Reagan - Class Act

[CrusaderFrank]

An excuse followed by a lie. You can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy, it seems. Although to be fair you get credit for acknowledging the truth about Junebug. That is a welcome admission and a surprise.

Every single word of my post is accurate. That is 100%.

While your defense of the Bobbleheaded One is an embarrassment on your behalf to honest persons of normal emotional maturity and an IQ over about sixty. Reagan's prosperity was built in credit. Why don't you borrow as much as you, your father and your grandfathers spent over yours and their working lives and then continue to borrow to pay expenses plus to pay back debt coming due and see how that works out? That was - and in fact remains the ReagaNUT style "new economy" to the current second.

Interesting to note that you have joined the legions of mental defectives criticizing one president who doesn't control congress while using a much better congressional relationship as an excuse for another. Tut, tut. Damned bad form, sonny.

If "Reagan's prosperity was built on credit" where's Obama's prosperity?

One Obama deficit > all of Reagans

One Obama Deficit > any Reagan budget

We can agree Obama is over his head with a lot less experience and lower quality help managing bureaucracies than Reagan had. I'm not here to defend or apologize for Obama - who didn't get my vote in 2012; Gary Johnson did, although after 2004 I made a promise to vote against the nutball in 2008 - even if the name was Jesus Christ.

Nutballs elected Obama in 2004 by re electing the most MEASURABLY failed president in US history. In 2008 there were millions like me who in 2004 had committed to vote for the Democrat in 2008, even if they ran the literal Devil.

Bottom line: loathing Reagan is not the same thing as supporting Obama. For my money Clinton belongs in prison today for what he did in Yugoslavia. Beside Junebug Bush for what he did in Iraq.

If "Reagan's prosperity was built on credit" where's Obama's prosperity?

One Obama deficit > all of Reagans

One Obama Deficit > any Reagan budget

Sorry, I'm not seeing your explanation of why only Reagan's deficits bought us prosperity. Want to phone a friend, maybe Krugman and ask for help?

Can you read? It is right in front of you in bright red.

Reagan's prosperity was debt-fueled canned heat. A high school kid of average intelligence can figure it out that living on borrowed money is not the healthiest form of prosperity.

While the nutball element clearly disagrees, living on borrowed money is not real prosperity. (See, Dugdale's Razor)[/QUOTE]

Were Reagan's deficits magical deficits? Obama's racked up bigger deficits in his 5 years than anyone else in all human history

Are you backing away from your "Deficits = Prosperity" thesis?

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

1. Reagan never controlled Congress. The Democrats promised him spending cuts and lied to his face. So your premise is bullshit, Id accept that for that scumbag Dubya, but not for Reagan

2. Reagan let the private sector get back to work. AT the end of his first term the economy was a million times better than the one her inherited and the best was yet to come

Everything else you said is bullshit and not worth the time to respond

An excuse followed by a lie. You can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy, it seems. Although to be fair you get credit for acknowledging the truth about Junebug. That is a welcome admission and a surprise.

Every single word of my post is accurate. That is 100%.

While your defense of the Bobbleheaded One is an embarrassment on your behalf to honest persons of normal emotional maturity and an IQ over about sixty. Reagan's prosperity was built in credit. Why don't you borrow as much as you, your father and your grandfathers spent over yours and their working lives and then continue to borrow to pay expenses plus to pay back debt coming due and see how that works out? That was - and in fact remains the ReagaNUT style "new economy" to the current second.

Interesting to note that you have joined the legions of mental defectives criticizing one president who doesn't control congress while using a much better congressional relationship as an excuse for another. Tut, tut. Damned bad form, sonny.

If "Reagan's prosperity was built on credit" where's Obama's prosperity?

One Obama deficit > all of Reagans

One Obama Deficit > any Reagan budget

We can agree Obama is over his head with a lot less experience and lower quality help managing bureaucracies than Reagan had. I'm not here to defend or apologize for Obama - who didn't get my vote in 2012; Gary Johnson did, although after 2004 I made a promise to vote against the nutball in 2008 - even if the name was Jesus Christ.

Bottom line: loathing Reagan is not the same thing as supporting Obama. For my money Clinton belongs in prison today for what he did in Yugoslavia. Beside Junebug Bush for what he did in Iraq.

If "Reagan's prosperity was built on credit" where's Obama's prosperity?

One Obama deficit > all of Reagans

One Obama Deficit > any Reagan budget

Sorry, I'm not seeing your explanation of why only Reagan's deficits bought us prosperity. Want to phone a friend, maybe Krugman and ask for help?

