"... raped by her uncle t... has to carry the child to term?"

[TNHarley]

You just don't understand correct meanings.

You mean i dont imagine words to mean different things like you?
Hey genius, how am i misinterpreting this?
Human being : any individual of the genus Homo, especially a member of the species Homo sapiens

 

[PoliticalChic]

MMMMMMM I love grilled chicken
View attachment 524751

I don't see any citations from scientists, biologists, authorities of any variety.....just a dope....you.


Can you provide any authorities, biologists, who say this sort of nonsense?

"... raped by her uncle t... has to carry the child to term?" Post 101

"Fetuses arent human beings. Period."


"Im just saying a fetus isnt a human being."

"... raped by her uncle t... has to carry the child to term?" post 136







"They arent human beings."

"... raped by her uncle t... has to carry the child to term?" post 131

 

[EvilCat Breath]

MMMMMMM I love grilled chicken
View attachment 524751this is proof positive that you have no understanding of biology at all.

An unfertilized egg is not a stage of development for chickens. A fertilized egg from which a chicken will hatch is a stage of development. It is not a separate species. A chicken egg will never hatch a turkey or an alligator.

 

[PoliticalChic]

An unfertilized egg is not a stage of development for chickens. A fertilized egg from which a chicken will hatch is a stage of development. It is not a separate species. A chicken egg will never hatch a turkey or an alligator.

You have him at a disadvantage: you passed biology.

 

[Likkmee]

I don't see any citations from scientists, biologists, authorities of any variety.....just a dope....you.


Can you provide any authorities, biologists, who say this sort of nonsense?

"... raped by her uncle t... has to carry the child to term?" Post 101

"Fetuses arent human beings. Period."


"Im just saying a fetus isnt a human being."

"... raped by her uncle t... has to carry the child to term?" post 136







"They arent human beings."

"... raped by her uncle t... has to carry the child to term?" post 131

The fertilized egg is a walrus initially? My sis was sure hers was a kangaroo from all the kicking.
He was a good kicker until the vietcong taught him shit on a stick 101

 

[TNHarley]

An unfertilized egg is not a stage of development for chickens. A fertilized egg from which a chicken will hatch is a stage of development. It is not a separate species. A chicken egg will never hatch a turkey or an alligator.

How do you know it was unfertilized? You dont.
I ate fertilized eggs all the time when I had a bunch of chickens. Besides having to pluck all the feathers out, I couldnt tell a difference
Try again

 

[TNHarley]

but since my eggs were fertilized, I should call them chickens. According to the biologists in here

 

[Likkmee]

An unfertilized egg is not a stage of development for chickens. A fertilized egg from which a chicken will hatch is a stage of development. It is not a separate species. A chicken egg will never hatch a turkey or an alligator.

They're working on that too,I'm sure.
Hey lets get us a grant for a few dozen million and have at it !
Got any family in upper govt ?
We could do a PH on the side for extra cash. Alligator fucking a chicken 10,000,000 watchers. $$$$

 

[danielpalos]

While the real reason that the Left.....the forces arrayed against the values of Western Civilization, ie, the value of human life....opposes any restrictions on abortion, is the gratification of the desire to use abortion as birth control, a Mississippi law is about to put this question in the spotlight yet again.



1. "On Sunday's State of the Union show. CNN host Jake Tapper fretted over a Mississippi law that tries to abolish abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy, bringing up the issue of the bill not allowing rape as an exception to the 15-week rule.

After Tapper raised the law by asking Governor Tate Reeves (R-MS) if he hoped that that it would result in the U.S. Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade, and then followed up: "And what do you say to a Mississippian who says, "Why are you telling a girl who has been raped by her uncle that she has to carry the child to term?"

CNN vs. CNN: Tapper Presses GOP Governor From Left on Abortion

On Sunday's State of the Union show. CNN host Jake Tapper fretted over a Mississippi law that tries to abolish abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy, bringing up the issue of the bill not allowing rape as an exception to the 15-week rule. After Tapper raised the law by asking Governor Tate Reeves...

www.newsbusters.org

2. What is most interesting is not that the Left objects to the 15-week as the time of viability outside the womb.....as of now it is about 20 weeks.......but that they are not claiming that either the unborn is a human being, or that it would go on to be a human being sans the bloody hands of the infanticide party killing it.

