POLL: Conservatives - Your thoughts on the upcoming Demographic Shift

How will Conservatism adapt to upcoming Demographic changes?

  • I don't believe the projected demographic changes are correct

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Minorities will come to see the light of day about conservatism soon (Explain how & why)

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • It's pretty much over for conservatism, as it is now, pretty soon

    Votes: 6 30.0%
  • Other, explain

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Mango. Mangos here, mangos there, mangos everywhere

    Votes: 6 30.0%

  • Total voters
    20

Mac1958

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A lot of issues we cover here seem temporary to me, based on current American demographics. Things are changing and will continue to do so. So I wonder how conservatism and the GOP plan on reacting to the demographic changes, if at all.

Right now, from my perspective, I think the Right is essentially ignoring what's coming, so I'm curious as to why that is.

If you vote for "Minorities will come to see the light of day about conservatism soon", please explain what is being done, right now, today, to make this happen.

Please respond and explain, thanks.
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I don't believe the projected demographic changes are correct
I could not help but laugh when I saw that poll option, not because its implausible, but because with regard to conservatives, it's the antithesis of implausible. Substantively, its theme of intransigent rejection of soundly/cogently developed predictions is characteristic of conservative anti-intellectualism.


Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all; who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes. I personally resent it bitterly.
-- Isaac Asimov, The Roving Mind
 
Nothing?

No thoughts, ideas?

Mac, I think you missed the fact that conservatism in the United States isn't static, the ideology will adapt as it has done for the last century, the conservatives of today will be tomorrow's "paleo conservatives" (for a current reference see: Pat Buchannan).

The good news is, that statism in all its malignant forms (e.g. American Progressivism) is a self curing disease, the state eventually collapses in on itself, the bad news is that the following years/decades/centuries tend to suck for the common folk.

"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up." -- Hosea 8:7, King James Bible
 
Well unless you want to be Allah's pawn, it's better start acting, quickly.

If the lefties have their way, it's not over for only conservatives, but the whole America. Just look at other countries with those demographics.
 
Nothing?

No thoughts, ideas?

Mac, I think you missed the fact that conservatism in the United States isn't static, the ideology will adapt as it has done for the last century, the conservatives of today will be tomorrow's "paleo conservatives" (for a current reference see: Pat Buchannan).

The good news is, that statism in all its malignant forms (e.g. American Progressivism) is a self curing disease, the state eventually collapses in on itself, the bad news is that the following years/decades/centuries tend to suck for the common folk.

"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up." -- Hosea 8:7, King James Bible
Thanks. So let's break that down a bit. It appears that what you're saying is that conservatism itself will change to adapt to demographic shifts, and not that it will convince people to move to what conservatism is today. Is that fair?
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It doesnt matter, really. We are fucked. The kids of today are statists, completely helpless, lazy and ignorant.
 
Well unless you want to be Allah's pawn, it's better start acting, quickly. If the lefties have their way, it's not over for only conservatives, but the whole America. Just look at other countries with those demographics.
So what can be done about that, specifically?
A wall would be a start.
You think that would change the minds of a minority population that is out-growing the white population?
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Nothing?

No thoughts, ideas?

Mac, I think you missed the fact that conservatism in the United States isn't static, the ideology will adapt as it has done for the last century, the conservatives of today will be tomorrow's "paleo conservatives" (for a current reference see: Pat Buchannan).

The good news is, that statism in all its malignant forms (e.g. American Progressivism) is a self curing disease, the state eventually collapses in on itself, the bad news is that the following years/decades/centuries tend to suck for the common folk.

"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up." -- Hosea 8:7, King James Bible
Thanks. So let's break that down a bit. It appears that what you're saying is that conservatism itself will change to adapt to demographic shifts, and not that it will convince people to move to what conservatism is today. Is that fair?
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Pretty much.

Broadly speaking, modern conservatism (aka "the right") is still all about a constant quest for political power so it will undoubtedly adapt because the alternative is to die and the powers that be on the right aren't about to let that happen.

It's not really about principles anymore, they'll do whatever to acquire, expand and maintain power and if that means embracing tomorrow what they loathe today, so be it.

"Between the mouth and the morsel many things may happen." -- Cato the Elder
 
It is more than minorities....it is young people

Conservatives are getting older
 
A lot of issues we cover here seem temporary to me, based on current American demographics. Things are changing and will continue to do so. So I wonder how conservatism and the GOP plan on reacting to the demographic changes, if at all.

Right now, from my perspective, I think the Right is essentially ignoring what's coming, so I'm curious as to why that is.

If you vote for "Minorities will come to see the light of day about conservatism soon", please explain what is being done, right now, today, to make this happen.

Please respond and explain, thanks.
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Party agendas and ideologies will change, they always do.
Democrats will always sell their ass to the most needy group with the highest fertility rate. Right now that’s illegal wetbacks and barely legal anchor babies.
I expect Blacks to begin voting Republican, it won’t be long before they realize Mexicans are stealing their welfare.
A couple things are for sure, as the ethnicity demos change so to will legislation, it will have to as the nation becomes more dangerous, more criminal, more lawless. I’ve told my girls in college, if they plan to stay in Mexifornia they should pursue degrees in criminal justice or the like as we should see expansion in law enforcement, jails, prisons and courts.
A browner America is a far more dangerous, far less productive America...this isn’t debatable.
(Now watch the Loons piss their little pink panties...they hate this candid truth shit)
 
My suspicions are that conservatives haven't really put a lot of thought into this.

Am I right?

I wondering how much thought you are putting into this.

Blacks, with the rate that they abort babies and shoot each other, will never
attain 20% of the population. Hell, they've been stuck at 12-14% of the population going on 25 years.