Can you read? The explanation why Reagan's deficits didn't bring true prosperity has been right in front of you in bright red. You might look at heroin addicts to see how Reagan's bogus economy made people like you feel good for a while. When the heroin is gone, addicts have a hard, hard time. How do you feel today, ace?

Reagan's prosperity was debt-fueled canned heat. A high school kid of average intelligence can figure it out that living on borrowed money is not the healthiest form of prosperity.

While the nutball element clearly disagrees, living on borrowed money is not real prosperity. (See, Dugdale's Razor)

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CrusaderFrank:

Were Reagan's deficits magical deficits? Obama's racked up bigger deficits in his 5 years than anyone else in all human history

Are you backing away from your "Deficits = Prosperity" thesis?[/QUOTE]
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DJ

Again, can you read? At no time in my life has anything as crazy as "Deficits = Prosperity" ever come out of me in any form. That kind of wild-dyed crazy bogusness is the work of voodoo economists like Milton Friedman, Alan Greenspan, and others among NeoCon Ron's shysters who turned their halfwit's NEW DEAL instincts into today's national disaster.

"Deficits = Prosperity" is entirely the province of ReagaNUTs including Clinton and Obama. None of them were or are worth a fuck.

 

[Papageorgio]

[FONT=&quot]Upon reading or hearing that question every decent American will want to get down on their knees to pray the answer to that question is "Never again." Here are the facts on file about the B actor who fucked the United States while white trash cheered him on...[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1. Reagan tripled the national debt from $900kkk in 1981 to $2.8kkkk at the end of his term, an amount equal to America's spending the first 80 years of the century which included two world wars. After cutting taxes for the top 5% from 70% to 28% his first year in office, federal revenue dropped off thereby proving the lie tax cuts increase revenue. The Bobbleheaded One was never able to get spending under control so he borrowed more and more like the fool he was.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]2. President Bobblehead raised taxes 11 times in seven seven of his eight years in office. A closet New Dealer with an almost religious belief in Keynesian economics ("voodoo", "trickle down" or "supply side" depending on who is talking) Reagan was never afraid to raise taxes. Reagan raised taxes on the blue collar middle class with a nod, a wink, and a preacher standing besidehim and white trash stood in line to praise him for fucking them. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]3. John Maynard Reagan exploded the cost of the federal government and increased the size. The Bobbleheaded One bragged, "Government is the problem" and further promised to control runaway growth of federal spending. We fiscal conservatives are still waiting. Federal spending ballooned under Reagan. He signed pay parity laws without any consideration of pension effects PLUS IN PEACETIME hiked defense spending by over $100 billion a year to Vietnam era spending levels. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]4. New Economy Reynald Reagan signed a major embarrassment giving amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens The open borders bill made any immigrant who had entered the country before 1982 eligible for amnesty, which gave effective cover to the other five million illegals in country at the time, setting the stage for today's disastrous situation. In the bonus round Reagan ensured there were no sanctions on employers who hired undocumented immigrants. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]5. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Reagan's clownshow secretly sold arms to officials in Iran fighting against the Ayatollah and for good measure financed revolutions in Central America; then when he got caught he pretended to be senile, admitting over 100 times he couldn't remember what was going on around him. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
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[FONT=&quot]6. Nutball God Ronald Reagan funded Osama Bin Laden and financed the Taliban. The Bobbleheaded One financed training, arms, and other materiel funding Islamist mujahidin fighters in Afghanistan. There is absolutelty no question at all that Reagan’s decision to continue Charlie Wilson's war played a direct role in Bin Laden’s ascendancy.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]7. NeoCon Ron Reagan supported Saddam Hussein's rise to status of regional potentate by pressuring Saudi Arabia, Italy and other nations to pass money and arms along to Saddam Hussein. There was absolute proof Hussein used chemical weapons against Kurds and against Iran but in line with Reagan's support for that sort of thing, US money and arms kept on coming.[/FONT]

1. Reagan never controlled Congress. The Democrats promised him spending cuts and lied to his face. So your premise is bullshit, Id accept that for that scumbag Dubya, but not for Reagan

2. Reagan let the private sector get back to work. AT the end of his first term the economy was a million times better than the one her inherited and the best was yet to come

Everything else you said is bullshit and not worth the time to respond

An excuse followed by a lie. You can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy, it seems. Although to be fair you get credit for acknowledging the truth about Junebug. That is a welcome admission and a surprise.

Every single word of my post is accurate. That is 100%.

While your defense of the Bobbleheaded One is an embarrassment on your behalf to honest persons of normal emotional maturity and an IQ over about sixty. Reagan's prosperity was built in credit. Wny don't you borrow as much as you, your father and your grandfathers spent over yours and their working lives and then continue to borrow to pay expenses plus to pay back debt coming due and see how that works out? That was - and in fact remains the ReagaNUT style "new economy" to the current second.

