Republicans have this strange double speak about socialism and how it is defined

[AzogtheDefiler]

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me so stay on topic. I never mentioned Venezuela. Fatty.

No, I'm quite happy you have admitted government-sponsored healthcare and government-sponsored college don't make a country socialist. This is some real growth in you, azog!

I will repeat because you're fat and dumb. If you want UC then you need to attack the expensive education system first. Do you understand this? Let us see if a fat moron like you can answer.

I'll wait patiently.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me first regarding Sweden. I showed you were a moron so now you moved the goal posts and mentioned Venezuela, which I never brought up. You’re a fat loser and lost another debate to me. The principal was right.

Well, it is nice that you have admitted, and are on record admitting, free college and free healthcare won't make us a socialist country or turn us into Venezuela!

Cool!

Are you insane? Seriously. You attacked me over Sweden and now you're discussing Venezuela? Moron.

You said the Scandinavian countries are not socialist.

Scandinavia has UHC and government-sponsored college.

Ergo, you have admitted UHC and government-sponsored college do not make a country socialist.

QED.

Thank you!

Correct. And? That was not the crux of my argument whatsoever. You just made it up to be an asshole. The issue is much more complex than this. And you know it. Or maybe you don't as you're dumb and fat.

 

[g5000]

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me so stay on topic. I never mentioned Venezuela. Fatty.

No, I'm quite happy you have admitted government-sponsored healthcare and government-sponsored college don't make a country socialist. This is some real growth in you, azog!

I will repeat because you're fat and dumb. If you want UC then you need to attack the expensive education system first. Do you understand this? Let us see if a fat moron like you can answer.

I'll wait patiently.

I'm quite satisfied with your admission UHC and free college will not make us socialist. Thanks. This has been quite a profitable conversation.

 

[LaDairis]

W and a Republican Congress socialized senior drugs in 2004. How did that work?

A: it flooded America's high schools with cheap taxpayer funded addictive pills...

How did the GOP pass socialism like that?

Since W took office, the GOP's credibility went to zero immediately. This is the truth about W and socializing senior drugs...


Inquiry Confirms Top Medicare Official Threatened Actuary Over Cost of Drug Benefits


"An internal investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services confirms that the top Medicare official threatened to fire the program's chief actuary if he told Congress that drug benefits would probably cost much more than the White House acknowledged.

A report on the investigation, issued Tuesday, says the administrator of Medicare, Thomas A. Scully, issued the threat to Richard S. Foster while lawmakers were considering huge changes in the program last year. As a result, Mr. Foster's cost estimate did not become known until after the legislation was enacted."


The W Administration LIED and THREATENED to pass SOCIALIZED SENIOR DRUGS... all while Tom Delay was passing out $10k checks from drug companies, since our "leaders" agreed to pay a RETAIL PRICE, not a "group discount" price....

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me so stay on topic. I never mentioned Venezuela. Fatty.

No, I'm quite happy you have admitted government-sponsored healthcare and government-sponsored college don't make a country socialist. This is some real growth in you, azog!

I will repeat because you're fat and dumb. If you want UC then you need to attack the expensive education system first. Do you understand this? Let us see if a fat moron like you can answer.

I'll wait patiently.

I'm quite satisfied with your admission UHC and free college will not make us socialist. Thanks. This has been quite a profitable conversation.

You don't get off that easily. I never said it was so why did you pick me to annoy? Be a man and answer. Let's see if you can answer.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Fat loser, you attacked me so stay on topic. I never mentioned Venezuela. Fatty.

No, I'm quite happy you have admitted government-sponsored healthcare and government-sponsored college don't make a country socialist. This is some real growth in you, azog!

I will repeat because you're fat and dumb. If you want UC then you need to attack the expensive education system first. Do you understand this? Let us see if a fat moron like you can answer.

I'll wait patiently.

I'm quite satisfied with your admission UHC and free college will not make us socialist. Thanks. This has been quite a profitable conversation.

You don't get off that easily. I never said it was so why did you pick me to annoy? Be a man and answer. Let's see if you can answer.

Just as I figured. COWARD.

 

[francoHFW]

Not entitled taking from the safety net provided by the working hands of others as in this country.
So you are a racist who believes certain races are inferior? Got it.

I am an individualist.

