Random Truths

[PoliticalChic]

On January 8, 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson delivered a State of the Union address to Congress in which he declared an “unconditional war on poverty in America.”

"Since that time[January, 1964], U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs (in constant 2012 dollars). Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all military wars in U.S. history since the American Revolution. Despite this mountain of spending, progress against poverty, at least as measured by the government, has been minimal."
The War on Poverty After 50 Years

"Throwing money at the problem has neither reduced poverty nor made the poor self-sufficient."
Scribd



Which brings us to Random Truth of the day, number nine.

9. Charities are better at providing for needy than the government.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Moving from the death penalty to......the death penalty.


There are good reasons to take the life of a guilty individual....but who would make the argument that caprice is a justifiable reason for snuffing out a life?


Caprice.....that means on a whim....a mood....an impulse or a quirk.
Yet just about every single annihilation of an unborn human being is on just such a basis.

That is the Liberal pro-choice movement. To cover the immorality, Liberals say it saves the life of the mother....or it is due to rape or incest.

Hardly.



Random Truth #7 for today:



7. Almost every single abortion in America is for convenience, caprice, whim....95.7% of them.


“The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman’s education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents’ or partners’ desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.”
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf


A clear indication that Liberalism is barbaric and immoral.

There's just no end to you is there? Abortion is a complicated issue, far more complicated than the bumper sticker mentality that Political Clueless can process.

But let me make her case for her. All she has to do is convince the class that to truly consider abortion to be the murder of another human being is to explain to us why conservatives don't have a funeral for miscarriages and demand that a death certificate be issued.

1. "There's just no end to you is there?"
Are you wishing that there were 'an end'???
Well, then....what forces you to....I had a professor who used the phrase 'he sticks to me like manure to a wet blanket.'
Now I see what he meant.

2."Abortion is a complicated issue...."
No it isn't.
It is putting 'an end' to a life.
Specifically, the life of a human being.

3. "...convince the class that to truly consider abortion to be the murder of another human being is to explain to us why conservatives don't have a funeral for miscarriages and demand that a death certificate be issued."
Look at that.
I don't have to spend time revealing you to be a fool....you did it yourself.


4. But...please....prove definitively that you are a Liberal:
Is abortion taking of a life?
Is the life taken that of a human being?


5. The import of the post to which you are responding is centered on the reason behind the abortion, and I documented that it is almost always for a whim, a convenience...you know, like having your dinner delivered rather than cooking it yourself.

Ahh hahaha, completely evading the question again and again. You're exposed as a fraud and no conservative. A real conservative would be able to answer without hesitation. Go back to school you phony.

I asked this:

4. But...please....prove definitively that you are a Liberal:
Is abortion taking of a life?
Is the life taken that of a human being?


Why so afraid to answer?

Abortion kills a fetus, not a person. The same, in most cases, as unplugging the brain-dead from life support. The person is already gone and in the case of abortion, never was.

"....in the case of abortion, [the person] never was

a. By 8 weeks after fertilization, the unborn child reacts to touch. After 20 weeks, the unborn child reacts to stimuli that would be recognized as painful if applied to an adult human, for example by recoiling.

b. For the purposes of surgery on unborn children, fetal anesthesia is routinely administered and is associated with a decrease in stress hormones compared to their level when painful stimuli are applied without such anesthesia.

c. Kadić, 2012, page 3, “The earliest reactions to painful stimuli motor reflexes can be detected at 7.5 weeks of gestation (Table 2).”

Salihagić Kadić, A., Predojević, M., Fetal neurophysiology according to gestational age, Seminars in Fetal & Neonatal Medicine. 17:5 (2012) 1–5, 3.


d. Bocci, 2007, page 31-32, “By week 14, the repertoire of movements is complete. Fetal movements may be spontaneous, reflecting individual needs of the fetus, or may be evoked, reflecting fetal sensitivity to its environment.”

C. Bocchi et al, Ultrasound and Fetal Stress: Study of the Fetal Blink-Startle Reflex Evoked by Acoustic Stimuli. Neonatal Pain, ed. Giuseppe Buonocore & Carlo V. Bellieni (Milan: Springer, 2007), 31–32.

 

[PoliticalChic]

One party, the Democrat Party, thrives by manipulating the uninformed.



This, from the White House, under a picture of Barack Obama:

"Did You Know That Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men?

On average, full-time working women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns. This significant gap is more than a statistic -- it has real life consequences. When women, who make up nearly half the workforce, bring home less money each day, it means they have less for the everyday needs of their families, and over a lifetime of work, far less savings for retirement."
Did You Know That Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men?


