CDZ Prostitution, why should it be illegal?

[Soupnazi630]

It is beyond disgraceful that some people seem to care so little about the hell that victims of this crime have to live through. Make no mistake, legalization of prostitution only creates MORE such victims. Some people apparently just don’t fucking care.

Forced Prostitution has been illegal since 1910,

The Mann Act

Yet today Sex Trafficking is a big problem despite that prostitution has been illegal for 118 years in all but 1/2 of one state.

And in that 1/2 of one state, underaged sex trafficking is a GIGANTIC problem.

Because they bring underaged kids from other states to work where it's *legal*. Johns don't check ID.

The brothels do check IDs and that is the only place it is legal.the 1/2 you refer to is where it is legal

 

[koshergrl]

Prostitution is human sex trafficking. It spreads disease, it spreads misery and it's illegal because selling a human body for profit is a human rights violation....as is making a profit off of those who do it.

It is not a human rights violation when a human chooses to rent their own body.

Sex without money spreads disease.

The misery is caused by poor choices one makes and is responsible for.

Prostitution is victimless crime it is only illegal for outdated religious reasons.

Sex trafficking and prostitution are two different things.

Every human rights organization on the face of the earth begs to differ.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Prostitution has been legal here in all but two Nevada counties for several hundred years. The ladies make their own choices and are not forced in any way. They make decent money and some raise families. They are checked for health. The brothels pay taxes.

I see no reason why that cannot work everywhere in the USA.

That's a lie.
Nevada has a HUGE underaged sex trafficking problem BECAUSE it's legalized.

You have no idea what you're posting.

Let's go over this more slowly, for those who pretend not to understand that legalized sex trafficking facilitates and increases incidence of underaged sex trafficking:

"Of 190 identified sex-trafficking victims in 2014, Arizona State University researchers found two-thirds were under 18 years old, one in five was brought to southern Nevada from somewhere else.." They bring them to places where it's LEGAL and they present them as *legal*. But in reality, they're underaged, and they're being trafficked.

"The average underage victim in the study was 16. The youngest was 12."

“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

" brothels are legal in rural counties, prostitution is illegal in Clark and Washoe counties, home to Nevada’s largest cities, Las Vegas and Reno. And while sex trafficking has drawn increasing attention in recent years from local, state and federal elected officials, it has been hard to measure and difficult to stop."


“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

So these abusers and traffickers from out of the area hear that there is legalized prostitution, so they bring underaged girls to the area. The girls aren't *choosing* to "trade sex for money" or *engage in capitalism*...(code phrases for people who defend human trafficking). They are forced into prostitution by pimps who take their money, and who count on the fact that the scumbags who seek out prostitutes very rarely check age.

Study finds underage girls in Vegas sex trafficking

Yes go over it more slowly as you have created a massive fail.

It was pointed out that legalizing prostitution in parts of Nevada works fine and you respond by showing evidence of sex trafficking in the part of Nevada where it is NOT legal.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Prostitution is human sex trafficking. It spreads disease, it spreads misery and it's illegal because selling a human body for profit is a human rights violation....as is making a profit off of those who do it.

It is not a human rights violation when a human chooses to rent their own body.

Sex without money spreads disease.

The misery is caused by poor choices one makes and is responsible for.

Prostitution is victimless crime it is only illegal for outdated religious reasons.

Sex trafficking and prostitution are two different things.

Every human rights organization on the face of the earth begs to differ.

No they do not and in fact it is irrelevant.

The facts speak for themselves and prove you wrong.

 

[koshergrl]

The same character of man who defends abortion defends legalized prostitution.

As I've said before...legalized abortion is the best thing to ever happen to sex traffickers. Legalized abortion is the second best thing. It gives pimps and child abusers a legit face.

 

[koshergrl]

Prostitution has been legal here in all but two Nevada counties for several hundred years. The ladies make their own choices and are not forced in any way. They make decent money and some raise families. They are checked for health. The brothels pay taxes.

I see no reason why that cannot work everywhere in the USA.

That's a lie.
Nevada has a HUGE underaged sex trafficking problem BECAUSE it's legalized.

You have no idea what you're posting.

Let's go over this more slowly, for those who pretend not to understand that legalized sex trafficking facilitates and increases incidence of underaged sex trafficking:

"Of 190 identified sex-trafficking victims in 2014, Arizona State University researchers found two-thirds were under 18 years old, one in five was brought to southern Nevada from somewhere else.." They bring them to places where it's LEGAL and they present them as *legal*. But in reality, they're underaged, and they're being trafficked.

