Republicans are ALWAYS wrong!

[Dirk the Daring]

When advised that the government was cooking the books to show #s not being reflected elsewhere,

Sure, it couldn't possibly be the #s reflected elsewhere are cooked.

You're right, they could. But that's when a little common sense enters the picture.

For example, Obama is out touting the 5.1% unemployment rate, meanwhile no one is talking about the Labor force participation rate. Why? Well, answer this; would you rather have 5.1% of one dollar, or 5.1% of one million dollars? That's the difference. So yes, the 5.1% figure looks good, but about 2-3 seconds of actual digging indicate that it's not.

Also consider how this administration views job 'creation.' Using their metrics, if I get laid off from my six figure management level position, and after a year of fruitlessly searching for something else, I accept two minimum wage level jobs just to have *something* - well that's a job creation success! Obama has literally 'created' two jobs where previously only one existed.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Under Obama, the three years of economic growth from the bottom of the recession... unemployment dropped by only 1.8 points,

UE was 10.0% at the bottom of the Bush Depression and is 5.1% now, a drop of 4.9% and falling.

Workforce Participation rate is at a 38 year low, at 62.6%. 94 million Americans not counted in the work force for the first time in US history. 46+ million Americans on food stamps.

But no, you're right, the economy is doing great...

Called demographics dummy. Baby boomers want to leave the workforce

Already refuted IN THIS THREAD. Next.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Fuck off and die dickhead, I said Jan 2009 and provided a BLS link to back it up. So just take your ignorance and arrogance and shove it up your ass!!!!!!

SORRY DUMBFUK, YOU PROVIDED 2 SEPARATE THINGS FOR THE DATES WEIRD YOU DON'T KNOW THAT?


I PROVIDED THE BLS LINK WITH THE TOTAL PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYMENT BUBS, YOU WANT JAN EVEN THOUGH DUBYA WAS PREZ UNTIL JAN 20TH?? LOL

Put in ANY date you want dumbfuk, it will bring it up, lol

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Well twink, I used the first credible links that had the dates I was looking for. Also my original contention was there are fewer working today than when your dear leader took office, that would be Jan 2009. Try actually reading the complete string before you continue to make a total ass out of yourself.

FIRST CREDIBLE LINKS, BUT WERE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS??? lol

Total private JAN 2009
111,398,000

Total Private Aug 2015

120,293,000


YOU WERE SAYING DUMBFUK?




Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

When advised that the government was cooking the books to show #s not being reflected elsewhere, Dad2three instinctively runs to the ACTUAL GOV'T PROVIDED #s, say's 'look, there's nothing wrong with these #s, they're right here!?! You stupid head!'

Sorry, I forgot I was supposed to use some right wing bullshit created in the basement of Glenn Beck's followers right? NOT the same data used for generations *shaking head*

'Generations!' LOLarious...

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Retirement Among Baby Boomers Contributing To Shrinking Labor Force.

there ya go idiot; from your own source above

that DOESNT ACCOUNT FOR WORKING-AGE AMERICANS NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE LABOR FORCE

try again idiot

Dang. It's always delightful to use one's own post against them...

 

[Dad2three]

59.4 million is a mere pittance compared to Obama care at 2 Trillion in 10 years and the loss of 2.5 million jobs.
Then there is the deficit The CBO estimates that budget deficits will increase by $7.3 trillion over the next 10 years.
Yes this thing needs to be repealed and a better one put in place that works for everyone, not just the few.
CBO: Obamacare cost hits $2 trillion, law to reduce labor force by 2.5 million | United Liberty | Free Market - Individual Liberty - Limited Government

That is a Cato Institute propaganda site

So?
It is still the numbers from the Gov. CBO

You'd think IF they were REALLY using CBO numbers rather than just partial, distorted numbers, they would do better of linking WHERE it came from on the CBO numbers right Bubba?

LIKE THIS:

CBO and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation estimate that, over the next decade, a repeal of the Affordable Care Act would probably increase budget deficits with or without considering the effects of macroeconomic feedback.


Including the budgetary effects of macroeconomic feedback, repealing the ACA would increase federal budget deficits by $137 billion over the 2016–2025 period. That estimate takes into account the proposal’s impact on federal revenues and direct (or mandatory) spending, incorporating the net effects of two components:

• Excluding the effects of macroeconomic feedback—as has been done for previous estimates related to the ACA (and most other CBO cost estimates)—CBO and JCT estimate that federal deficits would increase by $353 billion over the 2016–2025 period if the ACA was repealed.

