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[Olde Europe]

Ignore the evidence from law enforcement of far more serious groups at play here and keep pretending it is just commie resurgence, after all the right NEEDS an enemy to unite against, and distract the nation. Jihadists are passe. What better than to reignite the red scare?

What better way is there to discredit the protests against police violence than to instigate violence against the police? There is none:

Trump made no mention of groups on the far right. Behind the scenes, however, DHS was acknowledging “media reports” indicating “that neo-Nazi, and other paramilitary far-right groups, are calling for terror attacks during the ongoing unrest throughout the United States.”

“A series of Telegram accounts linked to a wider network of paramilitary far-right extremists have indicated that ongoing disturbances are spreading America’s police forces thin, making this the ideal time to strike with a strategic attack,” the agency reported in a round-up of intelligence reports coming in from around the country, published the following morning. “One account, with thousands of followers and links to several neo-Nazi terror groups like The Base and the Nordic Resistance Movement, called for attacks on critical infrastructure.” The agency noted that Twitter had recently removed a fake antifa account “created by a known white supremacist group” that had issued a call to violence.

“Although the account only had a few hundred followers, it is an example of white supremacists seeking to inflame tensions in the United States,” DHS reported.​

Small wonder that a notoriously right-wing law-enforcement crowd, and a White House pandering to the outer fringes of the right up to and including QAnon, would joyously join ranks with neo-Nazi and White supremacist instigators while seeking to blame it all on Antifa, and, by implication, on the Democrats.

Yep, they know it, the hacked documents prove it, but the Trump administration's quest for re-election requires evidence be suppressed, and law enforcement investigate in all the wrong corners. Trump, without question, is the biggest beneficiary of the riots and arson, and the biggest victims are those genuinely concerned about reform and protesting, along with the communities of color, whose demands will be heard the less the more thugs manage to besmirch the protests. And now, the artificially fanned flames of "Commie anarchists coming after you and your livelihoods" hysteria seem to have cost two lives in Kenosha.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

A comprehensive list of police officers injured or killed in US riots

Here is a list of officers who have been attacked or killed during the ongoing US riots. by True North Wire June 4, 2020 As protests erupt across the US over the death of George Floyd, numerous law…

jonsnewplace.wordpress.com

Albany, N.Y.: Officer sent to the hospital after protester throws a brick at him

Atlanta: Officer Maximilian Brewer underwent surgery after a protester hit him with an ATV

Brockton, Mass.: One state trooper and a few local Brockton police officers suffered minor injuries

Buffalo, N.Y.: Two police officers are hit by a vehicle and one other has his leg broken and pelvis shattered after protesters run him over

Champaign, Ill: Several police officers suffered minor injuries after allegedly being assaulted

Cincinnati, Ohio: Officer narrowly escaped death after a bullet struck his ballistic helmet

Columbia, S.C.: 15 law enforcement personnel injured during a Saturday riot

Chicago: 132 Chicago Police Department officers injured in violent riots in the city

Davenport, Iowa: A plainclothes police officer injured after an individual opened fire on his vehicle

Denver: Three city police officers sent to the hospital after a hit-and-run that also injured a bystander

Harrisburg, Penn.: Two police officers sent to the hospital during a violent protest on Saturday

Las Vegas: One cop put on life support after he was shot in the head during a violent protest on Monday; 12 additional officers injured during Friday’s rioting

Los Angeles: 27 LAPD officers injured during weekend rioting

Lynchburg, Va.: Several officers were shot at during protests but were not injured

Minnesota: Police officers shot at during a protest, and a precinct in the city was set on fire by protesters

Maryland: Protesters injured four county police officers and damaged several police cruisers

New York City: Dozens of NYPD officers injured during weekend rioting with one video showing an officer being struck by a car in a hit-and-run

Oak Lawn, Il.: Three officers injured during Monday’s protests

Oakland, Calif.: FBI officer Dave Patrick Underwood was shot and killed while providing security for a courthouse, and another officer was injured in the shooting

Philadelphia: City police reported several assaults on officers and multiple police cars set on fire

Pittsburgh, Penn.: Nine police officers hurt and sent to the hospital in clashes with protesters

Richmond, Va.: Two officers hurt during a protest after being hit with a baseball bat and a beer bottle

Rhode Island: Nine officers injured amongst rioting

Sacramento, Calif.: Seven police officers received minor injuries at the hands of violent protesters

Salt Lake City, Utah: 21 police officers required medical care after being injured by protesters, with one reporting that he was hit on the head with a baseball bat

