Rage on the Right

[Silence]

So you live in a bubble? Do you remember Dan Rather and Marla Mapes and the 2004 hatchet job they tried to foist on the Voting Public about his National Guard service?

You do not remember in 2004 when they attacked his supposed failures as a businessman and his supposed illegal money scheme to buy a stadium? How they claimed he talked to God and made decisions in that manner?

was that during a campaign RGS?

I do recall them discussing his National Guard service... I believe it was in response to his and his parties attacks on John Kerry's service in vietnam...you know...the guy who ACTUALLY went to war.

His failures as a business man are just as relevant as the business dealings the Clintons had prior to his running for POTUS, aren't they? I mean how many businesses did he try and fail at?

As for the God comments, well when the POTUS says that God speaks to him, it's kind of an issue IMO.

And of course no one has called him a chimp, a retard, a mental midget, a coke head, a drunk, a murderer or any of those things, right? I guess I am confusing 2001 through 2008 with just that couple month period in 2000. Sure thing.

again are you referring to MSM or bloggers? cuz I don't recall ever seeing on the nightly news anyone calling him a chimp, retard or any of the other things you're referring to. I think he's a bright enough man but he's happy being ignorant to MANY MANY Things and that is why people view him as stupid, that and his inability to string together an entire sentence that doesn't contain some butchering of the English language.

And you wonder why we think you and people like you are as stupid as stupid can be? You are either to STUPID to know what was going on or you are just lying about it. Tell me, which of those two is it?

so because I don't agree with you, I'm stupid? that's laughable. Ask the average American if Bush was unfairly attacked during his presidency and I'll bet you anything they'd say no.

Bush got away with shit no other President has ever dared to even attempt.

I'll admit that I didn't follow every story the media ran about Bush. Mainly I followed his lies about the war, his authorization of torture, his lack of response on Katrina, his lack of adherence to the Constitution, you know things like that. And I don't think the media did nearly a good enough job covering those stories.

You, on the other hand, seem to have hung on every word. Let it burrow into your skin and fester there and now you'll bitch and moan about how unfair the world as been to your hero. It's ridiculous.

After the damage Bush has done to this country I'd say he's gotten off lightly if he's still walking around a free man. Personally I think he should've been impeached and sent to prison years ago.

 

[Vel]

I'll admit that I didn't follow every story the media ran about Bush. Mainly I followed his lies about the war, his authorization of torture, his lack of response on Katrina, his lack of adherence to the Constitution, you know things like that. And I don't think the media did nearly a good enough job covering those stories.

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You've laid out the talking points now see if you can provide details. Please be specific. Exactly what lies about the war... what his exact words were on torture... where his response was poor on Katrina... and where he broke from the constitution. Maybe you can take over where he media left off.

 

[Silence]

You've laid out the talking points now see if you can provide details. Please be specific. Exactly what lies about the war... what his exact words were on torture... where his response was poor on Katrina... and where he broke from the constitution. Maybe you can take over where he media left off.

ask and ye shall receive:

Lies about war:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz-6A59qzAU]YouTube - Bush Administration Caught Contradicting Itself 6 Times[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbR3QPcmxFU&feature=related]YouTube - PROOF! BUSH & CHENEY LIED! *Someone MUST PAY![/ame]

on Torture:

in 2006 Bush signed a law banning torture and then turned around and issued a signing statement indicating he could bypass that law if he saw fit.

Bush could bypass new torture ban - The Boston Globe

Katrina:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0632J1EuE8]YouTube - Bush and Katrina[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8az4CfEDpw&feature=related]YouTube - George Bush Apology for Katrina[/ame]

First report on Katrina assails Bush's response - International Herald Tribune

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SOXNeHZUDI&feature=related]YouTube - bush was warned about katrina[/ame]

his trampling of the constitution:

American Civil Liberties Union : Bush Administration Rebukes Congress and Courts, Stymieing Investigations of Destroyed CIA Videotapes


Prime example of why people think Bush is an idiot

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ChWyZZAaA&feature=related]YouTube - George W. Bush tries to answer a very simple question...[/ame]

 

[Vel]

thanks for all the videos and propaganda material. As soon as I have a little time I'll look through it all. In the mean time, what I was asking was for you just to tell me what the lies were and such. Just a brief reply in your own words would do.

 

[Ravi]

I don't know why ya'll are getting so upset. Every president since the beginning of time has been questioned and scrutinized and insulted. That will never change. Bush was an idiot. Clinton was a skank. I just hope that Obama is neither and manages to do a good job.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I don't know why ya'll are getting so upset. Every president since the beginning of time has been questioned and scrutinized and insulted. That will never change. Bush was an idiot. Clinton was a skank. I just hope that Obama is neither and manages to do a good job.

