Police State: Santa Monica Extends Smoking Ban To Apartments, Condos...

[paulitician]

Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences

The city council voted 4-2 on Tuesday to expand a smoking prohibition in the coastal city.


Smoking is already banned at beaches, parks, restaurants and near buildings in Santa Monica, but Tuesday night the city council sought to expand that prohibition and voted 4-2 to ban smoking for all new tenants of apartments and condos inside their residences – with one exception.

“It also requires existing residents to designate their units as smoking or non smoking and from then on it will be prohibited to smoke in a non smoking unit,” said Adam Radinksy, head of the Consumer Protection Unit in Santa Monica.

The coastal city’s smoking bans date back almost two decades and Radinsky – along with other supporters of the ban – say the measures are in the interest of public health.

“People have come to testify to city council about asthma problems, people who had no prior health problems who developed health problems because their neighbors smoke,” he said.

Wayne Jackson, a smoker, says Southland residents breathe in pollution all day – pointing to a bus passing by as a “health issue.”

“I think it's a little too much control,” he said.

Jennifer Jones – who exercises in her apartment – describes smelling her neighbor's cigarette through the walls and vents.

“It’s not like a light smoke; it's really heavy,” Jones said.

Still, she has concerns with the new ordinance.

“I really don't think they should be telling people what to do if they are paying for the place they're living in,” Jones said.

Other cities have taken similar measures. Pasadena will make all apartments, condos and townhouses smoke-free by 2013 – a move Santa Monica is also looking into...

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[GuyPinestra]

Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences

The city council voted 4-2 on Tuesday to expand a smoking prohibition in the coastal city.


Smoking is already banned at beaches, parks, restaurants and near buildings in Santa Monica, but Tuesday night the city council sought to expand that prohibition and voted 4-2 to ban smoking for all new tenants of apartments and condos inside their residences – with one exception.

“It also requires existing residents to designate their units as smoking or non smoking and from then on it will be prohibited to smoke in a non smoking unit,” said Adam Radinksy, head of the Consumer Protection Unit in Santa Monica.

The coastal city’s smoking bans date back almost two decades and Radinsky – along with other supporters of the ban – say the measures are in the interest of public health.

“People have come to testify to city council about asthma problems, people who had no prior health problems who developed health problems because their neighbors smoke,” he said.

Wayne Jackson, a smoker, says Southland residents breathe in pollution all day – pointing to a bus passing by as a “health issue.”

“I think it's a little too much control,” he said.

Jennifer Jones – who exercises in her apartment – describes smelling her neighbor's cigarette through the walls and vents.

“It’s not like a light smoke; it's really heavy,” Jones said.

Still, she has concerns with the new ordinance.

“I really don't think they should be telling people what to do if they are paying for the place they're living in,” Jones said.

Other cities have taken similar measures. Pasadena will make all apartments, condos and townhouses smoke-free by 2013 – a move Santa Monica is also looking into...

Read More:
Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences | NBC Southern California
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

The Nanny-staters must be creaming their jeans over this shit....

 

[Inthemiddle]

I've no doubt the SCOTUS will emphatically shoot this down, if it even has to go that far. This is completely unconstitutional.

 

[paulitician]

Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences

The city council voted 4-2 on Tuesday to expand a smoking prohibition in the coastal city.


Smoking is already banned at beaches, parks, restaurants and near buildings in Santa Monica, but Tuesday night the city council sought to expand that prohibition and voted 4-2 to ban smoking for all new tenants of apartments and condos inside their residences – with one exception.

“It also requires existing residents to designate their units as smoking or non smoking and from then on it will be prohibited to smoke in a non smoking unit,” said Adam Radinksy, head of the Consumer Protection Unit in Santa Monica.

The coastal city’s smoking bans date back almost two decades and Radinsky – along with other supporters of the ban – say the measures are in the interest of public health.

“People have come to testify to city council about asthma problems, people who had no prior health problems who developed health problems because their neighbors smoke,” he said.

Wayne Jackson, a smoker, says Southland residents breathe in pollution all day – pointing to a bus passing by as a “health issue.”

“I think it's a little too much control,” he said.

Jennifer Jones – who exercises in her apartment – describes smelling her neighbor's cigarette through the walls and vents.

“It’s not like a light smoke; it's really heavy,” Jones said.

Still, she has concerns with the new ordinance.

“I really don't think they should be telling people what to do if they are paying for the place they're living in,” Jones said.

Other cities have taken similar measures. Pasadena will make all apartments, condos and townhouses smoke-free by 2013 – a move Santa Monica is also looking into...

Read More:
Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences | NBC Southern California
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

The Nanny-staters must be creaming their jeans over this shit....

Bigtime.