"The average underage victim in the study was 16. The youngest was 12."

“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

" brothels are legal in rural counties, prostitution is illegal in Clark and Washoe counties, home to Nevada’s largest cities, Las Vegas and Reno. And while sex trafficking has drawn increasing attention in recent years from local, state and federal elected officials, it has been hard to measure and difficult to stop."


“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

So these abusers and traffickers from out of the area hear that there is legalized prostitution, so they bring underaged girls to the area. The girls aren't *choosing* to "trade sex for money" or *engage in capitalism*...(code phrases for people who defend human trafficking). They are forced into prostitution by pimps who take their money, and who count on the fact that the scumbags who seek out prostitutes very rarely check age.

Study finds underage girls in Vegas sex trafficking

Yes go over it more slowly as you have created a massive fail.

It was pointed out that legalizing prostitution in parts of Nevada works fine and you respond by showing evidence of sex trafficking in the part of Nevada where it is NOT legal.

There is a reason it's worse in Nevada overall than it is anywhere else...and that reason is the fact that it's legalized....it makes it easier for pimps to manipulate desperate women into it. Which was also addressed in the material I provided.

Perhaps you should read more.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The same character of man who defends abortion defends legalized prostitution.

As I've said before...legalized abortion is the best thing to ever happen to sex traffickers. Legalized abortion is the second best thing. It gives pimps and child abusers a legit face.

I assume you mean legalized prostitution.

And no it does not.

Legalized prostitution makes life very difficult for pimps who get replaced by agents.

Conflating abortion and prostitution is a massive failure.

 

[koshergrl]

Prostitution is human sex trafficking. It spreads disease, it spreads misery and it's illegal because selling a human body for profit is a human rights violation....as is making a profit off of those who do it.

It is not a human rights violation when a human chooses to rent their own body.

Sex without money spreads disease.

The misery is caused by poor choices one makes and is responsible for.

Prostitution is victimless crime it is only illegal for outdated religious reasons.

Sex trafficking and prostitution are two different things.

Every human rights organization on the face of the earth begs to differ.

No they do not and in fact it is irrelevant.

The facts speak for themselves and prove you wrong.

Oh? Which human rights organization has come out for legalized prostitution?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Prostitution has been legal here in all but two Nevada counties for several hundred years. The ladies make their own choices and are not forced in any way. They make decent money and some raise families. They are checked for health. The brothels pay taxes.

I see no reason why that cannot work everywhere in the USA.

That's a lie.
Nevada has a HUGE underaged sex trafficking problem BECAUSE it's legalized.

You have no idea what you're posting.

Let's go over this more slowly, for those who pretend not to understand that legalized sex trafficking facilitates and increases incidence of underaged sex trafficking:

"Of 190 identified sex-trafficking victims in 2014, Arizona State University researchers found two-thirds were under 18 years old, one in five was brought to southern Nevada from somewhere else.." They bring them to places where it's LEGAL and they present them as *legal*. But in reality, they're underaged, and they're being trafficked.

"The average underage victim in the study was 16. The youngest was 12."

“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

" brothels are legal in rural counties, prostitution is illegal in Clark and Washoe counties, home to Nevada’s largest cities, Las Vegas and Reno. And while sex trafficking has drawn increasing attention in recent years from local, state and federal elected officials, it has been hard to measure and difficult to stop."


“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

So these abusers and traffickers from out of the area hear that there is legalized prostitution, so they bring underaged girls to the area. The girls aren't *choosing* to "trade sex for money" or *engage in capitalism*...(code phrases for people who defend human trafficking). They are forced into prostitution by pimps who take their money, and who count on the fact that the scumbags who seek out prostitutes very rarely check age.

Study finds underage girls in Vegas sex trafficking

Yes go over it more slowly as you have created a massive fail.

It was pointed out that legalizing prostitution in parts of Nevada works fine and you respond by showing evidence of sex trafficking in the part of Nevada where it is NOT legal.

There is a reason it's worse in Nevada overall than it is anywhere else...and that reason is the fact that it's legalized....it makes it easier for pimps to manipulate desperate women into it. Which was also addressed in the material I provided.

Perhaps you should read more.

It is not worse in Nevada as you have shown

You only demonstrated that it is worse where it is illegal.