Tell the left, Your buddies are the ones whining and crying and making idiotic claims. They seem to think it is just horrible that anyone would question the sainthood of Obama.

Same as the process leading to the election, someone points out a disagreement on an issue and we are mentally unbalanced for daring to attack the Savior.

Someone call Bush a Chimp and it is true, someone calls Obama a socialist and it is how DARE you.

 

[Silence]

thanks for all the videos and propaganda material. As soon as I have a little time I'll look through it all. In the mean time, what I was asking was for you just to tell me what the lies were and such. Just a brief reply in your own words would do.

Lies:

Iraq has Weapons of Mass destruction
Iraq harbored, aided and/or helped the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11
Our country was in immediate danger from Saddam
Iraq had attempted to get materials to make a nuclear weapon

Those are just four off the top of my head.

Do you want other lies too that were told by or on behalf of GWB?

and I love how when you disagree with it it's propaganda. Everything in those videos is backed up by evidence.... propaganda insinuates a lie. The Iraq war was based on propaganda...

and RGS... I don't think the left would give a crap about questioning Obama IF the right would WAIT until he actually takes office... strange concept I know...but how about letting the guy actually become the President before you blame him for your hemmroids and athlete's foot.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Lies:

Iraq has Weapons of Mass destruction
Iraq harbored, aided and/or helped the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11
Our country was in immediate danger from Saddam
Iraq had attempted to get materials to make a nuclear weapon

Those are just four off the top of my head.

Do you want other lies too that were told by or on behalf of GWB?

and I love how when you disagree with it it's propaganda. Everything in those videos is backed up by evidence.... propaganda insinuates a lie. The Iraq war was based on propaganda....

EVERYONE believed Iraq had weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION, Shall I have someone quote you all the Democrats telling us they were there?

NO one claimed Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, that is a bald faced LIE.

No one ever said Iraq was an immediate threat. Another bald faced lie.

Iraq HAD attempted to get materials for making Nuclear weapons and had tons of the stuff stored in Country. After the fact we learned Saddam Hussein kept his scientific teams and hide equipment to return to that pursuit as soon as sanctions were lifted.

Wanna try again?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Lies:

Iraq has Weapons of Mass destruction
Iraq harbored, aided and/or helped the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11
Our country was in immediate danger from Saddam
Iraq had attempted to get materials to make a nuclear weapon

Those are just four off the top of my head.

Do you want other lies too that were told by or on behalf of GWB?

and I love how when you disagree with it it's propaganda. Everything in those videos is backed up by evidence.... propaganda insinuates a lie. The Iraq war was based on propaganda...

and RGS... I don't think the left would give a crap about questioning Obama IF the right would WAIT until he actually takes office... strange concept I know...but how about letting the guy actually become the President before you blame him for your hemmroids and athlete's foot.

You mean like the left did not call Bush names after he obviously won in 2000? How they did not start chanting he stole the election? There is that selective memory again.

 

[Silence]

EVERYONE believed Iraq had weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION, Shall I have someone quote you all the Democrats telling us they were there?

Not EVERYONE believed it...saying everyone believed it is BULLSHIT. Did most of Congress believe the VP when he came to them and presented the LIES? yes they did. Do I blame them for not requiring further investigation? yes I do.

NO one claimed Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, that is a bald faced LIE.

uh huh...sure... talk about stupid

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiNtpIpD6k]YouTube - Cheney: I never linked Iraq with 9/11. Oh really?[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SUBGtRIiXo&feature=related]YouTube - Bush denies linking Saddam and 9/11[/ame]

No one ever said Iraq was an immediate threat. Another bald faced lie.

it's so cute how easily you buy into the bullshit and/or choose to ignore the TRUTH

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iAJ9zpmDBI&feature=related"][ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLERW7snUQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLERW7snUQ[/ame][/URL]

Iraq HAD attempted to get materials for making Nuclear weapons and had tons of the stuff stored in Country. After the fact we learned Saddam Hussein kept his scientific teams and hide equipment to return to that pursuit as soon as sanctions were lifted.

Wanna try again?

really? I wonder why in Feb 2001 Colin Powell and in July 2001 Condi Rice said Saddam didn't have any such thing?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1X-I-38lrU]YouTube - Powell and Rice assure everyone Iraq is NO THREAT pre-9/11[/ame]


and IF these weapons exist WHY haven't they been found RGS? care to explain that? We've occupied that country for over 5 years.... where the hell are these hidden weapons and equipment?

you've bought into the bullshit fed to you with a spoon and that's fine...whatever. The EVIDENCE says there were NO WMD and that the Bush administration used intelligence they KNEW was faulty to dupe the country into believing Iraq was a threat.