Budgetary and Economic Effects of Repealing the Affordable Care Act



ACA COSTS 2016-2020 $1.1 TRILLION

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/43900-2015-01-ACAtables.pdf



LOL

 

[Dirk the Daring]

It's no president, it's a wannabe dictator and chicago gutter trash. Thank God we'll be rid of him is 16 months. And sorry you don't like my gender neutral terms, isn't that something you commies are also pushing?

The bigotry and hatred of the right is perfectly represented in this post. Obama was democratically elected twice, he is not a dictator, he is not "gutter trash." He is a Christian man with a loving family who has been doing his best despite people like yourself hating him for being different.

You are right in your last sentence.

Your overgeneralizations and your immaturity clearly shine through in the rest.

GWB was a dumbass....but he was POTUS. The left didn't treat him any better.

Do two wrongs make a right.

No.

Both sides are wrong.

My immaturity? Directly quoting Texas his my immaturity? I've already admitted I'm 6 years old, so i guess you're right. The left did not call GWB a dictator, a communist, a Marxist, an ape.. They didn't make up a conspiracy theory about his birth..

Google found this in 0.47 seconds, how has it taken you 7 years?

B/c unlike most liberals apparently, I understand that the internet exists...

Hail to the chimp!

Like Obama, Critics Compared Bush To A Monkey

Do I really need to continue?

How do you know those are from the Left, and not from teabaggers and Libertarians who also thought Bush was an incompetent big spender?

 

[Dad2three]

what can be gleaned from YOUR graph leftard????


lmao!
spending SKYROCKETED in Bush's last two years when Dems held BOTH CHAMBERS OF
CONGRESS AND........................

OBAMA spending is ABOVE Bush's spending AND

obama spending is PROJECTED TO RISE on account of obama in the years AFTER he leaves office

idiots and hypocrites

YEP DUBYA'S POLICIES DIDN'T POP THE BUBBLE TILL 2007. Weird right?

How about ONE law the Dems passed that caused the spending inferno 2007-2009 dummy?

Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”

Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."





Bush’s Press Release entitled "A Home of Your Own EXPANDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL AMERICANS, PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH JUNE 2002" regarding his "America’s Homeownership Challenge


The Bush Administration through HUD, also required Fannie and Fredde to give a higher percentage of their loans to loan-income and minorities that otherwise would not qualify for the loans.



That's why I've challenged the industry leaders all across the country to get after it for this goal, to stay focused, to make sure that we achieve a more secure America, by achieving the goal of 5.5 million new minority home owners. I call it America's home ownership challenge.
And let me talk about some of the progress which we have made to date, as an example for others to follow. First of all, government sponsored corporations that help create our mortgage system -- I introduced two of the leaders here today -- they call those people Fannie May and Freddie Mac, as well as the federal home loan banks, will increase their commitment to minority markets by more than $440 billion. (Applause.) I want to thank Leland and Franklin for that commitment. It's a commitment that conforms to their charters, as well, and also conforms to their hearts.

(From White House Speech archives – "President calls for Expanding Opportunities to Homeowners" at St. Paul AME Church in Atlanta, Georgia).



The Blueprint for the American Dream that we unveiled today is the response to the `homeownership challenge' President Bush issued in June to increase minority homeownership," said HUD Secretary Mel Martinez. "Our partners, representing every segment of the affordable housing industry, are committed to working together to achieve the President's goal of adding 5.5 million new minority homeowners by the end of the decade."

In his February State of the Union address President Bush called for "broader homeownership, especially among minorities." In June, President Bush challenged both the public and private sector to be a partner in his crusade to create 5.5 million new minority homeowners by the end of the decade.

Fannie Mae responded by committing $700 billion in home financing to 4.6 million minority households through 2009. This increases by 66 percent the specific pledge Fannie Mae made in 2000 to minority families through it's American Dream Commitment plan to provide $420 billion for three million minority families. (quotes from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in Business Wire "President Bush’s Nationwide Effort to Increase Minority Homeownership" – October 15, 2002)



Bush also pushed and passed a "Zero-down Payment" initiative.

BUSH ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES NEW HUD "ZERO DOWN PAYMENT" MORTGAGE Initiative Aimed at Removing Major Barrier to Homeownership
LAS VEGAS - As part of President Bush's ongoing effort to help American families achieve the dream of homeownership, Federal Housing Commissioner John C. Weicher today announced that HUD is proposing to offer a "zero down payment" mortgage, the most significant initiative by the Federal Housing Administration in over a decade. This action would help remove the greatest barrier facing first-time homebuyers - the lack of funds for a down payment on a mortgage.