The material you provided defeated your position

 

[Soupnazi630]

Prostitution is human sex trafficking. It spreads disease, it spreads misery and it's illegal because selling a human body for profit is a human rights violation....as is making a profit off of those who do it.

It is not a human rights violation when a human chooses to rent their own body.

Sex without money spreads disease.

The misery is caused by poor choices one makes and is responsible for.

Prostitution is victimless crime it is only illegal for outdated religious reasons.

Sex trafficking and prostitution are two different things.

Every human rights organization on the face of the earth begs to differ.

No they do not and in fact it is irrelevant.

The facts speak for themselves and prove you wrong.

Oh? Which human rights organization has come out for legalized prostitution?

It is irrelevant as organizations do not define human rights.

You do not speak for them all and not all of them have addressed this issue

 

[koshergrl]

That's a lie.
Nevada has a HUGE underaged sex trafficking problem BECAUSE it's legalized.

You have no idea what you're posting.

Let's go over this more slowly, for those who pretend not to understand that legalized sex trafficking facilitates and increases incidence of underaged sex trafficking:

"Of 190 identified sex-trafficking victims in 2014, Arizona State University researchers found two-thirds were under 18 years old, one in five was brought to southern Nevada from somewhere else.." They bring them to places where it's LEGAL and they present them as *legal*. But in reality, they're underaged, and they're being trafficked.

"The average underage victim in the study was 16. The youngest was 12."

“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

" brothels are legal in rural counties, prostitution is illegal in Clark and Washoe counties, home to Nevada’s largest cities, Las Vegas and Reno. And while sex trafficking has drawn increasing attention in recent years from local, state and federal elected officials, it has been hard to measure and difficult to stop."


“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

So these abusers and traffickers from out of the area hear that there is legalized prostitution, so they bring underaged girls to the area. The girls aren't *choosing* to "trade sex for money" or *engage in capitalism*...(code phrases for people who defend human trafficking). They are forced into prostitution by pimps who take their money, and who count on the fact that the scumbags who seek out prostitutes very rarely check age.

Study finds underage girls in Vegas sex trafficking

Yes go over it more slowly as you have created a massive fail.

It was pointed out that legalizing prostitution in parts of Nevada works fine and you respond by showing evidence of sex trafficking in the part of Nevada where it is NOT legal.

There is a reason it's worse in Nevada overall than it is anywhere else...and that reason is the fact that it's legalized....it makes it easier for pimps to manipulate desperate women into it. Which was also addressed in the material I provided.

Perhaps you should read more.

It is not worse in Nevada as you have shown

You only demonstrated that it is worse where it is illegal.

No, I demonstrated it was worse state wide.
But here is some more:

"Prostitution of adults is legal in 11 rural counties in Nevada. By creating false identification, outside pimps can use these brothels to traffic children.[7][8][9] Detective Greg Harvey, from Eugene, Oregon, said such cases were in reality very common; he said, "It's happening right now, it's amazing how many girls are shipped from here to different brothels in northern and southern Nevada. Many are underage." Another detective, Sgt. Pete Kerns, supported Harvey's claims: "Never buy the line that nobody under 18 works in (Nevada brothels)," he said. "It's happening."[9]

"In her 2007 report, Prostitution and trafficking in Nevada: making the connections, Melissa Farley presents the results of numerous interviews with brothel owners and prostitutes, she says that most brothel prostitutes are controlled by outside pimps and that they suffer widespread abuse by brothel owners and customers.[10] Bob Herbertsupports the claim, stating: "Despite the fiction that they are "independent contractors," most so-called legal prostitutes have pimps — the state-sanctioned pimps who run the brothels and, in many cases, a second pimp who controls all other aspects of their lives (and takes the bulk of their legal earnings)."[8]

"Alexa Albert says that the trafficking is done in cooperation with brothel owners, so the prostitutes will be easier to control.[7] Assemblyman Bob L. Beers said that "A brothel owner is somebody who, when it gets down to the very essence, is nothing more than a slave-owner."[11] Former Nye County Commissioner Candice Trummell, director of the Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking, said "It is way past time for Nevada to be the last state in the United States of America to finally stand against all forms of slavery."[12]

