"Rights are special privileges the government gives you."

[Mac1958]

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Rights are natural.

A government can only take them away.

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so you were born with the right to vote, but the government took it away?

Huh?

It did?

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that's what you told me. rights are natural, and only governments can take them away.

so you must have been born with the right to vote, but for 18 years (possibly more, i don't know your age) the government took that right from you

Is there a point here?

Let me guess: That we are beholden to government for our rights?

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[ogibillm]

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Rights are natural.

A government can only take them away.

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so you were born with the right to vote, but the government took it away?

Huh?

It did?

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that's what you told me. rights are natural, and only governments can take them away.

so you must have been born with the right to vote, but for 18 years (possibly more, i don't know your age) the government took that right from you

Is there a point here?

Let me guess: That we are beholden to government for our rights?

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my point is that there is nothing wrong with what was written in the o.p.

 

[ogibillm]

does the op believe that illegal aliens should have the right to vote? run for office?

 

[Mr. President]

Your Government can acknowledge your rights they can not give them to you. Should your government not acknowledge your rights you have the right to revolution.

 

[pismoe]

right to SELF DEFENSE for one plus Free speech , Freedom of religion and these 3 [plus more] were recognized by the Founders as God Given and are supposed to be protected from infringement by USA government . I don't think that voting is even an inalienable right in the USA .

 

[konradv]

The people who think same sex marriage should be allowed only on a state-by-state basis, are saying in effect that rights are goodies provided by the state. That must lead to massive cognitive dissonance, since many of the same people who believe the former, would deny the latter.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments.

No, the point is that rights are inherent. They are not granted to me by any person or entity, however, there are people or entities that can and do work to impede them.

 

[Mr. President]

Don't confuse rights and wants.

 

[Stephanie]

that's that common core these Progressive/commie put in the schools. Parents better take their childrens schools back or start taking their kids out of them. This is pure evil brainwashing.

 

[ogibillm]

Your Government can acknowledge your rights they can not give them to you. Should your government not acknowledge your rights you have the right to revolution.

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments.

No, the point is that rights are inherent. They are not granted to me by any person or entity, however, there are people or entities that can and do work to impede them.

so in your mind non-citizens have the right to vote in our elections.

 

[Mac1958]

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Some have a government-centric perspective, others have an individual-centric perspective.

The Individual vs The Collective.

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[HenryBHough]

It's only right that a political party based on a hive mind thinks only in terms of the collective. There are no individuals hence no individual rights.

 

[deltex1]

According to the Founders, unalienable rights belong to each person by virtue of the fact that man is made in God’s image, and is therefore endowed with certain attributes, powers, freedoms, and legal protections as part of his essence. These rights are thus inseparable -- or unalienable -- from each person individually and from the human race in general. They are a gift from the Creator and it is impossible for government to alter or nullify mankind’s divine inheritance. Except in extremely rare and limited circumstances, the unalienable rights of a particular individual, or the population at large, cannot be suspended, abrogated, or diminished by government. When government does take action against a particular right, it may only do so to the extent necessary to address a genuine concern for public safety. (See "Legitimate Exceptions" below.) Unalienable rights automatically belong to each individual at the moment his or her life begins and continue throughout that person’s time on earth.

An exhaustive list of the unalienable rights possessed by man would probably fill several volumes which is why the Founding Fathersincluded the Ninth Amendment in the Bill of Rights. The Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution states:

“ The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. ”
However, at a minimum they include the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The following items, derived from the American Bill of Rights, expand on these themes:

1. To act in self-defense (personal, family, innocents, nation). (Second Amendment)
2. To own and carry weapons (firearms) for self-defense and for ensuring that the nation remains free. (Second Amendment)
3. To own and control private property (land, money, personal items, intellectual property, etc.)
4. To earn a living and keep the fruit of one’s labor.
5. To freely migrate within the country or to leave the country.
6. To worship -- or not worship -- God in the manner one chooses. (First Amendment)
7. To associate with -- or disassociate from -- any person or group. (First Amendment)
8. To express any idea through print, voice, banner, or other media. (First Amendment)
9. To be secure in one’s home, papers, and person against unwarranted searches and seizures (privacy). (Fourth Amendment)
10. To be advised of the charges, in the event of arrest.
11. To have a judge determine if the accused should be held for trial or for punishment.
12. To be tried by a jury of one's peers and face one's accuser, in the event of being charged with a crime.
13. To be tried by a jury of one's peers, in the event of a suit in which the disputed amount is substantive.
14. To suffer no cruel or unusual punishment.
15. To establish, monitor, control, and petition our servant government to help secure the above rights.
16. To abolish said government, when it becomes destructive of these rights.

 

[saveliberty]

Several liberals here seem confused. All of us have rights regardless of government. Many governments attempt to restrict or eliminate rights of their citizens. This country has a responsibility to show the world our government will not do that. It should start in our education system.

 

[pismoe]

wow , excellent 'deltex' , very nice , thankyou !!

 

[ogibillm]

Several liberals here seem confused. All of us have rights regardless of government. Many governments attempt to restrict or eliminate rights of their citizens. This country has a responsibility to show the world our government will not do that. It should start in our education system.

the only rights we have without government are those we can take for ourselves.

