Question's concerning Health Insurance companies?

You are a blithering idiot who has no idea what communism is. You think supporting some type of safety net is communism.

communism is ownership of the commanding heights. BO had 2 communist parents, voted to the left of Bernie Sanders, wants single payer, and is in the process of taking over health care!!

Norman Thomas quotes:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.




It is completely laughable. And who said anything about anything being free? You really are stupid. Nobody said anything is free.

government services are free to the bottom 50% who pay no taxes!!! See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??
 
You are a blithering idiot who has no idea what communism is. You think supporting some type of safety net is communism.

communism is ownership of the commanding heights. BO had 2 communist parents, voted to the left of Bernie Sanders, wants single payer, and is in the process of taking over health care!!

Norman Thomas quotes:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.




It is completely laughable. And who said anything about anything being free? You really are stupid. Nobody said anything is free.

government services are free to the bottom 50% who pay no taxes!!! See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??
Is the take over of health care by the government, (if that is what they are doing or want to do) for the soul reason of helping the American people to get healthy, and of course at an affordable price in doing so, or is it just the weakest target to shoot for when wanting to strike at the heart of what holds Americans hostage at the moment, and all because it (the health care industry) had riled the American people to a complete anger over the corruption and cost hikes, so what better time it is right now then, to just take advantage of a situation in order to shift the nation one way or the other, be it from a capitalist system, right on over to a socialist system or even over to communism by way of the people being fed up in this specific area maybe, and thus they are now ready to just let the government take it and to run it finally ?

What implications would a take over have in these area's, I mean if this area was taken over first, and then what would be next or right on down the line maybe, otherwise would it (the nation) begin to fall like domino's within the private sectors soon, I mean once the chips begin to break off of the corner stone by way of the hammer in which they (?) are carrying such a hammer now ?
 
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You are a blithering idiot who has no idea what communism is. You think supporting some type of safety net is communism.

communism is ownership of the commanding heights. BO had 2 communist parents, voted to the left of Bernie Sanders, wants single payer, and is in the process of taking over health care!!

Norman Thomas quotes:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.




It is completely laughable. And who said anything about anything being free? You really are stupid. Nobody said anything is free.

government services are free to the bottom 50% who pay no taxes!!! See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??
Free to the bottom 50% maybe so, and easily affordable to the upper 25%, but for the 25% that are caught somewhere in the middle, it has become a living Hell for them.

This 25% has no one coming to their rescue either way, and they are expected to carry the load for the others who are all pulling off of their hard work and tears in the situation.

Now what will everyone do, once the middle has been destroyed, and then made slaves out of in this nation for the very rich, who would then control it all totally afterwards ? Was this the goal that was set forth by the rich over time, as their seperation became greater and greater from us who are those for whom had helped them become rich over time, in which now is being exposed as such to be found in a plan that becomes more and more evident unto us all now ?
 
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This 25% has no one coming to their rescue either way, and they are expected to carry the load for the others who are all pulling off of their hard work and tears in the situation.

too stupid the top 1% pay 40% of all federal taxes!!


Now what will everyone do, once the middle has been destroyed, and then made slaves out of in this nation for the very rich,

why for the rich?? It is Democrats, for political power, who declared war on the middle class. IF you want 25 million new jobs with huge upward pressure on wages than vote Republican:

1) Make unions illegal ( 10 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

2) make minimum wage illegal ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

3) end business taxation; especially tax incentives to off-shore jobs ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

4) make inflation illegal ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose


5) make Federal debt illegal( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

6) send illegal workers home(8 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

7) Pass Balanced Budget Amendment to Constitution( 3 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

8) cut pay of government workers in half( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

9) Make health insurance competition legal( 6 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

10) end needless business regulations ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

11) restrict Federal spending to 15% of GNP( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

12) support unlimited free trade( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

13) reduced unemployment compensation, welfare, food stamps, medicaid.( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

14) privatize education, social security ( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

15) end payroll taxes ( 1 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

Since Democrats always oppose wisdom and common sense the only serious option is to make them illegal as the Constitution intended.
 