 

[paulitician]

I've no doubt the SCOTUS will emphatically shoot this down, if it even has to go that far. This is completely unconstitutional.

Thought that about the Mandate/Tax too. Our Supreme Court is a very sad scam at this point.

 

[Sinjorri]

I've no doubt the SCOTUS will emphatically shoot this down, if it even has to go that far. This is completely unconstitutional.

how come u think they would shoot this down because its unconstitutional yet we have a tax mandate?

 

[Wacky Quacky]

I've no doubt the SCOTUS will emphatically shoot this down, if it even has to go that far. This is completely unconstitutional.

how come u think they would shoot this down because its unconstitutional yet we have a tax mandate?

Apples and oranges. One is a tax, which the federal government has the power to do. The other is a ban on a legal activity in a private residence.

 

[High_Gravity]

Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences

The city council voted 4-2 on Tuesday to expand a smoking prohibition in the coastal city.


Smoking is already banned at beaches, parks, restaurants and near buildings in Santa Monica, but Tuesday night the city council sought to expand that prohibition and voted 4-2 to ban smoking for all new tenants of apartments and condos inside their residences – with one exception.

“It also requires existing residents to designate their units as smoking or non smoking and from then on it will be prohibited to smoke in a non smoking unit,” said Adam Radinksy, head of the Consumer Protection Unit in Santa Monica.

The coastal city’s smoking bans date back almost two decades and Radinsky – along with other supporters of the ban – say the measures are in the interest of public health.

“People have come to testify to city council about asthma problems, people who had no prior health problems who developed health problems because their neighbors smoke,” he said.

Wayne Jackson, a smoker, says Southland residents breathe in pollution all day – pointing to a bus passing by as a “health issue.”

“I think it's a little too much control,” he said.

Jennifer Jones – who exercises in her apartment – describes smelling her neighbor's cigarette through the walls and vents.

“It’s not like a light smoke; it's really heavy,” Jones said.

Still, she has concerns with the new ordinance.

“I really don't think they should be telling people what to do if they are paying for the place they're living in,” Jones said.

Other cities have taken similar measures. Pasadena will make all apartments, condos and townhouses smoke-free by 2013 – a move Santa Monica is also looking into...

Read More:
Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences | NBC Southern California
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

This has been going on for a while, when I lived in California my landlord specifically listed no smoking as part of my leese agreement.

 

[paulitician]

Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences

The city council voted 4-2 on Tuesday to expand a smoking prohibition in the coastal city.


Smoking is already banned at beaches, parks, restaurants and near buildings in Santa Monica, but Tuesday night the city council sought to expand that prohibition and voted 4-2 to ban smoking for all new tenants of apartments and condos inside their residences – with one exception.

“It also requires existing residents to designate their units as smoking or non smoking and from then on it will be prohibited to smoke in a non smoking unit,” said Adam Radinksy, head of the Consumer Protection Unit in Santa Monica.

The coastal city’s smoking bans date back almost two decades and Radinsky – along with other supporters of the ban – say the measures are in the interest of public health.

“People have come to testify to city council about asthma problems, people who had no prior health problems who developed health problems because their neighbors smoke,” he said.

Wayne Jackson, a smoker, says Southland residents breathe in pollution all day – pointing to a bus passing by as a “health issue.”

“I think it's a little too much control,” he said.

Jennifer Jones – who exercises in her apartment – describes smelling her neighbor's cigarette through the walls and vents.

“It’s not like a light smoke; it's really heavy,” Jones said.

Still, she has concerns with the new ordinance.

“I really don't think they should be telling people what to do if they are paying for the place they're living in,” Jones said.

Other cities have taken similar measures. Pasadena will make all apartments, condos and townhouses smoke-free by 2013 – a move Santa Monica is also looking into...

Read More:
Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences | NBC Southern California
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

This has been going on for a while, when I lived in California my landlord specifically listed no smoking as part of my leese agreement.

Well now you and your Landlord have no choice. It will be interesting to see how they'll enforce this. More surveillance cameras?

 

[Nosmo King]

I've no doubt the SCOTUS will emphatically shoot this down, if it even has to go that far. This is completely unconstitutional.

How?

 

[G.T.]

"“It also requires existing residents to designate their units as smoking or non smoking and from then on it will be prohibited to smoke in a non smoking unit,” said Adam Radinksy, head of the Consumer Protection Unit in Santa Monica."

doesn't sound like a smoking ban, to me. sounds pretty voluntary.

 

[Katzndogz]

Once you rent an apartment the interior is your property subject to the laws of the municipality. Interestingly enough, the protection of rental property use was upheld and restrictions overturned back when landlords had rules that they wouldn't accept people with children. Try to rent an apartment with a drug use restriction and evict pot smokers. See where that gets you.

