Penalty for not buying insurance.

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    I asked what you do, and you bring up autos. I want to know what do you do since this thread is about the penalty for not having health ins.
     
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    Nobody is forced to buy automobile insurance.
     
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    No one is forced to buy an auto or forced to drive , but when you were born you came with a body.
     
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    Thanks for the update.
     
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    I'm not going to run down an endless 'what-if' list, but in general you do the same thing you do with all the other tragedies you might face in life. You figure out a way to deal with it. Or you don't.

    Can I ask you, what do you see as the purpose of government?
     
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    Nope, the title of this thread is about mandatory health ins or pay a fine.
     
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    No problem.
     
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    ? OK. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
     
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    Listen up, dipstick buddy. You're in auto denial.

    You gotta go to work in the morning. The residential rent is way, way too high for your income on the city block where you work, and it's not even safe to hang around the area after hours. The city bus doesn't run on time, and I'm dead sure you aren't piloting your personal helicopter without insurance, either.

    Grand theft of an automobile is a felony.
     
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    RE: What do you do?

    You hope and pray you are not like the little boy in the UK
    who died under the decisions made by the Public Hospital authorities
    NOT to treat him, NOT to save his life according to the wishes of his Parents, and even offers from the Pope
    to move him back to be with his family.

    Penelope

    Free will / Free choice in health care, including reproductive health, belongs to the person/individual. Penelope if YOU want to trust and give up your financial and medical decisions to GOVT management, BE MY GUEST

    But you have ZERO right to dictate this choice for OTHER PEOPLE.

    If YOU don't want to pay for those other people then write them out of the terms of service.

    Nothing is stopping Democrats, Liberals, Progressives Greens and even Libertarians
    from setting up our own Health Care coops, our own Associations and managing this
    ourselves. Except for this INSISTENCE that it be FORCED on everyone else through
    party politics and federal govt.

    I am still trying to educate and liberate enough fellow progressives to focus on setting up health care WITHOUT FORCING IT ON OTHERS through FEDERAL GOVT who REFUSE because "forcing it through federal govt' is AGAINST Constitutional beliefs.

    What does it take for that to register?

    If you Penelope were FORCED to register and be under terms requiring 'spiritual healing' that YOU don't believe in, you would NATURALLY REFUSE to let "Federal Govt" be abused to FORCE and DICTATE this against your will and beliefs.

    Why can't Liberals like you UNDERSTAND that Conservative/Constitutionalists
    DON'T BELIEVE in being FORCED by GOVT to run and fund their health care through govt AGAINST THEIR WILL?

    If they consent to SOME TERMS, such as through the STATE govt not federal,
    then allow them to CONSENT to just THOSE TERMS.

    But that does not give lblanket license to push ALL TERMS on others against their beliefs.

    Penelope that's like saying if prochoice people like us agree to banning abortion at 3 months,
    well, then we do agree to let govt regulate, and that means we agree to let govt ban all abortion and criminalize women in violation of rights of due process.

    NO, that doesn't give people the blanket right to start dictating laws regarding abortion.

    We still have to CONSENT to policies and procedures.

    So if people don't CONSENT to terms of health care through govt and how or how not to pay for this financially, the Constitutionalists like me are arguing for people's free choice as individuals NOT to be violated by the political beliefs of one party over another.

    What does it take to EXPLAIN this to my fellow liberals who are acting ANTI CHOICE
    by pushing health care laws through federal govt AGAINST THE BELIEFS of others?

    Do you not understand or believe those are REAL BELIEFS?
    Is THAT why you don't respect Constitutional rights and beliefs of other people?

    Please explain how we can reach an understanding on this.
    It is baffling to me that political beliefs can be so deeply engrained
    that people cannot see them for what they are.
     
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