Paul Ryan's Budget or The Dems????

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Vote on Paul Ryan's Budget - Put Up New Ideas

  1. Ryan's Budget is fine as-is, cut taxes for the rich

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  2. Combine Ryan's Budget and the Debt Commission's

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  3. NO ACTION: keep going exactly as we have been

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  4. Raise Taxes on the rich, they don't need that much wealth

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  5. Start w/Ryan's Plan, then Cut Defense and Add-in the Clinton Era Tax Rates

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  6. Other, I'll explain in my post

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  1. kyzr
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    I cant trust the GOP, not after 8 years of Bush and the that mess.

    My question is, with Obama 3 years in and things still looking up and down. What has the GOP done to be trusted or even considered legit? I would hope the American public will at least wonder the same.

    I feel Paul budget is BS. I liked where the speaker was last week, his stance was something I could support. I think Paul's budget reminds me of Cheney and his false promises in Iraq. sorry....
     
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    I say neither.. the DEM budget is a joke.. and this one does not go far enough with cuts
     
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    The GOP currently has plans to increase the Pentagon's budget by $6 billion and this is when the Pentagon is even ready for cuts.

    While programs like Medicare has waste that need to be removed, not even touching the Defense budget is a joke that makes such a plan unable to take seriously.

    One of his earlier plans was to lower the tax rate to 25%, meanwhile putting in an 8.5% value-added consumption tax. Clearly to Paul Ryan, everyone needs to sacrifice except the rich.

    Of course, some of the better solutions to save money will be ignored by both parties in this discussion I assume. I remember reading that ending the War on Drugs will save governments (federal, state, local) somewhere in the area of at least $88 billion a year along with taxation of these drugs. Over a decade, that's $880 billion.
     
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    IMHO we need one that Saves SS and Medicare, the "no change" plan means that SS and Medicare will end when the US defaults. We MUST stop borrowing and paying interest on the Debt.
     
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    Start with Ryan's bill, slash the hell out of overseas military deployments and dump a couple boatloads of tax credits, subsidies and write-offs.

    Then, let's get to selling off all the land that the feds have been hoarding.
     
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    I was amazed how many military folks are still in Europe!! We can cut the Defense Budget by 15% over 5-years and never miss it. Bring the troops home and put them on the southern border.
     
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    Oddball, I just spent a week in Iraq for training purposes. I teach radar theory and SATCOM basics. Anyhow, you would disgusted with the amount of money we are wasting over there, its insane.


    Once we can cut the overseas needless spending, Iraq. I think a lot more Dems would be far more willing to come to the table. Right now, the GOP makes very little sense to me. they made the mess in Iraq and now say they have the ideas to fix our debt. its really sort of sad.
     
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    Ryan's prescription for Medicare is to replace it with the latest health care reform bill, passed last year, but for seniors.

    That's not a serious proposal.

    Some of his other proposals, however, have merit.
     
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    I would start with Ryan's cuts, add a total ban on all foreign aid (including sales of US Military items to foreign countries), recall all US Military personnel serving overseas into the United States, close all US Embassies and other foreign offices, and remove the US from NATO and the UN both financially and as signees. That ought to add quite a bit of additional savings to the budget.
     

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