"In 2009, an article in the Guardian stated that some brothels "impose some extraordinary restrictions on commercial sex workers" in order to "separate sex workers from the local community": some places forbid prostitutes to leave the brothels for extended periods of time, while other jurisdictions require the prostitutes to leave the county when they are not working; some places do not allow the children of the women who work in the brothels to live in the same area; some brothel workers are not permitted to leave the brothel after 5pm; in some counties registered sex workers are not allowed to have cars at all.[13] Another former prostitute who worked in four Nevada brothels attacked the system, saying, "Under this system, prostitutes give up too much autonomy, control and choice over their work and lives" and "While the brothel owners love this profitable solution, it can be exploitative and is unnecessary". She described how the women were subject to various exaggerated restrictions, including making it very difficult for them to refuse clients and having to deal with doctors who had a "patronizing or sexist attitude" (the brothels discouraged and in many cases forbade prostitutes to see doctors of their own choosing).[14]"

Human trafficking in Nevada - Wikipedia

 

[koshergrl]

Prostitution is human sex trafficking. It spreads disease, it spreads misery and it's illegal because selling a human body for profit is a human rights violation....as is making a profit off of those who do it.

It is not a human rights violation when a human chooses to rent their own body.

Sex without money spreads disease.

The misery is caused by poor choices one makes and is responsible for.

Prostitution is victimless crime it is only illegal for outdated religious reasons.

Sex trafficking and prostitution are two different things.

Every human rights organization on the face of the earth begs to differ.

No they do not and in fact it is irrelevant.

The facts speak for themselves and prove you wrong.

Oh? Which human rights organization has come out for legalized prostitution?

It is irrelevant as organizations do not define human rights.

You do not speak for them all and not all of them have addressed this issue

So you admit you were lying when you said that human rights organizations support legalized prostitution.

Of course you were. I exposed you neatly enough, your admission was not required, but it is still welcomed.

 

[Soupnazi630]

You have no idea what you're posting.

Let's go over this more slowly, for those who pretend not to understand that legalized sex trafficking facilitates and increases incidence of underaged sex trafficking:

"Of 190 identified sex-trafficking victims in 2014, Arizona State University researchers found two-thirds were under 18 years old, one in five was brought to southern Nevada from somewhere else.." They bring them to places where it's LEGAL and they present them as *legal*. But in reality, they're underaged, and they're being trafficked.

"The average underage victim in the study was 16. The youngest was 12."

“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

" brothels are legal in rural counties, prostitution is illegal in Clark and Washoe counties, home to Nevada’s largest cities, Las Vegas and Reno. And while sex trafficking has drawn increasing attention in recent years from local, state and federal elected officials, it has been hard to measure and difficult to stop."


“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

So these abusers and traffickers from out of the area hear that there is legalized prostitution, so they bring underaged girls to the area. The girls aren't *choosing* to "trade sex for money" or *engage in capitalism*...(code phrases for people who defend human trafficking). They are forced into prostitution by pimps who take their money, and who count on the fact that the scumbags who seek out prostitutes very rarely check age.

Study finds underage girls in Vegas sex trafficking

Yes go over it more slowly as you have created a massive fail.

It was pointed out that legalizing prostitution in parts of Nevada works fine and you respond by showing evidence of sex trafficking in the part of Nevada where it is NOT legal.

There is a reason it's worse in Nevada overall than it is anywhere else...and that reason is the fact that it's legalized....it makes it easier for pimps to manipulate desperate women into it. Which was also addressed in the material I provided.

Perhaps you should read more.

It is not worse in Nevada as you have shown

You only demonstrated that it is worse where it is illegal.

No, I demonstrated it was worse state wide.
But here is some more:

"Prostitution of adults is legal in 11 rural counties in Nevada. By creating false identification, outside pimps can use these brothels to traffic children.[7][8][9] Detective Greg Harvey, from Eugene, Oregon, said such cases were in reality very common; he said, "It's happening right now, it's amazing how many girls are shipped from here to different brothels in northern and southern Nevada. Many are underage." Another detective, Sgt. Pete Kerns, supported Harvey's claims: "Never buy the line that nobody under 18 works in (Nevada brothels)," he said. "It's happening."[9]

"In her 2007 report, Prostitution and trafficking in Nevada: making the connections, Melissa Farley presents the results of numerous interviews with brothel owners and prostitutes, she says that most brothel prostitutes are controlled by outside pimps and that they suffer widespread abuse by brothel owners and customers.[10] Bob Herbertsupports the claim, stating: "Despite the fiction that they are "independent contractors," most so-called legal prostitutes have pimps — the state-sanctioned pimps who run the brothels and, in many cases, a second pimp who controls all other aspects of their lives (and takes the bulk of their legal earnings)."[8]

