So "Mary Poppins" is Racist.

That isnt really what the article is saying. I havent read the books or seen the films so I cant comment on the content, But the writer does raise interesting points.
People can interpret thing in all ways because of the times we live in. So when I watch a commercial and hear white boy this and white boy that I know there is no animosity and hate. And the rap songs, oh the rap songs. And the one way comedy. And movies and TV programs with the same spiel. We have to many people with social justice degrees milking the system with easy lives while promoting racial conflict. Perhaps degrees in real jobs that are needed would improve things for us all. This is not removing obvious racial wrongs, this is removing the identity of the white race. And when it is replaced, you won't like the results.
The article highlights the racist roots in the original book. You could argue that it was "of the time" when society itself was backward and unjust .I have some sympathy with that. The UK still had its colonies and the US still treated blacks as non citizens.
The literature of the time reflected this.I dont see any great artistic issues with removing racial slurs from kids books like Mary Poppins. But I would have a problem when it comes to great works of art like Huck Finn.
This is not a war on white people.Read the article.
There is a war on white people. From every angle accomplishments are being erased slowly. History should be a teacher also. Little things like a few years ago the U of Pa. literature school replaced an artifact/photo of Shakespeare with an African American woman. This is silly.
Why is it silly ? Shakespeare doesnt give a fuck, his plays are still performed.
Because you are shooting for excellence in the best of everything. Not being very good based on social justice. No back and forth on this. The world is about competition for the best of people especially. It doesn't mean you will get rich. We live in the same nation and Asia is slowly catching up to us and will surpass us within a couple of decades in excellence. Holding back the potential of our best people is suicide.
How is removing a picture of Shakespeare holding back your best people ?
 
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I couldn't read the article because of the paywall, but was the maid and the Hottentot reference the only "racist" thing in Mary Poppins? Sure, Disney pulled that quote when it did the movie, and it didn't hurt a thing. No movie follows the text exactly, and her comment didn't extend the narrative in any way. It was just a quip.

It wasn't. And in fact, the books have been rewritten by the Author herself to expunge the more questionable stuff.

I don't agree with changing older literature to reflect modern mores. It was written when it was written and usually it reflects the times in which it was written. I still don't see the problem with Little Black Sambo, which I really liked as a little kid because it ended in pancakes with lots of butter, which was one of my favorites. And Sambo didn't get et, either.

Reading Little Black Sambo didn't make me racist--the fact that Sambo was black didn't send any messages to me except that it was a far away country that had tigers. The kid was black. SO WHAT?

Except Tigers don't live in Africa, so there's that.

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And Sambo was used as a racial slur for decades.
I didn't know about the racial slur part; that makes a difference. And I was probably 4. Geography wasn't a big item back then.
 
That isnt really what the article is saying. I havent read the books or seen the films so I cant comment on the content, But the writer does raise interesting points.
People can interpret thing in all ways because of the times we live in. So when I watch a commercial and hear white boy this and white boy that I know there is no animosity and hate. And the rap songs, oh the rap songs. And the one way comedy. And movies and TV programs with the same spiel. We have to many people with social justice degrees milking the system with easy lives while promoting racial conflict. Perhaps degrees in real jobs that are needed would improve things for us all. This is not removing obvious racial wrongs, this is removing the identity of the white race. And when it is replaced, you won't like the results.
Is this song racist?

 
And Sambo was used as a racial slur for decades.
I didn't know about the racial slur part; that makes a difference. And I was probably 4. Geography wasn't a big item back then.
'Sambo' is not a racial slur.

Good Lord, the artist was a liberal at that time and opposed racial segregation, and she was doing a satirical piece mocking racist rhetoric.

She was not advancinig racism, but opposing.,

These are the same kind of idiots that object to Huckleberry Finn.
 
That isnt really what the article is saying. I havent read the books or seen the films so I cant comment on the content, But the writer does raise interesting points.
People can interpret thing in all ways because of the times we live in. So when I watch a commercial and hear white boy this and white boy that I know there is no animosity and hate. And the rap songs, oh the rap songs. And the one way comedy. And movies and TV programs with the same spiel. We have to many people with social justice degrees milking the system with easy lives while promoting racial conflict. Perhaps degrees in real jobs that are needed would improve things for us all. This is not removing obvious racial wrongs, this is removing the identity of the white race. And when it is replaced, you won't like the results.
Is this song racist?


No but this one might lean that way.......

 
That isnt really what the article is saying. I havent read the books or seen the films so I cant comment on the content, But the writer does raise interesting points.
People can interpret thing in all ways because of the times we live in. So when I watch a commercial and hear white boy this and white boy that I know there is no animosity and hate. And the rap songs, oh the rap songs. And the one way comedy. And movies and TV programs with the same spiel. We have to many people with social justice degrees milking the system with easy lives while promoting racial conflict. Perhaps degrees in real jobs that are needed would improve things for us all. This is not removing obvious racial wrongs, this is removing the identity of the white race. And when it is replaced, you won't like the results.
Is this song racist?


No but this one might lean that way.......


Coe decided to go for the racist demograpic it seems like, but what did he say that my song does not?
 
I couldn't read the article because of the paywall, but was the maid and the Hottentot reference the only "racist" thing in Mary Poppins? Sure, Disney pulled that quote when it did the movie, and it didn't hurt a thing. No movie follows the text exactly, and her comment didn't extend the narrative in any way. It was just a quip.

I don't agree with changing older literature to reflect modern mores. It was written when it was written and usually it reflects the times in which it was written. I still don't see the problem with Little Black Sambo, which I really liked as a little kid because it ended in pancakes with lots of butter, which was one of my favorites. And Sambo didn't get et, either.

