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No, I'm suggesting that feel good gun control laws won't prevent maniacs from killing people. You want to punish innocent people for the crimes of others. There's also the fact that gun control won't prevent people from getting those guns for the same reason drug laws don't prevent people from getting drugs. All it will do is create a boon for the black market. Criminals will profit rather than legitimate businesses that employ people and pay taxes. Your solution doesn't fix the problem; it just makes other problems worse.
Your example actually works AGAINST you......Following your logic, marijuana and opiates SHOULD BE legalized so that there won't be a black market on such drugs.....
Gun manufacturers sought and got (paid for) laws to prevent them being sued.....there must have been a "reason" for such preventive insurance, don't you think?
No, I'm suggesting that feel good gun control laws won't prevent maniacs from killing people. You want to punish innocent people for the crimes of others. There's also the fact that gun control won't prevent people from getting those guns for the same reason drug laws don't prevent people from getting drugs. All it will do is create a boon for the black market. Criminals will profit rather than legitimate businesses that employ people and pay taxes. Your solution doesn't fix the problem; it just makes other problems worse.
Your example actually works AGAINST you......Following your logic, marijuana and opiates SHOULD BE legalized so that there won't be a black market on such drugs.....
Gun manufacturers sought and got (paid for) laws to prevent them being sued.....there must have been a "reason" for such preventive insurance, don't you think?
Cute.....want to compare FREE HEALTH CARE by Switzerland versus us???
Sometimes I wonder if they believe there are packs of feral guns that escaped their owners, are roaming the wilds, and are just lying in wait to attack.A gun is just a gun, it has no hypnotic powers.There is nothing in the product gun manufacturers make that causes addiction. Your argument is false.
Have you read 2AGuy's posts recently? He frankly makes a crack addict going through withdrawls look sedate when you suggest he can't have a gun.
Not to that dope.........thinks they walk around by day and night on seek and destroy missions!! These types just will never be able to connect the dots.
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Ah but it isn't the purpose that they (drinking and driving) be done TOGETHER.
The point is so simple that it defies logic.....The point IS that such lethal weapons should NEVER be sold to common citizens.
so adam would have got them from someone else....
The guy had no job, no money, and frankly, probably would have looked just seedy enough to make even most gun dealers look at him twice.
But I'd be all for suing whoever gave him a gun.
Of course, you right wingers and gun rights proponents are missing the point.....either purposefully or by stupidity. At Sandy Hook, first graders were not "just killed" but torn into pieces by a maniac with a gun intended to be used in military combat..Such guns should NOT be sold to common citizens. The only purpose to sell such guns are either to kill as many people in the shortest number of minutes....OR to satisfy the "machismo" of morons.i
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Ah but it isn't the purpose that they (drinking and driving) be done TOGETHER.
Nor is it the purpose that school and shooting be done together.
You of the anti-liberty left are out of control.
One of the problems is that many times good people who own guns become bad people when something sets them off. We see this happen frequently, and I'm not sure what the answer to preventing this is.
The anti-Constitutional stance of the left on clear display for all to see.Inevitably, gun proponents and the NRA will claim that the latest ruling allowing families of the Sandy Hook massacre of children, is a ridiculous ruling.....They will follow up with various scenarios that were someone to be killed by a knife or a rope, that knives and rope manufacturers could ALSO be sued....but when making such comparisons they show both their prejudices and downright stupidity.
Guns are manufactured virtually SOLELY for the purpose of killing....whereas knives or ropes have much different purposes and the flooding of some high-crime areas with weapons whose main purpose is killing of maiming is totally unacceptable.
This ruling is a small but necessary first step toward restoring sanity. The Sandy Hook massacre could not have been as lethal with knives or ropes. Let us join the rest of the sane, and progressive world community where those weapons (mostly made for military purposes) do NOT make their way into deranged and evil hands.
Anyone with a double digit IQ or the ability to think for themselves knows what this is about.
One of the problems is that many times good people who own guns become bad people when something sets them off. We see this happen frequently, and I'm not sure what the answer to preventing this is.
