Probable End To Shutdown

How do you think shutdown ends?

  • President Trump folds,gets no money for wall

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Pelosi folds and gives President Trump money for wall

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pelosi accepts President Trump's proposal of money for protection for DACA

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Trump accepts amnesty for DACA and gets money for wall

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Shut down doesn't end until 2020

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Trump declares national emergency and builds wall

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Pelosi faces civil war in democrat party and folds

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Trump faces civil war in GOP and folds

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    10
tRump folds like he just did on the SOTU adress.
He acted like the adult while letting Pelosi act like the child she is. Good for him. Let the country see Pelosi is acting like a child who got told NO! and refuses to act like the speaker of the house.
Depends on the polls.
For who? President Trump hasn't cared about the polls since he started running. They were wrong in 2016 and I would be money it are still wrong. I think it will more depend on the pressure from each side and the GOP wants a smaller government,the leftists want a bigger government and longer the government is shut down the more it shows the American people they don't NEED bigger government and that in turn will hurt the leftists not Trump.

What are you talking about? Trump promotes polls when they make him look good. Remember that one time Rasmussen had him at a very mediocre 50%?

Also, the national polls were dead on, but you're too dumb not to confuse and conflate prediction models with polls.

And the one thing almost all Americans can agree on, we need A government. You keep forgetting that most Americans find your brand of politics kind of disgusting.
Nope they weren't spot on,they had her winning PERIOD. They had her winning Florida,NC,Wisconsin,Pennsylvania,etc etc etc...We don't NEED a government period but you seem to not understand there is a difference between needing government and needing what the leftists want which is government that controls EVERY aspect of our lives,the people do NOT want that.
tRump folds like he just did on the SOTU adress.
He acted like the adult while letting Pelosi act like the child she is. Good for him. Let the country see Pelosi is acting like a child who got told NO! and refuses to act like the speaker of the house.
Depends on the polls.
For who? President Trump hasn't cared about the polls since he started running. They were wrong in 2016 and I would be money it are still wrong. I think it will more depend on the pressure from each side and the GOP wants a smaller government,the leftists want a bigger government and longer the government is shut down the more it shows the American people they don't NEED bigger government and that in turn will hurt the leftists not Trump.
Lol, you said "tRump" and "adult" in the same sentence.
Lol, you said "tRump" in a sentence...yeah truly an adult you are.
tRump folds like he just did on the SOTU adress.
He acted like the adult while letting Pelosi act like the child she is. Good for him. Let the country see Pelosi is acting like a child who got told NO! and refuses to act like the speaker of the house.
Depends on the polls.
For who? President Trump hasn't cared about the polls since he started running. They were wrong in 2016 and I would be money it are still wrong. I think it will more depend on the pressure from each side and the GOP wants a smaller government,the leftists want a bigger government and longer the government is shut down the more it shows the American people they don't NEED bigger government and that in turn will hurt the leftists not Trump.

You are so clueless. The 2016 polls were right. They showed Clinton winning the popular vote and she did. They showed a large lead for Democrats in the generic vote for Congress and it was right. The Trump people admit that you could see 0% growth. They will see the effects and will not like it.
Nope they were wrong,they didn't differentiate between the popular vote and the electoral college vote they had her winning states she lost especially Pa,Michigan and Wisconsin,the leftists didn't take over ANYTHING in congress in 2016 and now people can see the HUGE mistake they made giving the house to the leftists...meh we still control senate and only need 51 votes to continue fixing the judiciary so....I am fine with a 2 year shut down.
 
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Many departments of the government are running out of money.

Including the courts.

The federal courts only have enough money to continue until February. Then they also shutdown. TSA and ICE will run out of money soon. Along with other important organizations that need to be funded and kept open.

The very possible end to this shutdown is that mcconell won't want to lose his seat in the Senate. He's up for reelection in 2020. Along with a lot of republicans. They all know that the majority of the people don't want this wall. They know that the majority of the people blame all this on trump and the republicans. All those republicans who are up for reelection are going to want to get the government open so they can keep their jobs. Or at least try to keep their jobs.

It's very possible that the congress will pass legislation without any money for the wall. They will send it to trump. He has 10 days to sign it. If he doesn't sign it, it becomes law. Or he can veto it. It will go back to congress. The congress will override his veto.

The government reopens.

trump and his supporters can save face by saying he voted it. Then spend the next 2 years lying about the whole thing to blame it all on democrats.

Most Americans were against Obamacare when it passed, do you have an actual point or do we just base our nation on polls and nothing else?

Republicans tried to shut down the government and succeeded for 16 days which is the 3rd longest shutdown on record.

Great, doesn’t change the fact that most Americans were against Obamacare when it was passed. Still no point?
And when the smoke cleared and the lies about it dissipated...that reversed.

What you are rewriting history?
 
If Nancy Pelosi had shut down the Government until Republicans agreed to repeal the 2018 tax cuts or pass Medicaid for all

Would Republicans be screaming for Trump to negotiate?

IF you had a brain, you would be able to see the shutdown is the result of BOTH parties refusing to negotiate.

BTW, if Obama built a wall, why can't Trump?
Doesn’t answer the question

If the only issue was to repeal the 2018 tax cut or the government stays closed
Would you negotiate on repeal?



The reason why you're getting all this deflection is because they don't want to admit they wouldn't negotiate with Nancy if she demanded that all the 2018 tax cuts were repealed or if she demanded medicare for all.

They are cowards.

They won't admit that trump shutdown the government and they won't admit that if the shoe was on the other foot, they wouldn't negotiate with her.
 
If Nancy Pelosi had shut down the Government until Republicans agreed to repeal the 2018 tax cuts or pass Medicaid for all

Would Republicans be screaming for Trump to negotiate?

IF you had a brain, you would be able to see the shutdown is the result of BOTH parties refusing to negotiate.

BTW, if Obama built a wall, why can't Trump?
Doesn’t answer the question

If the only issue was to repeal the 2018 tax cut or the government stays closed
Would you negotiate on repeal?



The reason why you're getting all this deflection is because they don't want to admit they wouldn't negotiate with Nancy if she demanded that all the 2018 tax cuts were repealed or if she demanded medicare for all.

They are cowards.

They won't admit that trump shutdown the government and they won't admit that if the shoe was on the other foot, they wouldn't negotiate with her.

I am having a tough time believing either side is wanting to negotiate anything. Trump and Pelosi are both putting party over politics and it is not going to change anytime soon. I would never, ever vote for these two people for anything.

We need elected officials that work for the people, not the Democrats or Republicans who work for the rich.
 
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