You are a blithering idiot who has no idea what communism is. You think supporting some type of safety net is communism.

communism is ownership of the commanding heights. BO had 2 communist parents, voted to the left of Bernie Sanders, wants single payer, and is in the process of taking over health care!!

Norman Thomas quotes:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.




It is completely laughable. And who said anything about anything being free? You really are stupid. Nobody said anything is free.

government services are free to the bottom 50% who pay no taxes!!! See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??
Free to the bottom 50% maybe so, and easily affordable to the upper 25%, but for the 25% that are caught somewhere in the middle, it has become a living Hell for them.

This 25% has no one coming to their rescue either way, and they are expected to carry the load for the others who are all pulling off of their hard work and tears in the situation.

Now what will everyone do, once the middle has been destroyed, and then made slaves out of in this nation for the very rich, who would then control it all totally afterwards ? Was this the goal that was set forth by the rich over time, as their seperation became greater and greater from us who are those for whom had helped them become rich over time, in which now is being exposed as such to be found in a plan that becomes more and more evident unto us all now ?

The wonderful thing about our system is that when one group becomes too powerful or takes advantage of the system, citizens have the power to vote those in who will better represent their needs. If the rich do become too rich and powerful at the expense of the middle class, you can bet that things will change quickly. If the middle class becomes poor because of stupid policies that favor the rich, you can believe that eventually the tide will turn. Of course, it can work the opposite way also. If the poor are taking advantage of a system that benefits them too much, there will be a backlash and many of the freebies will be taken away.

The biggest problem we are seeing now is that those in the middle know they are getting screwed. Unfortunately, many of them have been convinced that the reason they are being screwed is because of the poor rather than the rich who continue to get richer and richer while blaming the poor for the middle class woes. It's actually comical when one looks at the situation with any perspective. The poor are not getting any richer; in fact, the poor is becoming a larger class as more are falling into the ranks of the poor. On the opposite end, more people are becoming rich and those who are already rich are becoming even richer. And seeing this as it is, the middle class is trying to protect the wealthy while taking away from the poor. In the end of course, it will all backfire, because taking away from the poor will only make things miserable as more become poor. Eventually, people will wake up and do what is necessary. The bad thing is that the more we move to a situation where the very wealthy control all of the assets at the expense of the rest of society, the more likely we are to really turn to true socialism. I don't think that will happen, but things can change fast. Hell, Americans can't stick to a political plan for more than two years before they are ready to vote one party out and the other back in.
 
Unfortunately, many of them(middle class) have been convinced that the reason they are being screwed is because of the poor rather than the rich

perfectly stupid and 100% liberal.

1) the rich earn there money in voluntary relationships. We elect to buy Apple products from Jobs because we are better off with his product than the money he charges for it. This is how freedom works and how our standard of living rises!!!!

2) the poor get 10 times more than just 20 years. This rips off the middle class and discourages the poor from working




Recently, Ron Haskins of the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank, testified before the House Budget Committee on the growth of the 10-largest “means tested” federal programs that serve people who qualify by various definitions of poverty.


Here’s what Haskins reported: From 1980 to 2011, annual spending on these programs grew from $126 billion to $626 billion (all figures in inflation-adjusted “2011 dollars”); dividing this by the number of people below the government poverty line, spending went from $4,300 per poor person in 1980 to $13,000 in 2011. In 1962, spending per person in poverty was $516.


Haskins’s list includes Medicaid, food stamps (now called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP), the earned-income tax credit (a wage subsidy for some low-income workers), and Pell Grants. There are other, smaller programs dedicated to the poor. A report from the Congressional Research Service estimated the total number at 83; Haskins puts the additional spending on programs below the 10 largest at about $210 billion. The total of all programs for the poor exceeds $800 billion.

