Pope Francis effectively admits it: He really, really hates Americans

[The Purge]

The Purge

What do you like to say?

I say this Pope is a fucking socialist eating around the edges of communism and instead of tending his whole flock, tends on the very people that will take from you and me but return nothing...even a thank you. He never heard of self reliance or knows a damn thing about work ethics....he pretty much disgusts me...but then again I'm agnostic and look at him with what most Catholics refuse to look at him with....

I fear you don't know the words "to fuck" and "agnostics". And the social teaching of the church follows not the communistic or capitalistic ideology. And what for heavens sake is "work ethics". If this is "Arbeit muss als gottgewollter Lebenszweck betrachtet werden, sie muss so gut wie möglich verrichtet werden und Arbeit muss als Pflicht gelten, die man erledigt, weil sie erledigt werden muss" (- I guess you are able to make the work to translate this on your own -) then this "work ethics" looks crooked, because work is not a god and not the only purpose of life. What about "ora et labora [et lege]"? Together with the celebrations all over the year this shows how important it is to work continually - but this makes "work" not to a god. Work has to help oneself and others and is not a purpose on its own.

Apparently WORK is a foreign language to you and the pope!

 

[zaangalewa]

The Purge

What do you like to say?

I say this Pope is a fucking socialist eating around the edges of communism and instead of tending his whole flock, tends on the very people that will take from you and me but return nothing...even a thank you. He never heard of self reliance or knows a damn thing about work ethics....he pretty much disgusts me...but then again I'm agnostic and look at him with what most Catholics refuse to look at him with....

I fear you don't know the words "to fuck" and "agnostics". And the social teaching of the church follows not the communistic or capitalistic ideology. And what for heavens sake is "work ethics". If this is "Arbeit muss als gottgewollter Lebenszweck betrachtet werden, sie muss so gut wie möglich verrichtet werden und Arbeit muss als Pflicht gelten, die man erledigt, weil sie erledigt werden muss" (- I guess you are able to make the work to translate this on your own -) then this "work ethics" looks crooked, because work is not a god and not the only purpose of life. What about "ora et labora [et lege]"? Together with the celebrations all over the year this shows how important it is to work continually - but this makes "work" not to a god. Work has to help oneself and others and is not a purpose on its own.

Apparently WORK is a foreign language to you and the pope!

The Benedictinian rule "Ora et labora [et lege]" (pray and work [and read (understand)]) is the sentence, which made the occident - the western world - to the leading culture of the world. What doesn't mean someone has to make "work" to an empty extremistic phrase. "To work" means to be creative, constructive and conservative for all and every life. In some cases it would be much more better some people would learn to enjoy their lifes and would not try to hunt like crazy from one point of excess to the next point of excess - or from one partnership to the next - without to think and to feel any longer.

And you should do something against your hate on Catholics. This would be worth a lot of work on and for your own soul, because your hate - which you express in empty defamatory phrases - will destroy you yourself in the end.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Honestly, I don't know how anyone can still be Catholic after what we now know about how Catholic leaders dealt with their pedophile priests.

As for Pope Francis, I still remember his amazingly hypocritical attacks on Trump in 2016 when Trump advocated building a wall on our southern border. Perhaps Francis was hoping that few people know that the Vatican is surrounded by a high wall with guards at every entry point.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:



Pope Francis told a reporter on Wednesday it was an "honor" to be the subject of attacks from American religious conservatives and their Catholic allies.



The pope was speaking with French journalist Nicholas Seneze, the author of "How America Wants to Change Popes," when he responded to his American critics while heading to Mozambique for a three-day tour of sub-Saharan Africa.



His stances on climate change, immigration, homosexuality and theology have garnered heavy criticism from politicians and conservative Catholics and commentators. Some critics have demanded his resignation.
“It’s an honor that the Americans attack me,” the pontiff told Seneze.



Interesting that he characterized his critics as "the Americans" instead of 'the conservatives.' After all, the U.S. Church (and nearly all U.S. religious denominations) actually do have plenty of leftists -- they're actually dominated by them.



