Republicans have this strange double speak about socialism and how it is defined

[daveman]

It's coming so get used to it, perfect chump of the greedy idiot Rich GOP.

Over your dead body.

Another brainwashed functional moron totally Dead set against Great vacations living wage Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college in training good infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration, and mainly against taxing the rich their fair share. Totally misinformed and proud of it....

"Their fair share".

Socialists are greedy bastards. You always want what you didn't earn.

Hey, what's keeping you from sending extra money to the Treasury voluntarily?

Hint: Nothing. Nothing but you and your greed.

 

[daveman]

Socialism only works in countries that don't know what true freedoms and liberties are they have lived under tyrannical rule by kings and dictators for so long its in their DNA to be controlled and told what to do they are distended to be dependents they know nothing else

All socialism does is cause dependency it solves nothing all it causes is a two class system those that are dependent and those they or dependent on
but hey thats what Europeans are accustom too lived like that for thousands of years its in their DNA the dependent surfs and the lords they become dependent on just the lords have been replaced by government the elitist socialist

Actually they don't take any crap from their masters like you people do. They demand the benefits they deserve and they demand that the rich pay their fair share. Here you let the greedy idiot GOP rich get away with murder and you don't know what is actually going on, you believe their garbage propaganda.

ok then you are saying Europeans demanded to be dependents like children relying on the mothers and farther to take care of them because they aren't capable to do it them selves they don't know how

see you just proven my point your proud of being a dependent so proud you demand dependency

see here in the US we try not to be dependent on others we want to be self dependent we try to take are of our own selves

Absolute right-wing idiocy.keep voting against yourself and your family and friends, brainwashed functional moron perfect chump of the greedy idiot Rich GOP...

"...keep voting against yourself and your family and friends..."

I'm a white Christian conservative veteran who supports the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The Democratic Party hates me.

Why would I vote for candidates that hate me? Why would I vote for candidates that want to take stuff away from me and give it to people who didn't earn it?

If you're going to respond with your usual "GOP propaganda dupe" bullshit, save it. That song is as boring as shit.

 

[elektra]

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That is communism, brain washed functional moron Cold War dinosaur dingbat. Every Fair definition of socialism says it is a society where business and industry is owned or regulated by the community. Nowadays it means regulated by the community everywhere but cold war dinosaur GOP America... Any political scientist or historian will tell you there have been three stages of its definition Marxism proven wrong communism proven totally non-democratic and today Fair capitalism with a good safety net and always democratic.

"We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. If we elected berny or Warren, or basically any Democrat, we would be moving toward healthcare for all a living wage daycare help paid parental leave, cheap college and training, great vacations and infrastructure, and ID card to end illegal immigration GOP scam forever like other modern countries, and mainly taxing the rich their fair share instead of at the same rate as everyone else, a ridiculous flat tax system GOP give away to the rich and screwjob for everyone else we are running now. You GOP dupes don't know that but you know every phony Scandal and misinformation the GOP propaganda machine puts out. Poor America

Socialism has always failed, yet, somehow, you are smart enough to make it work. The Democrats today, who are burning cars in the street, physically attacking people, and lie and hate. Yes they are so different than those of the past???????

Healthcare for all? That was ObamaCare, where we could keep our doctors and plans if we like, NOT!!! Democrats who raised the cost of healthcare 3x's!!!

Daycare? So under your socialist dream, it takes two working parents to survive? Under unfettered capitalism one adult has to work, not two!!!!

Cheap college, uh, hate to break the news to you but it was you idiot DemoRATS that made college as expensive as a house, more expensive than anytime in history!!!!

The rich, you mean rich DemoRATs!!! Like Obama who made $50 million since leaving office and did nothing while in office to ensure he got taxed his fair share????

The rich are the DemoRATs!!!! Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, huge DemoRATs!!!!!

You are pretty propagandized, I am afraid there is no help for you unless aliens invade, oh yea, that is the DemoRAT party, the super-rich spoon feeding illegal aliens.

 

[francoHFW]

Douchebag, their population is also tiny, they don't have minimum wage laws and free tuition. How will our MDs repay their $400k in school loans if we have UC and they cannot make as much money? If you give them free tuition I am all for free healthcare but you cannot have one without the other. You're dumber than a pile of rocks and you're fat.

