POLL: Conservatives - Your thoughts on the upcoming Demographic Shift

[rightwinger]

My suspicions are that conservatives haven't really put a lot of thought into this.

Am I right?

I wondering how much thought you are putting into this.

Blacks, with the rate that they abort babies and shoot each other, will never
attain 20% of the population. Hell, they've been stuck at 12-14% of the population going on 25 years.

Thus you are believing that Hispanics will always vote for democrats.
I gotta tell ya, they ain't any different than a normal person. The majority
of those folks work and many of them have back-breaking work. They're
not going to sit back and watch their money handed out to deadbeats
without raising a fuss.

There has always been an adage in America that reads..."If you're 20
and not a democrat, you have no heart. If you're 40 and not a Republican
you have no brain."

Let me give you, what I consider is a good example. The protests, riots
and chaos of the Vietnam War. This Country was on the verge of anarchy.
Yet...all those millions of youth who demonstrated and the whatnot all grew
up to be NRA members, pro-military, anti-socialists.

They are the current retired folks or close to it.

Hispanics will be no different. Most are very religious. (Catholic). They are
hard-working, and most WANT to be Americans. They've endured a lot
just to get out of those shitholes that they come from. They have no desire
to return to that life.

Don't compare Hispanics to Blacks. you will warp your thinking and be
totally off center

Both blacks and Hispanics are "outbreeding" whites

Neither will vote Republican until Republicans give them a reason to do so. So far, it seems they are doing everything they can to repel the minority vote

Trump got 38% of the Hispanic vote in 2016.

If the Dems don't save DACA, it will be 45% in 2020.

You do realize who repealed DACA?
Who is building an unpopular wall

You do realize DACA was unconstitutional and even Obama acknowledged it before doing it, don't you? Trump is right to do what Obama didn't do and that is to force Congress to do their job and create actual legislation. He gave them plenty of time when he announced the "repeal". That they are acting like children is on them. And border security is not unpopular.

Trump revoked DACA without having something in hand to replace it
A million young people will suffer for his actions

Trump may build his wall of intolerance
But future generations will tear it down as a monument to hatred

 

[Mac1958]

Nothing? No thoughts, ideas?

So you’re saying without white people the USA will become a socialist country. So conservatives have to move that way or lose out?

Well, no, I'm not saying, I'm asking.

Do you have a clear and serious response?
.

Hasn’t that always been the implication behind the left wingers saying once they get enough Hispanic and black voters to out number whites they will get socialism? They don’t seem to be hiding they wish in any way so why should we?

Certainly the Democrats (and mostly the Regressive Left) are waiting for demographics to pave the way for what they want. That's why they're not interested in healing wounds. They figure they won't have to bother, and then it will be payback time.

What I don't understand is why Republicans don't seem to be paying attention to this.
.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

I went for the other...mainly because we need to distinguish between cultural conservatism..and political conservatism. The two are not the same. I think that cultural conservatism..i.e. the the protection of the the Right..err..White...way of life is doomed by the demographics.

Political Conservatism..small govt., fiscal responsibility, strong military, anti-union--is in decline at the moment..but will rise again.

The cultural battles..are going to fade in a few years--the younger folk just don't care about the same things as their parents did.

 

[rightwinger]

Nothing? No thoughts, ideas?

So you’re saying without white people the USA will become a socialist country. So conservatives have to move that way or lose out?

Well, no, I'm not saying, I'm asking.

Do you have a clear and serious response?
.

Hasn’t that always been the implication behind the left wingers saying once they get enough Hispanic and black voters to out number whites they will get socialism? They don’t seem to be hiding they wish in any way so why should we?

Certainly the Democrats (and mostly the Regressive Left) are waiting for demographics to pave the way for what they want. That's why they're not interested in healing wounds. They figure they won't have to bother, and then it will be payback time.

What I don't understand is why Republicans don't seem to be paying attention to this.
.

