Prop. 8 Backer Exposed As A Liar?

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    Link to earlier discussion: http://www.usmessageboard.com/law-and-justice-system/100660-rights-deniers-whine-about-public-spotlight-in-court-2.html#post1895658

    Link to story about backer: Prop. 8 Backer Exposed...story...

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    This is the face of hate and bigotry:

    He wants out after having went all over the media and the state of CA. spreading his hateful lies and propaganda?

    :lol:
     
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    Prop. 8, the trial that should be seen
    It's more than a legal case; it's a morality play aimed at all of us, and we should get to hear it.
    Prop. 8, the trial that should be seen - latimes.com
     
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    what does immie think?
     
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    ""to buttress the contention that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional because it was fueled by deep-seated animosity against gays,""

    I hate prop 8 as well but why should this matter?

    Shouldn't all that matter is whether or not the law coincides with the limits the government has and the rights granted to citizens?

    If a good law was made for really stupid reasons should it be thrown out?
     
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    What matters is that Prop. 8, is a petition seeking to take away a right already granted as legal by the courts.

    Prop. 8, is seeking to deny a right to a select group. The arguments for Prop. 8 are being challenged.

    Bad laws and good laws must be constitutional.. Prop. 8, is beinh fought on constitutional grounds.

    Under the Constitution rights cannot be abrigated lightly. Citizens cannot vote to take away rights granted/recognized/enumerated by/in the Constitution.
     
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    I don't see anywhere in the posts that you made, that shows that he was a liar.

    What I see is a blogger that says he is inconsistent.

    And we all know bloggers are always right.

    Immie
     
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    limits on the rights of government isn't really the issue. the real issues is whether the state can utilize it's right to determine status (e.g., marriage) can be used in such manner that it would deny the status of marriage to people because of their sexual orientation. (so the argument is one of equal protection).

    oh...and that's why it matters... because you can't adversely act against a suspect class on an issue of fundamental rights because of prejudice.
     
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    Tam lied about fearing public exposure. Tam lied about his reasons for oppposing gay marriage. Tam fought to be part of the law suit. He's changed his mind....after....the court said it would allow the Prop. 8 backer's public statements as evidence.

    Tam's pals fouught and won the argument that what they said and wrote and planned behind the scenes was to be removed from being called into evidence.

    The whole campaign behind Prop. 8 in CA. was built on deception and lies.. The backers fear the public spotlight on who and what they are about. They are the Klan without the sheets, the ropes and the violence. Hate is hate.

    notice I differentiate between the backers..the movers and shakers of Prop. 8, and the dupes who signed the ballot initiative
     
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    true, but you're not in class.

    speak English. LOL

    14th amendment...
    equal protection and due process? (*tired)
     

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