So We need the U.N?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by The Rabbi, Jun 6, 2010.

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Should the US leave the UN?

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  2. No- They are the only legitimate international body

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  3. I like mashed potatoes

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  1. The Rabbi
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    I am reading a book called Inside the Asylum about the U.N. He lays out the case that the UN is corrupt and ineffective. Aside from a few programs (eradicating malaria) the UN has utterly failed in its mission.
    Is it time for the U.S. to withdraw and make a new organization of democratic countries committed to individual rights?
     
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    Time for the U.S. to "make a new organization of democratic countries committed to individual rights?" Where to start...

    How about the U.S. needs to get its own house in order in the arena of individual rights? We have a lot of nanny laws on the books to get rid of first, mah friend.

    How about the arrogance that presumes the U.S. should "make" a nation of "democratic" countries? What's a "democratic" country? Who decides? You? Me?

    I don't recommend throwing the baby out with the bath water. In a shrinking global society, we need to start doing a better job of coexisting with our neighbors. An organization that restricts membership to only a select group of nations cannot legitimately be said to be a global organization.
     
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    Agree. There is room for improvement in the UN. But it is still an unprecidented forum for international discussion of critical issues.
     
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    Do you really want to compare U.S. laws with, say Libya? Are you actually making that comparison?
    And if you cannot tell the difference between a democratic country and a non free one, do you have any moral compass at all?
     
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    I agree, thats what makes it valuable.
     
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    The internet is an unprecedented forum for discussion. And it is not ruled over by petty dictators and thugs.
    What good has the UN accomplished in the last 20 years to justify its existence?
     
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    Provided a global forum in which to further diplomatic discussions in a more transparent way than discussions between only two countries does. Also a great PR and geopolitical messaging device to get a countries POV across to the globe.
     
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    Yeah like how evil Israel is, or how man made global warming is a crisis I think that is being done cheaper and more effectively on Captain planet and college campuses.
     
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    How are secret meetings "more transparent"? What good does "providing a global forum" do? The internet already does that. And countries have access to PR firms to get their message across. Look at the PLO. They have waged a very succesful PR campaign not using the UN at all.
    Somehow providing a forum that legitimizes thugocracies and kleptocrats doesn't seem like a good use of time and money to me. But feel free to differ.
     
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    Thanks, I will.
     

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