Speaking at the National Association of Home Builders' annual convention, Commissioner Weicher indicated that the proposal, part of HUD's Fiscal Year 2005 budget request, would eliminate the statutory requirement of a minimum three percent down payment for FHA-insured single-family mortgages for first-time homebuyers.

"Offering FHA mortgages with no down payment will unlock the door to homeownership for hundreds of thousands of American families, particularly minorities," said HUD's Acting Secretary Alphonso Jackson. "President Bush has pledged to create 5.5 million new minority homeowners this decade, and this historic initiative will help meet this goal."
Preliminary projections indicate that the new FHA mortgage product would generate about 150,000 homebuyers in the first year alone.
"This initiative would not only address a major hurdle to homeownership and allow many renters to afford their own home, it would help these families build wealth and become true stakeholders in their communities," said Commissioner Weicher. "In addition, it would help spur the production of new housing in this country."

The Administration, through HUD, further forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to offer riskier 3, 5, and 7 year arm loan products to low income and minorities.

BUSH ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES NEW ADJUSTABLE-RATE MORTGAGE PRODUCTS TO ENHANCE HOMEBUYING OPPORTUNITIES

40,000 More Families (PER YEAR) Expected To Benefit From New Offerings

WASHINGTON – The Department of Housing and Urban Development is proposing to enhance homebuying opportunities by expanding its offerings of adjustable-rate mortgage (ARM) products on FHA-insured mortgages. Potential homebuyers would be able to choose mortgages with periods of three, five, seven or ten years, depending on their needs, during which time the interest rate would be fixed. "By offering additional types of FHA-insured ARMs tailored to the financial conditions and desires of the borrowers, we are creating more homeownership opportunities," said HUD Secretary Mel Martinez today in a speech to America’s Community Bankers. "We estimate that as many as 40,000 families a year will choose these new adjustable-rate mortgages as their way of financing their home purchase."

(HUD Press Release).

Bush and the Republican Congress forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make zero-down loans and adjustable rate 3, 5, and 7 year arms to the riskiest buyers. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were forced to effectively finance 103 percent of the mortgage (including closing costs).

The Administration often pointed to the huge increase in housing as one of its greatest successes.

[The Administration has] Helped Americans buy homes, expanding the homeownership rate to nearly 70 percent and the minority homeownership rate to over 51 percent nationwide. With approximately three million minorities owning a home for the first time, the Nation now has the highest minority homeownership rate in its history. Furthermore, the Administration is ahead of schedule in achieving the Presidential goal of adding 5.5 million new minority homeowners by 2010.


FACTS on Dubya's great recession | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Dad2three]

Nope. Not based on a few people who show up at a rally. Based on the actual republican platform.

16 Wacky Ideas In The Texas Republican Party’s New Platform

1) Pornography Should Be Treated Just Like Cocaine

2) Social Security Should Be Phased Out

3) Texas Should Veto Federal Laws

4) Americans Should Not Be Allowed To Choose Their Own Senators

5) The Problem With America’s Schools Is That They Have Too Much Money
According to the Texas GOP, “ince data is clear that additional money does not translate into educational achievement, and higher education costs are out of control, we support reducing taxpayer funding to all levels of education institutions.”

6) All Federal Agencies Should Be Rendered Impotent


7) Climate Change Is A Myth


8) Congress Must Act Now To Prevent America From Becoming A Muslim Caliphate


9) God Hates Gay People, And Their Bosses Should Be Allowed To Fire Them For Being Gay

10) Gayness Can Be Cured

11) The Voting Rights Act Should Be Repealed


16 Wacky Ideas In The Texas Republican Party’s New Platform






The Silliest, Most Terrifying Things in the Republican Platform


We condemn the hate campaigns, threats of violence, and vandalism by proponents of same-sex marriage against advocates of traditional marriage and call for a federal investigation into attempts to deny religious believers their civil rights.


I wonder if Republican operatives have a name for the tactic where they accuse other people of doing exactly what they themselves are doing. It’s pretty much their go-to move—here, they take the decades of oppression and hate gay people have suffered and turn it around so that forcing people to grant equal rights to homosexuals is akin to denying civil rights. If you feel a twinge of conscience writing this stuff, you’re not ready to be a Republican operative. If you feel bile rising in your throat reading it, you're not ready to read the rest of this platform.