San Antonio: Three officers were injured after being hit by bricks and bottles

San Jose, Calif.: Several officers sustained injuries during a May 29 protest and one was sent to the hospital

Santa Ana, Calif.: Two officers had to be taken to the hospital after being hit in the head by projectiles thrown at them by protesters

St. Louis, Mo.: 77-year-old David Dorn, a retired police officer, was shot dead by looters. His death was broadcast live on Facebook. Four other police officers were also shot in downtown St. Louis by violent protesters

Washington, D.C.: 11 Washington police officers injured during Sunday’s protests. One officer required surgery after being hit by a brick in the leg. Over 50 members of the Secret Service were also hurt during clashes, some sustaining injuries from Molotov cocktails



This is only til June 5th

So much peaceful protest

So much support for it.

 

[eagle1462010]

A comprehensive list of police officers injured or killed in US riots

Here is a list of officers who have been attacked or killed during the ongoing US riots. by True North Wire June 4, 2020 As protests erupt across the US over the death of George Floyd, numerous law…

jonsnewplace.wordpress.com

Albany, N.Y.: Officer sent to the hospital after protester throws a brick at him

Atlanta: Officer Maximilian Brewer underwent surgery after a protester hit him with an ATV

Brockton, Mass.: One state trooper and a few local Brockton police officers suffered minor injuries

Buffalo, N.Y.: Two police officers are hit by a vehicle and one other has his leg broken and pelvis shattered after protesters run him over

Champaign, Ill: Several police officers suffered minor injuries after allegedly being assaulted

Cincinnati, Ohio: Officer narrowly escaped death after a bullet struck his ballistic helmet

Columbia, S.C.: 15 law enforcement personnel injured during a Saturday riot

Chicago: 132 Chicago Police Department officers injured in violent riots in the city

Davenport, Iowa: A plainclothes police officer injured after an individual opened fire on his vehicle

Denver: Three city police officers sent to the hospital after a hit-and-run that also injured a bystander

Harrisburg, Penn.: Two police officers sent to the hospital during a violent protest on Saturday

Las Vegas: One cop put on life support after he was shot in the head during a violent protest on Monday; 12 additional officers injured during Friday’s rioting

Los Angeles: 27 LAPD officers injured during weekend rioting

Lynchburg, Va.: Several officers were shot at during protests but were not injured

Minnesota: Police officers shot at during a protest, and a precinct in the city was set on fire by protesters

Maryland: Protesters injured four county police officers and damaged several police cruisers

New York City: Dozens of NYPD officers injured during weekend rioting with one video showing an officer being struck by a car in a hit-and-run

Oak Lawn, Il.: Three officers injured during Monday’s protests

Oakland, Calif.: FBI officer Dave Patrick Underwood was shot and killed while providing security for a courthouse, and another officer was injured in the shooting

Philadelphia: City police reported several assaults on officers and multiple police cars set on fire

Pittsburgh, Penn.: Nine police officers hurt and sent to the hospital in clashes with protesters

Richmond, Va.: Two officers hurt during a protest after being hit with a baseball bat and a beer bottle

Rhode Island: Nine officers injured amongst rioting

Sacramento, Calif.: Seven police officers received minor injuries at the hands of violent protesters

Salt Lake City, Utah: 21 police officers required medical care after being injured by protesters, with one reporting that he was hit on the head with a baseball bat

San Antonio: Three officers were injured after being hit by bricks and bottles

San Jose, Calif.: Several officers sustained injuries during a May 29 protest and one was sent to the hospital

Santa Ana, Calif.: Two officers had to be taken to the hospital after being hit in the head by projectiles thrown at them by protesters

St. Louis, Mo.: 77-year-old David Dorn, a retired police officer, was shot dead by looters. His death was broadcast live on Facebook. Four other police officers were also shot in downtown St. Louis by violent protesters

Washington, D.C.: 11 Washington police officers injured during Sunday’s protests. One officer required surgery after being hit by a brick in the leg. Over 50 members of the Secret Service were also hurt during clashes, some sustaining injuries from Molotov cocktails



This is only til June 5th

So much peaceful protest

So much support for it.

Oh yeah.........like the retired police officer in St. Louis........shot dead trying to stop looting.......was a black guy.

Guess that Black life didn't matter to them.

Excuses after so much damage and so many injured and killed by it.........

Evil old white woman.......New York......just saying please don't tear up my store............so PEACEFUL

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Ignore the evidence from law enforcement of far more serious groups at play here and keep pretending it is just commie resurgence, after all the right NEEDS an enemy to unite against, and distract the nation. Jihadists are passe. What better than to reignite the red scare?

