Romney needs to withdraw. open the convention.

After the 9-11 attacks, all commercial flights were grounding and fighter jets were scrambled and were prepared to shoot down commercial aircraft if found in the air, and not responding to military demands. Fortunately, things did not come to that. But if they had, would you have objected that it was unconstitutional?
Why would I? It wasn't unconstitutional.
so, killing citizens that have committed no crime, were never charged with a crime, can be killed by our gvt?
Why, yes. In circumstances where it is allowed - by the Constitution.
 
The Bain thing is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Obama spent $100's millions of stimulus money on green projects that were produced overseas.

romney should be 15 ahead right now. his problem is he has no natural base of support to defend him.

It's dem pesky primaries! If only Conservatives were plentiful enough to actually make a difference in who the GOP nominates! But, alas, there just ain't enough hard core, rock ribbed right wing nut jobs to steer that Republican ship over the shoals and into Maniac Harbor where such luminaries as Sarah Palin, Rick "Oops!" Perry, Herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann and Li'l Ricky Santorum wait eagerly on the dock ready to lead your Movement (and we all need a movement, every day!)
 
If this thing gets serious the Republican are going to have to pull out the big guns, communism, socialism and Obama's got big ears.

While those are all true, we are more focused on his record and the fact that the American people have been suffering because of this administration.
 
So what in the constitution covers killing innocent civilians who are riding in a commercial airplane?
National emergency AND under attack.

Where does the constitution say anything about that?

I suppose it could be this part...

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
 
So what in the constitution covers killing innocent civilians who are riding in a commercial airplane?
National emergency AND under attack.

Where does the constitution say anything about that?
"The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

The law says that, too..

And, it has never been challenged as unconstitutional.

So, what else would you like to compare?
 
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National emergency AND under attack.

Where does the constitution say anything about that?

I suppose it could be this part...

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I'd agree, that part definitely seems to be relevant. So, tell me, how does that part apply less to an American citizen actively engaged in terrorist activities against the US, yet more to innocent citizens who happen to be unfortunate enough to be on a hijacked plane?
 
Where does the constitution say anything about that?

I suppose it could be this part...

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I'd agree, that part definitely seems to be relevant. So, tell me, how does that part apply less to an American citizen actively engaged in terrorist activities against the US, yet more to innocent citizens who happen to be unfortunate enough to be on a hijacked plane?

Put your mouth back on Obama's ass where it belongs
 
An instance of emergency being compared to killing someone in a foreign country, posing no immediate threat just sounds so "democrat".
 
"The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

How does Habeus Corpus come into play in this?

The law says that, too..

And, it has never been challenged as unconstitutional.

The law says what, too?

So, what else would you like to compare?

Every other similar instance of the government willfully killing citizens without a jury trial to convict said citizens of a crime.
 
"The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

How does Habeus Corpus come into play in this?

The law says that, too..

And, it has never been challenged as unconstitutional.

The law says what, too?

So, what else would you like to compare?

Every other similar instance of the government willfully killing citizens without a jury trial to convict said citizens of a crime.

Why don't you fucking enlist.
 
Where does the constitution say anything about that?

I suppose it could be this part...

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I'd agree, that part definitely seems to be relevant. So, tell me, how does that part apply less to an American citizen actively engaged in terrorist activities against the US, yet more to innocent citizens who happen to be unfortunate enough to be on a hijacked plane?

If the American citizen is engaging in terrorist activities on American soil, then killing him would be constitutional. When he is riding in a jeep in Yemen, not so much.

And you're right, it is unfortunate for those folks on the plane, but the attack has to be stopped to prevent far more deaths on the ground. Sadly, the needs of the many do outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
 
"The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

How does Habeus Corpus come into play in this?

The law says that, too..

And, it has never been challenged as unconstitutional.

The law says what, too?

So, what else would you like to compare?

Every other similar instance of the government willfully killing citizens without a jury trial to convict said citizens of a crime.
Every American citizen has due process, even the President has due process or should we take his away also?
 
A guy has bank accounts in Switzerland and Investment vehicles in the Cayman Islands. He claims to have completely departed from a company in 1999 despite attending meetings, being paid as CEO and being listed as the only shareholder as late as 2002....

Oh sure, pointing this out will definitely hurt the Obama campaign. I mean lets face it, who doesn't park money in the Cayman Islands?
 

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