CDZ Please someone opposed to Georgia voter bill

[RetiredGySgt]

No one has answered either question.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Voter ID law: no document required to vote
- State mail-in voting status: vote by mail is the default (all voters are mailed a ballot)
- Early voting policy: no-excuse early voting is allowed
- Felony voting law: voting rights reinstated immediately upon completion of prison and parole time
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Ca voting laws.

And you see what a shithole California is. Pelosi, Waters and
Feinstein fir example

Now hold on they have Gavin and Schiff... Wait, I ain’t helping am I?

Look, California is a mess and hopefully they fix it one day and if not, well not surprising...

 

[Devils_Advocate]

No one has answered either question.

I did and you asked me another one about Jim Crow...

So again this is about the ID requirement and the not allowing food and drink...

 

[Devils_Advocate]

As the OP asked the question the objection is the ID law requirement and standing in line and not allowing anyone to offer you food or drink.

Now the ID law has been discussed and it is true the State of Georgia is offering the ID’s for free and the Democrats are missing out on a Golden way to mess with the GOP.

As for the standing in line I agree no one should be bothering people while voting but the lines shouldn’t be long and yes voters have days where they can vote and should do their voting when lines are short and not last minute like many do.

As for the Jim Crow comment the fact is Biden is using words to stir the base and get the reaction he want while the base wait for someone like Maddow to inform them how to think about the subject while not reviewing the law and understanding it.

Now I hope this answers the OP questions and maybe he can understand this is typical partisan politics and the majority of the voting base will be clueless that Georgia Law is not that unusual...

 

[Jets]

1. The part in the law regarding food and drink in line.

2. The comment was hyperbolic palaver.

 

[asaratis]

NOT ONE poster has addressed the claim the law is Jim Crow on steroids.

That's because it was a Biden Lie and everyone knows it was a lie.

 

[Desperado]

1. The part in the law regarding food and drink in line.

Why is that blacks always want to be provided for?
Can't they bring their own water?

 

[Jets]

1. The part in the law regarding food and drink in line.

Why is that blacks always want to be provided for?
Can't they bring their own water?

Of course they can.

 

[candycorn]

It needlessly makes it harder for people to vote. Just like the Jim Crow Laws did.

 

[candycorn]

1. The part in the law regarding food and drink in line.

Why is that blacks always want to be provided for?
Can't they bring their own water?

Of course they can.

If the GOP loses another election, that won't be allowed either.

 

[MisterBeale]

Start by telling us why this law is necessary, so rushed, so under wraps. There were no circumstances that led up to this law being passed. Who passed it? Why did they pass it? Do not ask why people cannot follow it until you explain why it was so necessary to pass it in the first place.

It was passed to tighten up voting security by requiring people to have ID and limiting interaction at the polling places so people would not be asked who they are voting for ...

Now if you want to change the law then get out and help those with no ID’s to get one and vote in someone that will repeal the law...

Honestly if they are going to be fair, we should get rid of ID's and birth certificates all together. Then the government can't keep track of us as much.

Bring back anonymous FB, Twitter and Myspace. . .

That way, no one can be cancelled or have their lives and careers harmed for holding an opinion.

Bring back freedom.

 

[Donald H]

Someone opposed to the Georgia law be specific and provide me with the following

1) what EXACTLY are you opposed to in the bill?

2) what EXACTLY in the bill is like Jim Crow laws?

When you people ask for something 'exactly', it becomes immediately obvious that you don't want answers. You're just trying to troll up a response.

Demonstrate some sincerity and something appropriate for this CDZ section and we'll maybe be able to have a decent grown-up discussion.

 

[Pellinore]

I have a few reasons.

I don't think it's a good idea to let the State remove any local election official, for any or no reason, which this bill does. I think that opens the door for *actual* shenanigans by letting whichever party currently has the state power prevent change by simply nullifying a bunch of votes from any county that voted against them.

The bill shortens the time and makes it tougher to get absentee ballots, prohibits the state from sending applications to every voter, and places added restrictions on provisional ballots. All of these will serve to reduce the amount of people who can vote rather than expand it. It does expand weekend early-voting hours statewide, but in overcrowded areas (that is, cities) that is more than offset because it limits drop boxes to 1 per 100,000 voters, which disproportionately makes it tougher on city folk, and it gets ride of the two mobile vote bus things they had for overcrowded spots. The food and water thing, even if its intent was to prevent influencers, has the predictable effect of encouraging people to give up and go home.