"Alexa Albert says that the trafficking is done in cooperation with brothel owners, so the prostitutes will be easier to control.[7] Assemblyman Bob L. Beers said that "A brothel owner is somebody who, when it gets down to the very essence, is nothing more than a slave-owner."[11] Former Nye County Commissioner Candice Trummell, director of the Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking, said "It is way past time for Nevada to be the last state in the United States of America to finally stand against all forms of slavery."[12]

"In 2009, an article in the Guardian stated that some brothels "impose some extraordinary restrictions on commercial sex workers" in order to "separate sex workers from the local community": some places forbid prostitutes to leave the brothels for extended periods of time, while other jurisdictions require the prostitutes to leave the county when they are not working; some places do not allow the children of the women who work in the brothels to live in the same area; some brothel workers are not permitted to leave the brothel after 5pm; in some counties registered sex workers are not allowed to have cars at all.[13] Another former prostitute who worked in four Nevada brothels attacked the system, saying, "Under this system, prostitutes give up too much autonomy, control and choice over their work and lives" and "While the brothel owners love this profitable solution, it can be exploitative and is unnecessary". She described how the women were subject to various exaggerated restrictions, including making it very difficult for them to refuse clients and having to deal with doctors who had a "patronizing or sexist attitude" (the brothels discouraged and in many cases forbade prostitutes to see doctors of their own choosing).[14]"

Human trafficking in Nevada - Wikipedia

No you only presented evidence of problem where it is illegal.

In this post you offer accusations without evidence.

I have yet to seen one example of a victim of trafficking or of violent pimps within a legal brothel.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It is not a human rights violation when a human chooses to rent their own body.

Sex without money spreads disease.

The misery is caused by poor choices one makes and is responsible for.

Prostitution is victimless crime it is only illegal for outdated religious reasons.

Sex trafficking and prostitution are two different things.

Every human rights organization on the face of the earth begs to differ.

No they do not and in fact it is irrelevant.

The facts speak for themselves and prove you wrong.

Oh? Which human rights organization has come out for legalized prostitution?

It is irrelevant as organizations do not define human rights.

You do not speak for them all and not all of them have addressed this issue

So you admit you were lying when you said that human rights organizations support legalized prostitution.

Of course you were. I exposed you neatly enough, your admission was not required, but it is still welcomed.

I did not lie as I never claimed any of them support legalized prostitution.

You are the liar making false accusations about my statements.

You exposed only your own dishonesty and cowardice.

If you are going to accused me of saying something provide a quote.

You cannot and will not because you lied like a coward about my post.

 

[koshergrl]

Let's go over this more slowly, for those who pretend not to understand that legalized sex trafficking facilitates and increases incidence of underaged sex trafficking:

"Of 190 identified sex-trafficking victims in 2014, Arizona State University researchers found two-thirds were under 18 years old, one in five was brought to southern Nevada from somewhere else.." They bring them to places where it's LEGAL and they present them as *legal*. But in reality, they're underaged, and they're being trafficked.

"The average underage victim in the study was 16. The youngest was 12."

“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

" brothels are legal in rural counties, prostitution is illegal in Clark and Washoe counties, home to Nevada’s largest cities, Las Vegas and Reno. And while sex trafficking has drawn increasing attention in recent years from local, state and federal elected officials, it has been hard to measure and difficult to stop."


“They are violently forced into this,” said Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of the ASU Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, which conducted the study of a sex trade that’s been made part of a “Sin City” image and reinforced by a misperception that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas.

So these abusers and traffickers from out of the area hear that there is legalized prostitution, so they bring underaged girls to the area. The girls aren't *choosing* to "trade sex for money" or *engage in capitalism*...(code phrases for people who defend human trafficking). They are forced into prostitution by pimps who take their money, and who count on the fact that the scumbags who seek out prostitutes very rarely check age.

Study finds underage girls in Vegas sex trafficking

Yes go over it more slowly as you have created a massive fail.

It was pointed out that legalizing prostitution in parts of Nevada works fine and you respond by showing evidence of sex trafficking in the part of Nevada where it is NOT legal.