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Free PUBLIC college and training, brainwashed functional moron. Like we had before Reagan.

I was Not born then. You dysfunctional idiot. Luckily you’re old and won’t be around much longer.

Too bad you know nothing but the brainwash, hater dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism only works in countries that don't know what true freedoms and liberties are they have lived under tyrannical rule by kings and dictators for so long its in their DNA to be controlled and told what to do they are distended to be dependents they know nothing else

All socialism does is cause dependency it solves nothing all it causes is a two class system those that are dependent and those they or dependent on
but hey thats what Europeans are accustom too lived like that for thousands of years its in their DNA the dependent surfs and the lords they become dependent on just the lords have been replaced by government the elitist socialist

Actually they don't take any crap from their masters like you people do. They demand the benefits they deserve and they demand that the rich pay their fair share. Here you let the greedy idiot GOP rich get away with murder and you don't know what is actually going on, you believe their garbage propaganda.

ok then you are saying Europeans demanded to be dependents like children relying on the mothers and farther to take care of them because they aren't capable to do it them selves they don't know how

see you just proven my point your proud of being a dependent so proud you demand dependency

see here in the US we try not to be dependent on others we want to be self dependent we try to take are of our own selves

Absolute right-wing idiocy.keep voting against yourself and your family and friends, brainwashed functional moron perfect chump of the greedy idiot Rich GOP...

"...keep voting against yourself and your family and friends..."

I'm a white Christian conservative veteran who supports the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The Democratic Party hates me.

Why would I vote for candidates that hate me? Why would I vote for candidates that want to take stuff away from me and give it to people who didn't earn it?

If you're going to respond with your usual "GOP propaganda dupe" bullshit, save it. That song is as boring as shit.

They hate your brainwash. Not you. And any intolerance racism or bigotry you may be talked into...

 

[elektra]

. Here you let the greedy idiot GOP rich get away with murder and you don't know what is actually going on, you believe their garbage propaganda.

No, here in the USA, the DemoRATS let the Democrat campaign donors get away with Pedophilia and Child Sex Slavery, as the billionaire demoRAT Jeffrey Epstein.

We also let rich DemoRATS get away with smashing government hard drives and cell phones to hide 30,000 emails as in Hillary Clinton.

We also let other rich Demorats like Weinstien get away with rape.

When you call others "greedy idiots", you describe yourself and the insane jealousy misdirected at the wrong people.

 

[francoHFW]

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That is communism, brain washed functional moron Cold War dinosaur dingbat. Every Fair definition of socialism says it is a society where business and industry is owned or regulated by the community. Nowadays it means regulated by the community everywhere but cold war dinosaur GOP America... Any political scientist or historian will tell you there have been three stages of its definition Marxism proven wrong communism proven totally non-democratic and today Fair capitalism with a good safety net and always democratic.

"We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. If we elected berny or Warren, or basically any Democrat, we would be moving toward healthcare for all a living wage daycare help paid parental leave, cheap college and training, great vacations and infrastructure, and ID card to end illegal immigration GOP scam forever like other modern countries, and mainly taxing the rich their fair share instead of at the same rate as everyone else, a ridiculous flat tax system GOP give away to the rich and screwjob for everyone else we are running now. You GOP dupes don't know that but you know every phony Scandal and misinformation the GOP propaganda machine puts out. Poor America

Socialism has always failed, yet, somehow, you are smart enough to make it work. The Democrats today, who are burning cars in the street, physically attacking people, and lie and hate. Yes they are so different than those of the past???????

Healthcare for all? That was ObamaCare, where we could keep our doctors and plans if we like, NOT!!! Democrats who raised the cost of healthcare 3x's!!!

Daycare? So under your socialist dream, it takes two working parents to survive? Under unfettered capitalism one adult has to work, not two!!!!

Cheap college, uh, hate to break the news to you but it was you idiot DemoRATS that made college as expensive as a house, more expensive than anytime in history!!!!

The rich, you mean rich DemoRATs!!! Like Obama who made $50 million since leaving office and did nothing while in office to ensure he got taxed his fair share????