To be sure, some spending reflects the effects of the Great Recession. But most doesn’t. As Haskins shows, spending on the poor has increased steadily for decades. Consider food stamps. There are now about 45 million Americans receiving an average of $287 a month in food stamps, up from 26 million in 2007, according to a new Congressional Budget Office report. But the number in 2007, when the economy was healthy, was roughly 50 percent higher than in 2001.

And programs for the poor pale beside middle-class transfers. The giants here are Social Security at $725 billion in 2011 and Medicare at $560 billion. Combine all this spending -- programs for the poor, Social Security and Medicare — and the total is nearly $2.1 trillion. That was about 60 percent of 2011 non-interest federal spending of $3.4 trillion.

What Washington really does - The Washington Post
 
This 25% has no one coming to their rescue either way, and they are expected to carry the load for the others who are all pulling off of their hard work and tears in the situation.

too stupid the top 1% pay 40% of all federal taxes!!

Now what will everyone do, once the middle has been destroyed, and then made slaves out of in this nation for the very rich,

why for the rich?? It is Democrats, for political power, who declared war on the middle class. IF you want 25 million new jobs with huge upward pressure on wages than vote Republican:

1) Make unions illegal ( 10 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

2) make minimum wage illegal ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

3) end business taxation; especially tax incentives to off-shore jobs ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

4) make inflation illegal ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose


5) make Federal debt illegal( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

6) send illegal workers home(8 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

7) Pass Balanced Budget Amendment to Constitution( 3 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

8) cut pay of government workers in half( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

9) Make health insurance competition legal( 6 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

10) end needless business regulations ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

11) restrict Federal spending to 15% of GNP( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

12) support unlimited free trade( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

13) reduced unemployment compensation, welfare, food stamps, medicaid.( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

14) privatize education, social security ( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

15) end payroll taxes ( 1 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

Since Democrats always oppose wisdom and common sense the only serious option is to make them illegal as the Constitution intended.

My reply to what is highlighted in red above - And so why is this ya reckon ? Is it because they control and own so much now, that they now pay 40% as you say in federal taxes all due to what they now own & control in America as a group ?

Hey of you can easily afford to pay these taxes while being rich, then you can also afford to do better by the ones who had made you this way in the first place (IMHO).. :eusa_pray:
 
My reply to what is highlighted in red above - And so why is this ya reckon ? Is it because they control and own so much now, that they now pay 40% as you say in federal taxes all due to what they now own & control in America as a group ?

too stupid!!!! they pay 40% of all income tax based on their income, not what they own and control

Hey of you can easily afford to pay these taxes while being rich,

easy afford BS!!! Any money you steal from them is money they cant use for investment in new products and jobs!! Did you think the Girl Scouts created new products and jobs!!


then you can also afford to do better by the ones who had made you this way in the first place :

again way too stupid!!! how do the poor make the rich?????? See why we are positive a liberal will be slow. Is any other explanation possible??
 
My reply to what is highlighted in red above - And so why is this ya reckon ? Is it because they control and own so much now, that they now pay 40% as you say in federal taxes all due to what they now own & control in America as a group ?

1. too stupid!!!! they pay 40% of all income tax based on their income, not what they own and control
Hey if you can easily afford to pay these taxes while being rich,

2. easy afford BS!!! Any money you steal from them is money they cant use for investment in new products and jobs!! Did you think the Girl Scouts created new products and jobs!!

then you can also afford to do better by the ones who had made you this way in the first place :

3. again way too stupid!!! how do the poor make the rich??????See why we are positive a liberal will be slow. Is any other explanation possible??


You like reffering people as being stupid don't you ? What does this say about you as a person or character maybe ?

1. (RED) How did they get to own so much then ? This is of course (yes) by the amount of income they have had coming in, in order to purchase what they own of course, now how did they get sooooo much income as to purchase sooooo much as they have purchased within their lives, even after they had paid their 40% on that income ? Especially an income in which you must feel was taxed to high for them to have to pay this 40% on to begin with ?