Which goes to show just how coldly he views the USA with all its famous freedoms, calling to mind that like the late Venezuelan socialist dictator Hugo Chavez, he's never spent appreciable time in the U.S. He knows nothing of democracy, other than the Peronist balcony-descamisados kind practiced in Argentina with its famous Argentine economic consequences. The U.S. practice of freely speaking one's mind and questioning authority that's failing unsettles him. He gets mad. If he's the good guy, then someone who criticizes him is the devil, which of course is why it's an 'honor.' The U.S. and all its freedom is a bad place, see, but he'd nevertheless like all the world's illegal migrants he claims to champion to somehow be here.






(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

If Pope Francis really, really hates Americans, I am POSITIVE that make him a DemonRAT!!

who ?

 

[zaangalewa]

Honestly, I don't know how anyone can still be Catholic after what we now know about how Catholic leaders dealt with their pedophile priests.

Aha.

As for Pope Francis, I still remember his amazingly hypocritical attacks on Trump in 2016 when Trump advocated building a wall on our southern border.

He said the word needs not new walls. And he was absolutelly right to say so. The wall breaking nation USA begins ot build new walls - that's absurde. It's by the way also absurde that a nation with only two neighbors needs walls.

Perhaps Francis was hoping that few people know that the Vatican is surrounded by a high wall with guards at every entry point.

Sure has the Vatican walls - it's a building with some places and a big garden in the middle of Rome. In 2011 the Vatican had 572 citizens and 221 inhabitants, who were not citizens of the Vatican - that's about 40% foreigners. And every year some 7,500 tourists per inhabitant overstep the borders of the Vatican without big problems for anyone.

 

[james bond]

And you should do something against your hate on Catholics. This would be worth a lot of work on and for your own soul, because your hate - which you express in empty defamatory phrases - will destroy you yourself in the end.

No hate on Catholics except their dogma has a pope. If Pope Peter was actually a pope, then look at how differently he looked at the world vs Pope Francis. He believed God created Adam and Eve like Jesus. He believed homosexuality is a sin. He would call God the Father the Holy Father. How can the truth be changed in such short period of time?

 

[Taz]

So you're saying that you're an indirect victim, so not actually a victim, you just think you are. Got it.

I am on the death list of Nazis in Germany. And the US-American ambassador Richard Grenell supports in Germany and all over Europe Nazi movements. That's the sad reality of the year 5779 AE ("Adam and Eve"), 2019 AD ("Anno Domini") or 74 AH ("after the holocaust" or "after Hiroshima").

Nevertheless Nazia will never win. Some years ago I'd threatened sometimes someone to make a spaghetti out of him in a black hole after my death. Today I would say: Should you ever fly to a black hole and you'll see a spaghetti manufactory in the orbit there, then it's perhaps better for you to turn as long as possible.

not nice Tazie-------Zangie has his thing----whatevah it is

His thing is to bring up Nazis every chance he gets, then cries about being not a holocaust victim but some kind of secondary victim. I think he actually knew Hitler.

You are without any doubt one of this Nazis, who calls also Jews for example "Zio-Nazis". You tell practically everyone I murdered my own people, while only you have the right to speak for the victims the holocaust. You tell everyone you are a friend of the Israel. With friends like you Jews are lost. US-Americans too, by the way. And you are on your own lost too. You underestimate the wrong way of your materialstic philosophy and your stupid pseudo-darwinistic winner attitude. You will win youselve, your country and the world to death. In the end you will be alone on a sad liveless and loveless planet. And this end is now, isn't it? You just simple do not understand all this terriblke ghosts around you. That's why you attack everyone and everything - until the world will finally do, what's in your brain: nothing.

Isn't it a little early in the day to be drinking?

 

[Taz]

The Pope hates being sober too.

I am fascinated-----does Francis really have a thing with DA BOTTLE?

He looks drunk all the time. The way he talks, walks and his drooping face and eyes, with a sheepish grin who looks like he heeds a nap, or is going to fall over.

Nazi propaganda. Endless loop. "Brainwash".

