Rage on the Right

[Red Dawn]

not seeing any defense of bush there, am i missing something?

So, you have to be mean to Obama, because Democrats were right about Bush? He was a horrible president, a mental midget, and an incompetent boob?

Why would you feel compelled to seek "revenge" for the man that destroyed your party? I thought nearly everyone except the 22% dead enders hated bush? Your party could barely mention his name during the campaign, and all your political candiates refused to be seen in public with him.

Based on that behaviour, nearly everyone agrees Bush was a disaster. Liberals were right about him.

So, why the sudden urge to seek revenge on behalf of Bush? He destroyed your party, I sure as hell would be pissed at him as a repubican. That's what Willow is saying.

 

[editec]

Hating liberals for being right is an American value, too, ya know?

Sadly, the fact is that at the top of the heap, those terms are completely meaningless, which is something that I thought most of us would understand given the bail out.

Apparently, old habits like thinking the political game is really all about libs V cons is a hard one to break.

The problem is that down here in the trenches where most of us live those social issues really do matter.

 

[del]

So, you have to be mean to Obama, because Democrats were right about Bush? He was a horrible president, a mental midget, and an incompetent boob?

Why would you feel compelled to seek "revenge" for the man that destroyed your party? I thought nearly everyone except the 22% dead enders hated bush? Your party could barely mention his name during the campaign, and all your political candiates refused to be seen in public with him.

Based on that behaviour, nearly everyone agrees Bush was a disaster. Liberals were right about him.

So, why the sudden urge to seek revenge on behalf of Bush? He destroyed your party, I sure as hell would be pissed at him as a repubican. That's what Willow is saying.

let's start with it's not my party and work from there, shall we?

do you really think whoever was elected this year was going to get a free pass/honeymoon from the losing party? both sides are too far gone for that.

i think i'll let willow speak for herself, but like i said, i don't see any defense of bush there, just business as has unfortunately become usual

 

[WillowTree]

So, you have to be mean to Obama, because Democrats were right about Bush? He was a horrible president, a mental midget, and an incompetent boob?

Why would you feel compelled to seek "revenge" for the man that destroyed your party? I thought nearly everyone except the 22% dead enders hated bush? Your party could barely mention his name during the campaign, and all your political candiates refused to be seen in public with him.

Based on that behaviour, nearly everyone agrees Bush was a disaster. Liberals were right about him.

So, why the sudden urge to seek revenge on behalf of Bush? He destroyed your party, I sure as hell would be pissed at him as a repubican. That's what Willow is saying.

No, actually I wasn't saying.. I was responding to Silence when she said you did what you did to Bush because of what was done to Clinton,,, so then logically it follows "It's our turn now innit"?

 

[Murf76]

Hating liberals for being right is an American value, too, ya know?

Sadly, the fact is that at the top of the heap, those terms are completely meaningless, which is something that I thought most of us would understand given the bail out.

Apparently, old habits like thinking the political game is really all about libs V cons is a hard one to break.

The problem is that down here in the trenches where most of us live those social issues really do matter.

It's all about Collectivism vs. Individualism (Liberty). "Issues" don't mean shit, if one must give up Freedom in the exchange.

This country has been trending socialist for quite awhile now... and you're right about one thing, Republicans have not stood their ground on that. But if there's a lesson to be learned from all this... it's that no compromise is possible with collectivists. "Bipartisanship" is a mistake unless it directly supports the cause of Liberty.

 

[Bern80]

Hating liberals for being right is an American value, too, ya know?

Sadly, the fact is that at the top of the heap, those terms are completely meaningless, which is something that I thought most of us would understand given the bail out.

Apparently, old habits like thinking the political game is really all about libs V cons is a hard one to break.

The problem is that down here in the trenches where most of us live those social issues really do matter.

Except liberals aren't right. Yet another false link made by the left that because the other side got it wrong it makes them inherently right.

 

[rayboyusmc]

The right wing attack machine kept on Clinton for all eight years. They started with Whitewater and when that went dry just went fishing until he got BJed. If we had spend that kind of money on Bush, he would be in jail today or living with his Saudi Benefactors.

I, and many other lefties, didn't start attacking Bush until after 9-11 when he started using this to get his way. His unneede war in Iraq and unfinished one in Afghanistan. His spying on all of US. His breaking the FISA law, and a few other things.

Obama hasn't even gotten into office and you are criticizing shit he hasn't been able to do yet.

I think one poster was the closest: FEAR of change. Fear of a liberal agenda being implemented. Fear of losing control. Fear of small spiders. Fear of ruity tuity ice cream among other things.

 

[Silence]

okay so they did it to Clinton, you did it to Bush, so now it's our turn to do it to Obama. They do, you do, we all do.. So what's the problem?

who exactly are YOU? are you the right? are you a fringe group that didn't go after Clinton in the 90s? please tell us Willow who the fuck you are.

and last time I checked no one went after Bush personally.... I seemed to have missed the digging into his personal finances, personal relationships, and other issues that happened prior to him taking office.

 

[del]

who exactly are YOU? are you the right? are you a fringe group that didn't go after Clinton in the 90s? please tell us Willow who the fuck you are.

and last time I checked no one went after Bush personally.... I seemed to have missed the digging into his personal finances, personal relationships, and other issues that happened prior to him taking office.