2. (blue) Ok, the same can be said of them (the rich) also, where as any money they steal from the workforce by taking far to much, stops that workforce from investing that money more broadly across the system, instead of that money being concentrated in a clique or within certain areas of this nation, meanwhile a large portion of the nations workforce and/or people suffer, and sadly it was all because of this greed in which had run amuck in our nation and our society over time.

3. (green) Do the rich make themselves, I mean without the workforce in which they have made poor by a trend, and mainly due to their fraudulent greed as rogue employers over time, didnot once the workforce make them rich by their attendance of and/or consistancy of, as is found by them within the workplace over time, where as if it were not for them (the loyal employee's) whom have been sorely disrespected over time sadly these days in many cases, could the rich have done these things by themselves in which they have boasted about doing ? What part of United don't people understand anymore, where as we are all (the most of us), in this together, and the sooner we get back to that concept, only then can these issues truly be resolved or begin to balance back out somehow.

Now if you want to talk about "who" it is in which is that to be found in specific character of, and that just might be deserving of or might not be, in as far as individuals go then so be it. This is always based upon characters as individuals, and should be talked about as individuals in order to get right to the source of the problems when do this. Then we may begin to shed light on the situation that is going on along side of these other problems that are being found so previlent within our society today, and for which have been causing all the disrespect and concentration of wealth going on in which we are now seeing on such a huge scale in America today. Of course this may be a deep subject for a shallow mind if we get such a conversation as this going on, so I digress cuz I'm soooooo stupid aren't I ??? B )

Oh, and it would be nice if you would leave my work in context of, instead of slicing and dicing it up in order to change it or re-imply the message somehow....sheesh :eusa_shifty:
 
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You like reffering people as being stupid don't you ?

only liberals because, sadly, they are stupid and treasonous. Its easy enough to prove: please say something intelligent in support of liberalism!!


How did they get to own so much then ?

Steve Jobs for example by revolutions like Mac, Ipod, Ipad Iphone!!! Do you want people to get rich by lowering our standard of living?? Now you can see the beauty of capitalism


This is of course (yes) by the amount of income they have had coming in, in order to purchase what they own of course, now how did they get sooooo much income as to purchase sooooo much as they have purchased within their lives, even after they had paid their 40% on that income ?

Mac Ipod Ipad Iphone thats how. If its evil to create products and Jobs then we need all the evil people we can get. see why we are positive a liberal will be slow??



where as any money they steal from the workforce by taking far to much,

stealing??? way too stupid!!! They volunteer to work for Apple because it is the best job in the world available to them. They want that job more than any other. If Jobs doesn't pay the highest wage possible workers quit and go to who does pay the highest. Stealing is violent!! How slow are you??


stops that workforce from investing that money more broadly across the system,

too stupid!!! a workforce does not invest or invent new products and jobs, it merely spends its paychecks on what others have invented


instead of that money being concentrated in a clique or within certain areas of this nation,

too stupid!!! money is concentrated in the hands of whoever can earn it in voluntary relationships by improving our standard of living with new goods and services. Would you want a system that concentrate it with children and welfare recipients or those who have earned it with new products and jobs?? You need to think!!!


was all because of this greed in which had run amuck in our nation and our society over time.

not greed but the liberalism that caused the housing crisis. That's way over your head!!

Do the rich make themselves, I mean without the workforce in which they have made poor

yes the rich need a work force and the work force needs the rich and both need garbage men to pick up after them but this does address your Nazi-like tendency to steal from the rich what they earned in peaceful voluntary relationships


by a trend, and mainly due to their fraudulent greed .

Jobs was not greedy for inventing great products for us you fool!! This is how we got from the stone age to here!!! Econ 101 if you ever get to college.

We live in a free society. IF you don't like Jobs having so much money organize people to stop buying his products. Why is the liberal so Nazi like in wanted to violently steal money from Jobs after people want him to have it????
 