The rich are the DemoRATs!!!! Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, huge DemoRATs!!!!!

You are pretty propagandized, I am afraid there is no help for you unless aliens invade, oh yea, that is the DemoRAT party, the super-rich spoon feeding illegal aliens.

It would be nice if the GOP would stop obstructing and sabotaging Obamacare and went after the ridiculous costs we have after years of the GOP scam system. Of course you believe a lot of crap about it. 75% of those on the exchanges pay less than $100 a month. and Medicaid expansion was the best thing that ever happened to the poor working class and the poor.

Some women want to work, it's a question of choice and helping if you decide that. Plus you live in a imaginary world where the GOP did not cut federal aid to education and did not do away with free public universities. That's called competition.

Obamacare has actually brought down the cost rise curve of healthcare even though sabotaged by the GOP at every turn. We have to go after the costs which the GOP blocks, like everything else that would help the non-rich. Republican Rich are greedy lying idiots, Democrat rich want the best for the country, that is having taxes raised on the rich. All of them duh.

 

[elektra]

It would be nice if the GOP would stop obstructing and sabotaging Obamacare and went after the ridiculous costs we have after years of the GOP scam system.

What cost created how, by the GOP?

Obamacare raised the rates while Obama was in office, period.

 

[elektra]

Of course you believe a lot of crap about it. 75% of those on the exchanges pay less than $100 a month. and

My healthcare costs over a $1000 a month with my employee contribution. I only have to pay $600. You don't know what you speak of.

 

[mudwhistle]

On the one hand, a liberal would say to a republican that we know socialism works because the Scandinavian countries' brand of socialism works. Repubs then say "those aren't socialist countries! They have private economies"

Um okay. They are socialist countries even though they have private economies. Those concepts don't have to be conflicting. They get that, right?

However, republicans will call those nations socialist depending on the context of the conversation.

A republican will say in a different conversation that Bernie shouldn't be elected because he is a dirty socialist who will turn the US into Venezuela. A liberal defending Bernie Sanders will say "No, Bernie doesn't want to end the private market system. He just wants to institute socialist policies that would require the population at large to benefit from the current overall system that we have. He also thinks healthcare and other critical institutions should be socialized or remain socialized. The Scandinavian nations have these same policies"......in response the republican says "THAT'S JUST LIKE VENEZUELA!"

No, it isn't.

Socialism means you don't own anything. Your check goes into the bank....and the government takes everything out it needs and you're left with the scraps leftover.

 

[elektra]

and Medicaid expansion was the best thing that ever happened to the poor working class and the poor.

Wrong again, the best thing that happened to thw Working Class as well as the poor is the Trump tax cut and Trump ending the Obama $1200 penalty tax on those without health insurance.

The worst thing that happened to the poor is the DemoRATS sending our jobs overseas and making rules and regulations to keep jobs out of the USA.

The best thing to happen to the poor, the lowest unemployment rates in history. Nothing the DemoRATs do ends poverty. It is said DemoRATs require the poor to be poor, so that they DemoRATs can manage the poor's poverty.

 

[georgephillip]

Here's where Capitalism's free market started:

And just like a good postmodernist operating by the "numbers" when you can't win an argument with fact or logic or even a modicum of integrity, you resort to accusations of racism, as your ideology demands. So typical; so damn predictable.

And just like a good postmodernist operating by the "numbers" when you can't win an argument with fact or logic or even a modicum of integrity, you resort to accusations of racism, as your ideology demands. So typical; so damn predictable.

Are you ignorant of logical connection between Capitalism and slavery?

The Clear Connection Between Slavery And American Capitalism

This may come as a surprise to you, but both slavery and capitalism are way older than America.

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This may come as a surprise to you, but both slavery and capitalism are way older than America.

So are the wheel and double-entry bookkeeping.
US capitalists are still benefiting from a century of free labor in the antebellum South.

The Clear Connection Between Slavery And American Capitalism

"Contrary to popular belief, the small farmers of New England weren’t alone responsible for establishing America’s economic position as capitalism expanded.

"Rather, the hard labor of slaves in places like Alabama, South Carolina, and Mississippi needs to be kept in view as well.