The Democrats learned from Republicans what being a minority party means
Cooperation is not in the cards

 

[kwc57]

I wondering how much thought you are putting into this.

Blacks, with the rate that they abort babies and shoot each other, will never
attain 20% of the population. Hell, they've been stuck at 12-14% of the population going on 25 years.

Thus you are believing that Hispanics will always vote for democrats.
I gotta tell ya, they ain't any different than a normal person. The majority
of those folks work and many of them have back-breaking work. They're
not going to sit back and watch their money handed out to deadbeats
without raising a fuss.

There has always been an adage in America that reads..."If you're 20
and not a democrat, you have no heart. If you're 40 and not a Republican
you have no brain."

Let me give you, what I consider is a good example. The protests, riots
and chaos of the Vietnam War. This Country was on the verge of anarchy.
Yet...all those millions of youth who demonstrated and the whatnot all grew
up to be NRA members, pro-military, anti-socialists.

They are the current retired folks or close to it.

Hispanics will be no different. Most are very religious. (Catholic). They are
hard-working, and most WANT to be Americans. They've endured a lot
just to get out of those shitholes that they come from. They have no desire
to return to that life.

Don't compare Hispanics to Blacks. you will warp your thinking and be
totally off center

Both blacks and Hispanics are "outbreeding" whites

Neither will vote Republican until Republicans give them a reason to do so. So far, it seems they are doing everything they can to repel the minority vote

Trump got 38% of the Hispanic vote in 2016.

If the Dems don't save DACA, it will be 45% in 2020.

You do realize who repealed DACA?
Who is building an unpopular wall

You do realize DACA was unconstitutional and even Obama acknowledged it before doing it, don't you? Trump is right to do what Obama didn't do and that is to force Congress to do their job and create actual legislation. He gave them plenty of time when he announced the "repeal". That they are acting like children is on them. And border security is not unpopular.

Trump revoked DACA without having something in hand to replace it
A million young people will suffer for his actions

Trump may build his wall of intolerance
But future generations will tear it down as a monument to hatred

What part of unconstitutional and Congress's job is going over your head? Obama made the bed. Trump isn't going to lay in it.

 

[kwc57]

Nothing? No thoughts, ideas?

So you’re saying without white people the USA will become a socialist country. So conservatives have to move that way or lose out?

Well, no, I'm not saying, I'm asking.

Do you have a clear and serious response?
.

Hasn’t that always been the implication behind the left wingers saying once they get enough Hispanic and black voters to out number whites they will get socialism? They don’t seem to be hiding they wish in any way so why should we?

Certainly the Democrats (and mostly the Regressive Left) are waiting for demographics to pave the way for what they want. That's why they're not interested in healing wounds. They figure they won't have to bother, and then it will be payback time.

What I don't understand is why Republicans don't seem to be paying attention to this.
.

The Democrats learned from Republicans what being a minority party means
Cooperation is not in the cards

Republicans being a minority party was a leftwing and media myth that got disproved last election. Facts are a hard thing for some folks to accept, especially those who like to be told what to think.

 

[DJT for Life]

I wondering how much thought you are putting into this.

Blacks, with the rate that they abort babies and shoot each other, will never
attain 20% of the population. Hell, they've been stuck at 12-14% of the population going on 25 years.

Thus you are believing that Hispanics will always vote for democrats.
I gotta tell ya, they ain't any different than a normal person. The majority
of those folks work and many of them have back-breaking work. They're
not going to sit back and watch their money handed out to deadbeats
without raising a fuss.

There has always been an adage in America that reads..."If you're 20
and not a democrat, you have no heart. If you're 40 and not a Republican
you have no brain."

Let me give you, what I consider is a good example. The protests, riots
and chaos of the Vietnam War. This Country was on the verge of anarchy.
Yet...all those millions of youth who demonstrated and the whatnot all grew
up to be NRA members, pro-military, anti-socialists.

