Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings?

[LadyGunSlinger]

I think he's a progressive posing as a conservative.

They think this sort of stuff is funny.

Yep.. Wayyyy too obvious.

 

[bodecea]

No, they should not. Government should not be involved in marriage at all.

Easy to say....what have YOU actively done to get government out of marriage? Can we assume that you've NOT acquired a legal marriage license at any time?

 

[MaryL]

When the state seeks to impose its will upon the churches of the land, bloodshed is a heartbeat away.

No. In our country, the state does not have the authority to dictate what the church must *allow*.

So if churches should be allowed refuse to marry homosexuals couples, should they be allowed to refuse to marry mixed race couples if it goes against their doctrine?

Race isn't comparable to sexuality. It's a forced comparison, one I don't choose to make, but there it is. Broken minds and/or dysfunctional sexuality especially is not comparable to race. A handicap like homosexuality isn't the same as an able bodied healthy heterosexual and hence, needs no protection under the constitution as a class of people that is protected and has civil rights. Actually, homosexuals have the same rights as anyone, period. Not more, and not less. THE SAME. But it's not enough, that tells you something right there.

 

[RWHeathenGamer]

I think he's a progressive posing as a conservative.

They think this sort of stuff is funny.

Yep.. Wayyyy too obvious.

Hate to break it to you, you aren't conservative, neither is the Republican party. Just because you oppose the 2% tax hikes of the democrats and support wars for Israel in the middle east, doesn't make you a conservative.

 

[bodecea]

I think he's a progressive posing as a conservative.

They think this sort of stuff is funny.

He sounds like Brave Sir Warbler, whom you adore.

 

[RWHeathenGamer]

When the state seeks to impose its will upon the churches of the land, bloodshed is a heartbeat away.

No. In our country, the state does not have the authority to dictate what the church must *allow*.

So if churches should be allowed refuse to marry homosexuals couples, should they be allowed to refuse to marry mixed race couples if it goes against their doctrine?

Race isn't comparable to sexuality. It's a forced comparison, one I don't choose to make, but there it is. Broken minds and/or dysfunctional sexuality especially is not comparable to race. A handicap like homosexuality isn't the same as an able bodied healthy heterosexual and hence, needs no protection under the constitution as a class of people that is protected and has civil rights. Actually, homosexuals have the same rights as anyone, period. Not more, and not less. THE SAME. But it's not enough, that tells you something right there.

You didn't answer the question. Should Churches be allowed to refuse to marry mixed race couples?

You can't pick and chose. Either you support government dictating to Churches or you don't. There is no middle ground, there is only one conservative answer.

 

[Slyhunter]

So if churches should be allowed refuse to marry homosexuals couples, should they be allowed to refuse to marry mixed race couples if it goes against their doctrine?

Race isn't comparable to sexuality. It's a forced comparison, one I don't choose to make, but there it is. Broken minds and/or dysfunctional sexuality especially is not comparable to race. A handicap like homosexuality isn't the same as an able bodied healthy heterosexual and hence, needs no protection under the constitution as a class of people that is protected and has civil rights. Actually, homosexuals have the same rights as anyone, period. Not more, and not less. THE SAME. But it's not enough, that tells you something right there.

You didn't answer the question. Should Churches be allowed to refuse to marry mixed race couples?

You can't pick and chose. Either you support government dictating to Churches or you don't. There is no middle ground, there is only one conservative answer.

yes.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Legally, a church ceremony means nothing.

I have friends in Tucson who go to a gay church and what I've always wondered is why anyone would want to go to a church who does not want them?

The mythological "Jesus" would never have treated gays the way his so-called followers do so why go to a phony christian church?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

So if churches should be allowed refuse to marry homosexuals couples, should they be allowed to refuse to marry mixed race couples if it goes against their doctrine?

Race isn't comparable to sexuality. It's a forced comparison, one I don't choose to make, but there it is. Broken minds and/or dysfunctional sexuality especially is not comparable to race. A handicap like homosexuality isn't the same as an able bodied healthy heterosexual and hence, needs no protection under the constitution as a class of people that is protected and has civil rights. Actually, homosexuals have the same rights as anyone, period. Not more, and not less. THE SAME. But it's not enough, that tells you something right there.

You didn't answer the question. Should Churches be allowed to refuse to marry mixed race couples?

You can't pick and chose. Either you support government dictating to Churches or you don't. There is no middle ground, there is only one conservative answer.

"allowed"??

Are you in the United States?

 

[bodecea]

When the state seeks to impose its will upon the churches of the land, bloodshed is a heartbeat away.

No. In our country, the state does not have the authority to dictate what the church must *allow*.

So if churches should be allowed refuse to marry homosexuals couples, should they be allowed to refuse to marry mixed race couples if it goes against their doctrine?