Conservation is a conservative value. […] Congress should reconsider whether parts of the federal government’s enormous landholdings and control of water in the West could be better used for ranching, mining, or forestry through private ownership.

Opening national parks and public land to logging and mining is the opposite of conservation. So that’s probably just a typo.

By uniting our government and our citizens, our foreign policy will secure freedom, keep America safe, and ensure that we remain the “last best hope on Earth.”

That last bit is in quotes because it’s a line from a message Abraham Lincoln sent to Congress before signing the Emancipation Proclamation. But I think in context here, “last best hope on Earth” means that the Republicans want to make sure that in the event of an alien invasion, the US military is humanity’s best hope for survival. Pretty badass of them to put that in the platform.

As a matter of principle, we oppose the creation of any new race-based governments within the United States.

Um, is the GOP coming out against weird racially homogenous enclaves that govern themselves? Like a commune of Filipinos that rejects US law and murders non-Filipinos who trespass on their territory? I guess that sort of thing should be stopped, if it’s happening—but maybe the word “new” means that they’re cool with the currently-existing race-based governments in the US, but there’s not room for one more.

The effectiveness of our foreign aid has been limited by the cultural agenda of the current Administration, attempting to impose on foreign countries, especially the peoples of Africa, legalized abortion and the homosexual rights agenda.

Another one that is just straight-up confusing. We’re exporting “homosexual rights” to Africa?


The Silliest, Most Terrifying Things in the Republican Platform | VICE | United States

And the racist part is where?

THE REBEL FLAG DUMMY!

Funny, I didn't see it or a mention of it in you BS made up link.

BTW, this is a link to their real platform.

http://www.texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-Platform-Final.pdf

BUBBA, MY LINK GAVE A LINK TO THAT, AND THIS:


Note: A previous version of this post reported that some 198 amendments were folded into the final platform, based on information from a spokesman for the Texas Republican Parry (that also was the rationale provided for long delay in releasing the final platform). The spokesman on Wednesday said he erred, and the almost 200 amendments were thrown out after delegates voted to end debate on the platform
Texas GOP releases platform, at last - Texas Politics



YOUR LINK DUMMY


PRESERVING AMERICAN FREEDOM LIMITING THE EXPANSE
OF GOVERNMENT POWER\

Reaffirm Texas Sovereignty as Reserved Under the 10th Amendment, United States Constitution
-
We strongly urge the Texas Legislature ignore, oppose, refuse, and nullify any federal mandated legislation which infringes upon the states 10th Amendment Right. All federal enforcement activities in Texas must be conducted under the auspices of the county sheriff withjurisdiction in that county.



LMAOROG



Opposition to Socialism

Socialism breeds mediocrity. America is exceptional. Therefore, the Republican Party of Texas opposes socialismin all of its forms.

THEE GO THOSE PUBL;IC ROADS, SCHOOLS, POLICE AND FIRE DEPTS, ETC RIGHT BUBBA? lol

 

[Dad2three]

So, now all the anecdotes of people who've had miserable experiences become relevant ?

16 Million Fewer Uninsured Thanks To Obamacare


Thanks, Obamacare: America's Uninsured Rate Is Below 10% For First Time Ever


For the first time in more than 50 years of surveys, the CDC on Wednesday reported that more than 90% of Americans — 90.8% of us, to be specific — have health insurance.

Until now, no major survey had ever found that the uninsured rate in America has hit single digits.


Thanks, Obamacare: America's Uninsured Rate Is Below 10% For First Time Ever

 

[Dad2three]

what a joke this loser is!! the Left wipes their asses with $54 million in taxpayer money.
from "shovel-ready wasnt so shovel-ready" to the $20 BILLION or so doled out to "green" start-ups run by obama's corporate fatcat donors that failed to produce jobs. and if you want you can throw in the hundreds of billions Dems voted for the war they said was "based on lies" they didnt have the balls or the wills to "de-fund" like they promised

Does not look very good for Obama. His first four years are pathetic compared to Boooooshhhh's.

And I really disliked Bush.

When Dubya put EVERYTHING on the credit card and started his 'home ownership ponzi" scheme? THEN what happened Bubba?,

 

[Dad2three]

what a joke this loser is!! the Left wipes their asses with $54 million in taxpayer money.
from "shovel-ready wasnt so shovel-ready" to the $20 BILLION or so doled out to "green" start-ups run by obama's corporate fatcat donors that failed to produce jobs. and if you want you can throw in the hundreds of billions Dems voted for the war they said was "based on lies" they didnt have the balls or the wills to "de-fund" like they promised

LOOK AT THIS IDIOT'S CHART!!!