They are the current retired folks or close to it.

Hispanics will be no different. Most are very religious. (Catholic). They are
hard-working, and most WANT to be Americans. They've endured a lot
just to get out of those shitholes that they come from. They have no desire
to return to that life.

Don't compare Hispanics to Blacks. you will warp your thinking and be
totally off center

Both blacks and Hispanics are "outbreeding" whites

Neither will vote Republican until Republicans give them a reason to do so. So far, it seems they are doing everything they can to repel the minority vote

Trump got 38% of the Hispanic vote in 2016.

If the Dems don't save DACA, it will be 45% in 2020.

You do realize who repealed DACA?
Who is building an unpopular wall

You do realize DACA was unconstitutional and even Obama acknowledged it before doing it, don't you? Trump is right to do what Obama didn't do and that is to force Congress to do their job and create actual legislation. He gave them plenty of time when he announced the "repeal". That they are acting like children is on them. And border security is not unpopular.

Trump revoked DACA without having something in hand to replace it
A million young people will suffer for his actions

Trump may build his wall of intolerance
But future generations will tear it down as a monument to hatred

Hispanics that want to be here, will not give a shit about the wall.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

As with all such things, it will depend upon who has the power to enforce their will.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

As with all such things, it will depend upon who has the power to enforce their will.

And the will to enforce their power.

 

[usmbguest5318]

How will Conservatism adapt to upcoming Demographic changes?

I'm sure they'll attempt to do things that strike them, perhaps others, as adaptation efforts; however, it's not at all clear to me that they, on the whole, will indeed adapt, though certain conservative individuals may well do so.

 

[rightwinger]

So you’re saying without white people the USA will become a socialist country. So conservatives have to move that way or lose out?

Well, no, I'm not saying, I'm asking.

Do you have a clear and serious response?
.

Hasn’t that always been the implication behind the left wingers saying once they get enough Hispanic and black voters to out number whites they will get socialism? They don’t seem to be hiding they wish in any way so why should we?

Certainly the Democrats (and mostly the Regressive Left) are waiting for demographics to pave the way for what they want. That's why they're not interested in healing wounds. They figure they won't have to bother, and then it will be payback time.

What I don't understand is why Republicans don't seem to be paying attention to this.
.

The Democrats learned from Republicans what being a minority party means
Cooperation is not in the cards

Republicans being a minority party was a leftwing and media myth that got disproved last election. Facts are a hard thing for some folks to accept, especially those who like to be told what to think.

Republicans rule from a minority

They received fewer votes for the Presidency
Republican Senators have received fewer votes than Democratic Senators
Republican Congressmen have received fewer votes than the Democrats through the wonders of Gerrymandering
They stole the Supreme Court

 

[Correll]

A lot of issues we cover here seem temporary to me, based on current American demographics. Things are changing and will continue to do so. So I wonder how conservatism and the GOP plan on reacting to the demographic changes, if at all.

Right now, from my perspective, I think the Right is essentially ignoring what's coming, so I'm curious as to why that is.

If you vote for "Minorities will come to see the light of day about conservatism soon", please explain what is being done, right now, today, to make this happen.

Please respond and explain, thanks.
.

It's not over for conservatism, it's over for the Two Party system and anything we recognize as America.


Barring drastic unforeseen changes.

 

[Two Thumbs]

A lot of issues we cover here seem temporary to me, based on current American demographics. Things are changing and will continue to do so. So I wonder how conservatism and the GOP plan on reacting to the demographic changes, if at all.

Right now, from my perspective, I think the Right is essentially ignoring what's coming, so I'm curious as to why that is.

If you vote for "Minorities will come to see the light of day about conservatism soon", please explain what is being done, right now, today, to make this happen.

Please respond and explain, thanks.
.

