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  1. JOKER96BRAVO
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    I've been over this before, but I'll do it again.
    Last night I bought the new Ministry album and I wasted my money.
    I knew the album was going to be a little anti-Bush but it was a little much.
    The entire album is nothing but a musical rant. They even took quotes from
    Bush and changed them around to say such things as "I am a terrorist",
    "I want your money", and "we need crude oil". Don't get me wrong, I can take
    an opinion but this crap covered the entire album. It's sad too because I've
    always credited Ministry for being the "I don't give a shit" band that plays
    music not to be considered mainstream. A few political blurbs here and
    there, but never so thick. I guess you would have to hear it and know
    what music Ministry USED to release.Someone tell me when I'll be able to buy an album again to hear real musical talent, and not political views?
     
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    System of a Down is the same way. It sucks.
     
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    That's what I complained about the first time. Them and Greenday.
     
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    Seems to me music has always been political. Back in WWI and WWII, it was used to rev people up. During Vietnam, it was mostly protest music that made political statements. Now you get stuff on both sides. Pro stuff from the country music folk and anti from the rockers/folkies.


    Chimes of Freedom
    By Bob Dylan

    Far between sundown's finish an' midnight's broken toll
    We ducked inside the doorway, thunder crashing
    As majestic bells of bolts struck shadows in the sounds
    Seeming to be the chimes of freedom flashing
    Flashing for the warriors whose strength is not to fight
    Flashing for the refugees on the unarmed road of flight
    An' for each an' ev'ry underdog soldier in the night
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    In the city's melted furnace, unexpectedly we watched
    With faces hidden while the walls were tightening
    As the echo of the wedding bells before the blowin' rain
    Dissolved into the bells of the lightning
    Tolling for the rebel, tolling for the rake
    Tolling for the luckless, the abandoned an' forsaked
    Tolling for the outcast, burnin' constantly at stake
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    Through the mad mystic hammering of the wild ripping hail
    The sky cracked its poems in naked wonder
    That the clinging of the church bells blew far into the breeze
    Leaving only bells of lightning and its thunder
    Striking for the gentle, striking for the kind
    Striking for the guardians and protectors of the mind
    An' the unpawned painter behind beyond his rightful time
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    Through the wild cathedral evening the rain unraveled tales
    For the disrobed faceless forms of no position
    Tolling for the tongues with no place to bring their thoughts
    All down in taken-for-granted situations
    Tolling for the deaf an' blind, tolling for the mute
    Tolling for the mistreated, mateless mother, the mistitled prostitute
    For the misdemeanor outlaw, chased an' cheated by pursuit
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    Even though a cloud's white curtain in a far-off corner flashed
    An' the hypnotic splattered mist was slowly lifting
    Electric light still struck like arrows, fired but for the ones
    Condemned to drift or else be kept from drifting
    Tolling for the searching ones, on their speechless, seeking trail
    For the lonesome-hearted lovers with too personal a tale
    An' for each unharmful, gentle soul misplaced inside a jail
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    Starry-eyed an' laughing as I recall when we were caught
    Trapped by no track of hours for they hanged suspended
    As we listened one last time an' we watched with one last look
    Spellbound an' swallowed 'til the tolling ended
    Tolling for the aching ones whose wounds cannot be nursed
    For the countless confused, accused, misused, strung-out ones an' worse
    An' for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe
    An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.

    Copyright © 1964; renewed 1992 Special Rider Music
     
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    I understand that but an entire album???
    The type of stuff they use makes it seem as if
    they don't even need music, they just wanna bitch.
    I buy the album under false pretenses (which comes from owning their
    previous albums) that I'm buying it to hear some musical talent.

    Plain and simple, I like my politics seperated from my music.
    At least 90% of the album anyway.
     
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    I hear ya. But maybe that's mostly because you disagree with their politics. Maybe they're pissed and this is their outlet? Would you be as put off by it if they were mirroring your feelings? Don't get me wrong, I can see where it would bug you (Springsteen has some stuff that makes me cranky that way). Just asking :)
     
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    No, it's all politics.
    Sex drugs and all that other stuff for me please.
    Love on occasion, but I'll watch CNN for political views not MTV.
     
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    That's fair. I respect consistency. :cool:
     
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    I can even do politics (both sides) in music with moderation.
    I grew up Idolizing Metallica, but they knew when too much was too much.
    An entire album is too much.
     
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    I think the big difference now is that most political music these days just feels forced. The lyrics don't quite work because they're trying to squeeze too much into a song. I'd settle even for a little creativity in songwriting, vague metaphors and the what not. This blatant don't-have-to-think-to-figure-out-the-meaning shit is depressing.
     

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