Are you and the Drunk Pope drinking buddies?

 

[22lcidw]

And you should do something against your hate on Catholics. This would be worth a lot of work on and for your own soul, because your hate - which you express in empty defamatory phrases - will destroy you yourself in the end.

No hate on Catholics except their dogma has a pope. If Pope Peter was actually a pope, then look at how differently he looked at the world vs Pope Francis. He believed God created Adam and Eve like Jesus. He believed homosexuality is a sin. He would call God the Father the Holy Father. How can the truth be changed in such short period of time?

Many Popes are conservative. Their dioceses around the world may not be as so. The Western world dioceses are a bit more liberal then the poorer areas. This Pope came from one of those poorer areas but he seems more like a liberal globalist modern day new age guru who would wear patches of the corporate donors on his religious garb while denouncing the same.

 

[irosie91]

IMHO----Francis got lots of gall criticizing the USA need for a secure border----AND his policy of supporting lots of muslim migration into Italy is going to blow up in
his papal face

 

[zaangalewa]

And you should do something against your hate on Catholics. This would be worth a lot of work on and for your own soul, because your hate - which you express in empty defamatory phrases - will destroy you yourself in the end.

No hate on Catholics except their dogma has a pope.

I fear everyone in the USA says he not hates Catholics. But since 1789 only less than 3 years (or 1.3%) was a Catholic president of the USA.

If Pope Peter was actually a pope,

Peter was the head of the church, what you know exactly when you study the first council in Jerusalem.

then look at how differently he looked at the world vs Pope Francis.

Peter was a fisher. Francis was a chemical engineer. Later he studied what I could call humanism/anthropology/psychology. Then he studied theology. He became a monk, a priest, a bishop and he became a cardinal without any chance to become the pope - and then he became pope Francis.

He believed God created Adam and Eve like Jesus.

Did he? He believed Jesus was born from Mary, as far as I know. And he heard together with others a direct message from god about Jesus "... this is my beloved son ...".

He believed homosexuality is a sin.

Homosexuality is a very modern expression. No idea what you try to say with this phrase in a wrong context.

He would call God the Father the Holy Father. How can the truth be changed in such short period of time?

The perception and cognition of truth and truth itselve are different things. When people for example organize a way, how all people are able to live together in a maximum of love and rationality, then this ways are not always the same ways - but it will need always people who organize this ways. In the end: "All ways lead to Rome." And god is always new too. Human beings are not allknowing - we learn. All mankind learns. That's why the logic of time and all traditions are very important too.

 

[zaangalewa]

The Pope hates being sober too.

I am fascinated-----does Francis really have a thing with DA BOTTLE?

He looks drunk all the time. The way he talks, walks and his drooping face and eyes, with a sheepish grin who looks like he heeds a nap, or is going to fall over.

Nazi propaganda. Endless loop. "Brainwash".

Are you and the Drunk Pope drinking buddies?

The Pope hates being sober too.

I am fascinated-----does Francis really have a thing with DA BOTTLE?

He looks drunk all the time. The way he talks, walks and his drooping face and eyes, with a sheepish grin who looks like he heeds a nap, or is going to fall over.

Nazi propaganda. Endless loop. "Brainwash".

Are you and the Drunk Pope drinking buddies?

You are more than only stupid on no reason to have to be this. Why?

 

[zaangalewa]

And you should do something against your hate on Catholics. This would be worth a lot of work on and for your own soul, because your hate - which you express in empty defamatory phrases - will destroy you yourself in the end.

No hate on Catholics except their dogma has a pope. If Pope Peter was actually a pope, then look at how differently he looked at the world vs Pope Francis. He believed God created Adam and Eve like Jesus. He believed homosexuality is a sin. He would call God the Father the Holy Father. How can the truth be changed in such short period of time?

Many Popes are conservative.

In sense of "preserving" not in sense of philistines.

Their dioceses around the world may not be as so. The Western world dioceses are a bit more liberal then the poorer areas.

You are the expert for Catholics. I am only a Catholic and I never heard anything about such things.