What better way is there to discredit the protests against police violence than to instigate violence against the police? There is none:

Trump made no mention of groups on the far right. Behind the scenes, however, DHS was acknowledging “media reports” indicating “that neo-Nazi, and other paramilitary far-right groups, are calling for terror attacks during the ongoing unrest throughout the United States.”​

​

“A series of Telegram accounts linked to a wider network of paramilitary far-right extremists have indicated that ongoing disturbances are spreading America’s police forces thin, making this the ideal time to strike with a strategic attack,” the agency reported in a round-up of intelligence reports coming in from around the country, published the following morning. “One account, with thousands of followers and links to several neo-Nazi terror groups like The Base and the Nordic Resistance Movement, called for attacks on critical infrastructure.” The agency noted that Twitter had recently removed a fake antifa account “created by a known white supremacist group” that had issued a call to violence.​

​

“Although the account only had a few hundred followers, it is an example of white supremacists seeking to inflame tensions in the United States,” DHS reported.​

Small wonder that a notoriously right-wing law-enforcement crowd, and a White House pandering to the outer fringes of the right up to and including QAnon, would joyously join ranks with neo-Nazi and White supremacist instigators while seeking to blame it all on Antifa, and, by implication, on the Democrats.

Yep, they know it, the hacked documents prove it, but the Trump administration's quest for re-election requires evidence be suppressed, and law enforcement investigate in all the wrong corners. Trump, without question, is the biggest beneficiary of the riots and arson, and the biggest victims are those genuinely concerned about reform and protesting, along with the communities of color, whose demands will be heard the less the more thugs manage to besmirch the protests. And now, the artificially fanned flames of "Commie anarchists coming after you and your livelihoods" hysteria seem to have cost two lives in Kenosha.

Shouldn't the lizard people and the illuminati be in there somewhere too, dude?

I mean, if you are going to create an entre parallel universe as a defense mechanism against accepting reality, why not go for it?

The truth of the matter is that BLM and ANTIFA are the ones responsible for the mayhem.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

A comprehensive list of police officers injured or killed in US riots

Here is a list of officers who have been attacked or killed during the ongoing US riots. by True North Wire June 4, 2020 As protests erupt across the US over the death of George Floyd, numerous law…

jonsnewplace.wordpress.com

Albany, N.Y.: Officer sent to the hospital after protester throws a brick at him

Atlanta: Officer Maximilian Brewer underwent surgery after a protester hit him with an ATV

Brockton, Mass.: One state trooper and a few local Brockton police officers suffered minor injuries

Buffalo, N.Y.: Two police officers are hit by a vehicle and one other has his leg broken and pelvis shattered after protesters run him over

Champaign, Ill: Several police officers suffered minor injuries after allegedly being assaulted

Cincinnati, Ohio: Officer narrowly escaped death after a bullet struck his ballistic helmet

Columbia, S.C.: 15 law enforcement personnel injured during a Saturday riot

Chicago: 132 Chicago Police Department officers injured in violent riots in the city

Davenport, Iowa: A plainclothes police officer injured after an individual opened fire on his vehicle

Denver: Three city police officers sent to the hospital after a hit-and-run that also injured a bystander

Harrisburg, Penn.: Two police officers sent to the hospital during a violent protest on Saturday

Las Vegas: One cop put on life support after he was shot in the head during a violent protest on Monday; 12 additional officers injured during Friday’s rioting

Los Angeles: 27 LAPD officers injured during weekend rioting

Lynchburg, Va.: Several officers were shot at during protests but were not injured

Minnesota: Police officers shot at during a protest, and a precinct in the city was set on fire by protesters

Maryland: Protesters injured four county police officers and damaged several police cruisers

New York City: Dozens of NYPD officers injured during weekend rioting with one video showing an officer being struck by a car in a hit-and-run

Oak Lawn, Il.: Three officers injured during Monday’s protests

Oakland, Calif.: FBI officer Dave Patrick Underwood was shot and killed while providing security for a courthouse, and another officer was injured in the shooting

Philadelphia: City police reported several assaults on officers and multiple police cars set on fire

Pittsburgh, Penn.: Nine police officers hurt and sent to the hospital in clashes with protesters

Richmond, Va.: Two officers hurt during a protest after being hit with a baseball bat and a beer bottle

Rhode Island: Nine officers injured amongst rioting

Sacramento, Calif.: Seven police officers received minor injuries at the hands of violent protesters

Salt Lake City, Utah: 21 police officers required medical care after being injured by protesters, with one reporting that he was hit on the head with a baseball bat

