is wrong ... shit can happen.

So when you get your copy of your report, best advice is go over it with a fine toothed comb and have the info corrected where it's wrong.
 
Reforming health care would be rather easy if they thought about it. Tighten up those tort laws and reduce or eliminate medical malpractice claims. Make health insurance more like car insurance. Insurance doesn't buy tires or pay for smog checks. Health insurance should not pay for routine doctor visits. Allow insurance to be sold across state lines.
Yeah, who needs insurance for routine doctor visits? I'd love to pay $400 for a annual check-up, or to have a rash looked at and given a prescription for a tube of ointment :thup:
It wouldn't cost nearly that much. I always paid for my own medical care. I paid cash and got a substantial discount. My annual exam was $50.00. Lab work was $10.00. If insurance didn't pay $400.00 doctors would compete for cash customers.
When did lab work cost $10? 1952?
Last year.
 
Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/sunday-review/sorry-we-dont-take-obamacare.html?_r=0

may 14 2016 AMY MOSES and her circle of self-employed small-business owners were supporters of President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. They bought policies on the newly created New York State exchange. But when they called doctors and hospitals in Manhattan to schedule appointments, they were dismayed to be turned away again and again with a common refrain: “We don’t take Obamacare,” the umbrella epithet for the hundreds of plans offered through the president’s signature health legislation.

“Anyone who is on these plans knows it’s a two-tiered system,” said Ms. Moses, describing the emotional sting of those words to a successful entrepreneur.

The goal of the Affordable Care Act, which took effect in 2013, was to provide insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or under-insured Americans, through online state and federal marketplaces offering an array of policies.

Yet even as many beneficiaries acknowledge that they might not have insurance today without the law, there remains a strong undercurrent of discontent. Though their insurance cards look the same as everyone else’s — with names like Liberty and Freedom from insurers like Anthem or United Health — the plans are often very different from those provided to most Americans by their employers. Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.


We had a pretty good healthcare system relative to what?

Not sure, ask the unemployed laid off workers with a preexisting condition. Or those stuck in a job with a pre existing condition because their jobs helps pay for health ins, and they know no one else will hire them with their medical condition, and they will most likely be traded when they reach the age of 50 for a younger healthier model or a HBI visa person.


Check out WHO healthcare outcomes for the US' most expensive and most rapidly increasing healthcare system costs on the planet. Not very impressive at all.
 
Reforming health care would be rather easy if they thought about it. Tighten up those tort laws and reduce or eliminate medical malpractice claims. Make health insurance more like car insurance. Insurance doesn't buy tires or pay for smog checks. Health insurance should not pay for routine doctor visits. Allow insurance to be sold across state lines.
Yeah, who needs insurance for routine doctor visits? I'd love to pay $400 for a annual check-up, or to have a rash looked at and given a prescription for a tube of ointment :thup:
It wouldn't cost nearly that much. I always paid for my own medical care. I paid cash and got a substantial discount. My annual exam was $50.00. Lab work was $10.00. If insurance didn't pay $400.00 doctors would compete for cash customers.
When did lab work cost $10? 1952?
Last year.
Yeah sure. It costs more than that to transport it. Then you have to factor in the time it takes to process it. Lab technicians don't work for free.
 
Reforming health care would be rather easy if they thought about it. Tighten up those tort laws and reduce or eliminate medical malpractice claims. Make health insurance more like car insurance. Insurance doesn't buy tires or pay for smog checks. Health insurance should not pay for routine doctor visits. Allow insurance to be sold across state lines.
Yeah, who needs insurance for routine doctor visits? I'd love to pay $400 for a annual check-up, or to have a rash looked at and given a prescription for a tube of ointment :thup:
It wouldn't cost nearly that much. I always paid for my own medical care. I paid cash and got a substantial discount. My annual exam was $50.00. Lab work was $10.00. If insurance didn't pay $400.00 doctors would compete for cash customers.
When did lab work cost $10? 1952?
Last year.

Evidence please? Thanks.
 
Part of obutholes plan to turn this country into a third world country, much to libtards delight.
obuthole...obozo....libtards. I`m glad you chickenshit racist goons aren`t of voting age.
I vote, I am smart enough not to vote for socialist pricks lick obuthole, unlike you retards. You friggin pussy.

"Obamacare" was crafted by the Heritage Foundation bub, look into it.
So the Heritage Foundation wrote the law and 100% of the democrats voted for it and Obamacareman signed it into law? Right? Do we got that right?


Yup, the "conservative" think tank, the Heritage Foundation. Look it up. Gotdamn "liberals".
 
Reforming health care would be rather easy if they thought about it. Tighten up those tort laws and reduce or eliminate medical malpractice claims. Make health insurance more like car insurance. Insurance doesn't buy tires or pay for smog checks. Health insurance should not pay for routine doctor visits. Allow insurance to be sold across state lines.
Yeah, who needs insurance for routine doctor visits? I'd love to pay $400 for a annual check-up, or to have a rash looked at and given a prescription for a tube of ointment :thup:
It wouldn't cost nearly that much. I always paid for my own medical care. I paid cash and got a substantial discount. My annual exam was $50.00. Lab work was $10.00. If insurance didn't pay $400.00 doctors would compete for cash customers.
When did lab work cost $10? 1952?
Last year.
Yeah sure. It costs more than that to transport it. Then you have to factor in the time it takes to process it. Lab technicians don't work for free.

