CDZ Prostitution, why should it be illegal?

[longknife]

It is beyond disgraceful that some people seem to care so little about the hell that victims of this crime have to live through. Make no mistake, legalization of prostitution only creates MORE such victims. Some people apparently just don’t fucking care.

Forced Prostitution has been illegal since 1910,

The Mann Act

Yet today Sex Trafficking is a big problem despite that prostitution has been illegal for 118 years in all but 1/2 of one state.

And in that 1/2 of one state, underaged sex trafficking is a GIGANTIC problem.

Because they bring underaged kids from other states to work where it's *legal*. Johns don't check ID.

If true that is bad, but you haven't shown the evidence.

Meanwhile what about ALL the other states?

I cited national stats.

Underaged trafficking is a bigger problem in areas where prostitution is legal.

Prove it! Link

 

[koshergrl]

Prostitution has been legal here in all but two Nevada counties for several hundred years. The ladies make their own choices and are not forced in any way. They make decent money and some raise families. They are checked for health. The brothels pay taxes.

I see no reason why that cannot work everywhere in the USA.

Combating underage sex trafficking in Las Vegas

Prostitution is illegal in Clark County.

You didn't read it. You should.

 

[koshergrl]

Prostitution has been legal here in all but two Nevada counties for several hundred years. The ladies make their own choices and are not forced in any way. They make decent money and some raise families. They are checked for health. The brothels pay taxes.

I see no reason why that cannot work everywhere in the USA.

That's a lie.
Nevada has a HUGE underaged sex trafficking problem BECAUSE it's legalized.

You have no idea what you're posting.

Let's go over this more slowly, for those who pretend not to understand that legalized sex trafficking facilitates and increases incidence of underaged sex trafficking:

"Of 190 identified sex-trafficking victims in 2014, Arizona State University researchers found two-thirds were under 18 years old, one in five was brought to southern Nevada from somewhere else.." They bring them to places where it's LEGAL and they present them as *legal*. But in reality, they're underaged, and they're being trafficked.

"The average underage victim in the study was 16. The youngest was 12."

“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

" brothels are legal in rural counties, prostitution is illegal in Clark and Washoe counties, home to Nevada’s largest cities, Las Vegas and Reno. And while sex trafficking has drawn increasing attention in recent years from local, state and federal elected officials, it has been hard to measure and difficult to stop."


“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

So these abusers and traffickers from out of the area hear that there is legalized prostitution, so they bring underaged girls to the area. The girls aren't *choosing* to "trade sex for money" or *engage in capitalism*...(code phrases for people who defend human trafficking). They are forced into prostitution by pimps who take their money, and who count on the fact that the scumbags who seek out prostitutes very rarely check age.

Study finds underage girls in Vegas sex trafficking

 

[koshergrl]

"The presence of an adult sex industry increases both the rates of child sexual exploitation and trafficking. It may be true that some women in commercial sex exercised some level of informed choice, had other options to entering and have no histories of familial trauma, neglect or sexual abuse. But, these women are the minority and don’t represent the overwhelming majority of women, girls, boys and transgender youth, for whom the sex industry isn’t about choice but lack of choice.

"The argument that legalizing prostitution makes it safer for women just hasn’t been borne out in countries implementing full legalization. In fact, legalization has spurred traffickers to recruit children and marginalized women to meet demand. Amsterdam, long touted as the model, recently started recognizing rates of trafficking into the country have increased and is beginning to address the enormous hub of trafficking and exploitation that it's created."

Legalizing Prostitution Leads to More Trafficking - NYTimes.com

 

[AVG-JOE]

I kind of think it should remain illegal. Also porn movies, and even high class ones. Men who cheat should get caught, its mainly married men who use hookers.

Again it's kind of silly to charge someone with a crime when money changes hands when its' not a crime if you do it for free.

What's weird is that it's not a crime to pay for sex, as long as you hire an "actress" and have a buddy film it.

