Paul Ryan, "This isn't a budget, it's a "cause"."

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    Slash education

    slash the arts

    slash Medicare

    slash Social Security

    Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires

    Tax breaks for companies

    Subsidies for corporations

    Break unions

    Ship jobs to China

    End Abortions

    Starve the poor

    Deregulate Wall Street

    Deregulate the EPA

    Shut down the government

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    Perhaps the right wingers on this board can explain what the goal is?

    Where do "jobs" fit in? Besides sending them to China? And what kind of unskilled jobs?

    The right is doing more damage than al Qaeda ever could have imagined.
     
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    The goal is to make nanny-statist fruitcakes like you screech like stuck pigs.

    Looks like it's working.
     
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    How did the GOP ship jobs to China?
    What poor are starving?
     
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    The "GOAL" is a return to Constitutionally Limited Government. The "GOAL" is to make Article I, Sections 8 & 9, and the Tenth Amendment meaningful portions of the US Constitution again. The "GOAL" is to return this country to a society where PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY means something, and where people don't look to the Government to fix all their problems and provide their wants, needs, or desires in life.

    Sounds like one hell of a GOOD START to me.
     
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    read the "American Jobs Creation Act", it gave mega tax-breaks to move factories overseas. Couple that with low wages overseas, and we lost 14,000 factories. US manufacturing went from 28% of the economy to 12%.

    Poverty is rising
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States
     
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    There's only one way you're going to fix that issue.... Isolationism. Tell these companies that they're either American companies or their Foreign companies, and Foreign companies are not allowed to do business or sell their products in the United States... PERIOD.
     
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    Could you name the clause of the Constitution that authorizes any of those things?

    Perhaps you could explain how you would balance the budget, unless you are seriously going to tell me that it's wise to or a necessity to spend trillions of dollars we don't have?

    BTW rdean, glad to see you are alive.
     
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    You think this is only the GOP? NAFTA 1994 Free trade agreement with China 1999 The last year we ran a trade surplus was 1975. The road to our moving for a nation of producers to a nation of consumers is long and not the fault of one party.

    Starving poor? Where are they? At the welfare office? Where they drove cars. Talk on cell phones and play video games, while they wait to see their worker, I've seen them. Many are over weight. They don't look like they are starving to me. Starving--social bullshit.

    You see things as the fault of one party. If the GOP would just go away everything would be perfect. Both parties have turned the Federal government into a money eating monster.
    All they care about is power. You and I have no power at the Federal level. At the state level the citizen has power. We have the power of recall and the power of direct legislation.
    Only a socialist would oppose that.
     
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    Anytime anyone proposes something that limits government power and funding the Left yells like it's the end of the world. This is because they think people are sheep, incapable of doing anything for themselves without Big Daddy. Conservatives however have faith in the power of the individual to decide for himself what is best and act accordingly. In so doing he benefits others as well.
     
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    Then maybe you should shut the fuck up and go out and provide for your wants, needs, and desires, instead of complaining that it's the government's fault that you don't have them.
     

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