 

[WillowTree]

who exactly are YOU? are you the right? are you a fringe group that didn't go after Clinton in the 90s? please tell us Willow who the fuck you are.

and last time I checked no one went after Bush personally.... I seemed to have missed the digging into his personal finances, personal relationships, and other issues that happened prior to him taking office.

I already told you this once,, but I'll say it again,, listen vewy carefuwlly,, I was a Clinton supporter,, voted for the guy twice,, was right there by his side defending him right up until the day he looked us straight in the eye and said "I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky>" He lost me there,, anybody too dumb to know whether he had sex or not don't need me defending him.. now,, you've been told twice who the fuck I am..

now I remember Bush, the chimp, bush the liar, bush the warmongerer, bush the criminal, bush and on and on and on and on... sooo,,,,, now it's our turn. damnitt

 

[Murf76]

I think one poster was the closest: FEAR of change. Fear of a liberal agenda being implemented. Fear of losing control. Fear of small spiders. Fear of ruity tuity ice cream among other things.

How 'bout 'Fear of waking up in FRANCE'?

 

[rayboyusmc]

I don't think France will take US anymore.

 

[del]

I don't think France will take US anymore.

they will in august; they're all out of town anyway.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

who exactly are YOU? are you the right? are you a fringe group that didn't go after Clinton in the 90s? please tell us Willow who the fuck you are.

and last time I checked no one went after Bush personally.... I seemed to have missed the digging into his personal finances, personal relationships, and other issues that happened prior to him taking office.

Are you a mental midget? They attacked him on his business deals, they attacked him on his service in the National Guard, they claimed he wa an oil man so was ALLOWING oil to make money. Hell all kind of personal attacks. They attacked him on his religion.

Take the blinders off.

 

[Silence]

Are you a mental midget? They attacked him on his business deals, they attacked him on his service in the National Guard, they claimed he wa an oil man so was ALLOWING oil to make money. Hell all kind of personal attacks. They attacked him on his religion.

Take the blinders off.

sorry you'll need to provide me with links to these stories as I must've missed them. and I want all of them to be AFTER he took office, not during his campaign for POTUS in 2000 where everything but the kitchen sink is thrown at the candidates.

If you can provide those links then I'll concede the point otherwise I'll call bullshit once again on the whiny bitch ass cons on this board who refuse to accept that Bush is the worst freakin President we've had in this century if not the entire history of this country.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

sorry you'll need to provide me with links to these stories as I must've missed them. and I want all of them to be AFTER he took office, not during his campaign for POTUS in 2000 where everything but the kitchen sink is thrown at the candidates.

If you can provide those links then I'll concede the point otherwise I'll call bullshit once again on the whiny bitch ass cons on this board who refuse to accept that Bush is the worst freakin President we've had in this century if not the entire history of this country.

So you live in a bubble? Do you remember Dan Rather and Marla Mapes and the 2004 hatchet job they tried to foist on the Voting Public about his National Guard service?

You do not remember in 2004 when they attacked his supposed failures as a businessman and his supposed illegal money scheme to buy a stadium? How they claimed he talked to God and made decisions in that manner?

And of course no one has called him a chimp, a retard, a mental midget, a coke head, a drunk, a murderer or any of those things, right? I guess I am confusing 2001 through 2008 with just that couple month period in 2000. Sure thing.

And you wonder why we think you and people like you are as stupid as stupid can be? You are either to STUPID to know what was going on or you are just lying about it. Tell me, which of those two is it?

 

[WillowTree]

So you live in a bubble? Do you remember Dan Rather and Marla Mapes and the 2004 hatchet job they tried to foist on the Voting Public about his National Guard service?

You do not remember in 2004 when they attacked his supposed failures as a businessman and his supposed illegal money scheme to buy a stadium? How they claimed he talked to God and made decisions in that manner?

And of course no one has called him a chimp, a retard, a mental midget, a coke head, a drunk, a murderer or any of those things, right? I guess I am confusing 2001 through 2008 with just that couple month period in 2000. Sure thing.

And you wonder why we think you and people like you are as stupid as stupid can be? You are either to STUPID to know what was going on or you are just lying about it. Tell me, which of those two is it?

don't you think you might be fighting a losing battle?? When a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there.............can anybody hear it???

 

[RetiredGySgt]

don't you think you might be fighting a losing battle?? When a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there.............can anybody hear it???

Well she is either ignorant as hell, stupid or lying. And She has to know it. Personally rather then think she is as dumb as a rock, I just assume she is lying. But how she does it and thinks anyone around the last 7 years doesn't know the truth is beyond me.

 

[Vel]

Well she is either ignorant as hell, stupid or lying. And She has to know it. Personally rather then think she is as dumb as a rock, I just assume she is lying. But how she does it and thinks anyone around the last 7 years doesn't know the truth is beyond me.

Your next statement from the left won't be that they didn't know that they spent 7 years calling George Bush everything but a human, they will simply justify it by saying that the right was mean to Clinton. The politics of moral equivalence.

 

[rayboyusmc]

Mental midgetness isn't a lefty only disease, willow and retired.

As to the Rather thing, let's remember the documents were forgeries, the facts weren't. And today it looks like Rather may end up winning this case because CBS kissed up so much to the right.

But as mentioned here, it's is a fear and anger that is being expressed by the right just over his nomination.

If he were to be as great a loser and screw up coportate ass kisser as Bush is, I will join you in your attacks on his policies.

But I seriously doubt he will. So as retired posted, live with it for the next four years and see how you can get him out then. Please select Sarah again.