should we abandon the catholic religion?

The Pope is a socialist, coming out of the Latin American "Liberation Theology" school of thought. Given the extremes in wealth and poverty that South American capitalism has brought about, it is not surprising that a cleric in that part of the world would embrace socialism - even though recent world history clearly indicates what a horror socialism is to all organized religion, including especially Christianity.

Furthermore, he typically buys into the Left-wing narrative on other subjects like "climate change," and environmental extremism. Like U.S. Federal judges, Bishops are appointed for life and gradually (or quickly) lose touch with social and economic realities, so naivete is the rule, not the exception.

He has been good at saying things that sound pleasing to the left, while not explicitly repudiating the Catholic moral beliefs that the Left wing abhors - mainly in connection with homosexual sodomy.

Unfortunately, we Catholics have NO SAY in how much of our donations go to the Vatican, but it is a relative pittance in any event. Stopping donations to one's parish over a problem with il Papa is a good way to save $10/wk, but it is illogical and stupid.

jesus was a socialist.

he said an awful lot about feeding the poor and how hard it would be fcr a rich man to get into heaven. but guess what, he didn't say a single word about gays.

now go tell us how christlike you are.

FYI:

Caring about the poor and/or having disdain for the rich doesn't make one a socialist, socialism didn't exist during the period that Jesus was supposedly alive nor is there any documentation where Jesus advocates public ownership of the means of production or central economic planning so your assertion is demonstrably false.
We're simply going off of what republicans believe constitutes a socialist.

just a thought, Instead of parroting the ignorance of others you might want to try thinking for yourself or at least doing some homework on the subject matter at hand. :eusa_whistle:

funny coming from a rightwingnut parrot.

Ah yes.... wherein it demonstrates that it thinks that name calling is a substitute for reason and evidence, congratulations you've managed to live down to my expectations.
 
This pope is called the people's pope by the left. this is a strange term that the left wing communist media is using to describe this pope. They didn't care about previous popes and many lefty communist deride Christian as crazy zealots but this pope is welcomed by all. Why? It is because this pope is a communist just like nbc and a whole bunch of other people in this country (I'm talking about you Obama). This people's pope gets an invite to speak at congress. Natenyau...nope. He was scorned! Are the left bitching about separation of church and state? Nope! This pope is a communist and I wonder if Catholics should just stop donating money to the Vatican until this man is removed.


We should abandon atheism…it is dangerous and has been responsible for the murder of close to 100 million people in the modern age…..
AHAHAHAHAHAHA. You're kidding, right? Is Christianity responsible for every death caused in the crusades? Is Christianity responsible for Christian psychopaths killing others? Of course not, there are good people and evil people with or without religion, grow up.

the pope is responsible or everything he does and says
 
The Pope is a socialist, coming out of the Latin American "Liberation Theology" school of thought. Given the extremes in wealth and poverty that South American capitalism has brought about, it is not surprising that a cleric in that part of the world would embrace socialism - even though recent world history clearly indicates what a horror socialism is to all organized religion, including especially Christianity.

Furthermore, he typically buys into the Left-wing narrative on other subjects like "climate change," and environmental extremism. Like U.S. Federal judges, Bishops are appointed for life and gradually (or quickly) lose touch with social and economic realities, so naivete is the rule, not the exception.

He has been good at saying things that sound pleasing to the left, while not explicitly repudiating the Catholic moral beliefs that the Left wing abhors - mainly in connection with homosexual sodomy.

Unfortunately, we Catholics have NO SAY in how much of our donations go to the Vatican, but it is a relative pittance in any event. Stopping donations to one's parish over a problem with il Papa is a good way to save $10/wk, but it is illogical and stupid.

jesus was a socialist.

he said an awful lot about feeding the poor and how hard it would be fcr a rich man to get into heaven. but guess what, he didn't say a single word about gays.

now go tell us how christlike you are.

FYI:

Caring about the poor and/or having disdain for the rich doesn't make one a socialist, socialism didn't exist during the period that Jesus was supposedly alive nor is there any documentation where Jesus advocates public ownership of the means of production or central economic planning so your assertion is demonstrably false.
We're simply going off of what republicans believe constitutes a socialist.

just a thought, Instead of parroting the ignorance of others you might want to try thinking for yourself or at least doing some homework on the subject matter at hand. :eusa_whistle:
Can't have fun with the pubbies? Darn.
 