One can certainly understand politicians lying.....

...but there is only one explanation for those who don't know they are being lied to.....
....stupidity.



So....what does this tale have to do with Random Truth number ten?


10 Equal pay for men and women has been the law since 1963

1. 
   
   • The Equal Pay Act of 1963 is a United States federal law amending the Fair Labor Standards Act, aimed at abolishing wage disparity based on sex (see Gender pay gap). It was signed into law on June 10, 1963, by John F. Kennedy as part of his New Frontier Program.
     Equal Pay Act of 1963 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaEqual_Pay_Act_of_1963
     Wikipedia

 

[nuhuh]

One party, the Democrat Party, thrives by manipulating the uninformed.



This, from the White House, under a picture of Barack Obama:

"Did You Know That Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men?

On average, full-time working women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns. This significant gap is more than a statistic -- it has real life consequences. When women, who make up nearly half the workforce, bring home less money each day, it means they have less for the everyday needs of their families, and over a lifetime of work, far less savings for retirement."
Did You Know That Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men?


One can certainly understand politicians lying.....

...but there is only one explanation for those who don't know they are being lied to.....
....stupidity.



So....what does this tale have to do with Random Truth number ten?


10 Equal pay for men and women has been the law since 1963

1. 
   
   • The Equal Pay Act of 1963 is a United States federal law amending the Fair Labor Standards Act, aimed at abolishing wage disparity based on sex (see Gender pay gap). It was signed into law on June 10, 1963, by John F. Kennedy as part of his New Frontier Program.
     Equal Pay Act of 1963 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaEqual_Pay_Act_of_1963
     Wikipedia

PC you are such a phony. If those laws were enforced we would have equal pay don't you think? Businesses have pushed back against the law and have made salary information secret and a termination offense if discussed in the workplace among other things. So, the question is do we need new and more powerful law or do we need to enforce current law?

 

[Timmy]

I call bullshit on the war on poverty costing 3x more than wars .

 

[danielpalos]

And, in a moment, Random Truth number eight....yet another truth that skewers Liberal doctrine.

First, a reminder.....the term 'the law of the land.'
We find it in Articel VI...."This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."


Random Truth # 8. Nothing in the Constitution supports redistributing wealth.

dear, simply paying the debts and providing for the common defense and general welfare, redistributes wealth.

 

[danielpalos]

On January 8, 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson delivered a State of the Union address to Congress in which he declared an “unconditional war on poverty in America.”

"Since that time[January, 1964], U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs (in constant 2012 dollars). Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all military wars in U.S. history since the American Revolution. Despite this mountain of spending, progress against poverty, at least as measured by the government, has been minimal."
The War on Poverty After 50 Years

"Throwing money at the problem has neither reduced poverty nor made the poor self-sufficient."
Scribd



Which brings us to Random Truth of the day, number nine.

9. Charities are better at providing for needy than the government.

dear, that is simple bad management, not socialism. and, our war on poverty works to the extent the right complains our poor are not poor enough by absolute Standards of poverty; and, should be denied and disparaged in their Individual Liberty (via socialism) from being Good capitalists and purchasing steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

 

[danielpalos]

One party, the Democrat Party, thrives by manipulating the uninformed.



This, from the White House, under a picture of Barack Obama:

"Did You Know That Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men?

On average, full-time working women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns. This significant gap is more than a statistic -- it has real life consequences. When women, who make up nearly half the workforce, bring home less money each day, it means they have less for the everyday needs of their families, and over a lifetime of work, far less savings for retirement."
Did You Know That Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men?


One can certainly understand politicians lying.....

...but there is only one explanation for those who don't know they are being lied to.....
....stupidity.



So....what does this tale have to do with Random Truth number ten?


10 Equal pay for men and women has been the law since 1963

1. 
   
   • The Equal Pay Act of 1963 is a United States federal law amending the Fair Labor Standards Act, aimed at abolishing wage disparity based on sex (see Gender pay gap). It was signed into law on June 10, 1963, by John F. Kennedy as part of his New Frontier Program.
     Equal Pay Act of 1963 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaEqual_Pay_Act_of_1963
     Wikipedia

dear, if the private sector is not wrong about pay scales in the porn sector, it cannot be wrong about pay scales in the non-porn sector.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I call bullshit on the war on poverty costing 3x more than wars .

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/108054.pdf

Do the math.