Oh, and it would be nice if you would leave my work in context :

please don't call your Nazi-like tendency to steal from the rich what others have voluntarily given them, in return for a higher standard of living, work. You are a barbarian liberal with violence on your mind. I'm sure your parents can help you work on this unfortunate tendency. If not they say the schools are rich with counselors these days. Good luck
 
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You like reffering people as being stupid don't you ?

only liberals because, sadly, they are stupid and treasonous. Its easy enough to prove: please say something intelligent in support of liberalism!!


How did they get to own so much then ?

Steve Jobs for example by revolutions like Mac, Ipod, Ipad Iphone!!! Do you want people to get rich by lowering our standard of living?? Now you can see the beauty of capitalism




Mac Ipod Ipad Iphone thats how. If its evil to create products and Jobs then we need all the evil people we can get. see why we are positive a liberal will be slow??





stealing??? way too stupid!!! They volunteer to work for Apple because it is the best job in the world available to them. They want that job more than any other. If Jobs doesn't pay the highest wage possible workers quit and go to who does pay the highest. Stealing is violent!! How slow are you??




too stupid!!! a workforce does not invest or invent new products and jobs, it merely spends its paychecks on what others have invented




too stupid!!! money is concentrated in the hands of whoever can earn it in voluntary relationships by improving our standard of living with new goods and services. Would you want a system that concentrate it with children and welfare recipients or those who have earned it with new products and jobs?? You need to think!!!




not greed but the liberalism that caused the housing crisis. That's way over your head!!

Do the rich make themselves, I mean without the workforce in which they have made poor

yes the rich need a work force and the work force needs the rich and both need garbage men to pick up after them but this does address your Nazi-like tendency to steal from the rich what they earned in peaceful voluntary relationships


by a trend, and mainly due to their fraudulent greed .

Jobs was not greedy for inventing great products for us you fool!! This is how we got from the stone age to here!!! Econ 101 if you ever get to college.

We live in a free society. IF you don't like Jobs having so much money organize people to stop buying his products. Why is the liberal so Nazi like in wanted to violently steal money from Jobs after people want him to have it????
You speak as if "Apple" is theeee perfect model for the system of capitalism, in which to be pointed to in the consumerism supply and demand chain as we have known it in this nation over time, when infact it doesn't even come close to exampling the entire diverse actual model our system was built upon or operated upon for over 50 years now, and then some. The problem with what has happened with our system, is it once was operated by far more "moral" and "balanced" American individuals in the past, but now it is operated by multi-national corporations & some powerful greed running all about to boot, who wish to take over the whole thing one day, but the problem with this, is that they have not the American culture as their mantra and/or model in which they should be honoring and operating from, especially in regards to her security and soverignty that is to be held up as it should be always, even these days it still should be. Everyone is fast becoming just a "number" instead of an American with a unique identity and/or culture in which to have and to hold steady upon, thus keeping America soverign, strong, productive, and secure for the American family and worker who lives for that American family and dream in America.

I believe people see through your protectionist of the rich at all cost attitude, where as you are not balancing what is known to be true about our nation these days, with what is wrong with our nation in regards to what certain people of power have done, and where they are leading us all to in the process, so you keep living in that bubble and fantasy concerning your biases, while the rest of us try and find the truth in order to dig our way back out of it all, and this in hopes to try and fix what is going wrong or has gone wrong way before it is to late for our nation.
 
You speak as if "Apple" is theeee perfect model for the system of capitalism,

who makes stuff free people want to buy more than Apple?? They innovate, they represent what got us from the stone age to here!!!



in which to be pointed to in the consumerism supply and demand chain as we have known it in this nation over time, when infact it doesn't even come close to exampling the entire diverse actual model our system was built upon or operated upon for over 50 years now, and then some.

Im sure you thought that made sense; why not read what you wrote!



