Should Occupy have to pay??

[Londoner]

but y'all seem to be fugittin' the difernce 'tween conservatives and liberals.

Conservatives (such as would be in the Tea Party Movement) have no problem with the idea of working for income and paying for what they use. They are simply asking for a reduction in the size of government, a subsequent reduction in the amount of tax revenues spent on government and government programs.

All reasonable, and well stated . . . but government has been crafted by Big Business into a subsidy and bailout machine. The Tea Party was invented to shift the focus from corporate welfare to social welfare. They were invented as a meltdown management mechanism, to stem the predictable tide of "Teddy Roosevelt populism" against the Great Malefactors who sliced up ponzi derivatives and sold them all over the globe . . . aka . . . the crime of the century. (The Tea Party is corporate America's attempt to control populist discourse, and direct rage away from them and toward their lowly servants in government)

The Tea Party has been conditioned to scream "socialism" any time a movement forms to address the influence of Big Money in Big Government. Wall Street owns both parties, yet they are completely insulated from democratic protest and review. They sank the economy through criminal risk mismanagement. They took risks they would never have been able to take had they not owned Government. The Tea Party should be working to rescue government and the market from the too-big-to fail risk-monsters who own government. (It's amazing and tragic that the Tea Party doesn't understand who funds elections, staffs government, and owns our political machinery)

Reforms should be placed on Wall Street's speculative casino. We should return to some of the postwar regulations that gave us financial stability for decades (until Reagan and the S&L's). Bush and Obama and all the Fed chiefs work for Government Sachs. The Tea Party was invented to divert attention away from the real owners of government. They were invented to go after anybody inside government who challenges their centralized power.

 

[Ravi]

Link?

And, the OWS is sponsored by unions and other front-organizations for the 'elite', too.

Do you have a point?

Try not to lie again, though.

I didn't lie. I see you're still smarting from yesterday's beat down. You really shouldn't let your emotions control you.

Ummm, yes you did lie. You said they refused to pay their bill.

They didn't.

You lied.

Now, where's that link?

They didn't pay the bill. And you are free to do your own research.

 

[Si modo]

I didn't lie. I see you're still smarting from yesterday's beat down. You really shouldn't let your emotions control you.

Ummm, yes you did lie. You said they refused to pay their bill.

They didn't.

You lied.

Now, where's that link?

They didn't pay the bill. And you are free to do your own research.

Yeah, Trump paid it for them.

Yet, you still lied.

So, the logical assumption is that you lied again. Until you support your earlier claim, that is.

 

[Jarhead]

I didn't lie. I see you're still smarting from yesterday's beat down. You really shouldn't let your emotions control you.

Ummm, yes you did lie. You said they refused to pay their bill.

They didn't.

You lied.

Now, where's that link?

They didn't pay the bill. And you are free to do your own research.

you said they REFUSED to pay the bill.

As I heard it, Trump OFFERED to pay the bill and they, of course, accepted his offer.

So yes, you lied. They NEVER refused to pay the bill.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Seems like you are ignoring some stuff in your response to me.

Either way, like I said, my official position is no one should have to pay fees/permiting for peaceful assemblies on public property. However, if you are going to charge one group to do it you must charge all....and that is the issue the unequal treatment under the law of the rallies like the teaparties and rallies like the OWS protests.

That's why I said I think both groups should pay for any costs they incur.

Why the since you agree with what I've been saying the whole time....both groups should be treated equally under the law?

You do agree right?

Now if you do agree with that do you also agree that, under the laws regarding permitting for protesting, the tea parties protests and the OWS protests are being held to different standards?

Link?

And, the OWS is sponsored by unions and other front-organizations for the 'elite', too.

Do you have a point?

Try not to lie again, though.

I didn't lie. I see you're still smarting from yesterday's beat down. You really shouldn't let your emotions control you.

Techinically the statement that the tea parties "refused to pay their bill" is a lie. They didn't refuse they said they needed more time to pay.

Ummm, yes you did lie. You said they refused to pay their bill.

They didn't.

You lied.

Now, where's that link?

They didn't pay the bill. And you are free to do your own research.

Yeah, Trump paid it for them.

Yet, you still lied.

So, the logical assumption is that you lied again. Until you support your earlier claim, that is.

1. so at this point Ravi, you do admit that the specific tea party group you are referring to did not REFUSE to pay (as you previously claimed) but asked for more time then had the bill paid by trump, correct?
   
