Republican Salute To Labor

[The Rabbi]

Wow, really?
Minimum wage laws
David Bacon Act
Increased regulations in every industry
Lilly Ledbetter Act
Higher taxes
etc.

If you need an explanation as to how these stymie job growth then you shouldnt be having this discussion.

Obviously, you can't explain how your list of things that help the middle class "stymie every effort." or you wouldn't have written "If you need an explanation as to how these stymie job growth then you shouldnt be having this discussion."

I outlined some goals, you agreed with my goals by saying "Gee Republicans want just that--people working."

What we have now is a system that relies on a percentage of unemployed labor and excess capacity to hold down wage and price increases. Our system pays unemployed workers for not working and allows those workers to depreciate and develop behaviors that act as stumbling blocks to future private-sector employment.

Instead of just whining about stuff that helps the middle class, what's your/Republican plan to shrink entitlements and attain near full-employment? Whining and complaining without a plan to move forward is the unsuccessful, loser Republican/Tea Party way, hopefully, you-----you can explain how you would break that cycle?
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WHat I wrote needs no explanation except for people who will never get it. Like you.
Our system does no such thing. The fact that you havent worked in 10 years shouldnt be applied to everyone else out there.

You're very funny. You somehow want me to explain your list of how Dems are stymieing job growth -giggle-. Mind reading isn't one of my talent - mind reading is more of a rightwing perceiver thing.

But look, I realize many righties believe what they believe just because they believe it, and most lack the communication skills to explain why, without talking themselves out of their own ideology.

Here's an idea for you, we could virtually end unemployment, reduce welfare and shrink almost all other safety net programs to near non-existence if government would hire the unemployed at a wage and benefits package that does not unsettle local wage and price stability. What's your objection to the government hiring the unemployed and pushing unemployment to almost zero?
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I dont want you to do anything of the sort. Any person with even a passing familiarity with basic econ will understand why those things depress job growth and wages. The fact that you do not understand this indicates you shouldnt be taking part in this disucssion. Move along.
Yes we coud reduce unemployment to zero by simply hiring people by the gov't to dig ditches and then fill them in.
The fact that you actually think this is viable indicates you know nothing of economics and should bow out from this discussion.

Via Republican led legislation and Republican judicial appointments Republicans have been winning their war on labor since Richard Nixon was President - a brief interlude the last two years of the Clinton Administration notwithstanding.

When unemployment dips to 4% and below the middle class thrives-----thrives from both higher employment and all benefits employment brings with it and also-----also the employed get paid better for their labor, win-win. High union membership and Government as Employer of Last Resort is good for about 90% of Americans. But don't believe just my take, check out the attached chart below.

Wage growth of the top 1%
The ability of those at the very top to claim an ever-larger share of overall wages is evident in this figure. Two things stand out. First is the extraordinarily rapid growth of annual wages for the top 1 percent compared with everybody else: Top 1 percent wages grew 138 percent, while wages of the bottom 90 percent grew just 15 percent. If the wages of the bottom 90 percent had grown at the average pace over this period—meaning that wages grew equally across-the-board—then the bottom 90 percent’s wages would have grown by 32 percent, more than double the actual growth.

Figure 3
When it comes to the pace of annual pay increases, the top 1% wage grew 138% since 1979, while wages for the bottom 90% grew 15%: Cumulative change in real annual wages, by wage group, 1979–2013