This Pope came from one of those poorer areas but he seems more like a liberal globalist modern day new age guru who would wear patches of the corporate donors on his religious garb while denouncing the same.

I immediatelly understood Pope Francis, since the very first moment he came from Argentinia, in everything what he said and did. Typical Catholic. I would say who not understands and not respects Pope Francis not understands the Holy Catholic Church.

 

[james bond]

And you should do something against your hate on Catholics. This would be worth a lot of work on and for your own soul, because your hate - which you express in empty defamatory phrases - will destroy you yourself in the end.

No hate on Catholics except their dogma has a pope.

I fear everyone in the USA says he not hates Catholics. But since 1789 only less than 3 years (or 1.3%) was a Catholic president of the USA.

If Pope Peter was actually a pope,

Peter was the head of the church, what you know exactly when you study the first council in Jerusalem.

then look at how differently he looked at the world vs Pope Francis.

Peter was a fisher. Francis was a chemical engineer. Later he studied what I could call humanism/anthropology/psychology. Then he studied theology. He became a monk, a priest, a bishop and he became a cardinal without any chance to become the pope - and then he became pope Francis.

He believed God created Adam and Eve like Jesus.

Did he? He believed Jesus was born from Mary, as far as I know. And he heard together with others a direct message from god about Jesus "... this is my beloved son ...".

He believed homosexuality is a sin.

Homosexuality is a very modern expression. No idea what you try to say with this phrase in a wrong context.

He would call God the Father the Holy Father. How can the truth be changed in such short period of time?

The perception and cognition of truth and truth itselve are different things. When people for example organize a way, how all people are able to live together in a maximum of love and rationality, then this ways are not always the same ways - but it will need always people who organize this ways. In the end: "All ways lead to Rome." And god is always new too. Human beings are not allknowing - we learn. All mankind learns. That's why the logic of time and all traditions are very important too.

Most of what you reply is not Catholic dogma. If the voters in the USA do not trust Catholics, then it could be because of their dogma imho. People who pray to statues. Believe in perpetual virginity. Drink and eat the actual blood and body of Jesus. Those are some of the really extreme beliefs. Personally, calling the pope, the Holy Father, really bugs me. The big bang and evolution is just Francis' opinion, but it shows lack of belief in the Bible and Genesis. Who can trust someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but goes by religious dogma?

Jesus believed God created Adam and Eve is what I meant. Peter believed the same. I'm not so sure about Francis. Does he believe we came from monkeys?

LOL, homosexuality has been around since ancient times. God has said homosexuality is a sin because they disobey and rebel against God. Francis hasn't exactly backed this up.

 

[JohnPrewett]

Roman Catholicism is worthy to be despised.

 

[zaangalewa]

And you should do something against your hate on Catholics. This would be worth a lot of work on and for your own soul, because your hate - which you express in empty defamatory phrases - will destroy you yourself in the end.

No hate on Catholics except their dogma has a pope.

I fear everyone in the USA says he not hates Catholics. But since 1789 only less than 3 years (or 1.3%) was a Catholic president of the USA.

If Pope Peter was actually a pope,

Peter was the head of the church, what you know exactly when you study the first council in Jerusalem.

then look at how differently he looked at the world vs Pope Francis.

Peter was a fisher. Francis was a chemical engineer. Later he studied what I could call humanism/anthropology/psychology. Then he studied theology. He became a monk, a priest, a bishop and he became a cardinal without any chance to become the pope - and then he became pope Francis.

He believed God created Adam and Eve like Jesus.

Did he? He believed Jesus was born from Mary, as far as I know. And he heard together with others a direct message from god about Jesus "... this is my beloved son ...".

He believed homosexuality is a sin.

Homosexuality is a very modern expression. No idea what you try to say with this phrase in a wrong context.

He would call God the Father the Holy Father. How can the truth be changed in such short period of time?

The perception and cognition of truth and truth itselve are different things. When people for example organize a way, how all people are able to live together in a maximum of love and rationality, then this ways are not always the same ways - but it will need always people who organize this ways. In the end: "All ways lead to Rome." And god is always new too. Human beings are not allknowing - we learn. All mankind learns. That's why the logic of time and all traditions are very important too.

