Returning Troops Banned From Airport Terminal

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    Well folks, it has started. In Oakland CA, returning Marines from Iraq were banned from the airport terminal in Oakland

    I guess some on the left plan to treat troops from Iraq like they did troops coming home from Viet Nam



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    In short: “On September 27th 204 Marines and soldiers who were returning from Iraq were not allowed into the passenger terminal at Oakland International Airport.Instead they had to deplane about 400 yards away from the terminal where the extra baggage trailers were located. This was the last scheduled stop for fuel and food prior to flying to Hawaii where both were based. The trip started in Kuwait on September 26th with a rigorous search of checked and carry on baggage by US Customs. All baggage was x-rayed with a ‘backscatter’ machine AND each bag was completely emptied and hand searched. After being searched, checked bags were marked and immediately placed in a secure container. Carry on bags were then x rayed again to ensure no contraband items were taken on the plane. While waiting for the bus to the airport, all personnel were in quarantined in a fenced area and were not allowed to leave.” Nevertheless, Oakland forbade them from entering its terminal. According to the Marine, a Lieutenant who served in Afghanistan with the same unit in 2006 noted that Oakland had treated troops the same way before. He “was almost arrested by the TSA for getting belligerent about them not letting the Marines into the terminal,” despite more rigorous screening prior to landing in Oakland. Both JFK airport and in Germany had no problem with the Marines entering their terminals.

    I have also obtained the Port of Oakland’s response about the incident to Captain David Epstein of the Reserve Officers Association. The Port official blames a lack of “clear communication” from the charter airline hired by the military. In other words: it’s the troops’ fault:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/30/what-happened-to-our-troops-in-oakland
     
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    And the lies begin again. During Nam I went through many an airport etc and never was I greeted with anything but respect and consideration. Flying standby was a challenge sometimes, but everyone helped, even to carrying my duffel bag.

    And see below before you begin the same BS over again.


    http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Did_protesters_spit_050803.htm

    " Jerry Lembcke, an associate professor of sociology at Holy Cross and a Vietnam combat veteran, has written a well documented book, "The Spitting Image: Myth, Memory, and the Legacy of Vietnam" (New York University Press, 1998) that thoroughly debunks the tales of protesters "spitting upon" Vietnam vets. Lembcke conducted extensive research to ascertain that there were no contemporaneous news reports or police complaints lodged to substantiate the claims that began appearing in the media about 1991. The perpetuation of such myths only blocks the healing of Vietnam veterans from our "culture of victimization," and it serves the agenda of those pro-war forces who place fear and intimidation in the path of open debate on the pressing issues of the moment."
     
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    Like Movon.org - some on the left will try to deny this ever happened. The kook left has a long history of showing how they really feel about the US military - it is not a history one should be proud of
     
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    So rsr, I take it you think that people who haven't been scanned by TSA should be allowed into airport terminals?

    Seems like a stupid idea to me.
     
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    And you know that how? Through BS you read online? lol - You forget Bush Jr and Cheney, draft dodgers par excellence.
     
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    "Scanned by the TSA?" Is that some higher clearance I don't know about. So the FBI background check a soldier goes through and gets clearance to carry a full auto weapon isn't good enough?

    Where's your logic?
     
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    They were screened by security, how is this an outrage? Why do some websites claim they were spit on when they weren't. Why is this more important than the failed war POLICY?
     
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    "In this startling book, Jerry Lembcke demonstrates that not a single incident of this sort has been convincingly documented. Rather, the anti-war Left saw in veterans a natural ally, and the relationship between anti-war forces and most veterans was defined by mutual support. Indeed one soldier wrote angrily to Vice President Spiro Agnew that the only Americans who seemed concerned about the soldier's welfare were the anti-war activists.While the veterans were sometimes made to feel uncomfortable about their service, this sense of unease was, Lembcke argues, more often rooted in the political practices of the Right. Tracing a range of conflicts in the twentieth century, the book illustrates how regimes engaged in unpopular conflicts often vilify their domestic opponents for "stabbing the boys in the back."Concluding with an account of the powerful role played by Hollywood in cementing the myth of the betrayed veteran through such films as Coming Home, Taxi Driver, and Rambo, Jerry Lembcke's book stands as one of the most important, original, and controversial works of cultural history in recent years.""

    from Google book search

    “The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over” Joseph Goebbels
     
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    Hey Pale - he must have missed this part of my original post

    All baggage was x-rayed with a ‘backscatter’ machine AND each bag was completely emptied and hand searched. After being searched, checked bags were marked and immediately placed in a secure container. Carry on bags were then x rayed again to ensure no contraband items were taken on the plane. While waiting for the bus to the airport, all personnel were in quarantined in a fenced area and were not allowed to leave.” Nevertheless, Oakland forbade them from entering its terminal.


    Some on the kook left is once agin showing how they really fell about the US military, and those who point it out are the real bad guys
     
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    Look no one is saying that this doesn't suck but we're talking about what...two hours of inconvenience. If this was some leftist plot to humiliate and dishonor the troops why didnt the airport bus in anti war protesters, set up a picket line and force the troops to march through it? As it is, it seems one of two things happened. There was incompetence in the airport as to what security screening needed to happen. There was a malicious plot to delay the arrival of troops by checking baggage that had already been checked.

    The right is REALLY searching for evidence that returning troops are being dishonored so they can discredit the anti-war crowd. Problem for them is that the anti war crowd is the majority of the population and the troops are entirely seperate from people's feelings about the war policy.
     

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