San Antonio: Three officers were injured after being hit by bricks and bottles

San Jose, Calif.: Several officers sustained injuries during a May 29 protest and one was sent to the hospital

Santa Ana, Calif.: Two officers had to be taken to the hospital after being hit in the head by projectiles thrown at them by protesters

St. Louis, Mo.: 77-year-old David Dorn, a retired police officer, was shot dead by looters. His death was broadcast live on Facebook. Four other police officers were also shot in downtown St. Louis by violent protesters

Washington, D.C.: 11 Washington police officers injured during Sunday’s protests. One officer required surgery after being hit by a brick in the leg. Over 50 members of the Secret Service were also hurt during clashes, some sustaining injuries from Molotov cocktails



This is only til June 5th

So much peaceful protest

So much support for it.

Oh yeah.........like the retired police officer in St. Louis........shot dead trying to stop looting.......was a black guy.

Guess that Black life didn't matter to them.

Excuses after so much damage and so many injured and killed by it.........

Evil old white woman.......New York......just saying please don't tear up my store............so PEACEFUL

We have been informed by more than one here that these are really white supremacists who have infiltrated this wonderful, wonderful social justice movement of ours. I gotta say, they sure have some absolutely INCREDIBLE make up artists, don't you think?

 

[Coyote]

Ignore the evidence from law enforcement of far more serious groups at play here and keep pretending it is just commie resurgence, after all the right NEEDS an enemy to unite against, and distract the nation. Jihadists are passe. What better than to reignite the red scare?

What better way is there to discredit the protests against police violence than to instigate violence against the police? There is none:

Trump made no mention of groups on the far right. Behind the scenes, however, DHS was acknowledging “media reports” indicating “that neo-Nazi, and other paramilitary far-right groups, are calling for terror attacks during the ongoing unrest throughout the United States.”​

​

“A series of Telegram accounts linked to a wider network of paramilitary far-right extremists have indicated that ongoing disturbances are spreading America’s police forces thin, making this the ideal time to strike with a strategic attack,” the agency reported in a round-up of intelligence reports coming in from around the country, published the following morning. “One account, with thousands of followers and links to several neo-Nazi terror groups like The Base and the Nordic Resistance Movement, called for attacks on critical infrastructure.” The agency noted that Twitter had recently removed a fake antifa account “created by a known white supremacist group” that had issued a call to violence.​

​

“Although the account only had a few hundred followers, it is an example of white supremacists seeking to inflame tensions in the United States,” DHS reported.​

Small wonder that a notoriously right-wing law-enforcement crowd, and a White House pandering to the outer fringes of the right up to and including QAnon, would joyously join ranks with neo-Nazi and White supremacist instigators while seeking to blame it all on Antifa, and, by implication, on the Democrats.

Yep, they know it, the hacked documents prove it, but the Trump administration's quest for re-election requires evidence be suppressed, and law enforcement investigate in all the wrong corners. Trump, without question, is the biggest beneficiary of the riots and arson, and the biggest victims are those genuinely concerned about reform and protesting, along with the communities of color, whose demands will be heard the less the more thugs manage to besmirch the protests. And now, the artificially fanned flames of "Commie anarchists coming after you and your livelihoods" hysteria seem to have cost two lives in Kenosha.

I thought that was a compelling article as well. Dont expect a substantive discussion though Unless you toe the line and blame it all on BLM and Antifa. Now it is just a bunch of monkeys flinging poo.

The scary thing, imo, is you have the conflation of a lot of elements, happening at one time.

Extremist elements with a stated desire to bring down the government or start a war.

Widespread disinformation on social media.

A president that actively feeds and spreads all this, and has corrupted every institution he has power over.

Intelligence showing brewing trouble being ignored in lieu of pursuing political goals.

A lot of angry people and widespread demonization.

High unemployment.

Crap economy.

Pandemic.

..and it started before Floyd’s death. Kind of echos what is happening now with Some of the peaceful demonstrations turning into riots.

Documents: White supremacists wanted rally to start civil war

A hidden camera captured members of a white supremacist group expressing hope that violence at a gun rights rally in Virginia this week could start a civil war, federal prosecutors said in a court filing Tuesday.

www.nbc12.com

Last month, a closed-circuit television camera and microphone installed by investigators in a Delaware home captured Mathews talking about the Virginia rally as a “boundless” opportunity.