Most of what you reply is not Catholic dogma.

What a nonsense. "I and my three women are good Catholics." So which teaching of the Holy Catholic church do I unintentionally ignore in your eyes?

If the voters in the USA do not trust Catholics, then it could be because of their dogma imho.

Sure. I fear the most US-Americans of your color think: The only good Catholic I ever saw was dead.

People who pray to statues.

?

Believe in perpetual virginity.

??

Drink and eat the actual blood and body of Jesus.

???

Those are some of the really extreme beliefs.

Could be more worse. We could believe you are an idiot.

Personally, calling the pope, the Holy Father, really bugs me.

You don't do it, so what bugs you, Mr. impertinence?

The big bang and evolution is just Francis' opinion,

Got it. God is allknowing but you know everything better.

but it shows lack of belief in the Bible and Genesis

What a nonsense.

Who can trust someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but goes by religious dogma?

What a luck that you trust in yourselve.

Jesus believed God created Adam and Eve is what I meant.

Sure he did. He was a Jew.

Peter believed the same. I'm not so sure about Francis.

You are sure about Francis.

Does he believe we came from monkeys?

I guess he knows that he and the monkey Mike have a common ancestor. I guess he also knows that a flower or a tree and he have a common acestor. All living creatures on planet Earth have a common ancestor with each other living creature. And perhaps he knows too that the biological information of his genes is 52% common with the genetical information of a banana. So you can see. indeed we came from bananas - or from cherries - apples. ... Ah apple. Did not happen something with a fruit in paradise? And did not go a complete mankind lost because of this and had to leave the paradise?

LOL, homosexuality has been around since ancient times.

The word "Homosexualität" was created from Karl Maria Kertbeny (=Karl Maria Benkert) in 1868 in Vienna.

God has said homosexuality is a sin

Sorry: But homosexuality is not a sin. And I do not discuss more about this theme with you.

because they disobey and rebel against God. Francis hasn't exactly backed this up.

I would say to discuss about sexual behavior with US-Americans is not possible. Such discussions are always mad.

 

[james bond]

And you should do something against your hate on Catholics. This would be worth a lot of work on and for your own soul, because your hate - which you express in empty defamatory phrases - will destroy you yourself in the end.

No hate on Catholics except their dogma has a pope.

I fear everyone in the USA says he not hates Catholics. But since 1789 only less than 3 years (or 1.3%) was a Catholic president of the USA.

If Pope Peter was actually a pope,

Peter was the head of the church, what you know exactly when you study the first council in Jerusalem.

then look at how differently he looked at the world vs Pope Francis.

Peter was a fisher. Francis was a chemical engineer. Later he studied what I could call humanism/anthropology/psychology. Then he studied theology. He became a monk, a priest, a bishop and he became a cardinal without any chance to become the pope - and then he became pope Francis.

He believed God created Adam and Eve like Jesus.

Did he? He believed Jesus was born from Mary, as far as I know. And he heard together with others a direct message from god about Jesus "... this is my beloved son ...".

He believed homosexuality is a sin.

Homosexuality is a very modern expression. No idea what you try to say with this phrase in a wrong context.

He would call God the Father the Holy Father. How can the truth be changed in such short period of time?

The perception and cognition of truth and truth itselve are different things. When people for example organize a way, how all people are able to live together in a maximum of love and rationality, then this ways are not always the same ways - but it will need always people who organize this ways. In the end: "All ways lead to Rome." And god is always new too. Human beings are not allknowing - we learn. All mankind learns. That's why the logic of time and all traditions are very important too.

Most of what you reply is not Catholic dogma.

What a nonsense. "I and my three women are good Catholics." So which teaching of the Holy Catholic church do I unintentionally ignore in your eyes?

If the voters in the USA do not trust Catholics, then it could be because of their dogma imho.

Sure. I fear the most US-Americans of your color think: The only good Catholic I ever saw was dead.