Love Individualists of all colors.

your quote is all screwed up. I only said the second half about him being a racist because he said Sweden is not like us because they are so homogeneous. I guess that doesn't take into account all the refugees and immigrants they have taken in from countries that the GOP have wrecked... While we do not.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism is the Republican name for almost everything that helps all the people:

"Senator Bernie Sanders, the only avowed socialist in the Presidential race, delivered a speech on Wednesday that presented his brand of democratic socialism as an unthreatening egalitarianism, in the spirit of Franklin D. Roosevelt and Martin Luther King, Jr.

"He called it 'the unfinished business of the New Deal' and recited an 'economic bill of rights' that included the right to a living wage, health care, a secure retirement, and a clean environment.

"'Socialism,' Sanders quoted President Harry Truman as saying, in 1952, ' is the epithet they have hurled at every advance that people have made in the last twenty years.

"'Socialism is what they called Social Security.'

"'Socialism is what they called farm-price supports.'

"'Socialism is what they called bank-deposit insurance.'

"'Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor.'

"'Socialism is their name for almost everything that helps all of the people.'"

The Many, Tangled American Definitions of Socialism

The rich would never acquire their fortunes without government supplied welfare in the form of tax and trade policies.

Socialism for the rich and cut-throat capitalism for the rest.

Here is the socialist's conception of helping all people.

Here is the socialist's conception of helping all people.

Here's where Capitalism's free market started:

Slavery has been around for 10,000 years, shit for brains.

Slavery has been around for 10,000 years, shit for brains.

Now you know where US Capitalists found their seed money, right Loon?

Slavery Made America

"...(B)y 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States.

"In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined.

Cotton, slavery and capitalism - Econlib

If capitalism was dependent on slavery, then why didn't the U.S. economy collapse when it ended? Your graph shows that it kept right on chugging as if nothing happened. In fact, it even increased.

Well consider that under Jim Crow the blacks were sharecroppers who were barely better off than slaves. And the industrial revolution took off at the same time. That was the last time inequality was as bad as it is today. Great job GOP.always a great idea to assume that corporations are doing the best for everyone LOL....

 

[francoHFW]

So the US is a Republican country because our President is Republican? You're an idiot. And to further prove my point:

In the 2018 Swedish general election, The Social Democrats' vote share fell to 28.3%, its lowest level of support since 1911

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Free PUBLIC college and training, brainwashed functional moron. Like we had before Reagan.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

They have Universal Health Care. Which is what causes retards like you to scream some bullshit about Venezuela every time UHC is mentioned.

If we have UHC, we will not turn into Venezuela any more than Scandinavia has.

Got it now, tard?

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Free PUBLIC college and training, brainwashed functional moron. Like we had before Reagan.

I was Not born then. You dysfunctional idiot. Luckily you’re old and won’t be around much longer.

 

[LaDairis]

Jim Crow the blacks were sharecroppers who were barely better off than slaves.

Slavery = DEMOCRATS
Segregation/Jim Crow = DEMOCRATS

Thanks for the reminder of what YOUR PARTY did....

That was the last time inequality was as bad as it is today

LMFAO!!!

The black unemployment rate just hit a record low, but there’s a catch


Thank you President Trump.

 

[francoHFW]

Jim Crow the blacks were sharecroppers who were barely better off than slaves.

Slavery = DEMOCRATS
Segregation/Jim Crow = DEMOCRATS

Thanks for the reminder of what YOUR PARTY did....

That was the last time inequality was as bad as it is today

LMFAO!!!

The black unemployment rate just hit a record low, but there’s a catch


Thank you President Trump.

Southern conservatives are all Republicans now, dingbat. Yes the black unemployment rate is a hoax. Thanks for the link.

 

[LaDairis]

The Republican Party never supported slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, or Affirmative Action.

The Democrat Party did.

Why can't the Democrat Party simply support EQUALITY UNDER LAW, which the Democrat Party

HAS NEVER DONE.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Jim Crow the blacks were sharecroppers who were barely better off than slaves.

Slavery = DEMOCRATS
Segregation/Jim Crow = DEMOCRATS

Thanks for the reminder of what YOUR PARTY did....

That was the last time inequality was as bad as it is today

LMFAO!!!

The black unemployment rate just hit a record low, but there’s a catch


Thank you President Trump.

Southern conservatives are all Republicans now, dingbat. Yes the black unemployment rate is a hoax. Thanks for the link.

You having a functional brain is a hoax, Franco.

 

[bripat9643]

Here is the socialist's conception of helping all people.

Here is the socialist's conception of helping all people.

Here's where Capitalism's free market started:

Slavery has been around for 10,000 years, shit for brains.

Slavery has been around for 10,000 years, shit for brains.

Now you know where US Capitalists found their seed money, right Loon?