“And the thing is you’ve got tons of guys who ... should be radicalized enough to know that all you gotta do is start making things go wrong and if Virginia can spiral out to (expletive) full blown civil war,” he said.
Mathews and fellow group member Brian Mark Lemley Jr., 33, of Elkton, Maryland, discussed the planning of violence at the Richmond rally, according to prosecutors. Lemley talked about using a thermal imaging scope affixed to his rifle to ambush unsuspecting civilians and police officers, prosecutors said.

3 self-proclaimed members of the far-right 'boogaloo' movement were arrested on domestic terrorism charges for trying to spark violence during protests

According to a June 2 filing, the men discussed "causing an incident to incite chaos and possibly a riot" in response to George Floyd's death.

www.businessinsider.com

Man who helped ignite George Floyd riots identified as white supremacist: Police

A masked umbrella-wielding man helped incite riots and looting in the immediate aftermath of George Floyd's death, police said.

abcnews.go.com

Three accused of conspiring to spark violence during protests in Las Vegas

Three Nevada men with ties to right-wing extremists have been arrested and charged with attempting to incite violence during protests in Las Vegas over the death of George Floyd.The Associated Pres…

thehill.com

White supremacists and other extremist groups are using protests and a pandemic to amplify their message

Extremists have latched onto the movements and used a playbook they’ve long relied on: establish legitimacy during a crisis, both in-person and online, to win new members.

www.inquirer.com

and, more to the immediate point, if Trump hadn’t gone jackboot on Portland, the protests, which had already died down, would likely to have continued to do so, that man would not have been beaten, the other would not have been shot in the head.

 

[iceberg]

Trump hasn't corrupted shit.

And bullshit on Trump enforcing the laws made people break them.

Again.

He hadn't gone "jackboot" anywhere else has he? They still tearin shit up, right?

You tend to make your bullshit assumptions reality but never allows others the Same leeway.

 

[iceberg]

And... If the RIOTERS were not rioting and breaking laws, Trump would not have had to do a thing. You never like holding your own beliefs accountable to the laws. You seem to relate to people who get really mad and should be allowed to break shit til you feel better or get what you want.

Yea. No.

 

[iceberg]

And... If the RIOTERS were not rioting and breaking laws, Trump would not have had to do a thing. You never like holding your own beliefs accountable to the laws. You seem to relate to people who get really mad and should be allowed to break shit til you feel better or get what you want.

Yea. No.

When done laughing simply tell me why the rioters get a free pass to tear shit up.

 

[Coyote]

And... If the RIOTERS were not rioting and breaking laws, Trump would not have had to do a thing. You never like holding your own beliefs accountable to the laws. You seem to relate to people who get really mad and should be allowed to break shit til you feel better or get what you want.

Yea. No.

When done laughing simply tell me why the rioters get a free pass to tear shit up.

I will keep it short, because frankly, you do little more now than follow me around whining about what I or do no do, or think, or say....

I can’t tell you “why rioters get a free pass...” because they don’t. Don‘t see any here saying they should. Just people tired of the way you lot constantly conflate peaceful demonstrators with rioters. Once you all start shooting, you think anyone’s going to care about that difference? Of course not. It is already happening.

Good day.

 

[iceberg]

And... If the RIOTERS were not rioting and breaking laws, Trump would not have had to do a thing. You never like holding your own beliefs accountable to the laws. You seem to relate to people who get really mad and should be allowed to break shit til you feel better or get what you want.

Yea. No.

When done laughing simply tell me why the rioters get a free pass to tear shit up.

I will keep it short, because frankly, you do little more now than follow me around whining about what I or do no do, or think, or say....

I can’t tell you “why rioters get a free pass...” because they don’t. Don‘t see any here saying they should. Just people tired of the way you lot constantly conflate peaceful demonstrators with rioters. Once you all start shooting, you think anyone’s going to care about that difference? Of course not. It is already happening.

Good day.

Then how come every time we say prosecute the rioters you ho off on Trump causing more damages but never say shit about those causing the damages?

Only a few blocks you say
Republican policies you say

Never hear you say arrest them as soon as they break the law. Just hear you excuse it with YEA BUT that eventually leads to Trump.

Quit ghosting when I press for specifics, I'll follow less.

 

[Olde Europe]

I thought that was a compelling article as well. Dont expect a substantive discussion though Unless you toe the line and blame it all on BLM and Antifa. Now it is just a bunch of monkeys flinging poo.

The scary thing, imo, is you have the conflation of a lot of elements, happening at one time.

Extremist elements with a stated desire to bring down the government or start a war.

Widespread disinformation on social media.

A president that actively feeds and spreads all this, and has corrupted every institution he has power over.

Intelligence showing brewing trouble being ignored in lieu of pursuing political goals.