2. Do you also agree with me that all protest groups/political groups should be treated equal by the law?
   
3. Do you also agree that the Tea Party Protests and the OWS protests are being treated differently under the law?

 

[Si modo]

That's why I said I think both groups should pay for any costs they incur.

Why the since you agree with what I've been saying the whole time....both groups should be treated equally under the law?

You do agree right?

Now if you do agree with that do you also agree that, under the laws regarding permitting for protesting, the tea parties protests and the OWS protests are being held to different standards?

They didn't pay the bill. And you are free to do your own research.

Yeah, Trump paid it for them.

Yet, you still lied.

So, the logical assumption is that you lied again. Until you support your earlier claim, that is.

1. so at this point Ravi, you do admit that the specific tea party group you are referring to did not REFUSE to pay but asked for more time then had the bill paid by trump, correct?
   
2. Do you also agree with me that all protest groups/political groups should be treated equal by the law?
   
3. Do you also agree that the Tea Party Protests and the OWS protests are being treated differently under the law?

Her admitting to that would require her to be honest.

So, have fun with that.

 

[Ravi]

That's why I said I think both groups should pay for any costs they incur.

Why the since you agree with what I've been saying the whole time....both groups should be treated equally under the law?

You do agree right?

Now if you do agree with that do you also agree that, under the laws regarding permitting for protesting, the tea parties protests and the OWS protests are being held to different standards?

They didn't pay the bill. And you are free to do your own research.

Yeah, Trump paid it for them.

Yet, you still lied.

So, the logical assumption is that you lied again. Until you support your earlier claim, that is.

1. so at this point Ravi, you do admit that the specific tea party group you are referring to did not REFUSE to pay (as you previously claimed) but asked for more time then had the bill paid by trump, correct?
   
2. Do you also agree with me that all protest groups/political groups should be treated equal by the law?
   
3. Do you also agree that the Tea Party Protests and the OWS protests are being treated differently under the law?

They didn't pay their bill. They also complained that the city of Boca Raton overcharged them.

The groups should pay for the costs they incur.

Some tea party groups didn't pay their bills. In the link I gave you before, it is very clear that taxpayers paid their costs.

So no, the treatment isn't as unequal as you pretend.

 

[Si modo]

Why the since you agree with what I've been saying the whole time....both groups should be treated equally under the law?

You do agree right?

Now if you do agree with that do you also agree that, under the laws regarding permitting for protesting, the tea parties protests and the OWS protests are being held to different standards?

Yeah, Trump paid it for them.

Yet, you still lied.

So, the logical assumption is that you lied again. Until you support your earlier claim, that is.

1. so at this point Ravi, you do admit that the specific tea party group you are referring to did not REFUSE to pay (as you previously claimed) but asked for more time then had the bill paid by trump, correct?
   
2. Do you also agree with me that all protest groups/political groups should be treated equal by the law?
   
3. Do you also agree that the Tea Party Protests and the OWS protests are being treated differently under the law?

They didn't pay their bill. They also complained that the city of Boca Raton overcharged them.

The groups should pay for the costs they incur.

Some tea party groups didn't pay their bills. In the link I gave you before, it is very clear that taxpayers paid their costs.

So no, the treatment isn't as unequal as you pretend.

Did MoveOn pay anything?

 

[Bigfoot]

I remember Nacy Pelosi trembling in fear and talking about how the Tea Party folks were so freakin scary that she was living in fear. I don't recall the violence, muggings and rapes that the Occupy Wall street crowd is committing and I'll be darned Nancy Pelosi and the rest of Obama's crew is standing with those idiots. The hypocrisy would be overwhelming if it wasn't so laughable! We have some of the same Left types around here.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Why the since you agree with what I've been saying the whole time....both groups should be treated equally under the law?

You do agree right?

Now if you do agree with that do you also agree that, under the laws regarding permitting for protesting, the tea parties protests and the OWS protests are being held to different standards?

Yeah, Trump paid it for them.

Yet, you still lied.

So, the logical assumption is that you lied again. Until you support your earlier claim, that is.

1. so at this point Ravi, you do admit that the specific tea party group you are referring to did not REFUSE to pay (as you previously claimed) but asked for more time then had the bill paid by trump, correct?
   
2. Do you also agree with me that all protest groups/political groups should be treated equal by the law?
   
3. Do you also agree that the Tea Party Protests and the OWS protests are being treated differently under the law?

They didn't pay their bill. They also complained that the city of Boca Raton overcharged them.