 

[danielpalos]

Here it is; just socialism bailing out Capitalism, like usual:
So, how are poor households today doing? Rector and Sheffield offer a few statistics: eighty percent of America's poor households have air conditioning, two-thirds have cable or satellite television, half have a personal computer and 43 percent have access to the internet. - See more at: The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion

 

[Timmy]

I call bullshit on the war on poverty costing 3x more than wars .

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/108054.pdf

Do the math.

Bullshit fuzzy math. The link spends a whole page qualifying their estimates . Total lowballing .

Iraq alone is considered to cost over a trillion .

 

[TemplarKormac]

I call bullshit on the war on poverty costing 3x more than wars .

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/108054.pdf

Do the math.

Bullshit fuzzy math. The link spends a whole page qualifying their estimates . Total lowballing .

Iraq alone is considered to cost over a trillion .

Ha! Total dishonesty.

So, prove how "fuzzy" the math is.

 

[Timmy]

I call bullshit on the war on poverty costing 3x more than wars .

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/108054.pdf

Do the math.

Bullshit fuzzy math. The link spends a whole page qualifying their estimates . Total lowballing .

Iraq alone is considered to cost over a trillion .

Ha! Total dishonesty.

So, prove how "fuzzy" the math is.

Real fuzzy . At least the war link explains it's math . The poverty link pulls a number from nowhere .

 

[TemplarKormac]

I call bullshit on the war on poverty costing 3x more than wars .

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/108054.pdf

Do the math.

Bullshit fuzzy math. The link spends a whole page qualifying their estimates . Total lowballing .

Iraq alone is considered to cost over a trillion .

Ha! Total dishonesty.

So, prove how "fuzzy" the math is.

Real fuzzy . At least the war link explains it's math . The poverty link pulls a number from nowhere .

If you dismiss this because of it being from Heritage, you're dishonest.

The War on Poverty After 50 Years

 

[nuhuh]

I call bullshit on the war on poverty costing 3x more than wars .

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/108054.pdf

Do the math.

Bullshit fuzzy math. The link spends a whole page qualifying their estimates . Total lowballing .

Iraq alone is considered to cost over a trillion .

Iraq is estimated to cost $6 trillion with added interest.

 

[billyerock1991]

Dear chics, simply lying to us and letting us miss our turn is not a very saleable skill set.

does simply being honest with us require too much bravery and too much "equality"?

As you have been unable to cite any such lies on my part.....

....you must be the one lying.

See what you missed out on by not taking 'Logic'?

There are so many conservative commentators, and conversations, that have contributed to these truths....you may recognize some of your words, as well.....

1. The Left survives on demonization of the Right…rather than debating ideas: they teach their drones that the Right is not wrong, but evil…
2. The minute you envy another, your happiness is injured,and breeds unhappiness. Religious folks tend to be happy with what they have. Thus Marx hated that view because the Utopia had to be here and now…
3. Government must be limited in scope Madison: laws must be simple clear few. Must be understood by all: otherwise it is government by experts, bureaucrats and technocrats. a. Sure enough, Liberals snap to attention when they hear 'studies show....'
4. Unlimited opportunity can only come with limited government.
5. What leftism has done to every profession is to put leftism above being good at the task…
   a. Famine under communist rule in the USSR is a perfect example.
   
   6. The danger is not a man like Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting the office of the presidency to a man like Barack Obama
   
   7. The mind of the Liberal: Whatever they imagine, they believe must be imposed.
   
   8. For Liberals, wishful thinking substitutes for an understanding of reality…thus…the view of the Arab Spring as a good thing…and overthrowing of Mubarak in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood
   
   9. We want liberty…but mistakenly say democracy…you can have democracy but deprive people of liberty (see Egypt)
   
   10. If the desire is for a ‘level playing field,’ how to explain progressive income tax?

it amazes me how you keep with the 1,2,3,4,5.,6,7,8,9,10 things of total bull shit ... the things you say about liberals ... what they are, or what they believe, is you showing how stupid you really are ...

Doesn't it amaze you that every single thing I say about Liberals/Progressives/Democrats is true and accurate, and I am able to document, link, and source all of 'those things.'

And....I do it without having to use the vulgarities that you Liberals/Progressives/Democrats regularly do?

And thank you for helping me prove one more 'Random Truth'.....Liberals/Progressives/Democrats have no class.


Now, write soon, y'hear?