A lot of angry people and widespread demonization.

High unemployment.

Crap economy.

Pandemic.

..and it started before Floyd’s death. Kind of echos what is happening now with Some of the peaceful demonstrations turning into riots.

That's a good list, and I think you didn't leave anything out that belongs there.

And yes, it started way before Floyd's death. Let me embed that list in a description outlining the dynamics. It started out with White (male) grievance from below, long brewing, but heightened in the aftermath of the Great Recession, when many found that they won't get back to the status to which they were accustomed, much less their children. That was met, in 2016, by White (male) grievance from above. Since entering the White House, Trump has done nothing other than enhance his own personal fortunes, wrecking U.S. institutions, laying waste to the international order, and further fanning the flames of White (male) grievance. That thing explodes in a time of heightened uncertainty, pandemic and BLM protests, Breitbart, QAnon and all the rest. The center is White (male) grievance, as reflected back by Trump, and submissive authoritarians breaking their last leashes in support of their Dear Leader, as he, and the nation, need saving from that revived "Commie" scare. That's also when shooting Those people dead becomes a plausible option for some.

 

[beagle9]

He wasn’t rioting.

He was violating a protest zone set-up by Federal Officers to keep these commie Anarchists from attacking a Fed Ct House for the 20th night in a row.. That's called "protest control".. There's your free speech limit when the CITY wouldn't protect Federal property.. Contact the MAYOR and COUNCIL and BLAME THEM for his injuries..

Mayor FINALLY AGREED.. Said that "protest" doesn't include arson fires when people are inside a building". Think I got that quote close enough...

Nobody here hitting on the peaceful protests. You're doing a protest about protests that are NOT an issue.. There HAVE been incidents even where the NYC police schedule to MARCH with BLM and radical thugs ATTACKED THAT MARCH.. Injured the NYPD Police Chief BADLY..

Think we all REALIZE what happened there.. DO YOU???

NYPD chief of department injured during protest on Brooklyn Bridge

NYPD officers were bloodied and battered by anti-cop activists on the Brooklyn Bridge on Wednesday — as Mayor de Blasio continued to exclude cops from his ambitious plan to stem the violence plagui…

nypost.com

Chief of Department Terence Monahan — the NYPD’s highest-ranking uniformed officer — suffered a broken finger during the clashes on the bridge, sources said.

Video shows Monahan climbing the fence to trade blows with an anti-cop activist during a wild brawl on the walkway between counter-demonstrators and uniformed bicycle cops.

An organizer of the march across the bridge, Tony Herbert, said the group — which included a contingent from the Sergeants Benevolent Association — was heading from Manhattan to Brooklyn when anti-cop activists “jumped off the walk onto the roadway” around 11 a.m.

“They said they did it peacefully. How do you do it peacefully when you have somebody swinging a cane?” Herbert said.

The NYPD said 37 people were arrested, but details weren’t immediately available.

Protesters REMAINING NOW in Portland/Seattle, LA have DROPPED George Floyd from their top 10 graffiti scrawls.. HIS name replaced with "looting is reparations", KILL Bezos, Torch Starbucks....

He wasn’t doing anything illegal. If you look at the video he was across the road. He wasn’t breaking any law. He was doing nothing to deserve getting shot in the head and permanently maimed. It amazes me that folks defend that. I hope they sue the hell out of the government.

I'd like to give the fed who shot the dumb ass a medal.........He could have stayed home.......they have been throwing piss and shit at them..........they have blinded officers............oh well.........taste the Karma............

Welcome to LIBERAL UTOPIA...........were the libs protect the criminals and hate the police...........

So glad I don't live in a place like that............try it here.......will not last long.

Welcome to Utopia where cons promote the shooting of innocent people (but only if they are the wrong demographic or ideology or religion).

Why do you lie like this? The ONLY people they are advocating shooting are violent rioters. Other than the occasional loon, that we all denounce, there is only one adjective being used, VIOLENT RIOTERS.

You, on the other hand, never denounce the black racists, like im2, and asslips, and especially paul essien who have advocated the murder of white children.

What the hell.....

The first thing: Donovan Labelle was not a violent rioter. He got shot. In the head. And folks here support stuff like that.

Second thing - is there some kind of score card where I must go around and denounce those you consider racists or converse on those threads just to denounce them? If so, I'm. to playing that game. I don't keep score, but if you wish to, it's on you and nothing to do with this topic since...in case you didn't NOTICE...a lot of these rioters are white....