They work for as close to free as they can be pushed to accept it.
 
Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/sunday-review/sorry-we-dont-take-obamacare.html?_r=0

may 14 2016 AMY MOSES and her circle of self-employed small-business owners were supporters of President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. They bought policies on the newly created New York State exchange. But when they called doctors and hospitals in Manhattan to schedule appointments, they were dismayed to be turned away again and again with a common refrain: “We don’t take Obamacare,” the umbrella epithet for the hundreds of plans offered through the president’s signature health legislation.

“Anyone who is on these plans knows it’s a two-tiered system,” said Ms. Moses, describing the emotional sting of those words to a successful entrepreneur.

The goal of the Affordable Care Act, which took effect in 2013, was to provide insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or under-insured Americans, through online state and federal marketplaces offering an array of policies.

Yet even as many beneficiaries acknowledge that they might not have insurance today without the law, there remains a strong undercurrent of discontent. Though their insurance cards look the same as everyone else’s — with names like Liberty and Freedom from insurers like Anthem or United Health — the plans are often very different from those provided to most Americans by their employers. Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.


We had a pretty good healthcare system relative to what?

Not sure, ask the unemployed laid off workers with a preexisting condition. Or those stuck in a job with a pre existing condition because their jobs helps pay for health ins, and they know no one else will hire them with their medical condition, and they will most likely be traded when they reach the age of 50 for a younger healthier model or a HBI visa person.


Check out WHO healthcare outcomes for the US' most expensive and most rapidly increasing healthcare system costs on the planet. Not very impressive at all.

Give me a link. We will have lower cost as soon as we get rid of health insurance companies, a very wealthy business.
 
Part of obutholes plan to turn this country into a third world country, much to libtards delight.
obuthole...obozo....libtards. I`m glad you chickenshit racist goons aren`t of voting age.
I vote, I am smart enough not to vote for socialist pricks lick obuthole, unlike you retards. You friggin pussy.

"Obamacare" was crafted by the Heritage Foundation bub, look into it.
So the Heritage Foundation wrote the law and 100% of the democrats voted for it and Obamacareman signed it into law? Right? Do we got that right?


Yup, the "conservative" think tank, the Heritage Foundation. Look it up. Gotdamn "liberals".
Well why did the fucktards democrats legislate pass and sign into law an idea from the heritage foundation?
 
Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/sunday-review/sorry-we-dont-take-obamacare.html?_r=0

may 14 2016 AMY MOSES and her circle of self-employed small-business owners were supporters of President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. They bought policies on the newly created New York State exchange. But when they called doctors and hospitals in Manhattan to schedule appointments, they were dismayed to be turned away again and again with a common refrain: “We don’t take Obamacare,” the umbrella epithet for the hundreds of plans offered through the president’s signature health legislation.

“Anyone who is on these plans knows it’s a two-tiered system,” said Ms. Moses, describing the emotional sting of those words to a successful entrepreneur.

The goal of the Affordable Care Act, which took effect in 2013, was to provide insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or under-insured Americans, through online state and federal marketplaces offering an array of policies.

Yet even as many beneficiaries acknowledge that they might not have insurance today without the law, there remains a strong undercurrent of discontent. Though their insurance cards look the same as everyone else’s — with names like Liberty and Freedom from insurers like Anthem or United Health — the plans are often very different from those provided to most Americans by their employers. Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.


We had a pretty good healthcare system relative to what?

Not sure, ask the unemployed laid off workers with a preexisting condition. Or those stuck in a job with a pre existing condition because their jobs helps pay for health ins, and they know no one else will hire them with their medical condition, and they will most likely be traded when they reach the age of 50 for a younger healthier model or a HBI visa person.


Check out WHO healthcare outcomes for the US' most expensive and most rapidly increasing healthcare system costs on the planet. Not very impressive at all.

Give me a link. We will have lower cost as soon as we get rid of health insurance companies, a very wealthy business.
I hope your gov. Care is as good as the vets get. ROFLMAO.
 
I have private healthcare GAP with Medicare. I hate damned Obamacare and so do my doctors. They're drowning in "paperwork" (i.e. computer overload). Right now my PCP's medical records are so screwed up it's pathetic and I'm pretty hostile over it. Good damned way to get a patient killed if it's misleading to some other doctor or ER that's in the "network" and doesn't know shit from Shineola.

Why would they be drowning in more paperwork?

All kinds of reporting info ... required info into CMS "national" database ... one MD just rolled her eyes and shook her head, another said he hated it ... rather go back to old fashioned handwritten files. I did a new patient info thing online a couple weeks ago and the damned thing took me over an HOUR to complete and it was so convoluted I lost track of what the hell I was doing and didn't even answer some of the stuff - same shit over and over and over again. If I had done it in writing it would have taken me about 10 minutes. Pain in the ass.