There is a reason it's worse in Nevada overall than it is anywhere else...and that reason is the fact that it's legalized....it makes it easier for pimps to manipulate desperate women into it. Which was also addressed in the material I provided.

Perhaps you should read more.

It is not worse in Nevada as you have shown

You only demonstrated that it is worse where it is illegal.

No, I demonstrated it was worse state wide.
But here is some more:

"Prostitution of adults is legal in 11 rural counties in Nevada. By creating false identification, outside pimps can use these brothels to traffic children.[7][8][9] Detective Greg Harvey, from Eugene, Oregon, said such cases were in reality very common; he said, "It's happening right now, it's amazing how many girls are shipped from here to different brothels in northern and southern Nevada. Many are underage." Another detective, Sgt. Pete Kerns, supported Harvey's claims: "Never buy the line that nobody under 18 works in (Nevada brothels)," he said. "It's happening."[9]

"In her 2007 report, Prostitution and trafficking in Nevada: making the connections, Melissa Farley presents the results of numerous interviews with brothel owners and prostitutes, she says that most brothel prostitutes are controlled by outside pimps and that they suffer widespread abuse by brothel owners and customers.[10] Bob Herbertsupports the claim, stating: "Despite the fiction that they are "independent contractors," most so-called legal prostitutes have pimps — the state-sanctioned pimps who run the brothels and, in many cases, a second pimp who controls all other aspects of their lives (and takes the bulk of their legal earnings)."[8]

"Alexa Albert says that the trafficking is done in cooperation with brothel owners, so the prostitutes will be easier to control.[7] Assemblyman Bob L. Beers said that "A brothel owner is somebody who, when it gets down to the very essence, is nothing more than a slave-owner."[11] Former Nye County Commissioner Candice Trummell, director of the Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking, said "It is way past time for Nevada to be the last state in the United States of America to finally stand against all forms of slavery."[12]

"In 2009, an article in the Guardian stated that some brothels "impose some extraordinary restrictions on commercial sex workers" in order to "separate sex workers from the local community": some places forbid prostitutes to leave the brothels for extended periods of time, while other jurisdictions require the prostitutes to leave the county when they are not working; some places do not allow the children of the women who work in the brothels to live in the same area; some brothel workers are not permitted to leave the brothel after 5pm; in some counties registered sex workers are not allowed to have cars at all.[13] Another former prostitute who worked in four Nevada brothels attacked the system, saying, "Under this system, prostitutes give up too much autonomy, control and choice over their work and lives" and "While the brothel owners love this profitable solution, it can be exploitative and is unnecessary". She described how the women were subject to various exaggerated restrictions, including making it very difficult for them to refuse clients and having to deal with doctors who had a "patronizing or sexist attitude" (the brothels discouraged and in many cases forbade prostitutes to see doctors of their own choosing).[14]"

Human trafficking in Nevada - Wikipedia

No you only presented evidence of problem where it is illegal.

In this post you offer accusations without evidence.

I have yet to seen one example of a victim of trafficking or of violent pimps within a legal brothel.

You're a liar.
I did provide evidence.
And they cite the issues within the legal brothels in some detail.

 

[koshergrl]

"
Regardless of prostitution's status (legal, illegal or decriminalized) or its physical location (strip club, massage parlor, street, escort/home/hotel), prostitution is extremely dangerous for women. Homicide is a frequent cause of death (Potterat et al., 2004).

"Prolonged and repeated trauma precedes entry into prostitution, with most women beginning prostitution as sexually abused adolescents (Bagley and Young, 1987; Belton, 1992; Dworkin, 1997; Farley and Barkan, 1998; Silbert and Pines, 1983b, 1981; Simons and Whitbeck, 1991) (Table 1). Homelessness is frequently a precipitating event to prostitution. Women in prostitution are frequently raped and physically assaulted (Farley et al., 2003; Hunter, 1994; Miller, 1995; Parriott, 1994; Silbert and Pines, 1983a)."

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/sexual-offenses/prostitution-sexual-violence

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yes go over it more slowly as you have created a massive fail.

It was pointed out that legalizing prostitution in parts of Nevada works fine and you respond by showing evidence of sex trafficking in the part of Nevada where it is NOT legal.

There is a reason it's worse in Nevada overall than it is anywhere else...and that reason is the fact that it's legalized....it makes it easier for pimps to manipulate desperate women into it. Which was also addressed in the material I provided.

Perhaps you should read more.

