SCOTUS to hear arguments on keeping Trump off 2024 ballot

[mudwhistle]

He doesn't have to be charged with

How hard is it to understand that Trump, or anyone else for that matter, does not have to be charged with insurrection for the exclusion clause of the 14th amendment to be triggered. What part of or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof do you not understand? What part of shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, do you not understand?

Not only does he have to be charged, but he has to be convicted. That is an undeniable fact.

BTW, who has given more aid and comfort to the enemy than Barack Obama and Joe Biden?

Both have given billions to Iran.

 

[BS Filter]

High-stakes case on whether 14th amendment prohibits Trump from holding office because of his actions on January 6, 2021.

The US supreme court will hear oral argument on Thursday in one of the most high-stakes cases in American politics this century, thrusting a beleaguered court to the center of the 2024 election.

The court is considering whether Donald Trump is eligible to run for president. The novel legal question at the heart of the case, Donald J Trump v Norma Anderson et al, is whether the 14th amendment to the constitution prohibits Trump from holding office because of his conduct on 6 January 2021. Section 3 of the amendment says that any member of Congress or officer of the United States who takes an oath to protect the constitution and then subsequently engages in insurrection cannot hold office. That ban, the amendment says, can only be overridden by a two-thirds vote of each house of Congress.

There is no precedent for the case. The 14th amendment, enacted after the civil war, has never been used to challenge the eligibility of a presidential candidate, but the idea began picking up steam after two conservative legal scholars published a 126-page law review article last summer arguing the amendment clearly disqualified Trump.

A group of Colorado voters sued under the law last year, relying on the theory to try to disqualify Trump from the ballot. After a five-day trial, a Colorado district court judge said Trump had committed insurrection, but was not disqualified because he was not an officer of the United States. The Colorado supreme court reversed that ruling in December, removing Trump from the ballot in a 4-3 decision. While lawsuits have been filed in dozens of other states seeking to remove Trump from the ballot, only Colorado and Maine have done so thus far.

The challengers and their supporters argue that protecting democracy requires banning those who attempt to subvert democracy from holding higher office. “Our democracy is not a chaotic free-for-all in which anyone can be elected. The voters are entitled to decide within the framework of the applicable rules,” the good government group Common Cause wrote in an amicus brief supporting the challengers.

“If Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment (“Section 3”) is not enforced in this case, there is a genuine risk that our system of government will not survive,” they wrote.

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US supreme court to hear arguments on keeping Trump off 2024 ballot​

The hearing is scheduled to begin at 9:00 am tomorrow morning (2-8-24). This is truly historical. I'm looking forward to it. What do you think?

Your little boy got spanked good today.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not only does he have to be charged, but he has to be convicted. That is an undeniable fact.

No, that's a lie you made up. And you could not support it with anything except for your obsession with the orange pile of shit.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Your little boy got spanked good today.

Clarence Thomas is the one who drove the nail in the coffin nice and hard...

Thomas - ''There were a plethora of Confederates still around. There were any number of people who would continue to either run for state offices or national offices. So it seemed it that would suggest that there would at least be a few examples of national candidates being disqualified''

''So what’s the purpose of Section 3?"... ''The states were sending people [to Congress] that the concern was that the former Confederate states would continue being bad actors and the effort was to prevent them from doing this, and you’re saying that, ‘Well, this also authorized states to disqualify candidates.’ So, what I’m asking you for, if you are right, what are the examples?''

"I understand the states controlling state elections and state positions... what we are talking about here are national candidates."

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Clarence Thomas is the one who drove the nail in the coffin nice and hard...

Thomas - ''There were a plethora of Confederates still around. There were any number of people who would continue to either run for state offices or national offices. So it seemed it that would suggest that they would at least be a few examples of national candidates being disqualified''

''So what’s the purpose of Section 3?"... ''The states were sending people [to Congress] that the concern was that the former Confederate states would continue being bad actors and the effort was to prevent them from doing this, and you’re saying that, ‘Well, this also authorized states to disqualify candidates.’ So, what I’m asking you for, if you are right, what are the examples?''

"I understand the states controlling state elections and state positions... what we are talking about here are national candidates."

He didn't get banned for being an insurrectionist!

He also didn't go to prison or shit his pants!

What a great day in Trumplandia!

 

[BS Filter]

Clarence Thomas is the one who drove the nail in the coffin nice and hard...

Thomas - ''There were a plethora of Confederates still around. There were any number of people who would continue to either run for state offices or national offices. So it seemed it that would suggest that they would at least be a few examples of national candidates being disqualified''

''So what’s the purpose of Section 3?"... ''The states were sending people [to Congress] that the concern was that the former Confederate states would continue being bad actors and the effort was to prevent them from doing this, and you’re saying that, ‘Well, this also authorized states to disqualify candidates.’ So, what I’m asking you for, if you are right, what are the examples?''

"I understand the states controlling state elections and state positions... what we are talking about here are national candidates."

Gorsuch and Alito more than once told the kid to stop twisting their words and answer their questions. Democrats humiliated.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Gorsuch and Alito more than once told the kid to stop twisting their words and answer their questions. Democrats humiliated.

The lawyer was representing a republican.

Damn you peole are ignorant.

 

[martybegan]

OK, let's run the calculus. Let's take the money I took from the government to support my kids, and let's minus the amount of taxes those same kids have paid to the federal government. Just back of the envelope, I figure you owe me about a quarter of a million dollars, and that is only going to increase going forward.

Like anything that was raised by a grifter like you could become a useful member of society.

 

[Winston]

Like anything that was raised by a grifter like you could become a useful member of society.

You are a fawking moron. The United States Air Force is looking for an engine for their next generation fighter jet. They go to MIT, ask them to do the lead research. And you know who heads up the team? My son.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Lakhota]

 

[martybegan]

You are a fawking moron. The United States Air Force is looking for an engine for their next generation fighter jet. They go to MIT, ask them to do the lead research. And you know who heads up the team? My son.

Bullshit. "Anonymous message board asshat claims bullshit"

 

[Lisa558]

OK, let's run the calculus. Let's take the money I took from the government to support my kids, and let's minus the amount of taxes those same kids have paid to the federal government. Just back of the envelope, I figure you owe me about a quarter of a million dollars, and that is only going to increase going forward.

So why couldn’t you work and raise productive citizens both? My father, may he RIP, was a college-educated professional who paid taxes his entire adult life AND raised children who became professionals as well, and also paid taxes?

Stop trying to rationalize that you took other people’s money to raise your kids and refused to get a job. It’s shameful.

 

[Winston]

So why couldn’t you work and raise productive citizens both? My father, may he RIP, was a college-educated professional who paid taxes his entire adult life AND raised children who became professionals as well, and also paid taxes?

Stop trying to rationalize that you took other people’s money to raise your kids and refused to get a job. It’s shameful.

What part of the Earned Income Tax Credit do you not understand? I did work a job, actually, I owned my own business. I must made sure that I maximized the EITC every single year.

Funny, a corporation uses every tax break possible, maximizes tax credits, and externalizes as many costs as they can. That is good business they say. But when I do it, maximizing my tax credits, externalizing all the cost that I could, well I am a deadbeat unemployed welfare queen.

You are a damn fool. Your utter obsession with how someone else chose to lead their life is borderline psychotic, and actually reveals a stunning sense of remorse about your own sad life.