Reading Little Black Sambo didn't make me racist--the fact that Sambo was black didn't send any messages to me except that it was a far away country that had tigers. The kid was black. SO WHAT?
Our history is our history. Covering up today things that happened in the past accomplishes what? Doesn’t change what happened, but it does change our history to ensuing generations which is wrong and unnecessary. Using this Mary Poppins example, until now there’s been no black face flap by millions of people who’ve enjoyed it over the decades, yet today no one would make a movie featuring any black face scenes. It’s come about without banning or eliminating MP scenes as well as countless others from old movies, plays, literature, etc.
 
I couldn't read the article because of the paywall, but was the maid and the Hottentot reference the only "racist" thing in Mary Poppins? Sure, Disney pulled that quote when it did the movie, and it didn't hurt a thing. No movie follows the text exactly, and her comment didn't extend the narrative in any way. It was just a quip.

It wasn't. And in fact, the books have been rewritten by the Author herself to expunge the more questionable stuff.

I don't agree with changing older literature to reflect modern mores. It was written when it was written and usually it reflects the times in which it was written. I still don't see the problem with Little Black Sambo, which I really liked as a little kid because it ended in pancakes with lots of butter, which was one of my favorites. And Sambo didn't get et, either.

Reading Little Black Sambo didn't make me racist--the fact that Sambo was black didn't send any messages to me except that it was a far away country that had tigers. The kid was black. SO WHAT?

Except Tigers don't live in Africa, so there's that.

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And Sambo was used as a racial slur for decades.
This is what my copy looked like. I wasn't born in the 1930's.
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I couldn't read the article because of the paywall, but was the maid and the Hottentot reference the only "racist" thing in Mary Poppins? Sure, Disney pulled that quote when it did the movie, and it didn't hurt a thing. No movie follows the text exactly, and her comment didn't extend the narrative in any way. It was just a quip.

It wasn't. And in fact, the books have been rewritten by the Author herself to expunge the more questionable stuff.

I don't agree with changing older literature to reflect modern mores. It was written when it was written and usually it reflects the times in which it was written. I still don't see the problem with Little Black Sambo, which I really liked as a little kid because it ended in pancakes with lots of butter, which was one of my favorites. And Sambo didn't get et, either.

Reading Little Black Sambo didn't make me racist--the fact that Sambo was black didn't send any messages to me except that it was a far away country that had tigers. The kid was black. SO WHAT?

Except Tigers don't live in Africa, so there's that.

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And Sambo was used as a racial slur for decades.
This is what my copy looked like. I wasn't born in the 1930's.

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My dad wasn't either. He was born in the twenties and is still driving around yelling at people who can't drive !
 
I couldn't read the article because of the paywall, but was the maid and the Hottentot reference the only "racist" thing in Mary Poppins? Sure, Disney pulled that quote when it did the movie, and it didn't hurt a thing. No movie follows the text exactly, and her comment didn't extend the narrative in any way. It was just a quip.

I don't agree with changing older literature to reflect modern mores. It was written when it was written and usually it reflects the times in which it was written. I still don't see the problem with Little Black Sambo, which I really liked as a little kid because it ended in pancakes with lots of butter, which was one of my favorites. And Sambo didn't get et, either.

Reading Little Black Sambo didn't make me racist--the fact that Sambo was black didn't send any messages to me except that it was a far away country that had tigers. The kid was black. SO WHAT?
Our history is our history. Covering up today things that happened in the past accomplishes what? Doesn’t change what happened, but it does change our history to ensuing generations which is wrong and unnecessary. Using this Mary Poppins example, until now there’s been no black face flap by millions of people who’ve enjoyed it over the decades, yet today no one would make a movie featuring any black face scenes. It’s come about without banning or eliminating MP scenes as well as countless others from old movies, plays, literature, etc.
Now that I've seen the article, I agree with Lone Laugher that the article isn't vilifying the book, but it does make some interesting points about black face and the racism of the time. I don't know who "enjoyed" black face--it was before my time and I sure see nothing good about it from my perspective, but I agree with you that it was what it was and it needs to sit there like a big black thumb in the anals of popular entertainment.
 
That isnt really what the article is saying. I havent read the books or seen the films so I cant comment on the content, But the writer does raise interesting points.
People can interpret thing in all ways because of the times we live in. So when I watch a commercial and hear white boy this and white boy that I know there is no animosity and hate. And the rap songs, oh the rap songs. And the one way comedy. And movies and TV programs with the same spiel. We have to many people with social justice degrees milking the system with easy lives while promoting racial conflict. Perhaps degrees in real jobs that are needed would improve things for us all. This is not removing obvious racial wrongs, this is removing the identity of the white race. And when it is replaced, you won't like the results.
Is this song racist?


No but this one might lean that way.......


Good lord. Is he being satirical or are those his heartfelt beliefs ?
 
That isnt really what the article is saying. I havent read the books or seen the films so I cant comment on the content, But the writer does raise interesting points.
People can interpret thing in all ways because of the times we live in. So when I watch a commercial and hear white boy this and white boy that I know there is no animosity and hate. And the rap songs, oh the rap songs. And the one way comedy. And movies and TV programs with the same spiel. We have to many people with social justice degrees milking the system with easy lives while promoting racial conflict. Perhaps degrees in real jobs that are needed would improve things for us all. This is not removing obvious racial wrongs, this is removing the identity of the white race. And when it is replaced, you won't like the results.
Is this song racist?


No but this one might lean that way.......


Good lord. Is he being satirical or are those his heartfelt beliefs ?

That's the fastest pull down I've seen in awhile. No, I don't want to know what I missed either. I laughed at the idea of a 100 year old man driving around yelling at bad drivers, but it was more than that, wasn't it?
 

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