So Obama can "evolve" on issues; But Romney "flip flops"?? Just...wow.

2nd time I am asking luddite, so what? whats changed, exactly then? why all the hubbub?

Well, I kind of think there was collusion that Obama picks now to do this, and the WaPo runs a story that Little Willard liked to beat up the ghey kids. Hmmmm..

That said, I think what has changed is public opinion.

In 2004, 60% were against legalizing gay marriage. It's now down to 43% and declining. We as a nation are changing our mind, because we see the states where it has already happened and all the horrible things they said would happen haven't. God has not wiped us from the face of the Earth like Sodom and Gomorrah.

I agree. To most people, what others do with consenting adults just isn't all that important. If no one else is hurt, why should I care what my neighbors are doing?

I'm middle-aged but from what I read and hear, the youngsters are wondering what all the Sturm und Drang is about. Leave people alone, stop trying to control their private and personal lives.

If there is one thing I believe its that we're all just trying to make our way through this world, take care of our families, love one another and maybe even leave a positive mark. You can't do those things if you spend all your time trying to take freedoms away from your fellow American.

The Rs are wrong on this. And, worse, most of them say they are "Christian".

And yet......drum roll...no one is bothering them.
 
Watch as the term 'flip flop' now leaves the vocabulary of the mainstream media and their Leftist shills.


Soooooo predictable.

They are experts are changing the language to sell the same old crap. It's like spraying perfume on an Occupooper. It doesn't really change what it is.

So, Romney flip flops, but Obama evolves. What's Biden, the missing link?
 
Has anyone else noticed the liberals, Hollywood elite, media, etc, etc, are all in step with celebration of Obama's new flip flop on the gay marriage issuee, but they say the president "evolved", not "flip flopped"? Romney is accused of "flip flopping" on the issues. But Obama does a complete 180 degree change, and they say he "evolved"?????:cuckoo:

So....what the fuck? Is there just no shame in liberals? No limit to how far they'll sell their souls for this man? He announces, on the eve of a liberal hollywood elitist fundraiser, that he is NOW in favor of gay marriage. And they say he "evolved". Hypocrites.

Obama stated his belief years ago; and rather than the tired cliche "flip flopper", perhaps Romney CHANGES HIS MIND? Humans do that over the course of time.
 
Has anyone else noticed the liberals, Hollywood elite, media, etc, etc, are all in step with celebration of Obama's new flip flop on the gay marriage issuee, but they say the president "evolved", not "flip flopped"? Romney is accused of "flip flopping" on the issues. But Obama does a complete 180 degree change, and they say he "evolved"?????:cuckoo:

So....what the fuck? Is there just no shame in liberals? No limit to how far they'll sell their souls for this man? He announces, on the eve of a liberal hollywood elitist fundraiser, that he is NOW in favor of gay marriage. And they say he "evolved". Hypocrites.

There is a difference between evolving on one or two issues and flip-flopping on absolutely EVERYTHING.
 
Has anyone else noticed the liberals, Hollywood elite, media, etc, etc, are all in step with celebration of Obama's new flip flop on the gay marriage issuee, but they say the president "evolved", not "flip flopped"? Romney is accused of "flip flopping" on the issues. But Obama does a complete 180 degree change, and they say he "evolved"?????:cuckoo:

So....what the fuck? Is there just no shame in liberals? No limit to how far they'll sell their souls for this man? He announces, on the eve of a liberal hollywood elitist fundraiser, that he is NOW in favor of gay marriage. And they say he "evolved". Hypocrites.

Obama stated his belief years ago; and rather than the tired cliche "flip flopper", perhaps Romney CHANGES HIS MIND? Humans do that over the course of time.

hello earth to peach, he 'evolved' , his admin. used THAT phrase..... we can talk about the years he could have done a lot more and said what he just said, can we not? oh, no, I guess we can't....jesus, think for yourself.
 
Has anyone else noticed the liberals, Hollywood elite, media, etc, etc, are all in step with celebration of Obama's new flip flop on the gay marriage issuee, but they say the president "evolved", not "flip flopped"? Romney is accused of "flip flopping" on the issues. But Obama does a complete 180 degree change, and they say he "evolved"?????:cuckoo:

So....what the fuck? Is there just no shame in liberals? No limit to how far they'll sell their souls for this man? He announces, on the eve of a liberal hollywood elitist fundraiser, that he is NOW in favor of gay marriage. And they say he "evolved". Hypocrites.

actually, all that happened is that he let his words match his actions.

you rightwingnuts really are desperate. it's so funny.