ANOTHER LEFT-WING MORON THAT DIDNT BOTHER TO INSPECT HIS OWN CHART; OR THINKS NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT HE ISNT SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


notice the ENORMOUS SPIKE IN BUDGET DEFICITS IN THE LAST TWO BUSH YEARS???????????????
NOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THOSE YEARS?????????????????

OH YEA DEMOCRATS WROTE THOSE BUDGETS


idiots and hypocrites

This is why sane folks laugh at idiot conservatives.

The enormous spike in the deficit was due the Great Recession...

Well to be fair, the start of it was in 2002, after Dubya/GOP gutted tax revenues AS they went to war!

 

[Dad2three]

When advised that the government was cooking the books to show #s not being reflected elsewhere,

Sure, it couldn't possibly be the #s reflected elsewhere are cooked.

You're right, they could. But that's when a little common sense enters the picture.

For example, Obama is out touting the 5.1% unemployment rate, meanwhile no one is talking about the Labor force participation rate. Why? Well, answer this; would you rather have 5.1% of one dollar, or 5.1% of one million dollars? That's the difference. So yes, the 5.1% figure looks good, but about 2-3 seconds of actual digging indicate that it's not.

Also consider how this administration views job 'creation.' Using their metrics, if I get laid off from my six figure management level position, and after a year of fruitlessly searching for something else, I accept two minimum wage level jobs just to have *something* - well that's a job creation success! Obama has literally 'created' two jobs where previously only one existed.

ALL THIS CRAP AFTER 8 YEARS OF DUBYA/GOP "JOB CREATOR" POLICIES LOST OVER 1+ MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS IN 8 YEARS? seriously? lol

Republicans Have Found a New Way to Attack the Obama Economy. Americans Won't Buy It.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120826/gop-wrongly-blames-labor-force-participation-rate-obama


The Misleading BLS Graph
In addition to the confusion on the right about what the participation rate represents, the way that BLS presents the data visually adds to the misunderstanding:

That data is accurate of course, and it is the same data I use to create my graph below. However, in addition to the oddities of the way the rate itself is determined, the graph shows only a narrow range of the vertical axis giving the impression that we are about to run out of participating workers entirely when we hit the bottom, and it only covers the date range during which the rate has been falling so people seeing it miss that the rate is still actually much higher than it has been for most of the previous decades.





A More Meaningful Presentation of the Same Data
The graph below addresses the issues identified above to come up with a clearer representation of the same data. I separate out students from other non-participating people and I group together discouraged workers and unemployed people and split them out too. I also display the data going back to 1948 and I show the whole range from 0% to 100% instead of just 5% of the range. With those straightforward changes, here is the resulting graph:

Labor Force Participation Rate

 

[Dad2three]

Under Obama, the three years of economic growth from the bottom of the recession... unemployment dropped by only 1.8 points,

UE was 10.0% at the bottom of the Bush Depression and is 5.1% now, a drop of 4.9% and falling.

Workforce Participation rate is at a 38 year low, at 62.6%. 94 million Americans not counted in the work force for the first time in US history. 46+ million Americans on food stamps.

But no, you're right, the economy is doing great...

Called demographics dummy. Baby boomers want to leave the workforce

Already refuted IN THIS THREAD. Next.

Sure Bubba, sure. Try to grow a brain, or borrow one that actually works K?

 

[Dad2three]

SORRY DUMBFUK, YOU PROVIDED 2 SEPARATE THINGS FOR THE DATES WEIRD YOU DON'T KNOW THAT?


I PROVIDED THE BLS LINK WITH THE TOTAL PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYMENT BUBS, YOU WANT JAN EVEN THOUGH DUBYA WAS PREZ UNTIL JAN 20TH?? LOL

Put in ANY date you want dumbfuk, it will bring it up, lol

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Well twink, I used the first credible links that had the dates I was looking for. Also my original contention was there are fewer working today than when your dear leader took office, that would be Jan 2009. Try actually reading the complete string before you continue to make a total ass out of yourself.

FIRST CREDIBLE LINKS, BUT WERE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS??? lol

Total private JAN 2009
111,398,000

Total Private Aug 2015

120,293,000


YOU WERE SAYING DUMBFUK?




Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

When advised that the government was cooking the books to show #s not being reflected elsewhere, Dad2three instinctively runs to the ACTUAL GOV'T PROVIDED #s, say's 'look, there's nothing wrong with these #s, they're right here!?! You stupid head!'

Sorry, I forgot I was supposed to use some right wing bullshit created in the basement of Glenn Beck's followers right? NOT the same data used for generations *shaking head*

'Generations!' LOLarious...

So no you can't refute FACTUAL info. I'm shocked, you must support the party of stupid

 

[OKTexas]

16 Wacky Ideas In The Texas Republican Party’s New Platform

1) Pornography Should Be Treated Just Like Cocaine

2) Social Security Should Be Phased Out

3) Texas Should Veto Federal Laws

4) Americans Should Not Be Allowed To Choose Their Own Senators

5) The Problem With America’s Schools Is That They Have Too Much Money
According to the Texas GOP, “ince data is clear that additional money does not translate into educational achievement, and higher education costs are out of control, we support reducing taxpayer funding to all levels of education institutions.”

6) All Federal Agencies Should Be Rendered Impotent


7) Climate Change Is A Myth


8) Congress Must Act Now To Prevent America From Becoming A Muslim Caliphate


9) God Hates Gay People, And Their Bosses Should Be Allowed To Fire Them For Being Gay

10) Gayness Can Be Cured

11) The Voting Rights Act Should Be Repealed


16 Wacky Ideas In The Texas Republican Party’s New Platform






The Silliest, Most Terrifying Things in the Republican Platform


We condemn the hate campaigns, threats of violence, and vandalism by proponents of same-sex marriage against advocates of traditional marriage and call for a federal investigation into attempts to deny religious believers their civil rights.


I wonder if Republican operatives have a name for the tactic where they accuse other people of doing exactly what they themselves are doing. It’s pretty much their go-to move—here, they take the decades of oppression and hate gay people have suffered and turn it around so that forcing people to grant equal rights to homosexuals is akin to denying civil rights. If you feel a twinge of conscience writing this stuff, you’re not ready to be a Republican operative. If you feel bile rising in your throat reading it, you're not ready to read the rest of this platform.

Conservation is a conservative value. […] Congress should reconsider whether parts of the federal government’s enormous landholdings and control of water in the West could be better used for ranching, mining, or forestry through private ownership.

Opening national parks and public land to logging and mining is the opposite of conservation. So that’s probably just a typo.

By uniting our government and our citizens, our foreign policy will secure freedom, keep America safe, and ensure that we remain the “last best hope on Earth.”

That last bit is in quotes because it’s a line from a message Abraham Lincoln sent to Congress before signing the Emancipation Proclamation. But I think in context here, “last best hope on Earth” means that the Republicans want to make sure that in the event of an alien invasion, the US military is humanity’s best hope for survival. Pretty badass of them to put that in the platform.

As a matter of principle, we oppose the creation of any new race-based governments within the United States.

Um, is the GOP coming out against weird racially homogenous enclaves that govern themselves? Like a commune of Filipinos that rejects US law and murders non-Filipinos who trespass on their territory? I guess that sort of thing should be stopped, if it’s happening—but maybe the word “new” means that they’re cool with the currently-existing race-based governments in the US, but there’s not room for one more.

The effectiveness of our foreign aid has been limited by the cultural agenda of the current Administration, attempting to impose on foreign countries, especially the peoples of Africa, legalized abortion and the homosexual rights agenda.

Another one that is just straight-up confusing. We’re exporting “homosexual rights” to Africa?


The Silliest, Most Terrifying Things in the Republican Platform | VICE | United States

And the racist part is where?

THE REBEL FLAG DUMMY!

Funny, I didn't see it or a mention of it in you BS made up link.

BTW, this is a link to their real platform.

http://www.texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-Platform-Final.pdf

BUBBA, MY LINK GAVE A LINK TO THAT, AND THIS:


Note: A previous version of this post reported that some 198 amendments were folded into the final platform, based on information from a spokesman for the Texas Republican Parry (that also was the rationale provided for long delay in releasing the final platform). The spokesman on Wednesday said he erred, and the almost 200 amendments were thrown out after delegates voted to end debate on the platform
Texas GOP releases platform, at last - Texas Politics



YOUR LINK DUMMY


PRESERVING AMERICAN FREEDOM LIMITING THE EXPANSE
OF GOVERNMENT POWER\

Reaffirm Texas Sovereignty as Reserved Under the 10th Amendment, United States Constitution
-
We strongly urge the Texas Legislature ignore, oppose, refuse, and nullify any federal mandated legislation which infringes upon the states 10th Amendment Right. All federal enforcement activities in Texas must be conducted under the auspices of the county sheriff withjurisdiction in that county.