Interesting to note that you have joined the legions of mental defectives criticizing one president who doesn't control congress while using a much better congressional relationship as an excuse for another. Tut, tut. Damned bad form, sonny.

Bullshit on your whole post.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

1. Reagan never controlled Congress. The Democrats promised him spending cuts and lied to his face. So your premise is bullshit, Id accept that for that scumbag Dubya, but not for Reagan

2. Reagan let the private sector get back to work. AT the end of his first term the economy was a million times better than the one her inherited and the best was yet to come

Everything else you said is bullshit and not worth the time to respond

An excuse followed by a lie. You can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy, it seems. Although to be fair you get credit for acknowledging the truth about Junebug. That is a welcome admission and a surprise.

Every single word of my post is accurate. That is 100%.

While your defense of the Bobbleheaded One is an embarrassment on your behalf to honest persons of normal emotional maturity and an IQ over about sixty. Reagan's prosperity was built in credit. Wny don't you borrow as much as you, your father and your grandfathers spent over yours and their working lives and then continue to borrow to pay expenses plus to pay back debt coming due and see how that works out? That was - and in fact remains the ReagaNUT style "new economy" to the current second.

Interesting to note that you have joined the legions of mental defectives criticizing one president who doesn't control congress while using a much better congressional relationship as an excuse for another. Tut, tut. Damned bad form, sonny.

Bullshit on your whole post.

Thank you, papa-g, for your insights into the mysteries of Ronald Reagan's popularity.
Your analysis demonstrates exactly how the United States got to this sad, dangerous place.

 

[regent]

Reagan could remember his lines better than most, and he always had some cute little sayings, ready to spring when the going got tough. I often wondered if Reagan was always on a movie set, or if he even knew what was going on at times. He admitted that he didn't know what was going on in the Iran hearings, it seems somebody was running the government and Reagan didn't know who or what they were doing.

 

[Papageorgio]

An excuse followed by a lie. You can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy, it seems. Although to be fair you get credit for acknowledging the truth about Junebug. That is a welcome admission and a surprise.

Every single word of my post is accurate. That is 100%.

While your defense of the Bobbleheaded One is an embarrassment on your behalf to honest persons of normal emotional maturity and an IQ over about sixty. Reagan's prosperity was built in credit. Wny don't you borrow as much as you, your father and your grandfathers spent over yours and their working lives and then continue to borrow to pay expenses plus to pay back debt coming due and see how that works out? That was - and in fact remains the ReagaNUT style "new economy" to the current second.

Interesting to note that you have joined the legions of mental defectives criticizing one president who doesn't control congress while using a much better congressional relationship as an excuse for another. Tut, tut. Damned bad form, sonny.

Bullshit on your whole post.

Thank you, papa-g, for your insights into the mysteries of Ronald Reagan's popularity.
Your analysis demonstrates exactly how the United States got to this sad, dangerous place.

Dug, I realized after your claim that Congress and the President didn't make the to cut the deficit, that it was pointless to try to debate. Also a person that resorts to name calling as a way the some how thinks it makes points, is also just as pointless.

Everyone has a right to an opinion based on their perception, it doesn't mean their perception is reality. BTW, for the record,

And I highly doubt me thinking what you think is bullshit, led us to where we are today.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]
Upon reading or hearing that question every decent American will want to get down on their knees to pray the answer to that question is "Never again." Here are the facts on file about the B actor who fucked the United States while white trash cheered him on...

1. Reagan tripled the national debt from $900kkk in 1981 to $2.8kkkk at the end of his term, an amount equal to America's spending the first 80 years of the century which included two world wars. After cutting taxes for the top 5% from 70% to 28% his first year in office, federal revenue dropped off thereby proving the lie tax cuts increase revenue. The Bobbleheaded One was [FONT=&quot]never able[/FONT] to get spending under control so he borrowed more and more like the fool he was.

2. President Bobblehead [FONT=&quot]raised taxes 11 times[/FONT] in seven seven of his eight years in office. A closet New Dealer with an almost religious belief in Keynesian economics ("voodoo", "trickle down" or "supply side" depending on who is talking) Reagan was [FONT=&quot]never afraid to raise taxes[/FONT]. Reagan raised taxes on the blue collar middle class with a nod, a wink, and a preacher standing besidehim and white trash stood in line to praise him for fucking them.

3. John Maynard Reagan exploded the cost of the federal government and increased the size. The Bobbleheaded One bragged, "Government is the problem" and further promised to control [FONT=&quot]runaway growth of federal spending[/FONT]. We fiscal conservatives are still waiting. Federal spending [FONT=&quot]ballooned[/FONT] under Reagan. He signed pay parity laws without any consideration of pension effects PLUS IN PEACETIME [FONT=&quot]hiked defense spending[/FONT] by over $100 billion a year to Vietnam era spending levels.