This is going to end up in a morass of legal entangelments and will largely be ignored.

 

[High_Gravity]

Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences

The city council voted 4-2 on Tuesday to expand a smoking prohibition in the coastal city.


Smoking is already banned at beaches, parks, restaurants and near buildings in Santa Monica, but Tuesday night the city council sought to expand that prohibition and voted 4-2 to ban smoking for all new tenants of apartments and condos inside their residences – with one exception.

“It also requires existing residents to designate their units as smoking or non smoking and from then on it will be prohibited to smoke in a non smoking unit,” said Adam Radinksy, head of the Consumer Protection Unit in Santa Monica.

The coastal city’s smoking bans date back almost two decades and Radinsky – along with other supporters of the ban – say the measures are in the interest of public health.

“People have come to testify to city council about asthma problems, people who had no prior health problems who developed health problems because their neighbors smoke,” he said.

Wayne Jackson, a smoker, says Southland residents breathe in pollution all day – pointing to a bus passing by as a “health issue.”

“I think it's a little too much control,” he said.

Jennifer Jones – who exercises in her apartment – describes smelling her neighbor's cigarette through the walls and vents.

“It’s not like a light smoke; it's really heavy,” Jones said.

Still, she has concerns with the new ordinance.

“I really don't think they should be telling people what to do if they are paying for the place they're living in,” Jones said.

Other cities have taken similar measures. Pasadena will make all apartments, condos and townhouses smoke-free by 2013 – a move Santa Monica is also looking into...

Read More:
Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences | NBC Southern California
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

This has been going on for a while, when I lived in California my landlord specifically listed no smoking as part of my leese agreement.

Well now you and your Landlord have no choice. It will be interesting to see how they'll enforce this. More surveillance cameras?

Not sure how they'll enforce this, whats next? no alcohol allowed in the apartments, can't have women over for one night stands? my god what is this country becoming?

 

[High_Gravity]

Once you rent an apartment the interior is your property subject to the laws of the municipality. Interestingly enough, the protection of rental property use was upheld and restrictions overturned back when landlords had rules that they wouldn't accept people with children. Try to rent an apartment with a drug use restriction and evict pot smokers. See where that gets you.

This is going to end up in a morass of legal entangelments and will largely be ignored.

I don't know the anti smoking campaign is strong, they are talking about taking down all the smoking areas at my job next week. Pot smokers and cocaine users have more rights than smokers right now.

 

[paulitician]

This has been going on for a while, when I lived in California my landlord specifically listed no smoking as part of my leese agreement.

Well now you and your Landlord have no choice. It will be interesting to see how they'll enforce this. More surveillance cameras?

Not sure how they'll enforce this, whats next? no alcohol allowed in the apartments, can't have women over for one night stands? my god what is this country becoming?

Unfortunately, those are very real possibilities. And wait till Big Brother assumes control of Citizens' bodies, by way of their Health Insurance debacle. Things are gonna get much worse.

 

[Inthemiddle]

I've no doubt the SCOTUS will emphatically shoot this down, if it even has to go that far. This is completely unconstitutional.

how come u think they would shoot this down because its unconstitutional yet we have a tax mandate?

You're comparing apples to blueberries. They're entirely different things. I would expect this to be unconstitutional on the same basis as sodomy laws. The state does not have the power to say "well we know this is legal, but you just can't do it in your home."

 

[High_Gravity]

Well now you and your Landlord have no choice. It will be interesting to see how they'll enforce this. More surveillance cameras?

Not sure how they'll enforce this, whats next? no alcohol allowed in the apartments, can't have women over for one night stands? my god what is this country becoming?

Unfortunately, those are very real possibilities. And wait till Big Brother assumes control of Citizens' bodies, by way of their Health Insurance debacle. Things are gonna get much worse.

Holy fuck, we are turning into a combo of the old USSR and Soviet Russia. Next pre marital sex will be punished by a prison sentence.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Holy fuck, we are turning into a combo of the old USSR and Soviet Russia. Next pre marital sex will be punished by a prison sentence.

Where people will resort to all kinds of gay sex and sodomy, which will once again be illegal.

 

[initforme]

I say put it in the hands of the apartment owner. If I owned a complex there I would make it smoke free. No smokers. They tend to trash and smell up the place. But that should be left up to the owner.

 

[High_Gravity]

Holy fuck, we are turning into a combo of the old USSR and Soviet Russia. Next pre marital sex will be punished by a prison sentence.

Where people will resort to all kinds of gay sex and sodomy, which will once again be illegal.

People get wierd and creepy when they are not getting laid, I vote for more sex not less.