" Sorry, We Don’t Take Obamacare"

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Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/sunday-review/sorry-we-dont-take-obamacare.html?_r=0

may 14 2016 AMY MOSES and her circle of self-employed small-business owners were supporters of President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. They bought policies on the newly created New York State exchange. But when they called doctors and hospitals in Manhattan to schedule appointments, they were dismayed to be turned away again and again with a common refrain: “We don’t take Obamacare,” the umbrella epithet for the hundreds of plans offered through the president’s signature health legislation.

“Anyone who is on these plans knows it’s a two-tiered system,” said Ms. Moses, describing the emotional sting of those words to a successful entrepreneur.

The goal of the Affordable Care Act, which took effect in 2013, was to provide insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or under-insured Americans, through online state and federal marketplaces offering an array of policies.

Yet even as many beneficiaries acknowledge that they might not have insurance today without the law, there remains a strong undercurrent of discontent. Though their insurance cards look the same as everyone else’s — with names like Liberty and Freedom from insurers like Anthem or United Health — the plans are often very different from those provided to most Americans by their employers. Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.
 
Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/sunday-review/sorry-we-dont-take-obamacare.html?_r=0

may 14 2016 AMY MOSES and her circle of self-employed small-business owners were supporters of President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. They bought policies on the newly created New York State exchange. But when they called doctors and hospitals in Manhattan to schedule appointments, they were dismayed to be turned away again and again with a common refrain: “We don’t take Obamacare,” the umbrella epithet for the hundreds of plans offered through the president’s signature health legislation.

“Anyone who is on these plans knows it’s a two-tiered system,” said Ms. Moses, describing the emotional sting of those words to a successful entrepreneur.

The goal of the Affordable Care Act, which took effect in 2013, was to provide insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or under-insured Americans, through online state and federal marketplaces offering an array of policies.

Yet even as many beneficiaries acknowledge that they might not have insurance today without the law, there remains a strong undercurrent of discontent. Though their insurance cards look the same as everyone else’s — with names like Liberty and Freedom from insurers like Anthem or United Health — the plans are often very different from those provided to most Americans by their employers. Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.

If only those Republican run states, not mentioning names would just expand Medicaid, but they want the ACA to fail, since they didn't create it and make it come to light (although in a way they have talked about the same idea since 1990) They should be made to expand Medicaid, like it or not.
 
Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/sunday-review/sorry-we-dont-take-obamacare.html?_r=0

may 14 2016 AMY MOSES and her circle of self-employed small-business owners were supporters of President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. They bought policies on the newly created New York State exchange. But when they called doctors and hospitals in Manhattan to schedule appointments, they were dismayed to be turned away again and again with a common refrain: “We don’t take Obamacare,” the umbrella epithet for the hundreds of plans offered through the president’s signature health legislation.

“Anyone who is on these plans knows it’s a two-tiered system,” said Ms. Moses, describing the emotional sting of those words to a successful entrepreneur.

The goal of the Affordable Care Act, which took effect in 2013, was to provide insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or under-insured Americans, through online state and federal marketplaces offering an array of policies.

Yet even as many beneficiaries acknowledge that they might not have insurance today without the law, there remains a strong undercurrent of discontent. Though their insurance cards look the same as everyone else’s — with names like Liberty and Freedom from insurers like Anthem or United Health — the plans are often very different from those provided to most Americans by their employers. Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.


We had a pretty good healthcare system relative to what?
 
Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/sunday-review/sorry-we-dont-take-obamacare.html?_r=0

may 14 2016 AMY MOSES and her circle of self-employed small-business owners were supporters of President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. They bought policies on the newly created New York State exchange. But when they called doctors and hospitals in Manhattan to schedule appointments, they were dismayed to be turned away again and again with a common refrain: “We don’t take Obamacare,” the umbrella epithet for the hundreds of plans offered through the president’s signature health legislation.

“Anyone who is on these plans knows it’s a two-tiered system,” said Ms. Moses, describing the emotional sting of those words to a successful entrepreneur.

The goal of the Affordable Care Act, which took effect in 2013, was to provide insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or under-insured Americans, through online state and federal marketplaces offering an array of policies.

Yet even as many beneficiaries acknowledge that they might not have insurance today without the law, there remains a strong undercurrent of discontent. Though their insurance cards look the same as everyone else’s — with names like Liberty and Freedom from insurers like Anthem or United Health — the plans are often very different from those provided to most Americans by their employers. Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.


We had a pretty good healthcare system relative to what?
Relative to witch doctors, bloodletting and lobotomies. But relative to the rest of the modern world, it was shit
 
Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/sunday-review/sorry-we-dont-take-obamacare.html?_r=0

may 14 2016 AMY MOSES and her circle of self-employed small-business owners were supporters of President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. They bought policies on the newly created New York State exchange. But when they called doctors and hospitals in Manhattan to schedule appointments, they were dismayed to be turned away again and again with a common refrain: “We don’t take Obamacare,” the umbrella epithet for the hundreds of plans offered through the president’s signature health legislation.

“Anyone who is on these plans knows it’s a two-tiered system,” said Ms. Moses, describing the emotional sting of those words to a successful entrepreneur.

