Question for everyone: Should the United States have open borders?

[Richard-H]

So where do you draw the line? I asked you a question. What is NOT acceptable to you?

It wasn't a question, it was a patently stupid thing to type. Weak minded people throw out that Nazi shit when they are cornered. You won, they will stay together you can be happy now. Or is that you think we should just let them all in because they want in?

Here is my position. The "parents" broke the law, they brought the consequences down upon themselves and their children. The blame rests with the "parents".

No, their parents did not break the law. These are people who are applying for asylum and other legal immigrant status. They should all get a hearing under due process to determine if their application is accepted.

Right. So why invade our country? Why not make application at the US Consulate in their country of origin? We have diplomatic facilities in every Central and South American country designed for that purpose.


As to the question. Hell NO. No Open Borders.

OMG! We're being invaded by hard working honest people looking for a better way of life!

We ought to be jelious of those people who got invaded by hordes of tanks and soldiers back in the good ole 1930s! They couldn't imagine the horros that we're going thru!

Yeah, dipshit. When they enter illegally en-masse it's akin to an invasion. If they want to come here for a better life there is a legal process for doing that. It starts with obtaining an Immigrant Visa at the US Consulate in their country of origin. Amazingly, it is an existing pathway to legal US citizenship.

So the Irish, Italians, Jews and every other ethinic group that migrated here in mass constitutued some sort of an invasion? Or is the fact that they filled out the paper work magically changed that?

I'm sure that the choice to travel from their homes, across Mexico, to the U.S. border risking death, injury and imprisonment was jsut SO MUCh easier than going to the U.S. Consulate and applying for a visa.

DO you understand that these people are desparate? That they fear for their lives and that the choices they made were brutal but they were the only possible choices for them?

My wife migrated here following the legal process. But she was not in fear for her life. She was able to wait the months and months that it took for the legal process. They can not.

 

[BluesLegend]

I believe that we bear some responsibility for what has happened in those countries and that this immigrant crisis is a largely a result of our policies.

If we didn't want to take responsibilty we should not have intervened.

Holy Cow.... there is no way on an internet discussion forum to properly educate you on the reality.
You, most likely, know about a thumbnails worth of knowledge on Central America.
So I could not possibly show you just how many ways you are wrong.
You bet America during the Carter, Reagan and Clinton era engaged with people in this area that "fell short" of their promises to put it in the best possible light. Having said that, Central America has been a fucked up region for millennia. The shear number of revolutions, regime changes meant the only thing that was stable was instability itself. We did not create that, or change it. All we did was back "less worse" people in hopes to over throw worse. It didn't work.
But that does not mean we are responsible for the overall fucked upness of this region...it was fucked up before we attempted to intervene, and fucked up afterwards.

This leftist clown has lost it, he claims the USA destroyed El Salvador, yet instead of hating us they want to come to the USA

 

[Doc1]

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Should adults use their children in a criminal act to gain entrance into a country?

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Actions have consequences, the folks to blame are the one who took the wrong actions. You got what you wanted, the families will now stay together.
In prison until they are vetted and cleared. try and be happy.

Isn't it wonderful, we are sending children into prisons with criminals.

They can't make up their minds. He caves to them and they STILL bitch and moan. Progs are disgusting people.

 

[Cosmos]

So the Irish, Italians, Jews and every other ethinic group that migrated here in mass constitutued some sort of an invasion? Or is the fact that they filled out the paper work magically changed that?

Yeah, stupid. Follow the law. It's like magic.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I believe that we bear some responsibility for what has happened in those countries and that this immigrant crisis is a largely a result of our policies.

If we didn't want to take responsibilty we should not have intervened.

Holy Cow.... there is no way on an internet discussion forum to properly educate you on the reality.
You, most likely, know about a thumbnails worth of knowledge on Central America.
So I could not possibly show you just how many ways you are wrong.
You bet America during the Carter, Reagan and Clinton era engaged with people in this area that "fell short" of their promises to put it in the best possible light. Having said that, Central America has been a fucked up region for millennia. The shear number of revolutions, regime changes meant the only thing that was stable was instability itself. We did not create that, or change it. All we did was back "less worse" people in hopes to over throw worse. It didn't work.
But that does not mean we are responsible for the overall fucked upness of this region...it was fucked up before we attempted to intervene, and fucked up afterwards.