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Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
 
This pope is called the people's pope by the left. this is a strange term that the left wing communist media is using to describe this pope. They didn't care about previous popes and many lefty communist deride Christian as crazy zealots but this pope is welcomed by all. Why? It is because this pope is a communist just like nbc and a whole bunch of other people in this country (I'm talking about you Obama). This people's pope gets an invite to speak at congress. Natenyau...nope. He was scorned! Are the left bitching about separation of church and state? Nope! This pope is a communist and I wonder if Catholics should just stop donating money to the Vatican until this man is removed.

Just out of morbid curiosity, what makes you believe that Pope Francis is a communist?
Judging from the sentence structure, my guess would be alcohol
 

Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.
 
This pope is called the people's pope by the left. this is a strange term that the left wing communist media is using to describe this pope. They didn't care about previous popes and many lefty communist deride Christian as crazy zealots but this pope is welcomed by all. Why? It is because this pope is a communist just like nbc and a whole bunch of other people in this country (I'm talking about you Obama). This people's pope gets an invite to speak at congress. Natenyau...nope. He was scorned! Are the left bitching about separation of church and state? Nope! This pope is a communist and I wonder if Catholics should just stop donating money to the Vatican until this man is removed.

Just out of morbid curiosity, what makes you believe that Pope Francis is a communist?
Judging from the sentence structure, my guess would be alcohol
Maybe so...are there any writing samples written while sober for us to compare? Sentence structure, like infrastructure, is sometimes misleading.
 
For what it's worth, Pope Francis is criticized by the left for not doing more to oppose the Junta's execution of kids in Argentina's dirty war.
The left is fickle that way. They don't his stand on abortion either.
 

Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.
 
For what it's worth, Pope Francis is criticized by the left for not doing more to oppose the Junta's execution of kids in Argentina's dirty war.
The left is fickle that way. They don't his stand on abortion either.
I don't think that's really the case. The vast majority of America doesn't like abortion. But, most of us are unwilling to say it should never be available in any instance. Pope Francis just said that if a woman regrets it, she should be forgiven. I'd guess most women who had abortions regretted it, but they probably accept it was the best option available at the time. He's just a human being. I don't think he'll have much luck in reforming the hierarchy in Rome.
 
For what it's worth, Pope Francis is criticized by the left for not doing more to oppose the Junta's execution of kids in Argentina's dirty war.
The left is fickle that way. They don't his stand on abortion either.
I don't think that's really the case. The vast majority of America doesn't like abortion. But, most of us are unwilling to say it should never be available in any instance. Pope Francis just said that if a woman regrets it, she should be forgiven. I'd guess most women who had abortions regretted it, but they probably accept it was the best option available at the time. He's just a human being. I don't think he'll have much luck in reforming the hierarchy in Rome.
It is not his job to reform the hierarchy in Rome. Part of his job is, however, to forgive sins. Jesus gave Peter the power to forgive sins, Francis has Peter's job now.
 
For what it's worth, Pope Francis is criticized by the left for not doing more to oppose the Junta's execution of kids in Argentina's dirty war.
The left is fickle that way. They don't his stand on abortion either.
I don't think that's really the case. The vast majority of America doesn't like abortion. But, most of us are unwilling to say it should never be available in any instance. Pope Francis just said that if a woman regrets it, she should be forgiven. I'd guess most women who had abortions regretted it, but they probably accept it was the best option available at the time. He's just a human being. I don't think he'll have much luck in reforming the hierarchy in Rome.
It is not his job to reform the hierarchy in Rome. Part of his job is, however, to forgive sins. Jesus gave Peter the power to forgive sins, Francis has Peter's job now.
Well, I think he thinks his job is to change the heart of the hierarchy. He's trying, but much will depend on who gets the job next. He seems to have the forgivness thing down pretty well. LOL
 

Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.

Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.
Of course he is responsible or the opinions he states. That doesn't mean when something goes wrong he is to blame.

You sure prove one thing to be true. Any idiot with a filthy mouth who keeps talking reveals who he or she is.
 
For what it's worth, Pope Francis is criticized by the left for not doing more to oppose the Junta's execution of kids in Argentina's dirty war.
The left is fickle that way. They don't his stand on abortion either.
I don't think that's really the case. The vast majority of America doesn't like abortion. But, most of us are unwilling to say it should never be available in any instance. Pope Francis just said that if a woman regrets it, she should be forgiven. I'd guess most women who had abortions regretted it, but they probably accept it was the best option available at the time. He's just a human being. I don't think he'll have much luck in reforming the hierarchy in Rome.
It is not his job to reform the hierarchy in Rome. Part of his job is, however, to forgive sins. Jesus gave Peter the power to forgive sins, Francis has Peter's job now.
Well, I think he thinks his job is to change the heart of the hierarchy. He's trying, but much will depend on who gets the job next. He seems to have the forgivness thing down pretty well. LOL
Interesting.
 

Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.

Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.
Of course he is responsible or the opinions he states. That doesn't mean when something goes wrong he is to blame.

You sure prove one thing to be true. Any idiot with a filthy mouth who keeps talking reveals who he or she is.

In fact he is to blame-----he knows that more than a BILLION people imagine
that HIS OPINION IS DIVINE-------- He should be very careful of what he says
and ACCEPT responsibility when things go haywire. So far----IMHO---he is not
doing all that well.
 

Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.

Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.
Of course he is responsible or the opinions he states. That doesn't mean when something goes wrong he is to blame.

You sure prove one thing to be true. Any idiot with a filthy mouth who keeps talking reveals who he or she is.

In fact he is to blame-----he knows that more than a BILLION people imagine
that HIS OPINION IS DIVINE-------- He should be very careful of what he says
and ACCEPT responsibility when things go haywire. So far----IMHO---he is not
doing all that well.
No. His opinion is not "divine". As the head of the Church, his opinion on moral matters is of great import to Catholics. That doesn't mean that his opinion is so strong that the whole WORLD stops to listen and obey! That ought to be pretty obvious if you are paying attention to what is happening in the world.
 
Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.
Pope Frences is not an ordinary person-----his words have impact. He is fully
responsible for any negative outcome of the nuclear deal with Iran. I have an
'impression' that terrorist actions by Pakistanis-----both freelance and government
sponsored were galvanized by the fact that Pakistan managed to make a nuclear
bomb. Iran sponsors terrorism-----by funding and by its agents in various countries. Its ability to carry out more terrorism well be enhanced by "the deal"---
Frances will be responsible for all of it-----should such terrorism occur, of course
(( it will ))
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.
Of course he is responsible or the opinions he states. That doesn't mean when something goes wrong he is to blame.

You sure prove one thing to be true. Any idiot with a filthy mouth who keeps talking reveals who he or she is.

In fact he is to blame-----he knows that more than a BILLION people imagine
that HIS OPINION IS DIVINE-------- He should be very careful of what he says
and ACCEPT responsibility when things go haywire. So far----IMHO---he is not
doing all that well.
No. His opinion is not "divine". As the head of the Church, his opinion on moral matters is of great import to Catholics. That doesn't mean that his opinion is so strong that the whole WORLD stops to listen and obey! That ought to be pretty obvious if you are paying attention to what is happening in the world.


I have been paying attention for more than 50 years -----conscious intelligent, mature attention--------that which the POPE says was very very important 50
ago------a bit less now-------but STILL IMPORTANT ENOUGH ---that my
statement the he must tread very lightly is important. I am old enough to remember when JOHN XXIII said---------"don't blame da joooos"---------it was like a TSUNAMMI hit my high school. The biggest wave hit the PROTESTANTS
 
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.
True, Pope Francis is not just an ordinary person, he is very well known. Nonetheless, the deal will go through or it won't, regardless of his opinion of it.

To suggest that future terrorism is Francis' fault is ridiculous.

He is FULLY responsible for that which HE says-----and the outcome of
HIS policies-------he should have kept his mouth shut. Of course ---the deal
will go thru anyway-------another reason he should have kept his filthy mouth
shut. The more he says-----the more he reveals himself the idiot he is
<<<< a personal opinion, of course.
Of course he is responsible or the opinions he states. That doesn't mean when something goes wrong he is to blame.

You sure prove one thing to be true. Any idiot with a filthy mouth who keeps talking reveals who he or she is.

In fact he is to blame-----he knows that more than a BILLION people imagine
that HIS OPINION IS DIVINE-------- He should be very careful of what he says
and ACCEPT responsibility when things go haywire. So far----IMHO---he is not
doing all that well.
No. His opinion is not "divine". As the head of the Church, his opinion on moral matters is of great import to Catholics. That doesn't mean that his opinion is so strong that the whole WORLD stops to listen and obey! That ought to be pretty obvious if you are paying attention to what is happening in the world.


I have been paying attention for more than 50 years -----conscious intelligent, mature attention--------that which the POPE says was very very important 50
ago------a bit less now-------but STILL IMPORTANT ENOUGH ---that my
statement the he must tread very lightly is important. I am old enough to remember when JOHN XXIII said---------"don't blame da joooos"---------it was like a TSUNAMMI hit my high school. The biggest wave hit the PROTESTANTS
All righty. Thank you for sharing that.
 

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