Right Wing Whites Do Not Have Any Solutions to Offer Blacks

[HereWeGoAgain]

Explain how it hasn't. For example, what year were you born and where did you live?

You're the one making the claim back it up.
If anything blacks recieve help from the government through welfare and affirmative action and thats proven and undeniable.

 

[IM2]

Whats to understand?
You blame whitey for all of your problems.

I blame "whitey" for creating racist laws and policies. Those have been the problem.

“The U.S. racial wealth gap is substantial and is driven by public policy decisions. According to our analysis of the SIPP data, in 2011 the median white household had $111,146 in wealth holdings, compared to just $7,113 for the median Black household and $8,348 for the median Latino household. From the continuing impact of redlining on American homeownership to the retreat from desegregation in public education, public policy has shaped these disparities, leaving them impossible to overcome without racially-aware policy change.” -DEMOS

On October 24, 2013, the Kellogg Foundation and Altarum Institute sent out a press release about a report they had done titled, “The Business Case for Racial Equity.” This was a study done by both organizations, using information studied and assessed from the Center for American Progress, National Urban League Policy Institute, Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies and the U.S. Department of Justice.

“Striving for racial equity – a world where race is no longer a factor in the distribution of opportunity – is a matter of social justice. But moving toward racial equity can generate significant economic returns as well. When people face barriers to achieving their full potential, the loss of talent, creativity, energy, and productivity is a burden not only for those disadvantaged, but for communities, businesses, governments, and the economy as a whole. Initial research on the magnitude of this burden in the United States (U.S.), as highlighted in this brief, reveals impacts in the trillions of dollars in lost earnings, avoidable public expenditures, and lost economic output.”-
The Kellogg Foundation and Altarum Institute

On September 3, 2019, Brentin Mock, wrote an article on the Bloomberg.com CityLab website titled, “White Americans’ Hold on Wealth Is Old, Deep, and Nearly Unshakeable” based on a study done by McKinsey and Company called “The economic impact of closing the racial wealth gap.” In this study McKinsey and Company predicted a bleak future if current race based wealth inequality continues.

“It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey.

If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.”

Inconvenient truths a scrub like you is not man enough to face. Didn't your father teach you that real men face the truth? Apparently you grew up without a father.

 

[IM2]

Get a life.

My life is just fine. Face the truth and change.

 

[IM2]

You're the one making the claim back it up.
If anything blacks recieve help from the government through welfare and affirmative action and thats proven and undeniable.

I am not making a claim. I am stating a fact and you know it. That's why you can't give up the information, because it will reveal just how much you have benefitted because of government. Whites have received affirmative action since 1776 and that's what is proven and undeniable.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Only to dumb ass, uneducated, racist white trash.

You're a whiney twat everywhere you go. In everything you say.

 

[MarathonMike]

We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city.

What is my motive for "lying" about my concern for innocent children being slaughterd by drug gangs IM2? Why do I keep SERENITY as my avatar? Why can't you say her name IM2? Say it with me S-E-R-E-N-I-T-Y. She didn't deserve to die at 6 years old strapped in her car seat.

 

[MarathonMike]

Nice try, dumb, uneducated, racist piece of white trash.

Uh oh, watch out IM2 you are cruisin for a bruisin from the Mods!

 

[Lastamender]

My life is just fine. Face the truth and change.

Eat me, I'm a vitamin.

 

[MarathonMike]

It gets old reading the threads made by racists claiming to be concerned about issues affecting blacks. We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city. We have another racist who has determined she knows that racism is not a reason why blacks are in poverty. We have another racist who started calling himself debating me about racism, but that turned into the usual racist righ lecture about black crime.

We’ve heard all the so-called “politically incorrect” comments telling us that the problems plaguing black communities are self-inflicted and include: unmarried births, fatherless homes, refusal to take education seriously, rap music, worship of thug culture, genetic inferiority, low IQ, making up racism to get paid, the victim mentality, waiting for a handout, government dependence, special rights and whatever else. All of this is incorrect. Let us genuinely step out of the box. It is time to get honest about leaving the so-called plantation. Other blacks have tried to be polite and politically correct about this. I won’t be. The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism. Don’t conflate what you just read. I said white racism, not white people. Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yes, that’s what I said. I am not waiting for whites to give me anything free. I do not have some so-called victim mentality whereby I blame whites for my failings. If I have failed at things, I failed on my own. It is time some whites stopped the juvenile name-calling and tightened up. The reality of racism is not about failing. It is about denial—the denial of opportunity. The failure lies in those who have chosen to fall for what white race pimps have told them. White racism IS the root cause; it is the fundamental reason for the occurrence of problems in the black community.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

We know blacks were denied constitutional rights such as citizenship, habeas corpus, unreasonable search, seizure, and freedom itself, which deprived blacks of every opportunity we were supposed to be granted by law. The suburbs were built with guaranteed government loans given primarily to whites. We know that black communities were redlined, making loans for blacks trying to buy homes in those neighborhoods risks banks refused to take. We know that federal housing policy created the slums and ghettos. City zoning policy created black communities divided by freeways and close to industries spewing poisonous waste. We know that government policy consistently underfunds schools in the black community. In the 21st century, we know that a process called retail redlining exists whereby retail businesses refuse to go into black communities. Today, political donors from outside the black community have undue influence relative to city policies, and that influence has negatively impacted black communities.