I have private healthcare GAP with Medicare. I hate damned Obamacare and so do my doctors. They're drowning in "paperwork" (i.e. computer overload). Right now my PCP's medical records are so screwed up it's pathetic and I'm pretty hostile over it. Good damned way to get a patient killed if it's misleading to some other doctor or ER that's in the "network" and doesn't know shit from Shineola.

Why would they be drowning in more paperwork?

All kinds of reporting info ... required info into CMS "national" database ... one MD just rolled her eyes and shook her head, another said he hated it ... rather go back to old fashioned handwritten files. I did a new patient info thing online a couple weeks ago and the damned thing took me over an HOUR to complete and it was so convoluted I lost track of what the hell I was doing and didn't even answer some of the stuff - same shit over and over and over again. If I had done it in writing it would have taken me about 10 minutes. Pain in the ass.

We have 2 hospital systems in our area and they are not connected yet, hopefully soon. Its been coming for a long time , not just since the ACA, digital medical records accessible to all medical dr who treat you to pull up. I think its a great system and well still is in its infancy so will continue to get better. I do understand its probably harder for those not as computer savvy as younger people are, but they should offer to send you an information package through the mail if one wants to do it longhand.

In the long run hopefully it will leave to better care. Most doctors dictate into a recorder, my family dr uses an IPAD. The digital age of medical records really is not something new with the ACA.

I'm not exactly unsavvy with computers and have worked on a few really sophisticated programs/databases in my time. NOW maybe I can finish this - every time I get on USMB my computer starts acting up or locking up. Some old sayings still hold true today when it comes to users - "garbage in - garbage out." When a doctor's office with multiple physicians, nurses, lab techs, clerical staff and nobody is communicating - shit happens. Nobody has time (or takes the time) to communicate or double check. The volume of work is high and only so many hours in a day. Hell, my PCP's office doesn't even have my insurance info updated and they definitely have copies of the correct info on file and worse yet, some of my scrip dosages are wrong. So if you add in several different entities checking this info and some of it is wrong ... shit can happen.

So when you get your copy of your report, best advice is go over it with a fine toothed comb and have the info corrected where it's wrong.

I have to agree, we have to check what computers put out, as humans input into computers and errors can happen. We got a bill recently of a ct scan that charged for the dye although my husband did not get dye, so we must watch everything. It can be frustrating when you call someone and they say their computer system is slow or down. All in all I do believe its a step in the right direction. I can go online and check my lab results and so can doctors.

Also it will be good to check if a patient is doctor hopping to get meds, I know people want their privacy, but the system is so crooked its needs to be fixed and monitored, Medicare and Medicaid fraud, also insurance companies are crooked as well.

Having worked in the medical profession till recently errors are a big issue, and well to be truthful, Dr. House is right , people lie.

Unfortunately I would not want employers or anyone else privy to medical records except those that need to be, and that is the problem I have with it. Seems today potential employers know everything about a person before the interview, medical, criminal, etc. and so do landlords and bankers. We have no privacy anymore.

I know your right, some office are so good, while others are not, it depends, but this is the future, I know I learned a computer while working in the mid 90's and I so hated it, so time consuming, having to learn to input data instead of just writing it out, hated it.
 
Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.


We had a pretty good healthcare system relative to what?

Not sure, ask the unemployed laid off workers with a preexisting condition. Or those stuck in a job with a pre existing condition because their jobs helps pay for health ins, and they know no one else will hire them with their medical condition, and they will most likely be traded when they reach the age of 50 for a younger healthier model or a HBI visa person.


Check out WHO healthcare outcomes for the US' most expensive and most rapidly increasing healthcare system costs on the planet. Not very impressive at all.

Give me a link. We will have lower cost as soon as we get rid of health insurance companies, a very wealthy business.
I hope your gov. Care is as good as the vets get. ROFLMAO.

I think vets should go to any hospital, except for acute rehab , a veteran's rehab unit would be best for them among others with the same condition. Hopefully we will have less need for that in the future.
 
Yeah, who needs insurance for routine doctor visits? I'd love to pay $400 for a annual check-up, or to have a rash looked at and given a prescription for a tube of ointment :thup:

You don't need an annual checkup, you moron. Don't go to a doctor unless there's a bone showing. Health care is so expensive because of idiots like you that refuse to doctor yourself and go running to an "expert" for every problem or even when there is no problem at all!!! THINK
 
Also it will be good to check if a patient is doctor hopping to get meds, I know people want their privacy, but the system is so crooked its needs to be fixed and monitored, Medicare and Medicaid fraud, also insurance companies are crooked as well.

.

Massive fraud is unavoidable in any system where a third party pays for healthcare. 30 million americans have deals rigged with their doctor where they are billed every month for fictitious services. Insurance pays and the doc and patient split the money.
 
So the Heritage Foundation wrote the law and 100% of the democrats voted for it and Obamacareman signed it into law? Right? Do we got that right?


100% of dems did NOT vote for obamacare but it's true that ZERO % of repubs did. This mess is entirely the fault of obozo.
 

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