Slavery Made America

"...(B)y 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States.

"In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined.

Cotton, slavery and capitalism - Econlib

If capitalism was dependent on slavery, then why didn't the U.S. economy collapse when it ended? Your graph shows that it kept right on chugging as if nothing happened. In fact, it even increased.

Well consider that under Jim Crow the blacks were sharecroppers who were barely better off than slaves. And the industrial revolution took off at the same time. That was the last time inequality was as bad as it is today. Great job GOP.always a great idea to assume that corporations are doing the best for everyone LOL....

ROFL!

I knew you were going to resort to that same old shopworn argument: slavery didn't really end after the Civil War! What a fucking douchebag.

"The industrial revolution took off at the same times" as what?

This discussion is about slavery, not inequality. The later has been a fact of life ever since the beginning of civilization.

 

[elektra]

Socialism is socialism. Socialism stinks. Socialism is directly responsible for over 100 million dead in the 20th century. Socialist have created mobs and death squads. Socialists always have a bogeyman. A person to hate. A person to blame the "troubles" upon. Socialists are filthy liars.

Anybody who disagrees is wrong.

The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism | Corey Iacono
I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism is socialism. Socialism stinks. Socialism is directly responsible for over 100 million dead in the 20th century. Socialist have created mobs and death squads. Socialists always have a bogeyman. A person to hate. A person to blame the "troubles" upon. Socialists are filthy liars.

Anybody who disagrees is wrong.

The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism | Corey Iacono
I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.

That is communism, brain washed functional moron Cold War dinosaur dingbat. Every Fair definition of socialism says it is a society where business and industry is owned or regulated by the community. Nowadays it means regulated by the community everywhere but cold war dinosaur GOP America... Any political scientist or historian will tell you there have been three stages of its definition Marxism proven wrong communism proven totally non-democratic and today Fair capitalism with a good safety net and always democratic.

"We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. If we elected berny or Warren, or basically any Democrat, we would be moving toward healthcare for all a living wage daycare help paid parental leave, cheap college and training, great vacations and infrastructure, and ID card to end illegal immigration GOP scam forever like other modern countries, and mainly taxing the rich their fair share instead of at the same rate as everyone else, a ridiculous flat tax system GOP give away to the rich and screwjob for everyone else we are running now. You GOP dupes don't know that but you know every phony Scandal and misinformation the GOP propaganda machine puts out. Poor America

 

[daveman]

No, Comrade Billy, they aren't socialist countries and it isn't normal Americans who try to put lipstick on that "free" stuff pig but rather life's losers who just can't come to grips with what it is and how it destroys economies and people:

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
   • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

Lol okay if they are not socialist and Bernie is modeling their policies how is Bernie a socialist?

Ask Bernie. He proudly admits he's a lifelong socialist. I just provided you with the dictionary definition that you so regularly and adamantly reject.

Thing is socialism is a pig and the lipstick you liberally apply doesn't change that.

Lol what is that source even from? Granted Marxism is a form of socialism, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t different types. You do get that right? I love how your definition even includes wording about community ownership. Tax payers are that community.

Americans build our private assets of production, Comrade Billy, not the community, and it's those builders who create the jobs and wealth that have made our economy the envy of every socialist shithole - no matter what you call them - on the planet.

The community funds programs with revenue that they own and utilize. That’s socialism.

The community owns almost nothing. Individuals do. Money belongs to individuals. Government takes it from them by threat of violence.

How much of other people's money is your fair share?

 

[daveman]

Socialism is the Republican name for almost everything that helps all the people:

So can you tell us how you help all the people under a Socialist government? Please take your time, this will be interesting...

Please try and skip the copy and paste routine...

It's like Canada France Scandinavia Spain UK Japan Australia New Zealand. Where they have cheap college and training for opportunity Great vacations living wage daycare help and ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly tax the rich so it's not a GOP scam.

One can't help but wonder why you still live in America since it's so awful.

 

[daveman]

Socialism only works in countries that don't know what true freedoms and liberties are they have lived under tyrannical rule by kings and dictators for so long its in their DNA to be controlled and told what to do they are distended to be dependents they know nothing else

All socialism does is cause dependency it solves nothing all it causes is a two class system those that are dependent and those they or dependent on
but hey thats what Europeans are accustom too lived like that for thousands of years its in their DNA the dependent surfs and the lords they become dependent on just the lords have been replaced by government the elitist socialist

You can vote your way into socialism.

But you have to shoot your way out.

Problem is, the socialist masters always take away the guns from the proles.