Actuallyl they aren't true they are accusations that haven't any bases to them ... just your opinion of what you think a liberal is
you said ...
1.The Left survives on demonization of the Right…rather than debating ideas: they teach their drones that the Right is not wrong, but evil…
the fact that you don't like the answer from a liberal doesn't mean they are demonizing the right ... debate a Idea ??? you have never debated an Idea yet that Ive seen ...all you do is call us drones, sheep, and that's your debate in any of your 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, Post all you do is go off the assumption of what you say, not think, but say a liberal is... just like you did here ...
you said
2.The minute you envy another, your happiness is injured,and breeds unhappiness. Religious folks tend to be happy with what they have. Thus Marx hated that view because the Utopia had to be here and now…

this is the biggest crock of shit I've read to date... when a dems says the Religious people don't have the right to force their views on others, you and others like you come out with we hate Jesus or some other crock of shit ... we say a women has the right to choose ...you came back and say were a bunch of baby killers ... what's does that have to do with the women's right to choose ..just because we believe that a woman has the right to do with her body what ever she wants to ... you on the right can't grasp that thought ...you on the right believe you have the right to tell a woman what she can and can't do...
you said
3. Government must be limited in scope Madison: laws must be simple clear few. Must be understood by all: otherwise it is government by experts, bureaucrats and technocrats. a. Sure enough, Liberals snap to attention when they hear 'studies show....'


really, you want to say that ??? when we hear experts tell us information its now bureaucratic or technocrats??? this is moronic thinking on your part... what else do we have to rely on if we don't rely on the experts and the technology around us ... I realize you used the word technocrats... that you demogoging the democrats with word play ... if you want to rely on the church or wally down the street for your understanding so be it ... I rely on good experts and good science ... not some nut say what they believe is the truth like you do ... you saying we snap to attention is you being a bully towards us ...just becasue we hear some one speak about science ideas or giving us information .... you hate the Idea ... you hate the thought that we think first before we leap ... you hate the idea that we form our ideology around science and information... sad I say just plain sad on your part...

you said
4. Unlimited opportunity can only come with limited government.

this one I had to do my best to keep from laughing at you ... in the early 1900 the republicans led by this limited government Idea ... they said we don't need these regulations that cause companies to fail, banks to be able to make money... well come 1929 we all learned the hard way about how republicans think about regulations by all their deregulations we had the great depression... her comes 2007 ... here we go again ... 1999 we deregulated the bank ... this was start of the failing banking system .... Phil gram passing legislation saying that borrowers didn't have to have stellar credit to get a loan... why??? well Phil was leaving the government to go to the private sector .. to do what ??? make banking loans ... in 2003 phil wrote the American dreamdown payment bill... gave it to his republican legislators friends where the bill deregulated the loans laws even more ... they made it where banks didn't have to verify a loan ... because the loan was insured by AIG ... Aig didn't have to verify the bulk load just because the bank said the were good loans ... what happen their with that great deregulation ??? the banks sold bulk loans to unsuspecting loaners ... places like Fanny mae, freddie Mac, what happen their ??? they all defaulted because AIG said they were insured and we all found out they weren't ... so when you say opportunity can only come with limited government??? for who does the opportunity come to ??? not us we all lost out 401 k's retirements becasue of these so call limited government that you subscribe to....

you said
5.
What leftism has done to every profession is to put leftism above being good at the task…
a. Famine under communist rule in the USSR is a perfect example.

when we on the left say a farmer has to stop using a certain pesticide its because the science has shown that it has cause cancer or some other deformity in humans ... I deem that as being a good task ... the fact that you don't care what it causes to humans, tells us on the left you really don't care about peoples lives ... that you only care about how much money you're going to make on the deaths of others ...
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you said
6. The danger is not a man like Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting the office of the presidency to a man like Barack Obama

if the republicans allowed obama to pass the legislation that he felt would turn the country around, we would have been better off, in my opinion ... the fact that you take people like Boehner and McConnell Ideals is in your best interest, all it has done it stop anything that obama want to do ... that's fine, but don't come here and try to imply liberals citizenry isn't capable of understanding, what we as liberals believe as being uninformed ... you said we rely on science and technology to form our opinions on this so don' try this we are ignorant because we don't support your ideals of bend over here it comes ...

you said
7. The mind of the Liberal: Whatever they imagine, they believe must be imposed.

lets see the race to space a liberal imposition .. allowing the use of stem cells another liberal imposition build road and water for the country another liberal imposition ... the fact that you don't like a liberals Idea doesn't make it being imposed on all ... it imposes only on republicans who don't like the idea that by doing this it will improve the lives of the people in the country ... you don't like that Idea ... fine we get it ....