4. New Economy Reynald Reagan signed a [FONT=&quot]major embarrassment[/FONT] giving amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens The open borders bill made any immigrant who had entered the country before 1982 eligible for amnesty, which gave effective cover to the other five million illegals in country at the time, setting the stage for today's disastrous situation. In the bonus round Reagan ensured there were no sanctions on employers who hired undocumented immigrants.

5. Reagan's clownshow [FONT=&quot]secretly sold arms to officials in Iran[/FONT] fighting against the Ayatollah and for good measure financed revolutions in Central America; then when he got caught he pretended to be senile, admitting over 100 times he couldn't remember what was going on around him.


6. Nutball God Ronald Reagan funded Osama Bin Laden and financed the Taliban. The Bobbleheaded One financed training, arms, and other materiel [FONT=&quot]funding Islamist mujahidin[/FONT] fighters in Afghanistan. There is absolutelty no question at all that Reagan’s decision to continue Charlie Wilson's war [FONT=&quot]played a direct role[/FONT] in Bin Laden’s ascendancy.

7. NeoCon Ron Reagan supported Saddam Hussein's rise to status of regional potentate by pressuring Saudi Arabia, Italy and other nations to pass money and arms along to Saddam Hussein. There was absolute proof Hussein used chemical weapons against Kurds and against Iran but in line with Reagan's support for that sort of thing, US money and arms kept on coming.

1. Reagan never controlled Congress. The Democrats promised him spending cuts and lied to his face. So your premise is bullshit, Id accept that for that scumbag Dubya, but not for Reagan

2. Reagan let the private sector get back to work. AT the end of his first term the economy was a million times better than the one her inherited and the best was yet to come

Everything else you said is bullshit and not worth the time to respond

An excuse followed by a lie. You can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy, it seems. Although to be fair you get credit for acknowledging the truth about Junebug. That is a welcome admission and a surprise.

Every single word of my post is accurate. That is 100%.

While your defense of the Bobbleheaded One is an embarrassment on your behalf to honest persons of normal emotional maturity and an IQ over about sixty. Reagan's prosperity was built in credit. Wny don't you borrow as much as you, your father and your grandfathers spent over yours and their working lives and then continue to borrow to pay expenses plus to pay back debt coming due and see how that works out? That was - and in fact remains the ReagaNUT style "new economy" to the current second.

Interesting to note that you have joined the legions of mental defectives criticizing one president who doesn't control congress while using a much better congressional relationship as an excuse for another. Tut, tut. Damned bad form, sonny.

Bullshit on your whole post.

Thank you, papa-g, for your insights into the mysteries of Ronald Reagan's popularity.
Your analysis demonstrates exactly how the United States got to this sad, dangerous place.

Dug, I realized after your claim that Congress and the President didn't make the to cut the deficit, that it was pointless to try to debate. Also a person that resorts to name calling as a way the some how thinks it makes points, is also just as pointless.

Everyone has a right to an opinion based on their perception, it doesn't mean their perception is reality. BTW, for the record,

And I highly doubt me thinking what you think is bullshit, led us to where we are today.

You don't even get the point, Papa-g. My post is verifiable fact. My post is based on verifiable hard measures in the record book. My post isn't filtered through emotion, it is from the public record.

Please spare yourself the embarrassment of passive-aggressive excuses. What led us to where we are today is people like you trusting the scum of the earth and then being unable to face the facts. As you note above, you don't want to discuss the facts, you are more interested in "feelings" aka your own emotionally filtered perceptions.

The United States is where it is because too many people do not verify how the words of their own politicians match their deeds. Nothing Reagan did on the fiscal side matched his chatter. Using name calling as an excuse for not proving Reagan is what you believe he was is just real lame, there, bud.

To sum up
1. Every word of my post is true. There isn't a false word.
2. Excuses don't matter. Excuses are not on the table among winners.

On the editorial side, 100% of honest, decent people can agree there is something fishy about criticizing Obama for executing Reagan fiscal policy WITHOUT ADMITTING REAGAN WAS WRONG AND WHY IN SOME DETAIL.

Effective, durable solutions on any scale are process-based. What did Reagan get wrong, and what are the steps to fix that. Until the admission is made, Obama is just following the master. Down the drain, to be sure, but apparently that is what Reagan wanted.

One suspects that deep within you are memories of your parents, ruminations on an America that believed in accountability, and remembrances of times before Reagan divided America against itself using religious nonsense and cold war bogusness. Those memories of that America tell you who has the high ground here.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

An excuse followed by a lie. You can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy, it seems. Although to be fair you get credit for acknowledging the truth about Junebug. That is a welcome admission and a surprise.