The problem with what has happened with our system, is it once was operated by far more "moral" and "balanced" American individuals in the past, but now it is operated by multi-national corporations & some powerful greed running all about to boot,

vague gibberish. Apple is doing a wonderful job of meeting peoples' needs. That is why free people buy from them!!! They represent what got us from the stone age to here


who wish to take over the whole thing one day, but the problem with this, is that they have not the American culture as their mantra and/or model in which they should be honoring and operating from, especially in regards to her security and soverignty that is to be held up as it should be always, even these days it still should be. Everyone is fast becoming just a "number" instead of an American with a unique identity and/or culture in which to have and to hold steady upon, thus keeping America soverign, strong, productive, and secure for the American family and worker who lives for that American family and dream in America.

vague idiotic nonsense that makes no sense. You have a Nazi -like tendency to hate the people and what they do when given freedom.

I believe people see through your protectionist of the rich at all cost attitude,

protectionist??? Capitalism causes 10,000 companies to go bust every month. Capitalism does not protect at all. Did you notice what happend to Nokia, TWA, Merrill Lynch, RCA, What is wrong with you??


where as you are not balancing what is known to be true about our nation these days, with what is wrong with our nation in regards to what certain people of power have done, and where they are leading us all to in the process, so you keep living in that bubble and fantasy concerning your biases, while the rest of us try and find the truth in order to dig our way back out of it all, and this in hopes to try and fix what is going wrong or has gone wrong way before it is to late for our nation.

vague gibberish means less than nothing. Please read what you write before you post
 
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Oh, and it would be nice if you would leave my work in context :

please don't call your Nazi-like tendency to steal from the rich what others have voluntarily given them, in return for a higher standard of living, work. You are a barbarian liberal with violence on your mind. I'm sure your parents can help you work on this unfortunate tendency. If not they say the schools are rich with counselors these days. Good luck

Yes you are a retard
 
Oh, and it would be nice if you would leave my work in context :

please don't call your Nazi-like tendency to steal from the rich what others have voluntarily given them, in return for a higher standard of living, work. You are a barbarian liberal with violence on your mind. I'm sure your parents can help you work on this unfortunate tendency. If not they say the schools are rich with counselors these days. Good luck

Yes you are a retard

protectionist??? Capitalism causes 10,000 companies to go bust every month. Capitalism does not protect at all. Did you notice what happend to Nokia, TWA, Merrill Lynch, RCA under capitalism?? What is wrong with you??
 
please don't call your Nazi-like tendency to steal from the rich what others have voluntarily given them, in return for a higher standard of living, work. You are a barbarian liberal with violence on your mind. I'm sure your parents can help you work on this unfortunate tendency. If not they say the schools are rich with counselors these days. Good luck

Yes you are a retard

protectionist??? Capitalism causes 10,000 companies to go bust every month. Capitalism does not protect at all. Did you notice what happend to Nokia, TWA, Merrill Lynch, RCA under capitalism?? What is wrong with you??
If you could speak coherent English instead of a word mash of talking points maybe everyone wouldn't believe that you are a retard
 
Healthcare insurance actually mirrors the cost increases of the actual cost of healthcare. When the cost goes up a specific percentage insurance goes up just about that same percentage.
In the rest of the developed nations, the governments of those nations negotiate the price of the services/products of the health care providers. Thusly, those country's healthcare costs are much lower than the US, roughly half the cost for the same services/products. In 2009, the healthcare industry spent $500 million to keep the status quo with their lobbying efforts. Therefore in the US, we will continue to see healthcare costs rise faster than inflation by two-three times.
 
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Healthcare insurance actually mirrors the cost increases of the actual cost of healthcare. When the cost goes up a specific percentage insurance goes up just about that same percentage.
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From1990-2010 the costs going to health care administration from insurance companies increased from around 13% of total health costs to 20%. Health insurance companies are getting less efficient.
 
Yes you are a retard

protectionist??? Capitalism causes 10,000 companies to go bust every month. Capitalism does not protect at all. Did you notice what happend to Nokia, TWA, Merrill Lynch, RCA under capitalism?? What is wrong with you??
If you could speak coherent English instead of a word mash of talking points maybe everyone wouldn't believe that you are a retard

if merely talking points then why be so afraid to confute it?? How will you learn if you are so afraid to try???
 

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