Top 1% Bottom 90%
1979 0.0% 0.0%
1980 3.4% -2.2%
1981 3.1% -2.6%
1982 9.5% -3.9%
1983 13.6% -3.7%
1984 20.7% -1.8%
1985 23.0% -1.0%
1986 32.6% 1.1%
1987 53.5% 2.1%
1988 68.7% 2.2%
1989 63.3% 1.8%
1990 64.8% 1.1%
1991 53.6% 0.0%
1992 74.3% 1.5%
1993 67.9% 0.9%
1994 63.4% 2.0%
1995 70.2% 2.8%
1996 79.0% 4.1%
1997 100.6% 7.0%
1998 113.1% 11.0%
1999 129.7% 13.2%
2000 144.8% 15.3%
2001 130.4% 15.7%
2002 109.3% 15.6%
2003 113.9% 15.7%
2004 127.2% 15.6%
2005 135.4% 15.0%
2006 143.4% 15.7%
2007 156.2% 16.7%
2008 137.5% 16.0%
2009 116.2% 16.0%
2010 130.9% 15.2%
2011 134.1% 14.6%
2012 148.4% 14.7%
2013 137.7% 15.2%

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Stagnant wages for middle-wage workers, declining wages for low-wage workers
Over the entire 34-year period between 1979 and 2013, the hourly wages of middle-wage workers (median-wage workers who earned more than half the workforce but less than the other half) were stagnant, rising just 6 percent—less than 0.2 percent per year. This wage growth, in fact, occurred only because wages grew in the late 1990s when labor markets got tight enough—unemployment, for instance, fell to 4 percent in 1999 and 2000—to finally deliver across-the-board hourly wage growth. The wages of middle-wage workers were totally flat or in decline over the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, except for the late 1990s. The wages of low-wage workers fared even worse, falling 5 percent from 1979 to 2013. In contrast, the hourly wages of high-wage workers rose 41 percent.

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Your post shows you have no business being in this discussion. You might as well try discussing chemotherapy agents or MRI equipment.

 

[Stephanie]

People who are non union usually smell like trash. They cannot even afford to take out the trash.

and that is the kind of trash talk you get from a Union member.

 

[Muhammed]

People who are non union usually smell like trash. They cannot even afford to take out the trash.

and that is the kind of trash talk you get from a Union member.

If you really think that, you do not want to know what I Ithink about you.

And, YES!

All of those one-syllable words were on purpose!

EDIT:

FUCK YOU

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[Muhammed]

You're a fucking troll.

 

[The Rabbi]

People who are non union usually smell like trash. They cannot even afford to take out the trash.

and that is the kind of trash talk you get from a Union member.

If you really think that, you do not want to know what I Ithink about you.

And, YES!

All of those one-syllable words were on purpose!

EDIT:

FUCK YOU

****

Unions: The party of Fuck You.

 

[Wyatt earp]

If the Republicans are so gung ho on job creation (which is what many of them ran on to get elected), then why hasn't either the Senate or the House (both Republican controlled), come up with a decent jobs bill yet?

I mean....................fixing the infrastructure and updating the power grid would be a decent start, the jobs need done, and people would more than likely be willing to go work on them.

Just more proof that the GOP has lied to the American people yet again.

Republicans whine about government growth during the Obama Administration, but as usual, Republicans are wrong/lying. If the so-called red-states hadn't been on a mission to destroy as many jobs as possible while Obama was president - job creation during the Obama's time in office would be nothing short of incredible.

The United States infrastructure will continue to crumble as long as we have a Republican congress.


There's A Huge Difference In Public Sector Jobs Under Obama Vs. The Presidents Who Came Before Him
Joe Weisenthal
Oct. 6, 2014, 6:

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As you can see, it's not even close.
Obama in the dark blue line has seen a sustained and violent slump in public sector employment since he became president, and we're not even close to closing the gap.
Reagan had a brief decline in public sector employment, but it came back fast. All the other presidents saw only gains on this measure.
So what's the takeaway?
Partisans will point out that Obama doesn't deserve any "credit" for the decline in government employment, because most of it has happened at the state and local levels.
And that's true as far as it goes, but it misses the simple story, which is that the Obama economy is facing a headwind that simply has not been seen in decades. If it hadn't been for the collapse in public-sector employment, the jobs picture would currently look much brighter than it is.