It's pretty much over for conservatism, as it is now, pretty soon


minorities are mostly on the plantation as it is. they are fully convinced that they are owed opm. Nothing will be done to prevent this.

cons don't run the schools, leftist 'teachers' do.
cons don't support welfare, leftist officials do.

the gop will adapt, conservatives will dig around for someone to support.

but actual conservatives; low taxes, low spending, follow the Constitution, are a dying breed.

In 30 years the Constitution will be a memory, replaced by feel good rules that can be changed to keep people in line.

 

[Anathema]

OTHER: Brown and black bodies are just as good at stopping bullets as white liberal ones will be in the coming Civil War that this country is poised on the brink of.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Who cares??
I am serious.
Our problems are not defined by Democrat and Republican. Despite what the media and the elected vipers constantly pound into your head. Despite what the education system very much tries to implant into our children's heads.
The problem is CORPORATISM.
And the corruption and removal of the republic, replacing it with a corporate plutocracy.

 

[TheParser]

I agree: When (not "if") the United States becomes a people-of-color majority nation, your grandchildren's grandchildren's children may be living in a very conservative society.

*****

Many people of color are socially conservative, e.g., anti-gay, anti-abortion, etc.

Furthermore, when (not "if") Hispanic Americans become the majority, they may be the ones who actually build a wall. Contrary to received wisdom, they may NOT want people just walking willy-nilly into the country. (In fact, it has been reported that some Hispanic Americans today are not especially thrilled with so many undocumented immigrants entering the country.)

*****

I think that history has taught all of us that one can never predict the future (except that there will always be taxes and death).

 

[kwc57]

Well, no, I'm not saying, I'm asking.

Do you have a clear and serious response?
.

Hasn’t that always been the implication behind the left wingers saying once they get enough Hispanic and black voters to out number whites they will get socialism? They don’t seem to be hiding they wish in any way so why should we?

Certainly the Democrats (and mostly the Regressive Left) are waiting for demographics to pave the way for what they want. That's why they're not interested in healing wounds. They figure they won't have to bother, and then it will be payback time.

What I don't understand is why Republicans don't seem to be paying attention to this.
.

The Democrats learned from Republicans what being a minority party means
Cooperation is not in the cards

Republicans being a minority party was a leftwing and media myth that got disproved last election. Facts are a hard thing for some folks to accept, especially those who like to be told what to think.

Republicans rule from a minority

They received fewer votes for the Presidency
Republican Senators have received fewer votes than Democratic Senators
Republican Congressmen have received fewer votes than the Democrats through the wonders of Gerrymandering
They stole the Supreme Court

Yawn....

 

[iceberg]

A lot of issues we cover here seem temporary to me, based on current American demographics. Things are changing and will continue to do so. So I wonder how conservatism and the GOP plan on reacting to the demographic changes, if at all.

Right now, from my perspective, I think the Right is essentially ignoring what's coming, so I'm curious as to why that is.

If you vote for "Minorities will come to see the light of day about conservatism soon", please explain what is being done, right now, today, to make this happen.

Please respond and explain, thanks.
.

i think it's too early to tell. i think a lot of people *WANT* a desired outcome so they go in thinking it should *ONLY* be that way and then things start going south regardless because no one ever gets everything they want.

 

[bendog]

Well unless you want to be Allah's pawn, it's better start acting, quickly. If the lefties have their way, it's not over for only conservatives, but the whole America. Just look at other countries with those demographics.

So what can be done about that, specifically?
.

Norman merely illustrates that what passes for conservatives right now is not what conservatism has been about since the time of John Adams. And this may be NightFox's point.

Conservatism has had a problem with African Americans votes, and there may be structural reasons for this. In 1861, the gop were the progressives, but even Lincoln was not initially about freeing all the slaves.

But conservatism itself has done very well with other immigrant groups.

 

[ptbw forever]

It is more than minorities....it is young people

Conservatives are getting older

Your day of reckoning with the white youth will come very soon.

Don't worry.