3. Now......the hand-wringing over carrying a child created by incest or rape....
By now, most know- whether they will admit it or not- that abortion is basically the coward's chosen method of birth control.



3. Never mind the bogus 'incest, and rape' ....

The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest.http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

How about simply outlawing all fetus-murders that don't involve incest or rape?

Are Democrats down with that???


4. The overwhelming basis used for killing the unborn is convenience.

Convenience, as in having your groceries delivered rather than having to walk across the street to pick them up.....this level of effort in deciding to execute the child you've created.

Nearly all abortions are based on the birth being inconvenient......as though the 'client' didn't know about the causation of pregnancy,


5. And let's be clear: the Democrat Party is fully in favor of killing not just the unborn, but the new born as well.
Democrat Virginia Governor, and medical doctor, Northam, adhered to and explained that Democrat principle, here: "If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.” Fake News: Liberal Rag Says Trump Lied About VA Governor's Support For After Birth Abortion. Uh, There's Tape.



Do you need the definition of 'infanticide'?

“What happens when the mother and doctor decide not to let the infant live?

Do they withhold care and let the infant die on its own or do they kill the infant? And how?

The media claims Trump’s comment is incorrect, but no one in the abortion industry will answer the question.”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





"Exactly zero Democratic senators voted to protect pain-capable children? Have they not been paying attention to the laws in states like Illinois, New Mexico, New York, Vermont, and Virginia? The Democratic governor of Virginia — a man considered a moderate in his party — proved on live radio that the Post’s description is inaccurate.

A born, living human being—with no human rights. That is the position of the Democratic Party. The Democratic platform calls for worldwide, unlimited, taxpayer-funded elective abortion on demand. Not only that, but the Democratic establishment also promises a litmus test for federal judges who will rule without fail for elective abortion on demand, no matter what the law or facts provide. The Democratic establishment is a hotbed of abortion extremism the likes of which we have never before seen on a national scale.”
Washington Post Lies About Democratic Party’s Support For Infanticide




I don't have much faith in the Supreme Court.....


......but I do know the difference between right and wrong.

Better contraception at lower cost!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You mean i dont imagine words to mean different things like you?
Hey genius, how am i misinterpreting this?
Human being : any individual of the genus Homo, especially a member of the species Homo sapiens

You are not understanding that an unborn baby is a member of the genus homo sapient. Your understanding is that as long as the fetus is dependent on the mother's womb it is not a human being but something else. That's untrue. Mammals give birth by live birth. The offspring are gestated within the body of the mother and born alive. Unlike oviparous species that lay eggs and the young are gestated within the egg. When sufficiently matured the young will break out of the egg. Many species will still rely on feeding from it's parent.

Mammals give birth to others of it's kind. Males, females, the young, the unborn, are still of the same species even though during the period of gestation the young is wholly within and wholly dependent on the mother for survival. An unborn horse is still a horse. Not a separate species of creature. An unborn dog is still a dog. An unborn child is still a human being.

The concept is perfectly understandable until it comes to abortion. People do not want to face the biological fact that an unborn person is a person so they make up fictions to justify the murder. It's not a human being. It is something else. If we can kill a tapeworm we can kill an unborn baby because they are the same thing. Depriving a person of humanity for guilt free killing is not new. Jews were not human beings, to Tutsis the Hutus were not human beings. To many maleducated scholars black people are not human but an entirely different species, homo sapien africanus. At one time there was no penalty for killing them.

Stop making yourself feel good. Abortion is murder. Own it and move on. It is perfectly legal.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

How do you know it was unfertilized? You dont.
I ate fertilized eggs all the time when I had a bunch of chickens. Besides having to pluck all the feathers out, I couldnt tell a difference
Try again

So. You ate a chicken embryo. Chicken embryos are not a subspecies of bird.

 

[TNHarley]

You are not understanding that an unborn baby is a member of the genus homo sapient.

OMFG no shit! I havent even implied anything else. Jesus Fucking Christ
You really need to brush up on terminology and your literacy.
AGAIN, a human being isnt a species. Homo sapiens are; which we are a member of. Aaaaaand unborn children are as well.
Do you understand yet?