"In fact, more than half of the nation’s exports in the first six decades of the 19th century consisted of raw cotton, almost all of it grown by slaves, according to the book, which was edited by Sven Beckert, the Laird Bell Professor of History at Harvard University and visiting professor at HBS, as well as Seth Rockman, Associate Professor of History at Brown University.

"The slave economy of the southern states had ripple effects throughout the entire U.S. economy, with plenty of merchants in New York City, Boston, and elsewhere helping to organize the trade of slave-grown agricultural commodities—and enjoying plenty of riches as a result.

"'In the decades between the American Revolution and the Civil War, slavery—as a source of the cotton that fed Rhode Island’s mills, as a source of the wealth that filled New York’s banks, as a source of the markets that inspired Massachusetts manufacturers—proved indispensable to national economic development,' Beckert and Rockman write in the introduction to the book. '… Cotton offered a reason for entrepreneurs and inventors to build manufactories in such places as Lowell, Pawtucket, and Paterson, thereby connecting New England’s Industrial Revolution to the advancing plantation frontier of the Deep South. And financing cotton growing, as well as marketing and transporting the crop, was a source of great wealth for the nation’s merchants and banks.'"

Any economic benefit the US received from slavery was destroyed many times over by the Civil War. Slavery retarded the industrial development of the South.

Any economic benefit the US received from slavery was destroyed many times over by the Civil War. Slavery retarded the industrial development of the South

What about the industrial/financial development of the North, East, and West?

The Clear Connection Between Slavery And American Capitalism

"The slave economy of the southern states had ripple effects throughout the entire U.S. economy, with plenty of merchants in New York City, Boston, and elsewhere helping to organize the trade of slave-grown agricultural commodities—and enjoying plenty of riches as a result.

"'In the decades between the American Revolution and the Civil War, slavery—as a source of the cotton that fed Rhode Island’s mills, as a source of the wealth that filled New York’s banks, as a source of the markets that inspired Massachusetts manufacturers—proved indispensable to national economic development,'"

 

[francoHFW]

. Here you let the greedy idiot GOP rich get away with murder and you don't know what is actually going on, you believe their garbage propaganda.

No, here in the USA, the DemoRATS let the Democrat campaign donors get away with Pedophilia and Child Sex Slavery, as the billionaire demoRAT Jeffrey Epstein.

We also let rich DemoRATS get away with smashing government hard drives and cell phones to hide 30,000 emails as in Hillary Clinton.

We also let other rich Demorats like Weinstien get away with rape.

When you call others "greedy idiots", you describe yourself and the insane jealousy misdirected at the wrong people.

More phony scandals about Democrats -Epstein is an a****** of course. Those 30,000 emails are her private emails as decided upon by several lawyers, there is no scandal at all. And no she is not a pedophile murderer. And no there is no conspiracy. Right-wing brainwashed idiocy. The whole world of Journalism and law enforcement thinks you are nuts.

The greedy idiot Rich are those who have cut their own taxes to the point where they pay the same percentage as you do, super dupe, if you count all taxes. Google the only tax graph you need to know. You know all these phony scandals, not that the rich Republicans are screwing the hell out of you and the country dumbass doop.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Norway's upper education is free.

In fact, Americans can go to college in Norway for free. They even have courses taught in English where you can earn a PhD.

For free.

And they didn't turn into Venezuela!

Moving the goal posts again, eh you fat loser. So Americans should move to Norway to go to school? You’re a moron. I never mentioned Venezuela. Why do you keep mentioning that? Fat and stupid is no way to go through life. And you assume that travel and living in Norway would be free too? Idiot.

Hey dumbshit, tell me what a guy like Bernie is asking for us to do that will turn us into Venezuela that isn't already happening in Scandinavia.

Bernie wants free upper education and free healthcare. That's it. And fuckwits like you scream "VENZWAILA ZOMG!" at the very idea.

Free PUBLIC college and training, brainwashed functional moron. Like we had before Reagan.

I was Not born then. You dysfunctional idiot. Luckily you’re old and won’t be around much longer.

Too bad you know nothing but the brainwash, hater dupe.

You mean don’t know anything? Why do you assault the English language? You illiterate buffoon.

 

[francoHFW]

and Medicaid expansion was the best thing that ever happened to the poor working class and the poor.

