Relativity Question

[Frannie]

To us, would it look like it only took a minute, while to the VW, which is experiencing a radical slowing of time it took thousands of years?

It's the other way around. The driver of the VW would not even notice they crossed the event horizon, and it would do so in an instant. To us, the VW would take literally forever to cross the event horizon.

Please drive your vw into a black hole

Moron alert

^^^

Begging for my attention

Absolutely, you are my all time idol

 

[daveman]

The matter isn't compressed -- it's being torn apart. The gravity differential becomes so great that even on the atomic scale, the side of an atom nearer to the singularity is pulled far harder than the side opposite...so hard, the nuclear bonds are broken. Each atom being ripped apart releases a burst of X-rays.

That's not accurate. While that may certainly be happening inside the event horizon, closer to the black hole, the gradient is not that strong outside the event horizon. And we could never observe xrays emitted in this manner, as they all end up in the black hole and never escape the event horizon from within it.

What happens to gas near a black hole is that it loses angular momentum due to magnetic fields and friction, and that energy is converted to thermal energy. The gas then heats up so much that it emits xrays.

Depends on the mass of the black hole.

I'm not going to click that. Could you just summarize the point(s) in your own words?

Dude. It's Wiki.

Yet still, i'm not going to sift through something you have never read and figure out what point you are trying to make.

Oh, eat shit, you pompous toad. Obviously I read it. That's why I linked it, you moron.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That's not accurate. While that may certainly be happening inside the event horizon, closer to the black hole, the gradient is not that strong outside the event horizon. And we could never observe xrays emitted in this manner, as they all end up in the black hole and never escape the event horizon from within it.

What happens to gas near a black hole is that it loses angular momentum due to magnetic fields and friction, and that energy is converted to thermal energy. The gas then heats up so much that it emits xrays.

Depends on the mass of the black hole.

I'm not going to click that. Could you just summarize the point(s) in your own words?

Dude. It's Wiki.

Yet still, i'm not going to sift through something you have never read and figure out what point you are trying to make.

Oh, eat shit, you pompous toad. Obviously I read it. That's why I linked it, you moron.

Sure. Even so, go ahead and at least state why it is relevant or why i should read it.

 

[daveman]

Depends on the mass of the black hole.

I'm not going to click that. Could you just summarize the point(s) in your own words?

Dude. It's Wiki.

Yet still, i'm not going to sift through something you have never read and figure out what point you are trying to make.

Oh, eat shit, you pompous toad. Obviously I read it. That's why I linked it, you moron.

Sure. Even so, go ahead and at least state why it is relevant or why i should read it.

Toobfreak already copied and pasted it.

If you're not bright enough to figure out why it's relevant, there's no way I can explain it any more simply.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'm not going to click that. Could you just summarize the point(s) in your own words?

Dude. It's Wiki.

Yet still, i'm not going to sift through something you have never read and figure out what point you are trying to make.

Oh, eat shit, you pompous toad. Obviously I read it. That's why I linked it, you moron.

Sure. Even so, go ahead and at least state why it is relevant or why i should read it.

Toobfreak already copied and pasted it.

If you're not bright enough to figure out why it's relevant, there's no way I can explain it any more simply.

If you post a link, at least comment on why it is relevant, or summarize the points. Too many posters here waste everyone's time posting links to articles they have never read. Then everyone else has to waste their time.

Of course I can read the article and figure out why it is relevant. I corrected your mistake on this material, as you seem to have quickly forgotten.

Also, that's now 3 posts by you without any demonstration that you read or understand that article.

 

[Frannie]

Dude. It's Wiki.

Yet still, i'm not going to sift through something you have never read and figure out what point you are trying to make.

Oh, eat shit, you pompous toad. Obviously I read it. That's why I linked it, you moron.

Sure. Even so, go ahead and at least state why it is relevant or why i should read it.

Toobfreak already copied and pasted it.

If you're not bright enough to figure out why it's relevant, there's no way I can explain it any more simply.

If you post a link, at least comment on why it is relevant, or summarize the points. Too many posters here waste everyone's time posting links to articles they have never read. Then everyone else has to waste their time.

Of course I can read the article and figure out why it is relevant. I corrected your mistake on this material, as you seem to have quickly forgotten.

Also, that's now 3 posts by you without any demonstration that you read or understand that article.

Yes Mrs. kindergarten teacher

 

[percysunshine]

Recently scientists noted that Sag A, the black hole at the center of Milky Way, flared up 75 times brighter and thought it might relate to a massive dust cloud that came close to it in 2014.

Relativity state that time slows as you approach a black hole and stop altogether as you fall into it.

If this gas fell into the black hole near light speed, time would have slowed to a near stop. How can a gas cloud that approached in 2014 be the cause of the brightness, wouldn't it now take this light many thousands of "extra years" (compared to our POV) to reach us? I understand what we saw in 2014 actually happened 25,000 years ago, thats not the point

Once the gas hit 88 mph, all the laws of physics changed.