 

[Silence]

You mean like the left did not call Bush names after he obviously won in 2000? How they did not start chanting he stole the election? There is that selective memory again.

when your presidency hinges on a vote difference of 537 votes, in the state where you brother is govenor and where the head of your campaign in FL is Sec of State and where in several counties there was voter irregularities and negative votes for the opponent and when your party willfully attempts to disrupt a re-count to verify the results then YES people WILL say the election was stolen.

Volusia error - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

watch the documentary hacking democracy

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVlZTWH7u8w]YouTube - Hacking Democracy 1 of 9[/ame]

there are 9 parts so get a drink and a comfy chair if you dare to actually see the truth



IF the 2000 election had taken place in ANY other country cries would've rang out about the illegitimacy of that election.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Not EVERYONE believed it...saying everyone believed it is BULLSHIT. Did most of Congress believe the VP when he came to them and presented the LIES? yes they did. Do I blame them for not requiring further investigation? yes I do.



uh huh...sure... talk about stupid

YouTube - Cheney: I never linked Iraq with 9/11. Oh really?

YouTube - Bush denies linking Saddam and 9/11



it's so cute how easily you buy into the bullshit and/or choose to ignore the TRUTH

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLERW7snUQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLERW7snUQ[/URL]



really? I wonder why in Feb 2001 Colin Powell and in July 2001 Condi Rice said Saddam didn't have any such thing?

YouTube - Powell and Rice assure everyone Iraq is NO THREAT pre-9/11


and IF these weapons exist WHY haven't they been found RGS? care to explain that? We've occupied that country for over 5 years.... where the hell are these hidden weapons and equipment?

you've bought into the bullshit fed to you with a spoon and that's fine...whatever. The EVIDENCE says there were NO WMD and that the Bush administration used intelligence they KNEW was faulty to dupe the country into believing Iraq was a threat.

Here's another lie

I will cut taxes for 95% of Americans.

 

[Silence]

Here's another lie

I will cut taxes for 95% of Americans.

you don't know that's a lie YET. Get back to us in 2012 or 2016 if he hasn't done that. mmmmmKay?

 

[rayboyusmc]

Some of the people who had the most knowledge -THE FRIGGING WEAPONS INSPECTORS - said that there were no more weapons of any significance left.

Cheney has consistently put forth the connection between Iraq and 9-11. To deny that is to deny reality.

We were warned of Mushroom Clouds by Condi. They weren't talking peyote.

Saddam was pushed as an immediate threat to the US. That's they way demogogues get wars approved. And no matter what you say, Congress does not get the same intelligence the president does.

But the point still is, are the righties attacking Obama afraid of what he might accomplish? If we try and destroy his ability to get anything accomplished, are we good conservatives?

 

[rayboyusmc]

They seem to think it is just horrible that anyone would question the sainthood of Obama.

I missed this crap. That is a bunch of crap that you keep making up and blaming on the left. I haven't heard anyone but a dipshit rightie call him: Saint, Messiah or savior. So typical. Frame the argument in negative words and then say it loud enough and long enough to catapult the propaganda and blame in on the left, Rove.

He is pissing you off because he totally smashed McCain in the campaign with his ability to organize at the grass roots level.

Now if you want to talk about the Holy Mother Sarah, then that's a bird of a different color.

 

[WillowTree]

you don't know that's a lie YET. Get back to us in 2012 or 2016 if he hasn't done that. mmmmmKay?

the really smart people, the one's that can do the math?? they already know it..that's why they didn't vote for him...

 

[Murf76]

Interesting how the left doesn't consider chemical weapons to be WMD. I guess all those Kurds just held their breath until they expired, huh?
How come Human Rights Watch can define these murders as "genocide" then? I mean, when it's so obvious that they just up and croaked it all on their own.

 

[jeffrockit]

Interesting how the left doesn't consider chemical weapons to be WMD. I guess all those Kurds just held their breath until they expired, huh?
How come Human Rights Watch can define these murders as "genocide" then? I mean, when it's so obvious that they just up and croaked it all on their own.

The left just can't bring themselves to admit Sadam had WMD as he used them on his own people. Blinded by their hatred for Bush. If those were not WMD's, then please explain what you call them.

 

[jillian]

The left just can't bring themselves to admit Sadam had WMD as he used them on his own people. Blinded by their hatred for Bush. If those were not WMD's, then please explain what you call them.

The WMD's to which you are referring was well in advance of Gulf I and had nothing to do with justification for the 2003 invasion.

We were fully aware of Saddam's actions with chemical weapons when he was our ally and fighing our proxy war against Iran for us.

This is pretty old stuff... and not really worth bothering about now.

But you do need to go check your facts as the statements you made aren't accurate.

 

[Skull Pilot]

you don't know that's a lie YET. Get back to us in 2012 or 2016 if he hasn't done that. mmmmmKay?

remember

"Read my lips....."

EVERYTHING A POLITICIAN SAYS DURING A CAMPAIGN IS A LIE