This leftist clown has lost it, he claims the USA destroyed El Salvador, yet instead of hating us they want to come to the USA

He is a little dumber than most. That is a given.
Nothing worse than a moron who thinks he knows everything.

 

[Papageorgio]

It appears that the question is not stupid because everything that the Democrats oppose in GOP legislation point to the Democrats favor everyone coming in at any time.

Now historically we did have that... when on August 3,1882 the first "general immigration law" was passed.
Immigration Act of 1882 - Wikipedia
And the population of the USA at that time was 50,189,209 or 1/6 what it is today.

So our country was founded on the rule of law... not emotion. Not illogic. But founded on the preamble of the US Constitution what clearly states.."provide for the common defence".

So if we have no borders. No laws regarding who can come in what do we have but back to where we were
over 136 years when EVERYONE had a gun. A lot of the country had no law and anyone could come in.

So is that what the Democrats want? Our country to revert back to the way we were in the 1880s?

I'm all in favor then as there would be open season on protecting me and my property it sounds like.

Wow what a farce!

First, there are many other functions that borders provide beside keeping immigrants out.

Second, the Democrats not supporting current Republican proposals does not equate to the Democrats wanting open borders.

Third, the majority of immigrants are not breaking any laws. They are applying for asylum and other various immigrant status. That is not against the law at all. It's these law abiding people who are having their children taken away. That gives a whole lot more incentive for people to try to enter the country illegally.

Fourth, the vast majority of these people are law abiding, peaceful people who are only hoping for a better life. They are an awful lot like your ancestors (except they don't want to kill native Americans).

Fifth, you are a paranoid idiot if you think that these people are a threat to you and your property. Just becuase you are a violent theiving idiot doesn't mean that they are.

330,000 illegal immigrants are arrested every year for entering into the US illegally. Another 70,000 come to the US seeking asylum, so they are in the minority by a long ways. Furthermore those arrested for entering into the country illegally are breaking a law and thus are not law abiding people.

Lastly, use a spell checker.

 

[BluesLegend]

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Should adults use their children in a criminal act to gain entrance into a country?

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Actions have consequences, the folks to blame are the one who took the wrong actions. You got what you wanted, the families will now stay together.
In prison until they are vetted and cleared. try and be happy.

Isn't it wonderful, we are sending children into prisons with criminals.

They can't make up their minds. He caves to them and they STILL bitch and moan. Progs are disgusting people.

Proving they don't care about the illegals, they are just flailing about trying to attack Trump on something.

 

[night_son]

It appears that the question is not stupid because everything that the Democrats oppose in GOP legislation point to the Democrats favor everyone coming in at any time.

Now historically we did have that... when on August 3,1882 the first "general immigration law" was passed.
Immigration Act of 1882 - Wikipedia
And the population of the USA at that time was 50,189,209 or 1/6 what it is today.

So our country was founded on the rule of law... not emotion. Not illogic. But founded on the preamble of the US Constitution what clearly states.."provide for the common defence".

So if we have no borders. No laws regarding who can come in what do we have but back to where we were
over 136 years when EVERYONE had a gun. A lot of the country had no law and anyone could come in.

So is that what the Democrats want? Our country to revert back to the way we were in the 1880s?

I'm all in favor then as there would be open season on protecting me and my property it sounds like.

We should close the southern border.

In addition to a Space Force we should create a Border Corps as a Marine Corps brother branch, model its units on MEUs and use them to destroy Narco states. Build the wall and equip it with automated less-lethal weaponry. Lay new tracks to the Panama Canal. Force Mexico to load those trains with every single illegal they usher our way and ship them home on trains in comfort and as whole families fed, newly clothed and treated for whatever ails them of course because we owe the rest of the world, am I right? Hell give them an Xbox as a parting gift. Then we should focus on infrastructure restoration throughout Central America. I'd rather pay for millions of potential illegals to live in their native countries than next door.