Every single word of my post is accurate. That is 100%.

While your defense of the Bobbleheaded One is an embarrassment on your behalf to honest persons of normal emotional maturity and an IQ over about sixty. Reagan's prosperity was built in credit. Why don't you borrow as much as you, your father and your grandfathers spent over yours and their working lives and then continue to borrow to pay expenses plus to pay back debt coming due and see how that works out? That was - and in fact remains the ReagaNUT style "new economy" to the current second.

Interesting to note that you have joined the legions of mental defectives criticizing one president who doesn't control congress while using a much better congressional relationship as an excuse for another. Tut, tut. Damned bad form, sonny.

If "Reagan's prosperity was built on credit" where's Obama's prosperity?

One Obama deficit > all of Reagans

One Obama Deficit > any Reagan budget

We can agree Obama is over his head with a lot less experience and lower quality help managing bureaucracies than Reagan had. I'm not here to defend or apologize for Obama - who didn't get my vote in 2012; Gary Johnson did, although after 2004 I made a promise to vote against the nutball in 2008 - even if the name was Jesus Christ.

Bottom line: loathing Reagan is not the same thing as supporting Obama. For my money Clinton belongs in prison today for what he did in Yugoslavia. Beside Junebug Bush for what he did in Iraq.

If "Reagan's prosperity was built on credit" where's Obama's prosperity?

One Obama deficit > all of Reagans

One Obama Deficit > any Reagan budget

Sorry, I'm not seeing your explanation of why only Reagan's deficits bought us prosperity. Want to phone a friend, maybe Krugman and ask for help?

Can you read? The explanation why Reagan's deficits didn't bring true prosperity has been right in front of you in bright red. You might look at heroin addicts to see how Reagan's bogus economy made people like you feel good for a while. When the heroin is gone, addicts have a hard, hard time. How do you feel today, ace?

Reagan's prosperity was debt-fueled canned heat. A high school kid of average intelligence can figure it out that living on borrowed money is not the healthiest form of prosperity.

While the nutball element clearly disagrees, living on borrowed money is not real prosperity. (See, Dugdale's Razor)

Your wasting your time Dugdale.Frank obviously only see's what he WANTS to see like all reagan apologists so your not going to get anywhere with him.Might as well be talking to a braick wall.He is way too much in denial. Obviously he is a die hard republican which explains why he defends the corrupt reagan to know end and bashes carter and Obama.

I remember for a long time when Frank was talking about Obama not being a us citizen people would laugh at him all the time.most were laughing at him because the truth that we have a foreigner running our country is too scary for a lot of americans to want to face and deal with.

the american sheople have been conditioned that their government wont lie to them,so most of the critism I thought Frank got back then was very unfair, but he pretty much brings it on himself.

He wont address facts.He is selective about posts,only readiong PARTS of them.He just comes back with pitiful on liners when he is cornered as evidenced throughout this thread.

I remember back then on the subject of Obama,that heck even Echo Zulu laughed at him which really surprised and amazed me because back when Gunny was the administrater,she was the only mod who left posters alone when she did not agree with them.

She never called people names or anything and didnt back then either but she DID laugh ay him which again,shocked me cause she always leaves posters alone and FRANKS case though,I can understand WHY she laughed at him the way he plays dodgeball when he is cornered constantly ignoring that cartoon caption and that link I have posted that proves beyond a doubt he was corrupt as hell.

He wouldnt last one minute in a debating hall against a grade school kid if he debated there the same way he does here. you got to actually address the facts brought up by your opponent.ALL of them,not just PARTS. when ECHO ZULU breaks down and does something she NEVER does,laugh at another poster-then you KNOW that poster is a joke at this forum.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

1. Reagan never controlled Congress. The Democrats promised him spending cuts and lied to his face. So your premise is bullshit, Id accept that for that scumbag Dubya, but not for Reagan

2. Reagan let the private sector get back to work. AT the end of his first term the economy was a million times better than the one her inherited and the best was yet to come

Everything else you said is bullshit and not worth the time to respond

An excuse followed by a lie. You can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy, it seems. Although to be fair you get credit for acknowledging the truth about Junebug. That is a welcome admission and a surprise.

Every single word of my post is accurate. That is 100%.

While your defense of the Bobbleheaded One is an embarrassment on your behalf to honest persons of normal emotional maturity and an IQ over about sixty. Reagan's prosperity was built in credit. Wny don't you borrow as much as you, your father and your grandfathers spent over yours and their working lives and then continue to borrow to pay expenses plus to pay back debt coming due and see how that works out? That was - and in fact remains the ReagaNUT style "new economy" to the current second.