The fact that you must mention this as a credit to Him says alot about Him.
 
Right wingers, relax. It was NOT a flip flop. IT was an evolution. Or, as Jillian said above, it was nothing more than he was making his words match his actions. Thats all. Words matching actions.

Since when has Obama started doing that?

Protested war, but bombed 3 countries more than Bush in just 3.5 years.
Damned Gitmo to closure, but kept it open.
Condemned drone attacks, but then uses them.
Preached anti-gun language, but expands gun rights.
Sat in a racist radical church for 20 years.......but didn't listen.

Yep. His words NEVER match his actions. Til now I guess.

Call it the Evolution of Obama. Hell, make a movie of it.
 
Yes, civil union to full marriage. Meaning......NOT a gay marriage, to IS a gay marriage.

He flip flopped.

NOW, Im to the right, but I actually am OK with allowing gay marriage. AND...I'm ok with a politician changing a stance. After all they are REPRESENTATIVES. They REPRESENT the views of who they govern. So, if their voting population takes a sudden change in opinion on a topic, their rep should reflect that accordingly.

Thus, I have NO PROBLEM with the fact that Obama changed his stance. He represents 300M people. If he thinks 151M of them want gay marriage to be allowed, his job is to REPRESENT that view, like any politician.

My problem is the media and hypocrisy of how they are covering it. One guy "evolves", the other "flip flops".

Yes, as a Christian, I believe homosexuality is a sin. BUT, I also believe in live and let live mostly, within some basic laws. So I believe we should be free to sin if we wish. Allow gay marriage. It isn't gonna make me sin in that way. We allow overeating too, and that is a sin. We allow, even promote, lust, and that is a sin. Making it legal to sin doesn't mean we have to do it.

I'm fine with gay marriage, and with Obama changing his stance on it. Just be consistent in credit/critique with it.
 
Has anyone else noticed the liberals, Hollywood elite, media, etc, etc, are all in step with celebration of Obama's new flip flop on the gay marriage issuee, but they say the president "evolved", not "flip flopped"? Romney is accused of "flip flopping" on the issues. But Obama does a complete 180 degree change, and they say he "evolved"?????:cuckoo:

So....what the fuck? Is there just no shame in liberals? No limit to how far they'll sell their souls for this man? He announces, on the eve of a liberal hollywood elitist fundraiser, that he is NOW in favor of gay marriage. And they say he "evolved". Hypocrites.
Were you expecting the leftist media to get up off their knees, wipe their chins and point out the fact that Obama is just another politician? After years of building up this nothing into the President because he's got a little more melanin than most and can read from a teleprompter fairly well? Dare they let slip the fact that this useless man has less leadership experience than that guy running the convenience store on the corner?

Hell, this guy is not even that good a politician. If it weren't for white guilt, black racism and the idiot who told McCain to nominate Sarah Palin, Obama would still be carrying around Dick Durbin's jock in the Senate.
 
Has anyone else noticed the liberals, Hollywood elite, media, etc, etc, are all in step with celebration of Obama's new flip flop on the gay marriage issuee, but they say the president "evolved", not "flip flopped"? Romney is accused of "flip flopping" on the issues. But Obama does a complete 180 degree change, and they say he "evolved"?????:cuckoo:

So....what the fuck? Is there just no shame in liberals? No limit to how far they'll sell their souls for this man? He announces, on the eve of a liberal hollywood elitist fundraiser, that he is NOW in favor of gay marriage. And they say he "evolved". Hypocrites.

I think the major difference is, Obama has been on the right side of every other issue when it comes to fairness and equality for gays, so yeah, they are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. Because it is a difficult issue.

Romney's flip flops are usually the result of naked political oppurtunism. It's not that you see soul-searching on a difficult issue, you see, "how is that one poll testing?" Even his own advisors compare his views to an Etch-a-sketch, what else aer we to think.

Hypocrite much?
 
you got to feel sorry for Obama's daughters, they must be so embarrassed to be seen in public knowing others will look at them and mentally say,,,those poor girls, their daddy is part homo and doesnt mind men marrying men, so long as they contribute to his re-election campaign.
 

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