 

[RDD_1210]

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Should adults use their children in a criminal act to gain entrance into a country?

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Actions have consequences, the folks to blame are the one who took the wrong actions. You got what you wanted, the families will now stay together.
In prison until they are vetted and cleared. try and be happy.

Isn't it wonderful, we are sending children into prisons with criminals.

They can't make up their minds. He caves to them and they STILL bitch and moan. Progs are disgusting people.

Says the guy who is so ashamed of his stance he refuses to answer what his limits are in targeting of children in political actions.

This world will literally be a better place when disgusting sacks of shit such as yourself are dead and gone.

 

[Papageorgio]

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Should adults use their children in a criminal act to gain entrance into a country?

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Actions have consequences, the folks to blame are the one who took the wrong actions. You got what you wanted, the families will now stay together.
In prison until they are vetted and cleared. try and be happy.

Isn't it wonderful, we are sending children into prisons with criminals.

They can't make up their minds. He caves to them and they STILL bitch and moan. Progs are disgusting people.

Says the guy who is so ashamed of his stance he refuses to answer what his limits are in targeting of children in political actions.

This world will literally be a better place when disgusting sacks of shit such as yourself are dead and gone.

Cool, now wishing death on others that disagree with you, love that lefty tolerance.

 

[Doc1]

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Should adults use their children in a criminal act to gain entrance into a country?

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Actions have consequences, the folks to blame are the one who took the wrong actions. You got what you wanted, the families will now stay together.
In prison until they are vetted and cleared. try and be happy.

Isn't it wonderful, we are sending children into prisons with criminals.

They can't make up their minds. He caves to them and they STILL bitch and moan. Progs are disgusting people.

Says the guy who is so ashamed of his stance he refuses to answer what his limits are in targeting of children in political actions.

This world will literally be a better place when disgusting sacks of shit such as yourself are dead and gone.

Too funny, look little boy I answered your question and told you exactly what my stance is. Your ego is writing checks your mind can't cash. Tell ya what kid, come "off" me. To a Prog "compromise" is nothing less than "capitulation". Do you need me to splain that word to you?

 

[Doc1]

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Should adults use their children in a criminal act to gain entrance into a country?

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Actions have consequences, the folks to blame are the one who took the wrong actions. You got what you wanted, the families will now stay together.
In prison until they are vetted and cleared. try and be happy.

Isn't it wonderful, we are sending children into prisons with criminals.

They can't make up their minds. He caves to them and they STILL bitch and moan. Progs are disgusting people.

Says the guy who is so ashamed of his stance he refuses to answer what his limits are in targeting of children in political actions.

This world will literally be a better place when disgusting sacks of shit such as yourself are dead and gone.

Cool, now wishing death on others that disagree with you, love that lefty tolerance.

Progs have ALWAYS been this way. They are totalitarian at heart.

 

[RDD_1210]

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Should adults use their children in a criminal act to gain entrance into a country?

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Actions have consequences, the folks to blame are the one who took the wrong actions. You got what you wanted, the families will now stay together.
In prison until they are vetted and cleared. try and be happy.

Isn't it wonderful, we are sending children into prisons with criminals.

They can't make up their minds. He caves to them and they STILL bitch and moan. Progs are disgusting people.

Says the guy who is so ashamed of his stance he refuses to answer what his limits are in targeting of children in political actions.

This world will literally be a better place when disgusting sacks of shit such as yourself are dead and gone.

Cool, now wishing death on others that disagree with you, love that lefty tolerance.

MAGA

 

[Papageorgio]

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Should adults use their children in a criminal act to gain entrance into a country?

Actions have consequences, the folks to blame are the one who took the wrong actions. You got what you wanted, the families will now stay together.
In prison until they are vetted and cleared. try and be happy.