 

[billyerock1991]

political chi
you said
8. For Liberals, wishful thinking substitutes for an understanding of reality…thus…the view of the Arab Spring as a good thing…and overthrowing of Mubarak in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood

I don't know where any Liberal ever said or thought this was a good Idea ... I don't know of any liberals who has said Muslim Brotherhood was a good thing .. from the get go we said this is going to be a problem ... time and time again you make these false assumption on your part
you said
9. We want liberty…but mistakenly say democracy…you can have democracy but deprive people of liberty (see Egypt)

we had nothing to do with Egypt falling ... the people of Egypt took that path ... the people of Egypt decided to elect the brother hood .. now you want to blame the up rising of the middle east on us liberals ??? I think that honor goes to you republicans with WMD bull shit that started this mess ...this mess is on you republicans and like always you have to blame it on someone else ...

you said
10. If the desire is for a ‘level playing field,’ how to explain progressive income tax?

so your Idea is let the 1% have all the tax breaks and screw the middle class ... say like it is now .. hows that been working for us ... trillions dollars in debt and the 1% have more money then they can spend in ten of their life times .... you want to say that's a level playing field ??? really???

 

[billyerock1991]

I call bullshit on the war on poverty costing 3x more than wars .

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/108054.pdf

Do the math.

Bullshit fuzzy math. The link spends a whole page qualifying their estimates . Total lowballing .

Iraq alone is considered to cost over a trillion .

Iraq is estimated to cost $6 trillion with added interest.

the biggest propblems with republicans is they don't like the numbers when its put into their face ... the old deny button comes out ... right now the Afghan war has cost the US 6 trillion dollars ... and still you don't hear these republicans screaming about the debt their ... the feel hell lets start up a war in Seria ...l we can win it... then complain about the debt going out of control because some people are on welfare

 

[Conservative65]

I call bullshit on the war on poverty costing 3x more than wars .

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/108054.pdf

Do the math.

Bullshit fuzzy math. The link spends a whole page qualifying their estimates . Total lowballing .

Iraq alone is considered to cost over a trillion .

Iraq is estimated to cost $6 trillion with added interest.

the biggest propblems with republicans is they don't like the numbers when its put into their face ... the old deny button comes out ... right now the Afghan war has cost the US 6 trillion dollars ... and still you don't hear these republicans screaming about the debt their ... the feel hell lets start up a war in Seria ...l we can win it... then complain about the debt going out of control because some people are on welfare

Who did the estimating, some Liberal?

Here's a number for your some people on welfare. Since Obama took office, an increase of 70% has occurred with food stamps. Somewhere in the mid 40 millions are using them. There are record numbers no longer in the workforce.

Since Liberals started the war on poverty, $22 TRILLION have been spent on social welfare programs. The current percentage on welfare if the same as it was just before that $22 trillion was wasted.

 

[PoliticalChic]

One party, the Democrat Party, thrives by manipulating the uninformed.



This, from the White House, under a picture of Barack Obama:

"Did You Know That Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men?

On average, full-time working women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns. This significant gap is more than a statistic -- it has real life consequences. When women, who make up nearly half the workforce, bring home less money each day, it means they have less for the everyday needs of their families, and over a lifetime of work, far less savings for retirement."
Did You Know That Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men?


One can certainly understand politicians lying.....

...but there is only one explanation for those who don't know they are being lied to.....
....stupidity.



So....what does this tale have to do with Random Truth number ten?


10 Equal pay for men and women has been the law since 1963

1. 
   
   • The Equal Pay Act of 1963 is a United States federal law amending the Fair Labor Standards Act, aimed at abolishing wage disparity based on sex (see Gender pay gap). It was signed into law on June 10, 1963, by John F. Kennedy as part of his New Frontier Program.
     Equal Pay Act of 1963 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaEqual_Pay_Act_of_1963
     Wikipedia

PC you are such a phony. If those laws were enforced we would have equal pay don't you think? Businesses have pushed back against the law and have made salary information secret and a termination offense if discussed in the workplace among other things. So, the question is do we need new and more powerful law or do we need to enforce current law?

We do have equal pay for equal work.

Very easy to prove.

If it were true that women get 77 cents for each dollar that men get for the same work......

...those successful, profit-centered, greedy businessmen that you Liberal despise would simply fire all the men and hire women and add 23 percent profit to their bottom line.


Bet you feel like a fool right now, huh?