It is not worse in Nevada as you have shown

You only demonstrated that it is worse where it is illegal.

No, I demonstrated it was worse state wide.
But here is some more:

"Prostitution of adults is legal in 11 rural counties in Nevada. By creating false identification, outside pimps can use these brothels to traffic children.[7][8][9] Detective Greg Harvey, from Eugene, Oregon, said such cases were in reality very common; he said, "It's happening right now, it's amazing how many girls are shipped from here to different brothels in northern and southern Nevada. Many are underage." Another detective, Sgt. Pete Kerns, supported Harvey's claims: "Never buy the line that nobody under 18 works in (Nevada brothels)," he said. "It's happening."[9]

"In her 2007 report, Prostitution and trafficking in Nevada: making the connections, Melissa Farley presents the results of numerous interviews with brothel owners and prostitutes, she says that most brothel prostitutes are controlled by outside pimps and that they suffer widespread abuse by brothel owners and customers.[10] Bob Herbertsupports the claim, stating: "Despite the fiction that they are "independent contractors," most so-called legal prostitutes have pimps — the state-sanctioned pimps who run the brothels and, in many cases, a second pimp who controls all other aspects of their lives (and takes the bulk of their legal earnings)."[8]

"Alexa Albert says that the trafficking is done in cooperation with brothel owners, so the prostitutes will be easier to control.[7] Assemblyman Bob L. Beers said that "A brothel owner is somebody who, when it gets down to the very essence, is nothing more than a slave-owner."[11] Former Nye County Commissioner Candice Trummell, director of the Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking, said "It is way past time for Nevada to be the last state in the United States of America to finally stand against all forms of slavery."[12]

"In 2009, an article in the Guardian stated that some brothels "impose some extraordinary restrictions on commercial sex workers" in order to "separate sex workers from the local community": some places forbid prostitutes to leave the brothels for extended periods of time, while other jurisdictions require the prostitutes to leave the county when they are not working; some places do not allow the children of the women who work in the brothels to live in the same area; some brothel workers are not permitted to leave the brothel after 5pm; in some counties registered sex workers are not allowed to have cars at all.[13] Another former prostitute who worked in four Nevada brothels attacked the system, saying, "Under this system, prostitutes give up too much autonomy, control and choice over their work and lives" and "While the brothel owners love this profitable solution, it can be exploitative and is unnecessary". She described how the women were subject to various exaggerated restrictions, including making it very difficult for them to refuse clients and having to deal with doctors who had a "patronizing or sexist attitude" (the brothels discouraged and in many cases forbade prostitutes to see doctors of their own choosing).[14]"

Human trafficking in Nevada - Wikipedia

No you only presented evidence of problem where it is illegal.

In this post you offer accusations without evidence.

I have yet to seen one example of a victim of trafficking or of violent pimps within a legal brothel.

You're a liar.
I did provide evidence.
And they cite the issues within the legal brothels in some detail.

I am not the liar here you are.

You did not provide evidence of trafficking within legal brothels but only within counties where prostitution is illegal.

You only provided accusations with no evidence concerning legal brothels.

 

[koshergrl]

"It is a cruel lie to suggest that decriminalization or legalization will protect anyone in prostitution. It is not possible to protect someone whose source of income exposes them to the likelihood of being raped on average once a week (Hunter, 1994)."

"Despite the illogical attempt of some to distinguish prostitution from trafficking, trafficking is simply the global form of prostitution. Sex trafficking may occur within or across international borders, thus women may be either domestically or internationally trafficked or both. Young women are trafficked--taken and sold for sexual use--from the countryside to the city, from one part of town to another, and across international borders to wherever there are customers.

"It is a clinical and a statistical error to assume that most women in prostitution have consented. Instead of the question, "Did she voluntarily consent to prostitution?" the more relevant question would be, "Did she have real alternatives to prostitution for survival?" The incidence of homelessness (75%) among our respondents and their desire to get out of prostitution (89%) reflect their lack of options for escape (Farley et al., 2003).

"Until it is understood that prostitution and trafficking can appear voluntary but are not really free choices made from a range of options, it will be difficult to garner adequate support to assist those who wish to escape but have no other economic choices. The conditions that make genuine consent possible are absent from prostitution: physical safety, equal power with customers and real alternatives (Hernandez, 2001; MacKinnon, 1993)."