 

[TNHarley]

So. You ate a chicken embryo. Chicken embryos are not a subspecies of bird.

I love scrambled chicken, dont you?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

OMFG no shit! I havent even implied anything else. Jesus Fucking Christ
You really need to brush up on terminology and your literacy.
AGAIN, a human being isnt a species. Homo sapiens are; which we are a member of. Aaaaaand unborn children are as well.
Do you understand yet?

Then it is murder kill one.

 

[TNHarley]

Then it is murder kill one.

It being "murder" is subjective. Either argument, IMO, is reasonable.
As I said earlier, I think abortion is horrible. I just think the state forcing gestation is worse.

 

[Iamartiewhitefox]

While the real reason that the Left.....the forces arrayed against the values of Western Civilization, ie, the value of human life....opposes any restrictions on abortion, is the gratification of the desire to use abortion as birth control, a Mississippi law is about to put this question in the spotlight yet again.



1. "On Sunday's State of the Union show. CNN host Jake Tapper fretted over a Mississippi law that tries to abolish abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy, bringing up the issue of the bill not allowing rape as an exception to the 15-week rule.

After Tapper raised the law by asking Governor Tate Reeves (R-MS) if he hoped that that it would result in the U.S. Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade, and then followed up: "And what do you say to a Mississippian who says, "Why are you telling a girl who has been raped by her uncle that she has to carry the child to term?"

CNN vs. CNN: Tapper Presses GOP Governor From Left on Abortion

On Sunday's State of the Union show. CNN host Jake Tapper fretted over a Mississippi law that tries to abolish abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy, bringing up the issue of the bill not allowing rape as an exception to the 15-week rule. After Tapper raised the law by asking Governor Tate Reeves...

www.newsbusters.org

2. What is most interesting is not that the Left objects to the 15-week as the time of viability outside the womb.....as of now it is about 20 weeks.......but that they are not claiming that either the unborn is a human being, or that it would go on to be a human being sans the bloody hands of the infanticide party killing it.

3. Now......the hand-wringing over carrying a child created by incest or rape....
By now, most know- whether they will admit it or not- that abortion is basically the coward's chosen method of birth control.



3. Never mind the bogus 'incest, and rape' ....

The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest.http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

How about simply outlawing all fetus-murders that don't involve incest or rape?

Are Democrats down with that???


4. The overwhelming basis used for killing the unborn is convenience.

Convenience, as in having your groceries delivered rather than having to walk across the street to pick them up.....this level of effort in deciding to execute the child you've created.

Nearly all abortions are based on the birth being inconvenient......as though the 'client' didn't know about the causation of pregnancy,


5. And let's be clear: the Democrat Party is fully in favor of killing not just the unborn, but the new born as well.
Democrat Virginia Governor, and medical doctor, Northam, adhered to and explained that Democrat principle, here: "If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.” Fake News: Liberal Rag Says Trump Lied About VA Governor's Support For After Birth Abortion. Uh, There's Tape.



Do you need the definition of 'infanticide'?

“What happens when the mother and doctor decide not to let the infant live?

Do they withhold care and let the infant die on its own or do they kill the infant? And how?

The media claims Trump’s comment is incorrect, but no one in the abortion industry will answer the question.”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





"Exactly zero Democratic senators voted to protect pain-capable children? Have they not been paying attention to the laws in states like Illinois, New Mexico, New York, Vermont, and Virginia? The Democratic governor of Virginia — a man considered a moderate in his party — proved on live radio that the Post’s description is inaccurate.

A born, living human being—with no human rights. That is the position of the Democratic Party. The Democratic platform calls for worldwide, unlimited, taxpayer-funded elective abortion on demand. Not only that, but the Democratic establishment also promises a litmus test for federal judges who will rule without fail for elective abortion on demand, no matter what the law or facts provide. The Democratic establishment is a hotbed of abortion extremism the likes of which we have never before seen on a national scale.”
Washington Post Lies About Democratic Party’s Support For Infanticide




I don't have much faith in the Supreme Court.....


......but I do know the difference between right and wrong.

Money says kill. You don't have enough of me.