The groups should pay for the costs they incur.

Some tea party groups didn't pay their bills. In the link I gave you before, it is very clear that taxpayers paid their costs.

So no, the treatment isn't as unequal as you pretend.

1. So you admit you were wrong about the tea party group refusing to pay.
2. We agree that any group regardless of political leaning should pay for expenses that their rallys/protests/gatherings incure.
3. You disagree with me and you personally feel that, under the law, the tea party protests and OWS protests are treated the same

 

[Ravi]

1. so at this point Ravi, you do admit that the specific tea party group you are referring to did not REFUSE to pay (as you previously claimed) but asked for more time then had the bill paid by trump, correct?
   
2. Do you also agree with me that all protest groups/political groups should be treated equal by the law?
   
3. Do you also agree that the Tea Party Protests and the OWS protests are being treated differently under the law?

They didn't pay their bill. They also complained that the city of Boca Raton overcharged them.

The groups should pay for the costs they incur.

Some tea party groups didn't pay their bills. In the link I gave you before, it is very clear that taxpayers paid their costs.

So no, the treatment isn't as unequal as you pretend.

1. So you admit you were wrong about the tea party group refusing to pay.
2. We agree that any group regardless of political leaning should pay for expenses that their rallys/protests/gatherings incure.
3. You disagree with me and you personally feel that, under the law, the tea party protests and OWS protests are treated the same

No, they didn't pay. They said they need more time, that they were over charged, but in the end the refused to pay and Trump payed for them.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

They didn't pay their bill. They also complained that the city of Boca Raton overcharged them.

The groups should pay for the costs they incur.

Some tea party groups didn't pay their bills. In the link I gave you before, it is very clear that taxpayers paid their costs.

So no, the treatment isn't as unequal as you pretend.

1. So you admit you were wrong about the tea party group refusing to pay.
2. We agree that any group regardless of political leaning should pay for expenses that their rallys/protests/gatherings incure.
3. You disagree with me and you personally feel that, under the law, the tea party protests and OWS protests are treated the same

No, they didn't pay. They said they need more time, that they were over charged, but in the end the refused to pay and Trump payed for them.

Back at the beginning....they never refused to pay they asked for more time.

So you are being dishonest again on that one point.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Did the Tea Party pay for the tea they dumped in the Harbor?

Nope.

But the response of the British Government was to blockade Boston Harbor. So in a way, they did. Just not in cash.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What? That's pretty silly.

Yeah, it's not like they're grown ups.

Besides, how would that work with the OWS message of "Gimmee Gimmee Gimmee" that is the foundation of the Shitter Revolution.

These are leftists, they take by force, they don't trade value for value....

 

[Uncensored2008]

So what you are saying is that any Protest that is backed by big money donors like the Tea Party Koch Brothers have the right to free speech

Shouldn't bother the Soros backed Shitters...

BTW, claiming the Koch Brothers funded the thousands of Tea Parties across the nation is flat out fucking stupid.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I have a better idea... lets all have a protest on her front lawn and neighborhood.

That would infringe on the rights of others in her trailer park.

liesmatters will love and feed us. In return we can all shit and piss all over her house, camp out and trash the neighborhood, redistribute her wealth.. ie...steal her computer.

I suspect she lives with her mother and that the computer she uses belongs to mom..

 

[WillowTree]

Pay to protest in a democracy?


The right has NO commitment to the spirit the founders built this country on.

Because 'protesting' costs money. The TEA Parties paid. Are the OSW in some way special that they should not be paying? Why should the taxpayer foot the bill for their 'protest'. They have the right to protest... no right to do it for free.

They are the tax payer you fool

Yes, right, they've been marching for over 40 days, marching, not working, I'm doubting that they are paying taxes, but I'm not doubting that it's you is is the freaking fool..

 

[Uncensored2008]

this is proof of nothing

It's proof that you're as stupid as a doorknob, as if more was needed....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Ironically, the Tea Party, which once dared to claim the American revolutionaries as their inspiration,

have now become the Tories...

...loyal to the Crown.

Wow, that was amazingly stupid.

HOW much does the party pay you to post?

 

[Wicked Jester]

Occupy Wall Street Protesters Clean Zuccotti Park In Preparation For Evacuation

So, thanks for proving that the dirty, grubby, unbathed, liberal idiots didn't keep the place clean in the first place, ya' fuckin' dumbass!