 

[Stephanie]

Several liberals here seem confused. All of us have rights regardless of government. Many governmetn attempt to restrict or eliminate rights of their citizens. This country has a responsibility to show the world our government will not do that. It should start in our education system.

Unfortunately we have citizens who does believe it's the "government" who gives us rights. some right here on this board. That's why they've become a tyrant. Like telling us what size soda cups we should be drinking from

 

[g5000]

The next generation might have an entirely different idea of what rights are all about. They are being taught the liberal way, which means students are taught that everything you have, including rights, are merely gifts from government.

I have REALLY bad news for you.

The story is from Ohio. Ohio has a Republican Governor, a Republican House, and a Republican Senate.

 

[ogibillm]

According to the Founders, unalienable rights belong to each person by virtue of the fact that man is made in God’s image, and is therefore endowed with certain attributes, powers, freedoms, and legal protections as part of his essence. These rights are thus inseparable -- or unalienable -- from each person individually and from the human race in general. They are a gift from the Creator and it is impossible for government to alter or nullify mankind’s divine inheritance. Except in extremely rare and limited circumstances, the unalienable rights of a particular individual, or the population at large, cannot be suspended, abrogated, or diminished by government. When government does take action against a particular right, it may only do so to the extent necessary to address a genuine concern for public safety. (See "Legitimate Exceptions" below.) Unalienable rights automatically belong to each individual at the moment his or her life begins and continue throughout that person’s time on earth.

An exhaustive list of the unalienable rights possessed by man would probably fill several volumes which is why the Founding Fathersincluded the Ninth Amendment in the Bill of Rights. The Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution states:

“ The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. ”
However, at a minimum they include the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The following items, derived from the American Bill of Rights, expand on these themes:

1. To act in self-defense (personal, family, innocents, nation). (Second Amendment)
2. To own and carry weapons (firearms) for self-defense and for ensuring that the nation remains free. (Second Amendment)
3. To own and control private property (land, money, personal items, intellectual property, etc.)
4. To earn a living and keep the fruit of one’s labor.
5. To freely migrate within the country or to leave the country.
6. To worship -- or not worship -- God in the manner one chooses. (First Amendment)
7. To associate with -- or disassociate from -- any person or group. (First Amendment)
8. To express any idea through print, voice, banner, or other media. (First Amendment)
9. To be secure in one’s home, papers, and person against unwarranted searches and seizures (privacy). (Fourth Amendment)
10. To be advised of the charges, in the event of arrest.
11. To have a judge determine if the accused should be held for trial or for punishment.
12. To be tried by a jury of one's peers and face one's accuser, in the event of being charged with a crime.
13. To be tried by a jury of one's peers, in the event of a suit in which the disputed amount is substantive.
14. To suffer no cruel or unusual punishment.
15. To establish, monitor, control, and petition our servant government to help secure the above rights.
16. To abolish said government, when it becomes destructive of these rights.

not much of a gift if we can just go around taking them from each other.

 

[deltex1]

According to the Founders, unalienable rights belong to each person by virtue of the fact that man is made in God’s image, and is therefore endowed with certain attributes, powers, freedoms, and legal protections as part of his essence. These rights are thus inseparable -- or unalienable -- from each person individually and from the human race in general. They are a gift from the Creator and it is impossible for government to alter or nullify mankind’s divine inheritance. Except in extremely rare and limited circumstances, the unalienable rights of a particular individual, or the population at large, cannot be suspended, abrogated, or diminished by government. When government does take action against a particular right, it may only do so to the extent necessary to address a genuine concern for public safety. (See "Legitimate Exceptions" below.) Unalienable rights automatically belong to each individual at the moment his or her life begins and continue throughout that person’s time on earth.

An exhaustive list of the unalienable rights possessed by man would probably fill several volumes which is why the Founding Fathersincluded the Ninth Amendment in the Bill of Rights. The Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution states:

“ The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. ”
However, at a minimum they include the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The following items, derived from the American Bill of Rights, expand on these themes:

1. To act in self-defense (personal, family, innocents, nation). (Second Amendment)
2. To own and carry weapons (firearms) for self-defense and for ensuring that the nation remains free. (Second Amendment)
3. To own and control private property (land, money, personal items, intellectual property, etc.)
4. To earn a living and keep the fruit of one’s labor.
5. To freely migrate within the country or to leave the country.
6. To worship -- or not worship -- God in the manner one chooses. (First Amendment)
7. To associate with -- or disassociate from -- any person or group. (First Amendment)
8. To express any idea through print, voice, banner, or other media. (First Amendment)
9. To be secure in one’s home, papers, and person against unwarranted searches and seizures (privacy). (Fourth Amendment)
10. To be advised of the charges, in the event of arrest.
11. To have a judge determine if the accused should be held for trial or for punishment.
12. To be tried by a jury of one's peers and face one's accuser, in the event of being charged with a crime.
13. To be tried by a jury of one's peers, in the event of a suit in which the disputed amount is substantive.
14. To suffer no cruel or unusual punishment.
15. To establish, monitor, control, and petition our servant government to help secure the above rights.
16. To abolish said government, when it becomes destructive of these rights.

not much of a gift if we can just go around taking them from each other.

If someone tries....kill him.