They passed the law to guard against something that didn't happen, but there is some validity in assuring your people in a perception-is-reality kind of way that it won't happen in the future, so fair enough. Some things I left out actually help do that. These things, though, are limiting participation much more than they are expanding or securing it, and opening the door for future fraud much more than preventing it. So I think it's a bad law.

As for the second question, it's true that this will affect more Black and minority voters than white folks, but to use that hyperbole diminishes how truly awful Jim Crow really was. On the other hand, I'm not about to tell Black people that they can't call it that; I just personally wouldn't draw that line.

 

[Desperado]

1. The part in the law regarding food and drink in line.

Why is that blacks always want to be provided for?
Can't they bring their own water?

Of course they can.

If the can bring in their own water why the hell is this even an issue?
Last thing you want is some partisan hack handing out water bottles to people in line.

 

[asaratis]

1. The part in the law regarding food and drink in line.

Why is that blacks always want to be provided for?
Can't they bring their own water?

Of course they can.

If the can bring in their own water why the hell is this even an issue?
Last thing you want is some partisan hack handing out water bottles to people in line.

The issue is in partisans soliciting votes within 150 feet of the polling place. The permitted distribution of refreshments within that area is left to the poll workers who are prohibited from soliciting votes.

 

[jc456]

Someone opposed to the Georgia law be specific and provide me with the following

1) what EXACTLY are you opposed to in the bill?

2) what EXACTLY in the bill is like Jim Crow laws?

One provision to my understanding is the food and drink one which in my opinion could be solved if the districts make sure the lines are moving and not long.

The only other one is the voter ID but Democrats can get around that by helping all those that need one get one so that during the next election they can vote someone in to repeal the law...

Those are the only two things I can see what they have any issue with...

I’d is bullshit Bullshi

 

[IM2]

Lys has got a point. The republicans in Georgia passed a bill to undo the bill they passed 2 years ago. The was no reason for this law and the fact that the state legislature can overturn the results of an election seems to be the part you racists miss on purpose.

 

[DudleySmith]

Someone opposed to the Georgia law be specific and provide me with the following

1) what EXACTLY are you opposed to in the bill?

2) what EXACTLY in the bill is like Jim Crow laws?

One provision to my understanding is the food and drink one which in my opinion could be solved if the districts make sure the lines are moving and not long.

The only other one is the voter ID but Democrats can get around that by helping all those that need one get one so that during the next election they can vote someone in to repeal the law...

Those are the only two things I can see what they have any issue with...

They can send vans around to hire the homeless and take them to the polls, but they can't be bothered to take them down to get an ID.

 

[forkup]

Someone opposed to the Georgia law be specific and provide me with the following

1) what EXACTLY are you opposed to in the bill?

2) what EXACTLY in the bill is like Jim Crow laws?

Post 73 did a good and comprehensive job of answering your specific questions. And I'll add that a law being passed that has the predictable effect of less eligible voters voting without a good reason is something that should be opposed by everybody who believes in the concept of Democracy.

You can not state that it enhances election security without establishing that election security failed, something that Georgia more so than any other state thanks to full audits and manual recounts being conducted last election cycle denies.

I understand that the object of politics is to win elections. But like any contest, changing the rules to make you more likely to win a contest is cheating in any other context. And I don't like cheaters.

 

[IM2]

Someone opposed to the Georgia law be specific and provide me with the following

1) what EXACTLY are you opposed to in the bill?

2) what EXACTLY in the bill is like Jim Crow laws?

One provision to my understanding is the food and drink one which in my opinion could be solved if the districts make sure the lines are moving and not long.

The only other one is the voter ID but Democrats can get around that by helping all those that need one get one so that during the next election they can vote someone in to repeal the law...

Those are the only two things I can see what they have any issue with...

They can send vans around to hire the homeless and take them to the polls, but they can't be bothered to take them down to get an ID.

It doesn't cost money to vote.