America... What a country! ​

 

[AVG-JOE]

I kind of think it should remain illegal. Also porn movies, and even high class ones. Men who cheat should get caught, its mainly married men who use hookers.

Again it's kind of silly to charge someone with a crime when money changes hands when its' not a crime if you do it for free.

What is the difference between women who marry old rich men, and the street walker. Not much in my opinion, except the street walker does not want to be there and needs help.

That's the joke of making "the sale of sex" illegal. As long as there are men and women with money and desires and people willing to exchange resources for affection, be it for long term contracts or for over night indulgences that could be as cheap as dinner and a movie, markets will be made.

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[Sunsettommy]

It is beyond disgraceful that some people seem to care so little about the hell that victims of this crime have to live through. Make no mistake, legalization of prostitution only creates MORE such victims. Some people apparently just don’t fucking care.

Forced Prostitution has been illegal since 1910,

The Mann Act

Yet today Sex Trafficking is a big problem despite that prostitution has been illegal for 118 years in all but 1/2 of one state.

And in that 1/2 of one state, underaged sex trafficking is a GIGANTIC problem.

Because they bring underaged kids from other states to work where it's *legal*. Johns don't check ID.

If true that is bad, but you haven't shown the evidence.

Meanwhile what about ALL the other states?

I cited national stats.

Underaged trafficking is a bigger problem in areas where prostitution is legal.

No, you were wrong about Las Vegas where Prostitution has been illegal for many decades. The rest of the states, prostitution has been illegal for a long time.

 

[longknife]

Anybody ever stop to think that the second oldest form of prostitution is marriage.

You provide me with food and shelter and I'll share your bed.

 

[keepitreal]

Prostitution is human sex trafficking. It spreads disease, it spreads misery and it's illegal because selling a human body for profit is a human rights violation....as is making a profit off of those who do it.

If a woman wants to charge a man for sexual encounters,
its her body, her right...

If a woman has the right to pay someone
to abort the consequences of sexual intercourse,
then she should have the right to charge someone for sex.

Disease and misery are not exclusive to prostitution

 

[Windparadox]

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I personally just think it should be legalized; regulated and taxed.
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[cnm]

southern Nevada

How come you don't reference those places where prostitution is legal? That's your argument after all.

 

[keepitreal]

the overwhelming majority of women, girls, boys and transgender youth, for whom the sex industry isn’t about choice but lack of choice

That's a lie!

 

[danielpalos]

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I personally just think it should be legalized; regulated and taxed.
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A Professional Woman's Guild should teach money management and how to retire in ten years or less.

 

[Windparadox]

A Professional Woman's Guild should teach money management and how to retire in ten years or less.

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It's not just females anymore, ya know.
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[danielpalos]

A Professional Woman's Guild should teach money management and how to retire in ten years or less.

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It's not just females anymore, ya know.
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Professional Men, should Always be Good capitalists.

 

[grbb]

Does Legalized Prostitution Increase Human Trafficking? by Seo-Young Cho, Axel Dreher, Eric Neumayer :: SSRN

"Countries with legalized prostitution are associated with higher human trafficking inflows than countries where prostitution is prohibited. The scale effect of legalizing prostitution, i.e. expansion of the market, outweighs the substitution effect, where legal sex workers are favored over illegal workers. On average, countries with legalized prostitution report a greater incidence of human trafficking inflows.

• The effect of legal prostitution on human trafficking inflows is stronger in high-income countries than middle-income countries. Because trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation requires that clients in a potential destination country have sufficient purchasing power, domestic supply acts as a constraint.

• Criminalization of prostitution in Sweden resulted in the shrinking of the prostitution market and the decline of human trafficking inflows. Cross-country comparisons of Sweden with Denmark (where prostitution is decriminalized) and Germany (expanded legalization of prostitution) are consistent with the quantitative analysis, showing that trafficking inflows decreased with criminalization and increased with legalization.