LMAOROG



Opposition to Socialism

Socialism breeds mediocrity. America is exceptional. Therefore, the Republican Party of Texas opposes socialismin all of its forms.

THEE GO THOSE PUBL;IC ROADS, SCHOOLS, POLICE AND FIRE DEPTS, ETC RIGHT BUBBA? lol

So tell me, what wrong with the things you put in bold?

 

[Dad2three]

16 Wacky Ideas In The Texas Republican Party’s New Platform

1) Pornography Should Be Treated Just Like Cocaine

2) Social Security Should Be Phased Out

3) Texas Should Veto Federal Laws

4) Americans Should Not Be Allowed To Choose Their Own Senators

5) The Problem With America’s Schools Is That They Have Too Much Money
According to the Texas GOP, “ince data is clear that additional money does not translate into educational achievement, and higher education costs are out of control, we support reducing taxpayer funding to all levels of education institutions.”

6) All Federal Agencies Should Be Rendered Impotent


7) Climate Change Is A Myth


8) Congress Must Act Now To Prevent America From Becoming A Muslim Caliphate


9) God Hates Gay People, And Their Bosses Should Be Allowed To Fire Them For Being Gay

10) Gayness Can Be Cured

11) The Voting Rights Act Should Be Repealed


16 Wacky Ideas In The Texas Republican Party’s New Platform






The Silliest, Most Terrifying Things in the Republican Platform


We condemn the hate campaigns, threats of violence, and vandalism by proponents of same-sex marriage against advocates of traditional marriage and call for a federal investigation into attempts to deny religious believers their civil rights.


I wonder if Republican operatives have a name for the tactic where they accuse other people of doing exactly what they themselves are doing. It’s pretty much their go-to move—here, they take the decades of oppression and hate gay people have suffered and turn it around so that forcing people to grant equal rights to homosexuals is akin to denying civil rights. If you feel a twinge of conscience writing this stuff, you’re not ready to be a Republican operative. If you feel bile rising in your throat reading it, you're not ready to read the rest of this platform.

Conservation is a conservative value. […] Congress should reconsider whether parts of the federal government’s enormous landholdings and control of water in the West could be better used for ranching, mining, or forestry through private ownership.

Opening national parks and public land to logging and mining is the opposite of conservation. So that’s probably just a typo.

By uniting our government and our citizens, our foreign policy will secure freedom, keep America safe, and ensure that we remain the “last best hope on Earth.”

That last bit is in quotes because it’s a line from a message Abraham Lincoln sent to Congress before signing the Emancipation Proclamation. But I think in context here, “last best hope on Earth” means that the Republicans want to make sure that in the event of an alien invasion, the US military is humanity’s best hope for survival. Pretty badass of them to put that in the platform.

As a matter of principle, we oppose the creation of any new race-based governments within the United States.

Um, is the GOP coming out against weird racially homogenous enclaves that govern themselves? Like a commune of Filipinos that rejects US law and murders non-Filipinos who trespass on their territory? I guess that sort of thing should be stopped, if it’s happening—but maybe the word “new” means that they’re cool with the currently-existing race-based governments in the US, but there’s not room for one more.

The effectiveness of our foreign aid has been limited by the cultural agenda of the current Administration, attempting to impose on foreign countries, especially the peoples of Africa, legalized abortion and the homosexual rights agenda.

Another one that is just straight-up confusing. We’re exporting “homosexual rights” to Africa?


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And the racist part is where?

THE REBEL FLAG DUMMY!

Funny, I didn't see it or a mention of it in you BS made up link.

BTW, this is a link to their real platform.

http://www.texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-Platform-Final.pdf

BUBBA, MY LINK GAVE A LINK TO THAT, AND THIS:


Note: A previous version of this post reported that some 198 amendments were folded into the final platform, based on information from a spokesman for the Texas Republican Parry (that also was the rationale provided for long delay in releasing the final platform). The spokesman on Wednesday said he erred, and the almost 200 amendments were thrown out after delegates voted to end debate on the platform
Texas GOP releases platform, at last - Texas Politics



YOUR LINK DUMMY


PRESERVING AMERICAN FREEDOM LIMITING THE EXPANSE
OF GOVERNMENT POWER\

Reaffirm Texas Sovereignty as Reserved Under the 10th Amendment, United States Constitution
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We strongly urge the Texas Legislature ignore, oppose, refuse, and nullify any federal mandated legislation which infringes upon the states 10th Amendment Right. All federal enforcement activities in Texas must be conducted under the auspices of the county sheriff withjurisdiction in that county.