People who pray to statues.

?

Believe in perpetual virginity.

??

Drink and eat the actual blood and body of Jesus.

???

Those are some of the really extreme beliefs.

Could be more worse. We could believe you are an idiot.

Personally, calling the pope, the Holy Father, really bugs me.

You don't do it, so what bugs you, Mr. impertinence?

The big bang and evolution is just Francis' opinion,

Got it. God is allknowing but you know everything better.

but it shows lack of belief in the Bible and Genesis

What a nonsense.

Who can trust someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but goes by religious dogma?

What a luck that you trust in yourselve.

Jesus believed God created Adam and Eve is what I meant.

Sure he did. He was a Jew.

Peter believed the same. I'm not so sure about Francis.

You are sure about Francis.

Does he believe we came from monkeys?

I guess he knows that he and the monkey Mike have a common ancestor. I guess he also knows that a flower or a tree and he have a common acestor. All living creatures on planet Earth have a common ancestor with each other living creature. And perhaps he knows too that the biological information of his genes is 52% common with the genetical information of a banana. So you can see. indeed we came from bananas - or from cherries - apples. ... Ah apple. Did not happen something with a fruit in paradise? And did not go a complete mankind lost because of this and had to leave the paradise?

LOL, homosexuality has been around since ancient times.

The word "Homosexualität" was created from Karl Maria Kertbeny (=Karl Maria Benkert) in 1868 in Vienna.

God has said homosexuality is a sin

Sorry: But homosexuality is not a sin. And I do not discuss more about this theme with you.

because they disobey and rebel against God. Francis hasn't exactly backed this up.

I would say to discuss about sexual behavior with US-Americans is not possible. Such discussions are always mad.

Too much ignorance here to reply just like in your previous post.

Here is what Catholics believe -- Dogmas of the Catholic Church - Catholic Apologetics. Much of which diverges from the Bible. (Purgatory is there. Limbo has been done away with by Pope Benedict and unbaptized infants go the heaven.)

 

[zaangalewa]

And you should do something against your hate on Catholics. This would be worth a lot of work on and for your own soul, because your hate - which you express in empty defamatory phrases - will destroy you yourself in the end.

No hate on Catholics except their dogma has a pope.

I fear everyone in the USA says he not hates Catholics. But since 1789 only less than 3 years (or 1.3%) was a Catholic president of the USA.

If Pope Peter was actually a pope,

Peter was the head of the church, what you know exactly when you study the first council in Jerusalem.

then look at how differently he looked at the world vs Pope Francis.

Peter was a fisher. Francis was a chemical engineer. Later he studied what I could call humanism/anthropology/psychology. Then he studied theology. He became a monk, a priest, a bishop and he became a cardinal without any chance to become the pope - and then he became pope Francis.

He believed God created Adam and Eve like Jesus.

Did he? He believed Jesus was born from Mary, as far as I know. And he heard together with others a direct message from god about Jesus "... this is my beloved son ...".

He believed homosexuality is a sin.

Homosexuality is a very modern expression. No idea what you try to say with this phrase in a wrong context.

He would call God the Father the Holy Father. How can the truth be changed in such short period of time?

The perception and cognition of truth and truth itselve are different things. When people for example organize a way, how all people are able to live together in a maximum of love and rationality, then this ways are not always the same ways - but it will need always people who organize this ways. In the end: "All ways lead to Rome." And god is always new too. Human beings are not allknowing - we learn. All mankind learns. That's why the logic of time and all traditions are very important too.

Most of what you reply is not Catholic dogma.

What a nonsense. "I and my three women are good Catholics." So which teaching of the Holy Catholic church do I unintentionally ignore in your eyes?

If the voters in the USA do not trust Catholics, then it could be because of their dogma imho.

Sure. I fear the most US-Americans of your color think: The only good Catholic I ever saw was dead.

People who pray to statues.

?

Believe in perpetual virginity.

??

Drink and eat the actual blood and body of Jesus.

???

Those are some of the really extreme beliefs.

Could be more worse. We could believe you are an idiot.