I support ending this BS by all means necessary including lethal force.............I would declare martial law.......and under the insurection act I would deploy national guard and U.S. military to Portland and other cities to end this............the E.O. would state to end it be all necessary means including the authorization to shoot looters..........

I guarantee you it would be over quick.

So...that's what they should have done when radicals occupied the Malheur Wildlife Refuge right?
And I guarantee you, your plan would violate constitutional rights.

Did they destroy anything? Terrorize the elk or something? Demand an end to capitalism? We KNOW what their beef was.. CLEARLY stated.. Yet you AVOID discussing the purpose or demands of THESE WIDESPREAD ORGANIZED rioters...

I know one thing, and that is that they have successfully made a mockery of law and order in this country, but they didn't do it without help. The governor's and mayor's who refused to stop the chaos as soon as it got out of hand, definitely should be recalled and fired with extreme prejudice.

Any other official with the capacity on a local level to act, and yet didn't, uhh is guilty of aiding and abetting also.

The messages in what these people are up to must stay hidden, because they don't want their agenda targeted for destruction in sight of the American voter's in the future. Here they are wearing their agendas on their sleeves every night, and no one can figure it out ??? As creepy uncle joe once said - come onnnnn mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Oh God. Not another conspiracy theory tieing all these disparate groups together. I cant keep up with all these conspiracies. Let's see...what is tying anarchists, white nationalists, antifa, and garden variety opportunistic thugs together into one agenda?

Ok...I'll play. What is one theory after all? Who keeps ratcheting up the violence with stupid rhetoric and threats, a political platform on law order (which requires lawlessness and disorder in order shine) and is now the central plank of re election? Who threatens Dem run cities with interference only? Who sent in unprepared and untrained feds to ESCALATE the situation despite being warned not to?

Now, let's hear your next generic anti-left conspiracy theory. My prediction is it will, as it has for the last almost 4 years, hang on the Dems not accepting the election.

You embarass yourself constantly, and without shame in your twisting of the facts. Unbelievable, and a little secret, it won't save the Demoncrat party come November. There's just to much water under the bridge, and the bridge ain't gonna hold.

One day you'll get off that island, but probably not is my bet after reading your post.

 

[beagle9]

I thought that was a compelling article as well. Dont expect a substantive discussion though Unless you toe the line and blame it all on BLM and Antifa. Now it is just a bunch of monkeys flinging poo.

The scary thing, imo, is you have the conflation of a lot of elements, happening at one time.

Extremist elements with a stated desire to bring down the government or start a war.

Widespread disinformation on social media.

A president that actively feeds and spreads all this, and has corrupted every institution he has power over.

Intelligence showing brewing trouble being ignored in lieu of pursuing political goals.

A lot of angry people and widespread demonization.

High unemployment.

Crap economy.

Pandemic.

..and it started before Floyd’s death. Kind of echos what is happening now with Some of the peaceful demonstrations turning into riots.

That's a good list, and I think you didn't leave anything out that belongs there.

And yes, it started way before Floyd's death. Let me embed that list in a description outlining the dynamics. It started out with White (male) grievance from below, long brewing, but heightened in the aftermath of the Great Recession, when many found that they won't get back to the status to which they were accustomed, much less their children. That was met, in 2016, by White (male) grievance from above. Since entering the White House, Trump has done nothing other than enhance his own personal fortunes, wrecking U.S. institutions, laying waste to the international order, and further fanning the flames of White (male) grievance. That thing explodes in a time of heightened uncertainty, pandemic and BLM protests, Breitbart, QAnon and all the rest. The center is White (male) grievance, as reflected back by Trump, and submissive authoritarians breaking their last leashes in support of their Dear Leader, as he, and the nation, need saving from that revived "Commie" scare. That's also when shooting Those people dead becomes a plausible option for some.

Listen you

The messages in what these people are up to must stay hidden, because they don't want their agenda targeted for destruction in sight of the American voter's in the future. Here they are wearing their agendas on their sleeves every night, and no one can figure it out ??? As creepy uncle joe once said - come onnnnn mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

And I've constantly ASKED people who are supporting the city core rot and think property destruction is not violence -- How we address "their agenda'".. Got NO answers so far... So the anarchy really is just anarchy over EVERYTHING institutionalized.. They don't like anything about America, have no alternative and muzzle dissent like the fascists that they are...

Those who do not support free enterprise to begin with have no problem seeing people's businesses looted and burned. There is a subtle prejudice on the left that running a business makes somebody THE MAN, and the more extreme the leftist, the more they justify any action that hurts the man.