The goal of the Affordable Care Act, which took effect in 2013, was to provide insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or under-insured Americans, through online state and federal marketplaces offering an array of policies.

Yet even as many beneficiaries acknowledge that they might not have insurance today without the law, there remains a strong undercurrent of discontent. Though their insurance cards look the same as everyone else’s — with names like Liberty and Freedom from insurers like Anthem or United Health — the plans are often very different from those provided to most Americans by their employers. Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.


We had a pretty good healthcare system relative to what?
Relative to witch doctors, bloodletting and lobotomies. But relative to the rest of the modern world, it was shit


Yup, before and after "Obamacare" which was hatched at the Heritage Foundation, the commie bastards!
 
Is the ACA perfect? Far from it. But, until people become more important than money, and we get a real health care system geared toward HEALTH CARE instead of the bottom dollar, this is what we get. Unless, of course, the GOP finally reveals that magical health care plan they swear actually exists.
 
Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/sunday-review/sorry-we-dont-take-obamacare.html?_r=0

may 14 2016 AMY MOSES and her circle of self-employed small-business owners were supporters of President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. They bought policies on the newly created New York State exchange. But when they called doctors and hospitals in Manhattan to schedule appointments, they were dismayed to be turned away again and again with a common refrain: “We don’t take Obamacare,” the umbrella epithet for the hundreds of plans offered through the president’s signature health legislation.

“Anyone who is on these plans knows it’s a two-tiered system,” said Ms. Moses, describing the emotional sting of those words to a successful entrepreneur.

The goal of the Affordable Care Act, which took effect in 2013, was to provide insurance to tens of millions of uninsured or under-insured Americans, through online state and federal marketplaces offering an array of policies.

Yet even as many beneficiaries acknowledge that they might not have insurance today without the law, there remains a strong undercurrent of discontent. Though their insurance cards look the same as everyone else’s — with names like Liberty and Freedom from insurers like Anthem or United Health — the plans are often very different from those provided to most Americans by their employers. Many say they feel as if they have become second-class patients.

If only those Republican run states, not mentioning names would just expand Medicaid, but they want the ACA to fail, since they didn't create it and make it come to light (although in a way they have talked about the same idea since 1990) They should be made to expand Medicaid, like it or not.
Did you read....since when is Manhattan in a repub state
 
Is the ACA perfect? Far from it. But, until people become more important than money, and we get a real health care system geared toward HEALTH CARE instead of the bottom dollar, this is what we get. Unless, of course, the GOP finally reveals that magical health care plan they swear actually exists.
Or maybe if ya enforced some laws in regard to price fixing.....
 
If only those Republican run states, not mentioning names would just expand Medicaid, .

Medicaid is a monstrous failure too. Govt can't do anything right.

We need to ban all health insurance. Health care would then cost 1/10th what it does now.
 
Is the ACA perfect? Far from it. But, until people become more important than money,

But that's impossible. People will always worship the almighty dollar and that applies to you libs too. If we go to a national health care system run entirely by the govt, the fraud will be a hundred times worse than it is now.
 
Even the super-liberal NYT is forced to admit that affirmative action baby Obozo has made a mess of what used to be a pretty good health care system.
We had a pretty good healthcare system relative to what?

To what we have now.. Obamacare is far far worse. THINK


I did, long and hard, came up with "horseshit". The needle didn't budge. This thing was hatched at the Heritage Foundation. That would have been bad enough in and of itself, but then they let the big pharma and health insurance industries at the table, so yeah, it stayed pretty much the same and common folk got fucked again.
 
Is the ACA perfect? Far from it. But, until people become more important than money,

But that's impossible. People will always worship the almighty dollar and that applies to you libs too. If we go to a national health care system run entirely by the govt, the fraud will be a hundred times worse than it is now.

Then let's all just say out loud we have a dog eat dog 3rd world shithole of a society with shinier toys. I'm good with that, let's just get open and honest about it.
 
If only those Republican run states, not mentioning names would just expand Medicaid, .

Medicaid is a monstrous failure too. Govt can't do anything right.

We need to ban all health insurance. Health care would then cost 1/10th what it does now.

Health insurance I agree. All health insurance companies are not needed anymore, just the ACA, and we will send our money into the gov. Think of the savings. These insurance companies are getting rich for paper pushing. All they do is transfer money. What a game hey.
 
If only those Republican run states, not mentioning names would just expand Medicaid, .

Medicaid is a monstrous failure too. Govt can't do anything right.

We need to ban all health insurance. Health care would then cost 1/10th what it does now.

Health insurance I agree. All health insurance companies are not needed anymore, just the ACA, and we will send our money into the gov. Think of the savings. These insurance companies are getting rich for paper pushing. All they do is transfer money. What a game hey.

And as we know, some nations/societies have figured this all out and have better health outcomes for much less cost. But this is a type of religious dogma here in the US.
 
Reforming health care would be rather easy if they thought about it. Tighten up those tort laws and reduce or eliminate medical malpractice claims. Make health insurance more like car insurance. Insurance doesn't buy tires or pay for smog checks. Health insurance should not pay for routine doctor visits. Allow insurance to be sold across state lines.
 

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