Personally, calling the pope, the Holy Father, really bugs me.

You don't do it, so what bugs you, Mr. impertinence?

The big bang and evolution is just Francis' opinion,

Got it. God is allknowing but you know everything better.

but it shows lack of belief in the Bible and Genesis

What a nonsense.

Who can trust someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but goes by religious dogma?

What a luck that you trust in yourselve.

Jesus believed God created Adam and Eve is what I meant.

Sure he did. He was a Jew.

Peter believed the same. I'm not so sure about Francis.

You are sure about Francis.

Does he believe we came from monkeys?

I guess he knows that he and the monkey Mike have a common ancestor. I guess he also knows that a flower or a tree and he have a common acestor. All living creatures on planet Earth have a common ancestor with each other living creature. And perhaps he knows too that the biological information of his genes is 52% common with the genetical information of a banana. So you can see. indeed we came from bananas - or from cherries - apples. ... Ah apple. Did not happen something with a fruit in paradise? And did not go a complete mankind lost because of this and had to leave the paradise?

LOL, homosexuality has been around since ancient times.

The word "Homosexualität" was created from Karl Maria Kertbeny (=Karl Maria Benkert) in 1868 in Vienna.

God has said homosexuality is a sin

Sorry: But homosexuality is not a sin. And I do not discuss more about this theme with you.

because they disobey and rebel against God. Francis hasn't exactly backed this up.

I would say to discuss about sexual behavior with US-Americans is not possible. Such discussions are always mad.

Too much ignorance here to reply just like in your previous post.

I never ignore anything intentionally.

Here is what Catholics believe -- Dogmas of the Catholic Church - Catholic Apologetics. Much of which diverges from the Bible. (Purgatory is there. Limbo has been done away with by Pope Benedict and unbaptized infants go the heaven.)

Shortest answer: Athanasian creed

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance [Essence] of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance [Essence] of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. One altogether; not by confusion of Substance [Essence]; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.



Jesus bleibet meine Freude
Meines Herzens Trost und Saft
Jesus wahret allem Leide
Er ist meines Lebens Kraft

Meiner Augen Lust und Sonne
Meiner Seele Schatz und Wonne
Darum lass' ich Jesum nicht
Aus dem Herzen und Gesicht

Martin Janus, 166x

 

[james bond]

Athanasian creed

The creed is what we all believe. When it says "catholic," it isn't referring to the RCC. Basically, the creed doesn't address the Catholic dogma and isn't the same.

 

[toobfreak]

Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:

Pope Francis told a reporter on Wednesday it was an "honor" to be the subject of attacks from American religious conservatives and their Catholic allies.

The pope was speaking with French journalist Nicholas Seneze, the author of "How America Wants to Change Popes," when he responded to his American critics while heading to Mozambique for a three-day tour of sub-Saharan Africa.

His stances on climate change, immigration, homosexuality and theology have garnered heavy criticism from politicians and conservative Catholics and commentators. Some critics have demanded his resignation.
“It’s an honor that the Americans attack me,” the pontiff told Seneze.

Interesting that he characterized his critics as "the Americans" instead of 'the conservatives.' After all, the U.S. Church (and nearly all U.S. religious denominations) actually do have plenty of leftists -- they're actually dominated by them.

Which goes to show just how coldly he views the USA with all its famous freedoms, calling to mind that like the late Venezuelan socialist dictator Hugo Chavez, he's never spent appreciable time in the U.S. He knows nothing of democracy, other than the Peronist balcony-descamisados kind practiced in Argentina with its famous Argentine economic consequences. The U.S. practice of freely speaking one's mind and questioning authority that's failing unsettles him. He gets mad. If he's the good guy, then someone who criticizes him is the devil, which of course is why it's an 'honor.' The U.S. and all its freedom is a bad place, see, but he'd nevertheless like all the world's illegal migrants he claims to champion to somehow be here.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

If Pope Francis really, really hates Americans, I am POSITIVE that make him a DemonRAT!!

Fuck Francis. If I were a Catholic, he'd be enough to make me want to turn atheist.