Even when small businesses suffer, they justify the ruination of the businesses because they see the very operation of these businesses as making a person guilty to begin with. They side with the arsonists and looters because they do not even recognize that business owners are humans deserving rights to begin with.

One "right" is magnified - the right to burn, the right to steal and the right to hurt. The other right is diminished - the right to operate a business, the right to earn a living and the right to conduct one's life unmolested.

Absolutely correct.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

I long ago learned to believe people when they say they will hurt you. It seems like even here on USMB bigmouths talk about how Democrats and leftists are all “Communists,” and that Communists should all be hung. According to them, we are all “looters,” “racists,“ “fascists”! Or we support them.

It’s just talk from Internet a**holes of course, but millions actually believe there is a revolution brewing in the streets that must be put down now. In fact, there are white groups looking to provoke race war. Blacks know they can only lose in a real race war. In U.S. conditions where partisan differences are extreme, the right is armed to the teeth and the police overwhelmingly pro-Trump, the situation is dangerous.

All the righties feed into it with their hysteria. Of course in places and at times, especially after police shootings, there are riots, just as there are always criminals, and would be looters, looking to take advantage of a bad situation. So what?

But no how and no way are they a genuine threat that is leading to civil war. That ain’t a revolution. In scope they are nothing like the riots of the 1960s. Those on the right who urge extra-legal vigilantism now are playing with fire.

This OP started discussing an incident where half the crowd was actually trying (and failing) to protect a single victim of stupid violence, and now we are talking about “civil war.” Everyone is just itching to take guns out and “stand their ground” .... even outside of their own neighborhood. That way lies madness. It is not “self defense” but political hysteria.

Armed vigilantes and civil war is what the right threatens and some try to organize these days. Provocateurs can escalate situations dramatically.

So take a deep breadth, step back, and let the authorities deal with things if they get out of hand. If you ever do need to join a homeowners defense group, try to make sure it’s integrated and be sure everybody knows each other, and stay on your own goddam street. No boogeyman is coming to get you and your family. Don’t go hunting “the enemy.”

 

[eagle1462010]

I long ago learned to believe people when they say they will hurt you. It seems like even here on USMB bigmouths talk about how Democrats and leftists are all “Communists,” and that Communists should all be hung. According to them, we are all “looters,” “racists,“ “fascists”! Or we support them.

Shoe fits..........wear it..........

They behave like animals...........get called animals.........always in DNC run shitholes.

 

[beagle9]

I long ago learned to believe people when they say they will hurt you. It seems like even here on USMB bigmouths talk about how Democrats and leftists are all “Communists,” and that Communists should all be hung. According to them, we are all “looters,” “racists,“ “fascists”! Or we support them.

It’s just talk from Internet a**holes of course, but millions actually believe there is a revolution brewing in the streets that must be put down now. In fact, there are white groups looking to provoke race war. Blacks know they can only lose in a real race war. In U.S. conditions where partisan differences are extreme, the right is armed to the teeth and the police overwhelmingly pro-Trump, the situation is dangerous.

All the righties feed into it with their hysteria. Of course in places and at times, especially after police shootings, there are riots, just as there are always criminals, and would be looters, looking to take advantage of a bad situation. So what?

But no how and no way are they a genuine threat that is leading to civil war. That ain’t a revolution. In scope they are nothing like the riots of the 1960s. Those on the right who urge extra-legal vigilantism now are playing with fire.

This OP started discussing an incident where half the crowd was actually trying (and failing) to protect a single victim of stupid violence, and now we are talking about “civil war.” Everyone is just itching to take guns out and “stand their ground” .... even outside of their own neighborhood. That way lies madness. It is not “self defense” but political hysteria.

Armed vigilantes and civil war is what the right threatens and some try to organize these days. Provocateurs can escalate situations dramatically.

So take a deep breadth, step back, and let the authorities deal with things if they get out of hand. If you ever do need to join a homeowners defense group, try to make sure it’s integrated and be sure everybody knows each other, and stay on your own goddam street. No boogeyman is coming to get you and your family. Don’t go hunting “the enemy.”

Alot of meaningless words here, and the worst part is your ignoring of the truth in it all. Your attempt at painting the defenders as the offenders was picked up on immediately. Just like you all have pulled on Trump and his family trying to paint them as bullies and offenders, when actually they are defenders of their rights and families just as it should be when attacked. To not defend yours or your families honor is cowardess. Trump is no coward as is proven, and he will defend himself when attacked.

The left got very comfortable with the conservatives not defending themselves when constantly attacked, and then along comes Trump to make ill manored buttholes out of them all. They haven't quit crying yet... LOL.