Wrong again, the best thing that happened to thw Working Class as well as the poor is the Trump tax cut and Trump ending the Obama $1200 penalty tax on those without health insurance.

The worst thing that happened to the poor is the DemoRATS sending our jobs overseas and making rules and regulations to keep jobs out of the USA.

The best thing to happen to the poor, the lowest unemployment rates in history. Nothing the DemoRATs do ends poverty. It is said DemoRATs require the poor to be poor, so that they DemoRATs can manage the poor's poverty.

people who earn less than $1,400 a year get free Medicaid except in a****** red States, dupe. And the working class pay less than $100 if they make more than that. Of course you know nothing factual, super duper. And it is supposed to be added onto to cut costs.

 

[Yarddog]

Scandinavian countries are homogenous in race and taught to work to contribute to the social safety net from birth.

Not entitled taking from the safety net provided by the working hands of others as in this country.

He cant figure that out

 

[francoHFW]

The Republican Party never supported slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, or Affirmative Action.

The Democrat Party did.

Why can't the Democrat Party simply support EQUALITY UNDER LAW, which the Democrat Party

HAS NEVER DONE.

The Democratic party has always been the better party, even when they included a****** southern conservatives. Now of course there's no question since all the assholes southern conservatives are Republicans. They were only Democrats because they hated Abraham Lincoln and ending slavery, the swine. But they were for helping the working Man except when they were black LOL.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism only works in countries that don't know what true freedoms and liberties are they have lived under tyrannical rule by kings and dictators for so long its in their DNA to be controlled and told what to do they are distended to be dependents they know nothing else

All socialism does is cause dependency it solves nothing all it causes is a two class system those that are dependent and those they or dependent on
but hey thats what Europeans are accustom too lived like that for thousands of years its in their DNA the dependent surfs and the lords they become dependent on just the lords have been replaced by government the elitist socialist

You can vote your way into socialism.

But you have to shoot your way out.

Problem is, the socialist masters always take away the guns from the proles.

you're talking about communism which has never been put in except through violent revolution, and nobody is for unless they have a gun to their head in China Cuba and North Korea. You are ridiculous.

 

[francoHFW]

Scandinavian countries are homogenous in race and taught to work to contribute to the social safety net from birth.

Not entitled taking from the safety net provided by the working hands of others as in this country.

He cant figure that out

We used to call them the unfortunate until Ronald Reagan came along and told you they're all lazy scum. You're beautiful enjoy hell

 

[daveman]

Socialism only works in countries that don't know what true freedoms and liberties are they have lived under tyrannical rule by kings and dictators for so long its in their DNA to be controlled and told what to do they are distended to be dependents they know nothing else

All socialism does is cause dependency it solves nothing all it causes is a two class system those that are dependent and those they or dependent on
but hey thats what Europeans are accustom too lived like that for thousands of years its in their DNA the dependent surfs and the lords they become dependent on just the lords have been replaced by government the elitist socialist

Actually they don't take any crap from their masters like you people do. They demand the benefits they deserve and they demand that the rich pay their fair share. Here you let the greedy idiot GOP rich get away with murder and you don't know what is actually going on, you believe their garbage propaganda.

ok then you are saying Europeans demanded to be dependents like children relying on the mothers and farther to take care of them because they aren't capable to do it them selves they don't know how

see you just proven my point your proud of being a dependent so proud you demand dependency

see here in the US we try not to be dependent on others we want to be self dependent we try to take are of our own selves

Absolute right-wing idiocy.keep voting against yourself and your family and friends, brainwashed functional moron perfect chump of the greedy idiot Rich GOP...

"...keep voting against yourself and your family and friends..."

I'm a white Christian conservative veteran who supports the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The Democratic Party hates me.

Why would I vote for candidates that hate me? Why would I vote for candidates that want to take stuff away from me and give it to people who didn't earn it?

If you're going to respond with your usual "GOP propaganda dupe" bullshit, save it. That song is as boring as shit.

They hate your brainwash. Not you. And any intolerance racism or bigotry you may be talked into...

Yes, that's why they physically attack people like me. Because they don't hate me personally.

You're a dumbass.