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/sexual-offenses/prostitution-sexual-violence/page/0/1

 

[Soupnazi630]

"
Regardless of prostitution's status (legal, illegal or decriminalized) or its physical location (strip club, massage parlor, street, escort/home/hotel), prostitution is extremely dangerous for women. Homicide is a frequent cause of death (Potterat et al., 2004).

"Prolonged and repeated trauma precedes entry into prostitution, with most women beginning prostitution as sexually abused adolescents (Bagley and Young, 1987; Belton, 1992; Dworkin, 1997; Farley and Barkan, 1998; Silbert and Pines, 1983b, 1981; Simons and Whitbeck, 1991) (Table 1). Homelessness is frequently a precipitating event to prostitution. Women in prostitution are frequently raped and physically assaulted (Farley et al., 2003; Hunter, 1994; Miller, 1995; Parriott, 1994; Silbert and Pines, 1983a)."

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/sexual-offenses/prostitution-sexual-violence

Yes and those problems are made worse because of criminalizing prostitution.

The problems associated with prostitution are eased and reduced when it is legalized.

 

[koshergrl]

There is a reason it's worse in Nevada overall than it is anywhere else...and that reason is the fact that it's legalized....it makes it easier for pimps to manipulate desperate women into it. Which was also addressed in the material I provided.

Perhaps you should read more.

It is not worse in Nevada as you have shown

You only demonstrated that it is worse where it is illegal.

No, I demonstrated it was worse state wide.
But here is some more:

"Prostitution of adults is legal in 11 rural counties in Nevada. By creating false identification, outside pimps can use these brothels to traffic children.[7][8][9] Detective Greg Harvey, from Eugene, Oregon, said such cases were in reality very common; he said, "It's happening right now, it's amazing how many girls are shipped from here to different brothels in northern and southern Nevada. Many are underage." Another detective, Sgt. Pete Kerns, supported Harvey's claims: "Never buy the line that nobody under 18 works in (Nevada brothels)," he said. "It's happening."[9]

"In her 2007 report, Prostitution and trafficking in Nevada: making the connections, Melissa Farley presents the results of numerous interviews with brothel owners and prostitutes, she says that most brothel prostitutes are controlled by outside pimps and that they suffer widespread abuse by brothel owners and customers.[10] Bob Herbertsupports the claim, stating: "Despite the fiction that they are "independent contractors," most so-called legal prostitutes have pimps — the state-sanctioned pimps who run the brothels and, in many cases, a second pimp who controls all other aspects of their lives (and takes the bulk of their legal earnings)."[8]

"Alexa Albert says that the trafficking is done in cooperation with brothel owners, so the prostitutes will be easier to control.[7] Assemblyman Bob L. Beers said that "A brothel owner is somebody who, when it gets down to the very essence, is nothing more than a slave-owner."[11] Former Nye County Commissioner Candice Trummell, director of the Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking, said "It is way past time for Nevada to be the last state in the United States of America to finally stand against all forms of slavery."[12]

"In 2009, an article in the Guardian stated that some brothels "impose some extraordinary restrictions on commercial sex workers" in order to "separate sex workers from the local community": some places forbid prostitutes to leave the brothels for extended periods of time, while other jurisdictions require the prostitutes to leave the county when they are not working; some places do not allow the children of the women who work in the brothels to live in the same area; some brothel workers are not permitted to leave the brothel after 5pm; in some counties registered sex workers are not allowed to have cars at all.[13] Another former prostitute who worked in four Nevada brothels attacked the system, saying, "Under this system, prostitutes give up too much autonomy, control and choice over their work and lives" and "While the brothel owners love this profitable solution, it can be exploitative and is unnecessary". She described how the women were subject to various exaggerated restrictions, including making it very difficult for them to refuse clients and having to deal with doctors who had a "patronizing or sexist attitude" (the brothels discouraged and in many cases forbade prostitutes to see doctors of their own choosing).[14]"

Human trafficking in Nevada - Wikipedia

No you only presented evidence of problem where it is illegal.

In this post you offer accusations without evidence.

I have yet to seen one example of a victim of trafficking or of violent pimps within a legal brothel.

You're a liar.
I did provide evidence.
And they cite the issues within the legal brothels in some detail.

I am not the liar here you are.

You did not provide evidence of trafficking within legal brothels but only within counties where prostitution is illegal.

You only provided accusations with no evidence concerning legal brothels.

No, I provided the evidence.
You're headed for ignore land if you keep lying blatantly.