After President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, some believe that Jim Crow magically disappeared even as we are today looking at lawmakers who were born and raised during Jim Crow. Books such as “Color of Law" “White Rage" “American Apartheid" “The New Jim Crow" “A Colony Within A Nation,” or “Racism without Racists,” provide examples of the great pains the American government took to establish and maintain a system based on white racial supremacy. They detail the toll such policies have inflicted upon blacks and all other people of color in America. Countless studies document the adverse effects of purposefully designed racially exclusionary American public policy on black communities. Despite the findings, anyone concluding the cause is white racism will get a person ridiculed by some members of the white community. In addition, one must battle people of color who have been shamed into adopting right-wing opinions about some kind of imaginary victim mentality.

To repeat a phrase from Funkadelic, “You can’t know what’s going on if you seek.” We are now into the third decade of the 21st century; therefore, it has become time for some whites to understand they are not experts on the problems in the black community, the causes of those problems, or the solutions.

In the movie “The Shawshank Redemption,” Andy Dufrane went to the warden after listening to a story from a prisoner who got transferred into Shawshank and had been a cellmate with the man who committed the murders that got Dufrane sent to prison. Dufrane repeated the story to the Warden. After listening, Warden Norton knew that Dufrane was telling the truth. Instead of letting Dufrane get a new trial, the Warden started making excuses for why he could not do it. The denials were because Warden Norton was being paid under the table as he ran a contracting scam that included laundering money using Dufrane as an accountant. After listening to the many excuses from Norton, Dufrane asked the question, “Are you always so obtuse?”

This is a perfect analogy to describe the relationship between many in the white community and us as black people. History is documented. There really can be no denial of what has gone on. Despite the facts, some whites believe these things have no relationship to how and why things are as they are now. Like Norton, they have lived in a system that has afforded them wealth and do not want it changed. There are some whites, regardless of party or ideology, who refuse to take a realistic look at the issue of race. It seems people want to solve race-based problems without looking at race to solve them. As mentioned earlier, I do not attest to being the most brilliant or most intellectual man. Still, common sense says that if a system is built on denying specific races access to opportunity, racism will be at least partly the reason for the problems that exist due to that exclusion.

What I say is backed up by these links and many more. Not one of you racists argue with anything close to this kind of supporting evidence. Channel4 is not such evidence.

Janelle Jones, John Schmitt, Valerie Wilson, “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” Economic Policy Institute, February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

Ryan C.T. DeLapp, MA, and Monnica T. Williams, Ph.D., “Proactively Coping With Racism, Getting back to our lives in the aftermath of racial violence in the media.”, July 18, 2016, www.psychologytoday,com

Dennis R. Upkins, Denying Racism And Other Forms Of Gaslighting, Aug 24, 2016, Mental Health Matters, derived from: https://mental-health-matters.com/denying-racism-and-other-forms-of-gaslighting/

Angelique M. Davis & Rose Ernst (2019) Racial gaslighting, Politics, Groups, and Identities, 7:4, 761-774, DOI: 10.1080/21565503.2017.1403934

Cheyna Roth, Racism Declared A Public Health Crisis In New Whitmer Executive Directive, Aug 05, 2020, Racism declared a public health crisis in new Whitmer executive directive

Is Racism a Public Health Issue? Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health, October 9, 2017, Is Racism a Public Health Issue? — Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health

Camara Jules P. Harrell, Tanisha I. Burford, Brandi N. Cage, Travette McNair Nelson, Sheronda Shearon, Adrian Thompson, and Steven Green, Multiple Pathways Linking Racism to Health Outcomes, US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans, Compilation by the SAMHSA Office of Behavioral Health Equity, June 3, 2020, https://www.mhanational.org/sites/default/files/AfricanAmericansRaceViolenceandHealth SAMHSA OBHE 6.3.20.pdf

Geronimus, A. T., Hicken, M., Keene, D., & Bound, J. (2006). "Weathering" and age patterns of allostatic load scores among blacks and whites in the United States. American journal of public health, 96(5), 826–833. The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

Maya Oppenheim, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates, Tuesday 22 August 2017, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll, Sep. 15, 2017/ Updated Sep 16, 2017, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll

Thomson Reuters and the University of Virginia Center for Politics, Reuters/Ipsos/UVA Center for Politics Race Poll, September 11, 2017, https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, https://nwlc.org/resources/affirmative-action-and-what-it-means-women/

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action

Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery, Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery

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Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/beyond-trafficking-and-slavery/irish-slaves-convenient-myth/

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Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,

How the Irish Became White

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Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, http://www.cjcj.org/news/6523

Charles Blow, “Black Dads Are Doing Best of All,” New York Times June 8, 2015, https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/08/opinion/charles-blow-black-dads-are-doing-the-best-of-all.html