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If the so-called red-states hadn't been on a mission to destroy as many jobs as possible while Obama was president

____________?_?

What the hell is this bullshit? Obozo tried to kill the Boeing plant in South Carolina, never mind you are a moron

 

[Muhammed]

People who are non union usually smell like trash. They cannot even afford to take out the trash.

and that is the kind of trash talk you get from a Union member.

If you really think that, you do not want to know what I Ithink about you.

And, YES!

All of those one-syllable words were on purpose!

EDIT:

FUCK YOU

****

Unions: The party of Fuck You.

And you liked it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

People who are non union usually smell like trash. They cannot even afford to take out the trash.

and that is the kind of trash talk you get from a Union member.

If you really think that, you do not want to know what I Ithink about you.

And, YES!

All of those one-syllable words were on purpose!

EDIT:

FUCK YOU

****

Unions: The party of Fuck You.

Yup were all aware when Union members retire they destroy their city's and states, take their pensions and move to a red state.

Then they try to fuck up that place....

 

[Muhammed]

People who are non union usually smell like trash. They cannot even afford to take out the trash.

and that is the kind of trash talk you get from a Union member.

If you really think that, you do not want to know what I Ithink about you.

And, YES!

All of those one-syllable words were on purpose!

EDIT:

FUCK YOU

****

Unions: The party of Fuck You.

Yup were all aware when Union members retire they destroy their city's and states, take their pensions and move to a red state.

Then they try to fuck up that place....

Could you explain the logical reasoning that you used to come to that illogical conclusion?

 

[Wyatt earp]

People who are non union usually smell like trash. They cannot even afford to take out the trash.

and that is the kind of trash talk you get from a Union member.

If you really think that, you do not want to know what I Ithink about you.

And, YES!

All of those one-syllable words were on purpose!

EDIT:

FUCK YOU

****

Unions: The party of Fuck You.

Yup were all aware when Union members retire they destroy their city's and states, take their pensions and move to a red state.

Then they try to fuck up that place....

Could you explain the logical reasoning that you used to come to that illogical conclusion?

I wonder if you have ever read a newspaper? So people now are moving in droves to high taxed blue states... Lmao....

 

[The Rabbi]

People who are non union usually smell like trash. They cannot even afford to take out the trash.

and that is the kind of trash talk you get from a Union member.

If you really think that, you do not want to know what I Ithink about you.

And, YES!

All of those one-syllable words were on purpose!

EDIT:

FUCK YOU

****

Unions: The party of Fuck You.

Yup were all aware when Union members retire they destroy their city's and states, take their pensions and move to a red state.

Then they try to fuck up that place....

Could you explain the logical reasoning that you used to come to that illogical conclusion?

Its not a question of logical reasoning. It's a matter of fact. And the facts are as he says.

 

[Muhammed]

and that is the kind of trash talk you get from a Union member.

If you really think that, you do not want to know what I Ithink about you.

And, YES!

All of those one-syllable words were on purpose!

EDIT:

FUCK YOU

****

Unions: The party of Fuck You.

Yup were all aware when Union members retire they destroy their city's and states, take their pensions and move to a red state.

Then they try to fuck up that place....

Could you explain the logical reasoning that you used to come to that illogical conclusion?

Its not a question of logical reasoning. It's a matter of fact. And the facts are as he says.

DAN, he's illiterate.

 

[Muhammed]

and that is the kind of trash talk you get from a Union member.

If you really think that, you do not want to know what I Ithink about you.

And, YES!

All of those one-syllable words were on purpose!

EDIT:

FUCK YOU

****

Unions: The party of Fuck You.

Yup were all aware when Union members retire they destroy their city's and states, take their pensions and move to a red state.

Then they try to fuck up that place....

Could you explain the logical reasoning that you used to come to that illogical conclusion?

Its not a question of logical reasoning. It's a matter of fact. And the facts are as he says.

= No. You cannot.

 

[The Rabbi]

If you really think that, you do not want to know what I Ithink about you.

And, YES!

All of those one-syllable words were on purpose!

EDIT:

FUCK YOU

****

Unions: The party of Fuck You.