Isn't it wonderful, we are sending children into prisons with criminals.

They can't make up their minds. He caves to them and they STILL bitch and moan. Progs are disgusting people.

Says the guy who is so ashamed of his stance he refuses to answer what his limits are in targeting of children in political actions.

This world will literally be a better place when disgusting sacks of shit such as yourself are dead and gone.

Cool, now wishing death on others that disagree with you, love that lefty tolerance.

MAGA

Not accepting responsibility for your own position, sounds like a extreme lefty or righty, good luck with your partisan BS.

 

[easyt65]

United States is importing Millions of Criminal, low- educated, unskilled, Medicare, welfare, and unemployment enrollees.

My tax dollars go to enough of those already.

The burden this country is already under having to pay for social programs 4 the American citizens that we have in this country alone is already burying us in a debt that we will be unable to pay in my lifetime, if ever at all. Here we are, though, importing even more 'debt.

How can liberals justify this act of self-destruction?

When the United States collapses under all of that weight, who is going to provide for all of these illegals and more importantly who is going to bail us out and provide for us?

 

[Doc1]

Should adults use their children in a criminal act to gain entrance into a country?
Isn't it wonderful, we are sending children into prisons with criminals.

They can't make up their minds. He caves to them and they STILL bitch and moan. Progs are disgusting people.

Says the guy who is so ashamed of his stance he refuses to answer what his limits are in targeting of children in political actions.

This world will literally be a better place when disgusting sacks of shit such as yourself are dead and gone.

Cool, now wishing death on others that disagree with you, love that lefty tolerance.

Progs have ALWAYS been this way. They are totalitarian at heart.

600 posts per month for a year and a half. LOL. Fucking loser.

Oh look, it's feelers are hurt You just aren't up to this son. We aren't the worlds police force and we aren't it's orphanage. You'll be ok. By the way, you might want to check the posing rules.

 

[Doc1]

No.

Next question. Should we intentionally target children with the intention of traumatizing them as our focus in order to enforce policies?

Should adults use their children in a criminal act to gain entrance into a country?

Actions have consequences, the folks to blame are the one who took the wrong actions. You got what you wanted, the families will now stay together.
In prison until they are vetted and cleared. try and be happy.

Isn't it wonderful, we are sending children into prisons with criminals.

They can't make up their minds. He caves to them and they STILL bitch and moan. Progs are disgusting people.

Says the guy who is so ashamed of his stance he refuses to answer what his limits are in targeting of children in political actions.

This world will literally be a better place when disgusting sacks of shit such as yourself are dead and gone.

Too funny, look little boy I answered your question and told you exactly what my stance is. Your ego is writing checks your mind can't cash. Tell ya what kid, come "off" me. To a Prog "compromise" is nothing less than "capitulation". Do you need me to splain that word to you?

LOL, you didn't answer shit. You told me your viewpoint on the parents. I asked about the children. You didn't answer because you're a spineless piece of shit who is an internet tough guy but in reality I can guarantee you're a broke loser who has never amounted to a damn thing. Now you spend your days railing on brown people and how self-reliant you are to try and justify why your life turned out to be the steaming turd that it is.

I wish you could do us all a favor and die in a grease fire but because you are too dumb to even do that, I'll just put you on ignore so I don't have to waste another second on someone who is clearly beneath civil society.

So we can add a lack of reading and comprehension skills to your growing list of shortfalls. It would be best to ignore, if you don't you'll end up getting banned. I outlined my position son, you just didn't like it.

 

[easyt65]

Question for all the open border Democrats:

Exactly how many illegals do you want to allow into the United States?

How many poor, uneducated, unskilled illegals do you want to allow to come to this country to sponge off taxpayers?

How many, exactly?

5 million? 10 million? 20 Million?

Liberals and snowflakes never want to look at the end of what's going on and provide you with an answer to that question...

 

[Dschrute3]

As the NWO Globalists continue pushing their Open Borders Agenda, do you support it or not?

 

[buckeye45_73]

FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!