Interesting to note that you have joined the legions of mental defectives criticizing one president who doesn't control congress while using a much better congressional relationship as an excuse for another. Tut, tut. Damned bad form, sonny.

Bullshit on your whole post.

Your doing the Frank thing,playing a nice game of dodgeball.thats typical though with the Reagan apologists as demonstrated throughout this whole thread.excellent rebutall to the facts,you sure showed him..

 

[LA RAM FAN]

1. Reagan never controlled Congress. The Democrats promised him spending cuts and lied to his face. So your premise is bullshit, Id accept that for that scumbag Dubya, but not for Reagan

2. Reagan let the private sector get back to work. AT the end of his first term the economy was a million times better than the one her inherited and the best was yet to come

Everything else you said is bullshit and not worth the time to respond

An excuse followed by a lie. You can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy, it seems. Although to be fair you get credit for acknowledging the truth about Junebug. That is a welcome admission and a surprise.

Every single word of my post is accurate. That is 100%.

While your defense of the Bobbleheaded One is an embarrassment on your behalf to honest persons of normal emotional maturity and an IQ over about sixty. Reagan's prosperity was built in credit. Wny don't you borrow as much as you, your father and your grandfathers spent over yours and their working lives and then continue to borrow to pay expenses plus to pay back debt coming due and see how that works out? That was - and in fact remains the ReagaNUT style "new economy" to the current second.

Interesting to note that you have joined the legions of mental defectives criticizing one president who doesn't control congress while using a much better congressional relationship as an excuse for another. Tut, tut. Damned bad form, sonny.

Thank you, papa-g, for your insights into the mysteries of Ronald Reagan's popularity.
Your analysis demonstrates exactly how the United States got to this sad, dangerous place.

Dug, I realized after your claim that Congress and the President didn't make the to cut the deficit, that it was pointless to try to debate. Also a person that resorts to name calling as a way the some how thinks it makes points, is also just as pointless.

Everyone has a right to an opinion based on their perception, it doesn't mean their perception is reality. BTW, for the record,

And I highly doubt me thinking what you think is bullshit, led us to where we are today.

You don't even get the point, Papa-g. My post is verifiable fact. My post is based on verifiable hard measures in the record book. My post isn't filtered through emotion, it is from the public record.

Please spare yourself the embarrassment of passive-aggressive excuses. What led us to where we are today is people like you trusting the scum of the earth and then being unable to face the facts. As you note above, you don't want to discuss the facts, you are more interested in "feelings" aka your own emotionally filtered perceptions.

The United States is where it is because too many people do not verify how the words of their own politicians match their deeds. Nothing Reagan did on the fiscal side matched his chatter. Using name calling as an excuse for not proving Reagan is what you believe he was is just real lame, there, bud.

To sum up
1. Every word of my post is true. There isn't a false word.
2. Excuses don't matter. Excuses are not on the table among winners.

On the editorial side, 100% of honest, decent people can agree there is something fishy about criticizing Obama for executing Reagan fiscal policy WITHOUT ADMITTING REAGAN WAS WRONG AND WHY IN SOME DETAIL.

Effective, durable solutions on any scale are process-based. What did Reagan get wrong, and what are the steps to fix that. Until the admission is made, Obama is just following the master. Down the drain, to be sure, but apparently that is what Reagan wanted.

One suspects that deep within you are memories of your parents, ruminations on an America that believed in accountability, and remembrances of times before Reagan divided America against itself using religious nonsense and cold war bogusness. Those memories of that America tell you who has the high ground here.

exactly.Thats exactly what led us to where we are today is all these reagan apologists trusting the scum of the earth and not able to face facts.None of the reagan apologists here want to discuss facts as evidenced by this reply and franks posts.

its great to see someone on here who understands how corrupt Reagan really was.


Thats exactly what i was saying earlier before in an earlier post that Obama has executed fiscal policy reagan style when his fiscal policy was destructive to america.

The Reagan apologists are doing the same exact same thing with your post,that they have with that cartoon caption someone posted earlier,dodge the facts just like they keep playing dodgeball refusing to address any of these hard verifiable facts in this link of mine they all refuse to read.

http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/Reagan.html


you know? since the Reagan apologists wont address facts liek the one you posted,or the ones in that cartoon caption,or this link i have posted,why dont me and you talk about them so an intelligent conversation about Reagan CAN take place? Its better than talking to a brick wall like we have been agree? they didnt get enough of an ass beating in Dantes thread,so they can over for some more on this thread.hee hee.