Thus you are believing that Hispanics will always vote for democrats.
I gotta tell ya, they ain't any different than a normal person. The majority
of those folks work and many of them have back-breaking work. They're
not going to sit back and watch their money handed out to deadbeats
without raising a fuss.

There has always been an adage in America that reads..."If you're 20
and not a democrat, you have no heart. If you're 40 and not a Republican
you have no brain."

Let me give you, what I consider is a good example. The protests, riots
and chaos of the Vietnam War. This Country was on the verge of anarchy.
Yet...all those millions of youth who demonstrated and the whatnot all grew
up to be NRA members, pro-military, anti-socialists.

They are the current retired folks or close to it.

Hispanics will be no different. Most are very religious. (Catholic). They are
hard-working, and most WANT to be Americans. They've endured a lot
just to get out of those shitholes that they come from. They have no desire
to return to that life.

Don't compare Hispanics to Blacks. you will warp your thinking and be
totally off center
 
My suspicions are that conservatives haven't really put a lot of thought into this.

Am I right?

I wondering how much thought you are putting into this.

Blacks, with the rate that they abort babies and shoot each other, will never
attain 20% of the population. Hell, they've been stuck at 12-14% of the population going on 25 years.

Thus you are believing that Hispanics will always vote for democrats.
I gotta tell ya, they ain't any different than a normal person. The majority
of those folks work and many of them have back-breaking work. They're
not going to sit back and watch their money handed out to deadbeats
without raising a fuss.

There has always been an adage in America that reads..."If you're 20
and not a democrat, you have no heart. If you're 40 and not a Republican
you have no brain."

Let me give you, what I consider is a good example. The protests, riots
and chaos of the Vietnam War. This Country was on the verge of anarchy.
Yet...all those millions of youth who demonstrated and the whatnot all grew
up to be NRA members, pro-military, anti-socialists.

They are the current retired folks or close to it.

Hispanics will be no different. Most are very religious. (Catholic). They are
hard-working, and most WANT to be Americans. They've endured a lot
just to get out of those shitholes that they come from. They have no desire
to return to that life.

Don't compare Hispanics to Blacks. you will warp your thinking and be
totally off center
Would it be safe to say, then, that conservatives can continue doing what they are now, and not worry about demographic changes?
.
 
My suspicions are that conservatives haven't really put a lot of thought into this.

Am I right?

I wondering how much thought you are putting into this.

Blacks, with the rate that they abort babies and shoot each other, will never
attain 20% of the population. Hell, they've been stuck at 12-14% of the population going on 25 years.

Thus you are believing that Hispanics will always vote for democrats.
I gotta tell ya, they ain't any different than a normal person. The majority
of those folks work and many of them have back-breaking work. They're
not going to sit back and watch their money handed out to deadbeats
without raising a fuss.

There has always been an adage in America that reads..."If you're 20
and not a democrat, you have no heart. If you're 40 and not a Republican
you have no brain."

Let me give you, what I consider is a good example. The protests, riots
and chaos of the Vietnam War. This Country was on the verge of anarchy.
Yet...all those millions of youth who demonstrated and the whatnot all grew
up to be NRA members, pro-military, anti-socialists.

They are the current retired folks or close to it.

Hispanics will be no different. Most are very religious. (Catholic). They are
hard-working, and most WANT to be Americans. They've endured a lot
just to get out of those shitholes that they come from. They have no desire
to return to that life.

Don't compare Hispanics to Blacks. you will warp your thinking and be
totally off center
Would it be safe to say, then, that conservatives can continue doing what they are now, and not worry about demographic changes?
.

Why can't they?

There will always be shifts of ideology. The Dems are the one's helping
the GOP and eventually turning away half the Hispanics by driving their
party tto the extreme Far Left.

In today's world...JFK would have been a good Republican.

The farther left the dems go...the more room they allow the GOP to expand
its base. The GOP is now stealing the moderate dems away, or turning
them into Independents.

In 2016 the libs still got Labor money, but they were devastated at the polls
in PA and the Midwest by white, blue collar workers. The libs don't have
anything to offer them to get them back.
 
My suspicions are that conservatives haven't really put a lot of thought into this.

Am I right?

I wondering how much thought you are putting into this.

Blacks, with the rate that they abort babies and shoot each other, will never
attain 20% of the population. Hell, they've been stuck at 12-14% of the population going on 25 years.

Thus you are believing that Hispanics will always vote for democrats.
I gotta tell ya, they ain't any different than a normal person. The majority
of those folks work and many of them have back-breaking work. They're
not going to sit back and watch their money handed out to deadbeats
without raising a fuss.

There has always been an adage in America that reads..."If you're 20
and not a democrat, you have no heart. If you're 40 and not a Republican
you have no brain."

Let me give you, what I consider is a good example. The protests, riots
and chaos of the Vietnam War. This Country was on the verge of anarchy.
Yet...all those millions of youth who demonstrated and the whatnot all grew
up to be NRA members, pro-military, anti-socialists.

They are the current retired folks or close to it.

Hispanics will be no different. Most are very religious. (Catholic). They are
hard-working, and most WANT to be Americans. They've endured a lot
just to get out of those shitholes that they come from. They have no desire
to return to that life.

Don't compare Hispanics to Blacks. you will warp your thinking and be
totally off center
Would it be safe to say, then, that conservatives can continue doing what they are now, and not worry about demographic changes?
.

Today, with more than 70% of the nation still White....it’s probably to soon for Conservatives to shift to baby-sitting bottom feeders, encouraging a welfare state mentality, decriminalizing everything and supporting open borders...right?
 

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