Yup were all aware when Union members retire they destroy their city's and states, take their pensions and move to a red state.

Then they try to fuck up that place....

Could you explain the logical reasoning that you used to come to that illogical conclusion?

Its not a question of logical reasoning. It's a matter of fact. And the facts are as he says.

DAN, he's illiterate.

Your failure to answer here is noted.

 

[Star]

Unions: The party of Fuck You.

Yup were all aware when Union members retire they destroy their city's and states, take their pensions and move to a red state.

Then they try to fuck up that place....

Could you explain the logical reasoning that you used to come to that illogical conclusion?

Its not a question of logical reasoning. It's a matter of fact. And the facts are as he says.

DAN, he's illiterate.

Your failure to answer here is noted.

Thanks for bringing up "failure to answer" - You're still haven't answered to my question... why is that?


Here's the question---again!
Here's an idea for you, we could virtually end unemployment, reduce welfare and shrink almost all other safety net programs to near non-existence if government would hire the unemployed at a wage and benefits package that does not unsettle local wage and price stability. What's your objection to the government hiring the unemployed and pushing unemployment to almost zero?

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[The Rabbi]

Yup were all aware when Union members retire they destroy their city's and states, take their pensions and move to a red state.

Then they try to fuck up that place....

Could you explain the logical reasoning that you used to come to that illogical conclusion?

Its not a question of logical reasoning. It's a matter of fact. And the facts are as he says.

DAN, he's illiterate.

Your failure to answer here is noted.

Thanks for bringing up "failure to answer" - You're still haven't answered to my question... why is that?


Here's the question---again!
Here's an idea for you, we could virtually end unemployment, reduce welfare and shrink almost all other safety net programs to near non-existence if government would hire the unemployed at a wage and benefits package that does not unsettle local wage and price stability. What's your objection to the government hiring the unemployed and pushing unemployment to almost zero?

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The answer is if you think is a realistic idea or a good idea then you clearly do not understand economics.

 

[Muhammed]

Could you explain the logical reasoning that you used to come to that illogical conclusion?

Its not a question of logical reasoning. It's a matter of fact. And the facts are as he says.

DAN, he's illiterate.

Your failure to answer here is noted.

Thanks for bringing up "failure to answer" - You're still haven't answered to my question... why is that?


Here's the question---again!
Here's an idea for you, we could virtually end unemployment, reduce welfare and shrink almost all other safety net programs to near non-existence if government would hire the unemployed at a wage and benefits package that does not unsettle local wage and price stability. What's your objection to the government hiring the unemployed and pushing unemployment to almost zero?

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The answer is if you think is a realistic idea or a good idea then you clearly do not understand economics.

So... Do you consider yourself to be an economics expert?

 

[Star]

Its not a question of logical reasoning. It's a matter of fact. And the facts are as he says.

DAN, he's illiterate.

Your failure to answer here is noted.

Thanks for bringing up "failure to answer" - You're still haven't answered to my question... why is that?


Here's the question---again!
Here's an idea for you, we could virtually end unemployment, reduce welfare and shrink almost all other safety net programs to near non-existence if government would hire the unemployed at a wage and benefits package that does not unsettle local wage and price stability. What's your objection to the government hiring the unemployed and pushing unemployment to almost zero?

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The answer is if you think is a realistic idea or a good idea then you clearly do not understand economics.

So... Do you consider yourself to be an economics expert?

The Rabbi? The Rabbi an expert-----an expert at anything? -giggle- The Rabbi is strictly an ad hominem posting waste of time but-----but I have to say, it was nice of you to ask.
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[nat4900]

Which came first:

Unions stopped donating to the GOP............OR

The GOP figured out they could get MORE from anti-union corporations?

 

[Buzz Jenkins]

Fuck labor. If we do not empower the uber class of industrialists and investors by restructuring the tax code, reducing regulation, and dismantling organized crime - uh, I mean, organized "labor" - the labor are not going to have jobs to bitch about.