 

[Meathead]

you know? since the Reagan apologists wont address facts liek the one you posted,or the ones in that cartoon caption,or this link i have posted,why dont me and you talk about them so an intelligent conversation about Reagan CAN take place? Its better than talking to a brick wall like we have been agree? they didnt get enough of an ass beating in Dantes thread,so they can over for some more on this thread.hee hee.

Do you honestly expect anyone except other dingbatss like yourself to take you seriously going by your posts and your very name?!

And trust me, those that do are as disturbed as yourself.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

If "Reagan's prosperity was built on credit" where's Obama's prosperity?

One Obama deficit > all of Reagans

One Obama Deficit > any Reagan budget

We can agree Obama is over his head with a lot less experience and lower quality help managing bureaucracies than Reagan had. I'm not here to defend or apologize for Obama - who didn't get my vote in 2012; Gary Johnson did, although after 2004 I made a promise to vote against the nutball in 2008 - even if the name was Jesus Christ.

Nutballs elected Obama in 2004 by re electing the most MEASURABLY failed president in US history. In 2008 there were millions like me who in 2004 had committed to vote for the Democrat in 2008, even if they ran the literal Devil.

Bottom line: loathing Reagan is not the same thing as supporting Obama. For my money Clinton belongs in prison today for what he did in Yugoslavia. Beside Junebug Bush for what he did in Iraq.

If "Reagan's prosperity was built on credit" where's Obama's prosperity?

One Obama deficit > all of Reagans

One Obama Deficit > any Reagan budget

Sorry, I'm not seeing your explanation of why only Reagan's deficits bought us prosperity. Want to phone a friend, maybe Krugman and ask for help?

Can you read? It is right in front of you in bright red.

HE can,but YOU cant.well you can when you want to but again you only selectively read PARTS of posts.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtYdjbpBk6A]Reagan at Brandenburg Gate - "tear down this wall" - YouTube[/ame]

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate in West Berlin, Germany. June 12, 1987.

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall."

Then the wall magically came down, not because of Reagan, right? Gorby wanted the wall down, right?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

you know? since the Reagan apologists wont address facts liek the one you posted,or the ones in that cartoon caption,or this link i have posted,why dont me and you talk about them so an intelligent conversation about Reagan CAN take place? Its better than talking to a brick wall like we have been agree? they didnt get enough of an ass beating in Dantes thread,so they can over for some more on this thread.hee hee.

Do you honestly expect anyone except other dingbatss like yourself to take you seriously going by your posts and your very name?!

And trust me, those that do are as disturbed as yourself.

nice game of dodgeball you play as always. oh he has given me positive rep before in posts about reagan, so since you reagan apologists keep playing dodgeball with that link,im left to ask someone who has giveen me positive rep before because of my posts on reagan. Like anyone is going to take anything serious by a person names MEATHEAD which is what your brain is which is why that user name is so appropriate for you.. you shoot the messengers here cause the truth hurts knowing you cant counter it so it makes you feel good about yourself to shoot the messenger instead of addressing facts. great debater you are.

oh and you ignore as well that all that stuff dugdale posted that I was commenting on has been ignored as well as has that cartoon caption of FACTS someone else posted. you cant handle the truth so nice job of evading the facts changing the subject talking about my user name.

thats so typical of you reagan apologists though,evade facts and not discuss them anytime ANY of us present them to you,and change the subject. but this is the kind of post i would expect from someone named MEATHEAD.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate - "tear down this wall" - YouTube

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate in West Berlin, Germany. June 12, 1987.

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall."

Then the wall magically came down, not because of Reagan, right? Gorby wanted the wall down, right?

playing dodgeball as always frank is avoiding that link of mine,post# 130 and the cartoon caption like all reagan apologists.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate - "tear down this wall" - YouTube

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate in West Berlin, Germany.

A pretty girl at the Eiffel Tower, Paris, France.
Let's compare the hard costs vs the proven dollar benefits of the trip, shall we?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate - "tear down this wall" - YouTube

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate in West Berlin, Germany. June 12, 1987.

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall."

Then the wall magically came down, not because of Reagan, right? Gorby wanted the wall down, right?

Only the Wall was in Berlin, not Russia.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

An excuse followed by a lie. You can take the boy out of the trailer, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy, it seems. Although to be fair you get credit for acknowledging the truth about Junebug. That is a welcome admission and a surprise.

Every single word of my post is accurate. That is 100%.

While your defense of the Bobbleheaded One is an embarrassment on your behalf to honest persons of normal emotional maturity and an IQ over about sixty. Reagan's prosperity was built in credit. Wny don't you borrow as much as you, your father and your grandfathers spent over yours and their working lives and then continue to borrow to pay expenses plus to pay back debt coming due and see how that works out? That was - and in fact remains the ReagaNUT style "new economy" to the current second.