And a large number of families are killed by an abusive husband/father and/or PTSD soldier.
The anti-Constitutional stance of the left on clear display for all to see.Inevitably, gun proponents and the NRA will claim that the latest ruling allowing families of the Sandy Hook massacre of children, is a ridiculous ruling.....They will follow up with various scenarios that were someone to be killed by a knife or a rope, that knives and rope manufacturers could ALSO be sued....but when making such comparisons they show both their prejudices and downright stupidity.
Guns are manufactured virtually SOLELY for the purpose of killing....whereas knives or ropes have much different purposes and the flooding of some high-crime areas with weapons whose main purpose is killing of maiming is totally unacceptable.
This ruling is a small but necessary first step toward restoring sanity. The Sandy Hook massacre could not have been as lethal with knives or ropes. Let us join the rest of the sane, and progressive world community where those weapons (mostly made for military purposes) do NOT make their way into deranged and evil hands.
Anyone with a double digit IQ or the ability to think for themselves knows what this is about.
"The anti-Constitutional stance of the left on clear display for all to see."
Not true at all.
The only people who talk about banning are the gun nutters.
They are instructed to do that as a smoke screen to hide the real issues - which are being discussed in this thread.
The point is so simple that it defies logic.....The point IS that such lethal weapons should NEVER be sold to common citizens.
You are quite insane, and fully evil.
There is nothing in the product gun manufacturers make that causes addiction. Your argument is false.
Have you read 2AGuy's posts recently? He frankly makes a crack addict going through withdrawls look sedate when you suggest he can't have a gun.
So, this nutter is saying that killing the mother, stealing the keys, then stealing the guns, makes the mom responsible? Where does this stupid logic come from? Ray, how the hell can anyone deal with such a stupid premise?
Stop making excuses for stupid. Had she lived she likely would have been prosicuted and rightfully so. It's called acountability. You don't manage your guns, you are acountable.
Her guns were locked in a safe.
Her son got them so they weren't secure enough. That aside, the act was done, she is dead, he is dead, those children and teachers are dead. Won't wast breath saying the same stuff over and over. Especially since the thread was about Sandy Hook parents seeing gun makers, specifically Cerebus, Remington, Bushmaster.
Wrong....her kid was planning the attack for 2 years.....most of these killers plan their attacks 6 months to 2 years in advance, so even if his mother didn't have any guns in the home he would have gotten weapons...just like the 19 year old kid in Britain who ordered a Glock 19 over the Dark Web....in a country that is an island, confiscated guns and has extreme gun control laws.....any other gun would have killed as many people at Sandy Hook...it was a gun free zone...no one was armed to stop him.
Oh no, no, no. Don't you know that if guns are illegal, there will be no more murders. Lol.
Following your logic, marijuana and opiates SHOULD BE legalized so that there won't be a black market on such drugs.....
Then you would know an "ar" is not a military grade weapon? It's just a sporting rifle...Do you even know what an so called "assault rifle" is?? Dumbass
The "AR" in ar15 does not mean Assault rifle... Of course if your head was out of your ass you would know that…
No doubt, you get an erection when you "correct" people that AR does not mean "assault rifle".....(yeah, yeah, ArmaLite was the original manufacturer)......
Inevitably, gun proponents and the NRA will claim that the latest ruling allowing families of the Sandy Hook massacre of children, is a ridiculous ruling.....They will follow up with various scenarios that were someone to be killed by a knife or a rope, that knives and rope manufacturers could ALSO be sued....but when making such comparisons they show both their prejudices and downright stupidity.
Guns are manufactured virtually SOLELY for the purpose of killing....whereas knives or ropes have much different purposes and the flooding of some high-crime areas with weapons whose main purpose is killing of maiming is totally unacceptable.
This ruling is a small but necessary first step toward restoring sanity. The Sandy Hook massacre could not have been as lethal with knives or ropes. Let us join the rest of the sane, and progressive world community where those weapons (mostly made for military purposes) do NOT make their way into deranged and evil hands.