 

[Am3rikan-Warri0r]

Situations like this are really messed up. Just like with the vaccine being your choice what to put in your body it should also be your choice to choose to terminate a pregnancy if you were raped... Not cool

 

[PoliticalChic]

Situations like this are really messed up. Just like with the vaccine being your choice what to put in your body it should also be your choice to choose to terminate a pregnancy if you were raped... Not cool

For clarity, the vaccine note is correct.....it is your body.

The individual you wish to kill isn't.


The unborn human receiving sustenance from its mother, is, nonetheless, a separate and distinct human being.

There are a number of clear biological facts, and all sorts of legal precedents, that easily refute the claim that the embryo or fetus is simply part of the mother's body.

1. An individual's body parts all share the same genetic code. If the unborn child were actually a part of the mother's body, the unborn's cells would have the same genetic code as the cells of the mother. This is not the case. Every cell of the unborn's body is genetically distinct from every cell in the mother's body.
2. In many cases, the blood type of the unborn child is different than the blood type of the mother. Since one body cannot function with two different blood types, this is clearly not the mother's blood.
3. In half of all pregnancies, the unborn child is a male, meaning that even the sex of the child is different from the mother.
4. As Randy Alcorn states in his book Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Arguments, "A Chinese zygote implanted in a Swedish woman will always be Chinese, not Swedish, because his identity is based on his genetic code, not on that of the body in which he resides."1
5. It is possible for a fetus to die while the mother lives, and it is possible for the mother to die while the fetus lives. This could not be true if the mother and child were simply one person.
6. When the embryo implants in the lining of the uterus, it emits chemical substances which weaken the woman's immune system within the uterus so that this tiny "foreign" body is not rejected by the woman's body. Were this tiny embryo simply "part of the woman's body" there would be no need to locally disable the woman's immunities.
7. It is illegal to execute a pregnant woman on death row because the fetus living inside her is a distinct human being who cannot be executed for the crimes of the mother (International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: Article 6.5).
8. When Scott Peterson killed his pregnant wife, Laci, he was convicted on two counts of murder.
9. Sir Albert Liley (the "Father of Fetology") made this observation in a 1970 speech entitled, "The Termination of Pregnancy or the Extermination of the Fetus?"

Physiologically, we must accept that the conceptus is, in a very large measure, in charge of the pregnancy.... Biologically, at no stage can we subscribe to the view that the fetus is a mere appendage of the mother.2

1. The late Christopher Hitchens, a prominent public intellectual, atheist, and abortion advocate wrote the following in his book, God is Not Great:

As a materialist, I think it has been demonstrated that an embryo is a separate body and entity, and not merely (as some really did used to argue) a growth on or in the female body. There used to be feminists who would say that it was more like an appendix or even—this was seriously maintained—a tumor. That nonsense seems to have stopped… Embryology confirms morality. The words “unborn child,” even when used in a politicized manner, describe a material reality.3

Hitchens had other reasons for supporting legal abortion, but he recognized the absurdity of claiming that unborn children are simply part of the mother's body.

No matter how you spin it, women don't have four arms and four legs when they're pregnant. Those extra appendages belong to the tiny human being(s) living inside of them. At no point in pregnancy is the developing embryo or fetus simply a part of the mother's body.

Footnotes

1. Randy Alcorn, Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Arguments (Multnomah Publishers, 2000) p. 57.
2. Sir William Albert Liley,“The Termination of Pregnancy or the Extermination of the Fetus?” cited by Randy Alcorn, Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Arguments, 58.
3. Christopher Hitchens, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything (Hachette Book Group. Kindle Edition, 2009), 378-379.

Part of the Mother’s Body?

The slogan,

www.abort73.com

Is there any argument for the "right" of a woman to authorize the killing of her unborn baby that would not apply to her authorizing the similar slaughter of a year old that she was breastfeeding?




“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Thomas Jefferson.


And based on the above, every American is pro-life.

 

[Papageorgio]

The fertilized egg is a walrus initially? My sis was sure hers was a kangaroo from all the kicking.
He was a good kicker until the vietcong taught him shit on a stick 101

I am the Eggman, I am the Eggman, I am the Walrus goo goo gojoob!

 

[rightnow909]

Look at the horrible animals here wanting a woman to carry an incest rape baby to term. The world would be better if it were rid of these vile monsters.

the irony!

it's not a vile monster who murders a helpless child... No, the monster is the one who would not have that...

sheez....