• The type of legalization of prostitution does not matter — it only matters whether prostitution is legal or not. Whether third-party involvement (persons who facilitate the prostitution businesses, i.e, “pimps”) is allowed or not does not have an effect on human trafficking inflows into a country. Legalization of prostitution itself is more important in explaining human trafficking than the type of legalization."

This is misleading. Even if it's true that is not a good reason to prohibit prostitution. You don't prohibit 1million acts because it may increase 100 illegal acts.

Also many of those "trafficking" are consensual. Women from poorer countries, preferring richer men, go to find those richer men in richer countries.


Of course this would hurt the interests of ugly women in western countries. So those ugly women then want to prohibit prostitution.

It's a cartel meant to eliminate competition. That is all.

 

[grbb]

Also if in anyway trafficking is not consensual, we already have laws against kidnapping, slavery, and fraud.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Prostitution has been legal here in all but two Nevada counties for several hundred years. The ladies make their own choices and are not forced in any way. They make decent money and some raise families. They are checked for health. The brothels pay taxes.

I see no reason why that cannot work everywhere in the USA.

That's a lie.
Nevada has a HUGE underaged sex trafficking problem BECAUSE it's legalized.

You have no idea what you're posting.

Let's go over this more slowly, for those who pretend not to understand that legalized sex trafficking facilitates and increases incidence of underaged sex trafficking:

"Of 190 identified sex-trafficking victims in 2014, Arizona State University researchers found two-thirds were under 18 years old, one in five was brought to southern Nevada from somewhere else.." They bring them to places where it's LEGAL and they present them as *legal*. But in reality, they're underaged, and they're being trafficked.

"The average underage victim in the study was 16. The youngest was 12."

“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

" brothels are legal in rural counties, prostitution is illegal in Clark and Washoe counties, home to Nevada’s largest cities, Las Vegas and Reno. And while sex trafficking has drawn increasing attention in recent years from local, state and federal elected officials, it has been hard to measure and difficult to stop."


“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

So these abusers and traffickers from out of the area hear that there is legalized prostitution, so they bring underaged girls to the area. The girls aren't *choosing* to "trade sex for money" or *engage in capitalism*...(code phrases for people who defend human trafficking). They are forced into prostitution by pimps who take their money, and who count on the fact that the scumbags who seek out prostitutes very rarely check age.

Study finds underage girls in Vegas sex trafficking

Way to cherry pick the article. Unfortunately, you left out the part where they were talking about prostitution in Las Vegas, where it is still illegal. Here is the first paragraph of your link..........................

LAS VEGAS -- A yearlong academic study of sex trafficking in Las Vegas is providing a glimpse into a shadowy world beneath the neon glow where underage girls, threatened by pimps, solicit for business in casinos, on streets and online.

Of 190 identified sex-trafficking victims in 2014, Arizona State University researchers found two-thirds were under 18 years old, one in five was brought to southern Nevada from somewhere else and more than half were never reported as missing.


They were talking about the sex trafficking in the city of Las Vegas. They didn't say anything about the places where it is legal.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Anybody ever stop to think that the second oldest form of prostitution is marriage.

You provide me with food and shelter and I'll share your bed.

There's a joke that says the only difference between a whore and a house-wife is the terms of the contract.

It's funny 'cause it can be true. A working wife or a career mom puts a different twist on things, makes it more of a partnership, but there are mass examples of both males and females giving a person with means a reason to give them stuff.

It's kind of creepy seeing a 77 year old white widow and his brand-new bride from Thailand that's been old enough to drink for almost a decade now, but it makes financial sense for her... all she has to do is keep him alive for a year after the marriage date and become a citizen before she reaches 60, and she can collect his Social Security & Medicare.

Pretty sweet deal if you're willing to look at a super wrinkly ball-sack for a few years.

 

[midcan5]

It is legal in Nevada, but the issue is complicated, and America's right wing is puritanical so it would end up being another wedge issue like abortion.

Prostitution in Nevada has its advantages, experts say