LMAOROG



Opposition to Socialism

Socialism breeds mediocrity. America is exceptional. Therefore, the Republican Party of Texas opposes socialismin all of its forms.

THEE GO THOSE PUBL;IC ROADS, SCHOOLS, POLICE AND FIRE DEPTS, ETC RIGHT BUBBA? lol

So tell me, what wrong with the things you put in bold?

IF you must be told that states don't get to pick and choose which federal laws or agencies they get to follow, you must be a Teatard with a rebel flag flying off your trailer Bubba!

Same thing with roads, schools, etc that by definition, ARE socialist!!!

 

[Synthaholic]

The bigotry and hatred of the right is perfectly represented in this post. Obama was democratically elected twice, he is not a dictator, he is not "gutter trash." He is a Christian man with a loving family who has been doing his best despite people like yourself hating him for being different.

You are right in your last sentence.

Your overgeneralizations and your immaturity clearly shine through in the rest.

GWB was a dumbass....but he was POTUS. The left didn't treat him any better.

Do two wrongs make a right.

No.

Both sides are wrong.

My immaturity? Directly quoting Texas his my immaturity? I've already admitted I'm 6 years old, so i guess you're right. The left did not call GWB a dictator, a communist, a Marxist, an ape.. They didn't make up a conspiracy theory about his birth..

Google found this in 0.47 seconds, how has it taken you 7 years?

B/c unlike most liberals apparently, I understand that the internet exists...

Hail to the chimp!

Like Obama, Critics Compared Bush To A Monkey

Do I really need to continue?

How do you know those are from the Left, and not from teabaggers and Libertarians who also thought Bush was an incompetent big spender?

Just as I thought - nothing to say.

 

[Faun]

When advised that the government was cooking the books to show #s not being reflected elsewhere,

Sure, it couldn't possibly be the #s reflected elsewhere are cooked.

You're right, they could. But that's when a little common sense enters the picture.

For example, Obama is out touting the 5.1% unemployment rate, meanwhile no one is talking about the Labor force participation rate. Why? Well, answer this; would you rather have 5.1% of one dollar, or 5.1% of one million dollars? That's the difference. So yes, the 5.1% figure looks good, but about 2-3 seconds of actual digging indicate that it's not.

The reason the labor force participation rate is not discussed is because it's not an indicator of the health of the job market.

Also consider how this administration views job 'creation.' Using their metrics, if I get laid off from my six figure management level position, and after a year of fruitlessly searching for something else, I accept two minimum wage level jobs just to have *something* - well that's a job creation success! Obama has literally 'created' two jobs where previously only one existed.

That is how ALL administrations count jobs. A person is either working or not. Their income is not a factor in the unemployment rate.

 

[Faun]

Under Obama, the three years of economic growth from the bottom of the recession... unemployment dropped by only 1.8 points,

UE was 10.0% at the bottom of the Bush Depression and is 5.1% now, a drop of 4.9% and falling.

Workforce Participation rate is at a 38 year low, at 62.6%. 94 million Americans not counted in the work force for the first time in US history. 46+ million Americans on food stamps.

But no, you're right, the economy is doing great...

Called demographics dummy. Baby boomers want to leave the workforce

Already refuted IN THIS THREAD. Next.

What's refuted?

Almost 7 million people have retired over Obama's first 6 years. 1.2 million per year on average over those 6 years. That's more than double the rate over the previous 6 years as baby boomers began hitting the retirement age of 62 in 2008.

Social Security Beneficiary Statistics

So exactly what do you think was refuted?

 

[edthecynic]

But that's when a little common sense enters the picture.

For example, Obama is out touting the 5.1% unemployment rate, meanwhile no one is talking about the Labor force participation rate. Why? Well, answer this; would you rather have 5.1% of one dollar, or 5.1% of one million dollars? That's the difference. So yes, the 5.1% figure looks good, but about 2-3 seconds of actual digging indicate that it's not.

Again, the LPR falling is due to DEMOGRAPHICS, not economic conditions.

Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.
-Albert Einstein