 

[daveman]

Dude. It's Wiki.

Yet still, i'm not going to sift through something you have never read and figure out what point you are trying to make.

Oh, eat shit, you pompous toad. Obviously I read it. That's why I linked it, you moron.

Sure. Even so, go ahead and at least state why it is relevant or why i should read it.

Toobfreak already copied and pasted it.

If you're not bright enough to figure out why it's relevant, there's no way I can explain it any more simply.

If you post a link, at least comment on why it is relevant, or summarize the points. Too many posters here waste everyone's time posting links to articles they have never read. Then everyone else has to waste their time.

Of course I can read the article and figure out why it is relevant. I corrected your mistake on this material, as you seem to have quickly forgotten.

Also, that's now 3 posts by you without any demonstration that you read or understand that article.

I read it. You didn't. It shows we were both half-wrong.

I can admit it. You can't. You can stop pretending to be superior now -- you can't pull it off.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It shows we were both half-wrong.

Interesting! How so? The science is moving so fast.

So... How So? Without all the whining, please.

 

[daveman]

It shows we were both half-wrong.

Interesting! How so? The science is moving so fast.

So... How So? Without all the whining, please.

If you'd read it, you'd know.

But, hey...you don't want to acknowledge your mistake. Not at all surprising, really.

 

[Frannie]

It shows we were both half-wrong.

Interesting! How so? The science is moving so fast.

So... How So? Without all the whining, please.

If you'd read it, you'd know.

But, hey...you don't want to acknowledge your mistake. Not at all surprising, really.

He does not make mistakes, he just babbles, you really should stop taking him seriously

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It shows we were both half-wrong.

Interesting! How so? The science is moving so fast.

So... How So? Without all the whining, please.

If you'd read it, you'd know.

But, hey...you don't want to acknowledge your mistake. Not at all surprising, really.

I wouldnwt be surprised at all if science learned something that I don't know. Not one bit. In fact, I expect it.

But, it's clear you didn't read and don't understand that article, or you could just give me a quick summary of the relevant point.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Recently scientists noted that Sag A, the black hole at the center of Milky Way, flared up 75 times brighter and thought it might relate to a massive dust cloud that came close to it in 2014.

Relativity state that time slows as you approach a black hole and stop altogether as you fall into it.

If this gas fell into the black hole near light speed, time would have slowed to a near stop. How can a gas cloud that approached in 2014 be the cause of the brightness, wouldn't it now take this light many thousands of "extra years" (compared to our POV) to reach us? I understand what we saw in 2014 actually happened 25,000 years ago, thats not the point

That's why we only have 12 yrs left! Scientists are great at distorting the truth.you are correct Light only travels so fast. and the earth has been much warmer than it is now in the past couple millions of years. Fake science is everywhere.

 

[daveman]

It shows we were both half-wrong.

Interesting! How so? The science is moving so fast.

So... How So? Without all the whining, please.

If you'd read it, you'd know.

But, hey...you don't want to acknowledge your mistake. Not at all surprising, really.

I wouldnwt be surprised at all if science learned something that I don't know. Not one bit. In fact, I expect it.

But, it's clear you didn't read and don't understand that article, or you could just give me a quick summary of the relevant point.

I'm not going to hold your hand. Stop demanding it.

 

[daveman]

It shows we were both half-wrong.

Interesting! How so? The science is moving so fast.

So... How So? Without all the whining, please.

If you'd read it, you'd know.

But, hey...you don't want to acknowledge your mistake. Not at all surprising, really.

He does not make mistakes, he just babbles, you really should stop taking him seriously

I don't take him any more seriously than I do you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'm not going to hold your hand. Stop demanding it.

Um...it's your point...you would be holding your own hand. You haven't even attempted to state it.

 

[daveman]

I'm not going to hold your hand. Stop demanding it.

Um...it's your point...you would be holding your own hand. You haven't even attempted to state it.

You screeching NUH UH is not a compelling argument. You could have read the article days ago, but you'd rather throw your little bitch-fit.

Run along now.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You screeching NUH UH is not a compelling argument.

Stupid response. I am merely asking you to state your point.

Instead, you have posted 7 times to whine about being asked to state your point.

It is quite clear you never read and don't understand that article. Thanks for wasting my time.

 

[daveman]

You screeching NUH UH is not a compelling argument.

Stupid response. I am merely asking you to state your point.

Instead, you have posted 7 times to whine about being asked to state your point.

It is quite clear you never read and don't understand that article. Thanks for wasting my time.

If that makes you feel better about being a little bitch, sure, you have my permission to believe that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You screeching NUH UH is not a compelling argument.

Stupid response. I am merely asking you to state your point.

Instead, you have posted 7 times to whine about being asked to state your point.

It is quite clear you never read and don't understand that article. Thanks for wasting my time.

If that makes you feel better about being a little bitch, sure, you have my permission to believe that.

Unfortunately for you, the evidence is what it is. Your hot air has no bearing on it.