Race isn't comparable to sexuality. It's a forced comparison, one I don't choose to make, but there it is. Broken minds and/or dysfunctional sexuality especially is not comparable to race. A handicap like homosexuality isn't the same as an able bodied healthy heterosexual and hence, needs no protection under the constitution as a class of people that is protected and has civil rights. Actually, homosexuals have the same rights as anyone, period. Not more, and not less. THE SAME. But it's not enough, that tells you something right there.

Churches are allowed to refuse to marry inter-racial couples, you know.


Oh....and one more thing....do you believe that civil rights should only be based on race?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I think he's a progressive posing as a conservative.

They think this sort of stuff is funny.

He sounds like Brave Sir Warbler, whom you adore.

If you're talking about the newest nutter, RWHeathenGamer, as long as he uses that avatar, no one can take him seriously. (Well, except for fellow nutters, like koshergurl.)

What if that pudgy little glob is really him?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

This will be moot point in a few years as more and more churches find God again and become tolerant.

Those churches will not be Christian. There are many false churches that will gladly marry queers, but not a true Christian church.

Actually, you mean just the opposite.

The fictional character, "Jesus" would not turn them away but fake christian churches would.

By the way, I notice that this thread started out asking if "churches should be forced" but now its changed to "allowed". Do the anti-Constitution RWs know the difference?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I think he's a progressive posing as a conservative.

They think this sort of stuff is funny.

Yep.. Wayyyy too obvious.

Hate to break it to you, you aren't conservative, neither is the Republican party. Just because you oppose the 2% tax hikes of the democrats and support wars for Israel in the middle east, doesn't make you a conservative.

Don't address me you scum.. and don't pretend like you know where I stand on any issue- Quite frankly at this point I don't care whether you're conservative or liberal.. you're a lowlife piece of trash.

 

[RWHeathenGamer]

This will be moot point in a few years as more and more churches find God again and become tolerant.

Those churches will not be Christian. There are many false churches that will gladly marry queers, but not a true Christian church.

The fictional character, "Jesus"

Equality is the only fiction here. Equality is a myth.

 

[candycorn]

If the authority empowered to "rent" out a church sign an agreement with a couple, they should honor the agreement regardless of their sexual orientation.

to be 'fair' and 'equal' i believe half your 'public talk' here should be left wing....and half right wing....

agreed...?

Where I have strong feelings; I'll be happy to pronounce the far left wrong as they are on voter registration, securing our borders, not wanting armed guards in schools, etc...

Where I have strong feelings; I'll be happy to pronounce the far right wrong as they are on abortion, Iraq, Syria, Lybia, the environment, the ACA, women's rights, immigration reform, public assistance, contraception, school vouchers, etc...

Where I have strong feelings; I'll be happy to pronounce both sides wrong as they are on campaign reform, the electoral college, NASA funding and development, the deficit, and allowing corporations to enjoy the same rights as people while getting greater rights as corporations.

Not sure what you're point is but that is where I come out.

 

[MaryL]

This thread is a indication of why Muslim extremist hate us. Don't mess with religion. Gays want this, and they want THAT, you can't force people to accept a broken dysfunctional sexuality that normal people find abhorrent. They kind of react opposite. No matter what mommy and daddy and the store-bought supreme court folks deem.

 

[koshergrl]

This will be moot point in a few years as more and more churches find God again and become tolerant.

Those churches will not be Christian. There are many false churches that will gladly marry queers, but not a true Christian church.

Actually, you mean just the opposite.

The fictional character, "Jesus" would not turn them away but fake christian churches would.

By the way, I notice that this thread started out asking if "churches should be forced" but now its changed to "allowed". Do the anti-Constitution RWs know the difference?

Jesus wouldn't turn them away from his person..but he might turn them away from the steps of the church, if he believed they were there for some other purpose than to glorify God. He wasn't very accommodating to people who exploited the church

 

[Freewill]

Should atheist groups be forced to hold religious services?

 

[Ibentoken]

I think Christians should be forced to marry queers and queers should be forced to attend the Westboro Baptist Church. Sounds fair.

 

[Kondor3]

The First Amendment forbids public law from forcing anything on religious institutions, just as it forbids religious institutions from imposing their will on the public.

So churches should have the right to discriminate against homosexuals?

How about against racial minorities as well?

The holy writings and teachings of various religions do not condemn the color of a man's skin.

The holy writings and teachings of various religions DO condemn homosexuality as unclean, impure, filthy, corrupt, perverse, abhorrent, and an aberration in the eyes of Nature, Man and God - a twisted and evil thing to be shunned.

You cannot force a religious institution to commit a sin.

Not even the worst socialist and communist countries do that.

They know that doing so would incite civil war.