Jo Jones, Ph.D., and William D. Mosher, Ph.D., Fathers’ Involvement with Their Children: United States, 2006–2010, National Health Statistics Report, Number 71, December 20, 2013, Division of Vital Statistics

Gretchen Livingston And Kim Parker, Pew Research, A Tale of Two Fathers, pg.2, https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2011/06/15/a-tale-of-two-fathers/

Tara Culp-Ressler, The Myth of the Absent Black Father, Think Progress, January 16, 2014, https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-the-absent-black-father-ecc4e961c2e8

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National Conference of Black Lawyers, the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and the National Lawyers Guild, Report of the International Commission of Inquiry on Systemic Racist Police Violence against People of African Descent in the U.S., https://inquirycommission.org/website/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Commission-Report-15-April.pdf

Alice Speri, The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration Of Law Enforcement, The Intercept, January 31 2017, https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

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Annalisa Merelli, More black people were killed by US police in 2015 than were lynched in the worst year of Jim Crow, July 7, 2016, https://qz.com/726245/more-black-pe...n-were-lynched-in-the-worst-year-of-jim-crow/

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Oh look, IM2 listed a bunch of racism "studies" from Libtard Racist professors. For the 200th time.

 

[IM2]

What is my motive for "lying" about my concern for innocent children being slaughterd by drug gangs IM2? Why do I keep SERENITY as my avatar? Why can't you say her name IM2? Say it with me S-E-R-E-N-I-T-Y. She didn't deserve to die at 6 years old strapped in her car seat.

You don't give a flying fuck about that child. A lot of blacks have not deserved to die but because of racists like you it keeps going.

 

[IM2]

Oh look, IM2 listed a bunch of racism "studies" from Libtard Racist professors. For the 200th time.

And here is an example of how you don't give a damn and have no clue.

 

[IM2]

Uh oh, watch out IM2 you are cruisin for a bruisin from the Mods!

Of course I am, but you get to keep that race bait thread up.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yet every single thing you post demonstrates that you believe they are...

 

[MarathonMike]

Of course I am, but you get to keep that race bait thread up.

I post 100% FACTS in my Black Deaths Matters thread as you well know. But in your fantasy world, I have to be a "lying racist", otherwise your fantasy world collapses like a house of cards.

 

[IM2]

I post 100% FACTS in my Black Deaths Matters thread as you well know. But in your fantasy world, I have to be a "lying racist", otherwise your fantasy world collapses like a house of cards.

No, you really don't. I live in reality and the reality of Chicago from people I know there says that what you post is pure racist hogwash. Thats why I told you to subscribe to the Chicago Defender so you can get accurate news about the black community.

 

[MarathonMike]

No, you really don't. I live in reality and the reality of Chicago from people I know there says that what you post is pure racist hogwash. Thats why I told you to subscribe to the Chicago Defender so you can get accurate news about the black community.

Yes I really do and you can't possibly know what is in my mind or my heart. You have attacked me for over two years with your racist nonsense. Why can't you just admit that white people can care about little innocent black kids? Why is that so terrifying for you?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Actually, it has been trillions when you add them all up.

You are delusional. Just keep saying what they tell you to say, and well just keep right on being upwardly mobile. The more things change, the more they stay the same...

 

[IM2]

You are delusional. Just keep saying what they tell you to say, and well just keep right on being upwardly mobile. The more things change, the more they stay the same...

No, I am speaking truth. "They" aren't telling me shit. But history is. Whites got where they are today by excluding everybody else for 197 years, and now 57 years later after still not following the laws meant to include others we have idiots like you living with psychosis talking about how whites did things. Yeah, I guess it took a lot of ingenuity and hard work to commit genocide, keep people enslaved, and:

“From its inception, the country’s legal foundations, political architecture, and civic fabric were designed to privilege the well-being of those who declared themselves white at the expense of Native Americans, African Americans, and other people of color. Generation after generation, as the baldest tactics were challenged, white America creatively renewed and reworked this pact to protect ourselves from political disempowerment, economic uncertainty, legal jeopardy, and physical violence. When the weight of the blood spilled by over 750,000 Americans shattered outright slavery, white America picked up the shards, fashioning them into a ramshackle but effective system of sharecropping, lynching, convict leasing, segregationist Jim Crow laws, restrictive immigration policies, appeals to “states’ rights,” voter suppression, and mass incarceration.”
-Robert P. Jones

 

[Orangecat]

Right Wing Whites Do Not Have Any Solutions to Offer Blacks​

I don't recall ever accepting the responsibility of offering solutions to blacks. That's because I didn't.

 

[IM2]

Yes I really do and you can't possibly know what is in my mind or my heart. You have attacked me for over two years with your racist nonsense. Why can't you just admit that white people can care about little innocent black kids? Why is that so terrifying for you?

No, you don't. Because if you did, you would have been in that community for the past 20 years working to fix whatever problem you claim exists. White people can care about little innocent black kids, those that do are in communities working. Those that do people like you accuse of being guilt-ridden white liberals. Your bitch ass wants to call somebody a racist for displaying the truth. You didn't give a damn about that child or your ass would have been in the hood working. Save the drama racist, because everybody black here knows that you are using a dead child as an excuse to spew your racist filth.