Interesting to note that you have joined the legions of mental defectives criticizing one president who doesn't control congress while using a much better congressional relationship as an excuse for another. Tut, tut. Damned bad form, sonny.

Dug, I realized after your claim that Congress and the President didn't make the to cut the deficit, that it was pointless to try to debate. Also a person that resorts to name calling as a way the some how thinks it makes points, is also just as pointless.

Everyone has a right to an opinion based on their perception, it doesn't mean their perception is reality. BTW, for the record,

And I highly doubt me thinking what you think is bullshit, led us to where we are today.

You don't even get the point, Papa-g. My post is verifiable fact. My post is based on verifiable hard measures in the record book. My post isn't filtered through emotion, it is from the public record.

Please spare yourself the embarrassment of passive-aggressive excuses. What led us to where we are today is people like you trusting the scum of the earth and then being unable to face the facts. As you note above, you don't want to discuss the facts, you are more interested in "feelings" aka your own emotionally filtered perceptions.

The United States is where it is because too many people do not verify how the words of their own politicians match their deeds. Nothing Reagan did on the fiscal side matched his chatter. Using name calling as an excuse for not proving Reagan is what you believe he was is just real lame, there, bud.

To sum up
1. Every word of my post is true. There isn't a false word.
2. Excuses don't matter. Excuses are not on the table among winners.

On the editorial side, 100% of honest, decent people can agree there is something fishy about criticizing Obama for executing Reagan fiscal policy WITHOUT ADMITTING REAGAN WAS WRONG AND WHY IN SOME DETAIL.

Effective, durable solutions on any scale are process-based. What did Reagan get wrong, and what are the steps to fix that. Until the admission is made, Obama is just following the master. Down the drain, to be sure, but apparently that is what Reagan wanted.

One suspects that deep within you are memories of your parents, ruminations on an America that believed in accountability, and remembrances of times before Reagan divided America against itself using religious nonsense and cold war bogusness. Those memories of that America tell you who has the high ground here.

exactly.Thats exactly what led us to where we are today is all these reagan apologists trusting the scum of the earth and not able to face facts.None of the reagan apologists here want to discuss facts as evidenced by this reply and franks posts.

its great to see someone on here who understands how corrupt Reagan really was.


Thats exactly what i was saying earlier before in an earlier post that Obama has executed fiscal policy reagan style when his fiscal policy was destructive to america.

The Reagan apologists are doing the same exact same thing with your post,that they have with that cartoon caption someone posted earlier,dodge the facts just like they keep playing dodgeball refusing to address any of these hard verifiable facts in this link of mine they all refuse to read.

http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/Reagan.html


you know? since the Reagan apologists wont address facts liek the one you posted,or the ones in that cartoon caption,or this link i have posted,why dont me and you talk about them so an intelligent conversation about Reagan CAN take place? Its better than talking to a brick wall like we have been agree? they didnt get enough of an ass beating in Dantes thread,so they can over for some more on this thread.hee hee.

Reagan cut=and-ran in Lebanon dishonoring the memory of all those dead US Marines and others. Over 200 people.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate - "tear down this wall" - YouTube

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate in West Berlin, Germany. June 12, 1987.

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall."

Then the wall magically came down, not because of Reagan, right? Gorby wanted the wall down, right?

Only the Wall was in Berlin, not Russia.

ReagaNUTs are about as stupid as it gets, Dante. Unable to do research, they prefer the tit-like soft security of fantasy (which for most of them the tit is another fantasy). It tickles the hell out of me that by 1980 Russia was trying to figure out how to stop supporting the parasites it created on its western border and White Trash America's halfwit windmill tilter, Dawn Peyote Reagan spent a trillion speeding it up by six months.

Fucking pathetic.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate - "tear down this wall" - YouTube

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate in West Berlin, Germany. June 12, 1987.

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall."

Then the wall magically came down, not because of Reagan, right? Gorby wanted the wall down, right?

Only the Wall was in Berlin, not Russia.

ReagaNUTs are about as stupid as it gets, Dante. Unable to do research, they prefer the tit-like soft security of fantasy (which for most of them the tit is another fantasy). It tickles the hell out of me that by 1980 Russia was trying to figure out how to stop supporting the parasites it created on its western border and White Trash America's halfwit windmill tilter, Dawn Peyote Reagan spent a trillion speeding it up by six months.

Fucking pathetic.

I agree 100% Reagan left us with the idea Cheney and others celebrated 'Reagan,' Vice President Dick Cheney famously declared in 2002, 'proved deficits don't matter.' Unless, that is, a Democrat is in the White House.

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