Paul Ryan, "This isn't a budget, it's a "cause"."

Snake oil salesmen now have choirs of believers and corporations, aka persons, to feed their troughs. That anyone believes their nonsense is more a reflection on the lack of knowledge of the believer. Consider the failures of Coolidge/Hoover, Reagan/Bush, and Bush Jr and you have to wonder what they smoke. Losing in 08 has set forth the crazies. Money now controls the message.

Amazon.com: The Mendacity of Hope: Barack Obama and the Betrayal of American Liberalism (9780062011268): Roger D. Hodge: Books


"[W]hat is required is that Americans take a stand on behalf of their selfish material interests and against those of the monopolies and transnational corporations that have captured our institutions of government. The paradoxical character of our popular corruption is that the people have become slothfully selfless, too absorbed by their ephemeral entertainments and petty cultural disputes to assert their self-interest against the plunderers who rule them. ¶ Surely, however, the American people have not become so servile that they will forever submit to the rule of 1 percent. Surely we are capable of recognizing that the perverse corporate regime that has arisen in our country is a usurpation of popular government. Our Constitution unquestionably recognizes the right of a people to alter its mode of government: we have done so twenty-seven times. We may do so again. We may throw off these bonds and provide new guards for our future security." Roger D. Hodge

Jim Jones would be proud the way these Christian Fundamentalists have glugged down Ryans Kool Aid. It seems there is nothing too insane for them to absorb.

you're saying it will or won't pass the acid test.
 
Snake oil salesmen now have choirs of believers and corporations, aka persons, to feed their troughs. That anyone believes their nonsense is more a reflection on the lack of knowledge of the believer. Consider the failures of Coolidge/Hoover, Reagan/Bush, and Bush Jr and you have to wonder what they smoke. Losing in 08 has set forth the crazies. Money now controls the message.

Amazon.com: The Mendacity of Hope: Barack Obama and the Betrayal of American Liberalism (9780062011268): Roger D. Hodge: Books


"[W]hat is required is that Americans take a stand on behalf of their selfish material interests and against those of the monopolies and transnational corporations that have captured our institutions of government. The paradoxical character of our popular corruption is that the people have become slothfully selfless, too absorbed by their ephemeral entertainments and petty cultural disputes to assert their self-interest against the plunderers who rule them. ¶ Surely, however, the American people have not become so servile that they will forever submit to the rule of 1 percent. Surely we are capable of recognizing that the perverse corporate regime that has arisen in our country is a usurpation of popular government. Our Constitution unquestionably recognizes the right of a people to alter its mode of government: we have done so twenty-seven times. We may do so again. We may throw off these bonds and provide new guards for our future security." Roger D. Hodge

Jim Jones would be proud the way these Christian Fundamentalists have glugged down Ryans Kool Aid. It seems there is nothing too insane for them to absorb.

The Dems think their base is too stupid to see when they're being played. It's why they never bothered to submit a budget. I guess they were right.

How can the govenment continue to run if you never submit the proper docs to fund it?

Well, the Dems think they won't get blamed even though the GOP controlled House already passed their budget almost two months ago.
 
Snake oil salesmen now have choirs of believers and corporations, aka persons, to feed their troughs. That anyone believes their nonsense is more a reflection on the lack of knowledge of the believer. Consider the failures of Coolidge/Hoover, Reagan/Bush, and Bush Jr and you have to wonder what they smoke. Losing in 08 has set forth the crazies. Money now controls the message.

Amazon.com: The Mendacity of Hope: Barack Obama and the Betrayal of American Liberalism (9780062011268): Roger D. Hodge: Books


"[W]hat is required is that Americans take a stand on behalf of their selfish material interests and against those of the monopolies and transnational corporations that have captured our institutions of government. The paradoxical character of our popular corruption is that the people have become slothfully selfless, too absorbed by their ephemeral entertainments and petty cultural disputes to assert their self-interest against the plunderers who rule them. ¶ Surely, however, the American people have not become so servile that they will forever submit to the rule of 1 percent. Surely we are capable of recognizing that the perverse corporate regime that has arisen in our country is a usurpation of popular government. Our Constitution unquestionably recognizes the right of a people to alter its mode of government: we have done so twenty-seven times. We may do so again. We may throw off these bonds and provide new guards for our future security." Roger D. Hodge

Jim Jones would be proud the way these Christian Fundamentalists have glugged down Ryans Kool Aid. It seems there is nothing too insane for them to absorb.

The Dems think their base is too stupid to see when they're being played. It's why they never bothered to submit a budget. I guess they were right.

How can the govenment continue to run if you never submit the proper docs to fund it?

Well, the Dems think they won't get blamed even though the GOP controlled House already passed their budget almost two months ago.

Why should I care what the Dems are thinking? I'm just sitting back enjoying watching the Christian Fundamentalists crash the vehicle they stole and took out for a joy ride.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Slash education

slash the arts

slash Medicare

slash Social Security

Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires

Tax breaks for companies

Subsidies for corporations

Break unions

Ship jobs to China

End Abortions

Starve the poor

Deregulate Wall Street

Deregulate the EPA

Shut down the government

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Perhaps the right wingers on this board can explain what the goal is?

Where do "jobs" fit in? Besides sending them to China? And what kind of unskilled jobs?

The right is doing more damage than al Qaeda ever could have imagined.

Welcome to Ryancare!
 
Slash education

slash the arts

slash Medicare

slash Social Security

Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires

Tax breaks for companies

Subsidies for corporations

Break unions

Ship jobs to China

End Abortions

Starve the poor

Deregulate Wall Street

Deregulate the EPA

Shut down the government

-------------------------------------------------------

Perhaps the right wingers on this board can explain what the goal is?

Where do "jobs" fit in? Besides sending them to China? And what kind of unskilled jobs?

The right is doing more damage than al Qaeda ever could have imagined.

Welcome to Ryancare!

I was right.

You and Huggy are too stupid to know you're being played.

Speaking of being played, why doesn't the White House commission Steven Speilberg to produce a documentary called "They Want To Kill Your Babies!!!"

He can get John Williams to write the theme music.
 
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I understand his philosophy, all but the Subsidies for already-doing-well corps. If he really feels we're going broke I'm not sure why he'd ask that the Citizens chip in for that.

Ryan's plan CUTS subsidies. Like for ethanol and ag stuff. Why do you continue to support subsidies for big business?
 
Slash education

slash the arts

slash Medicare

slash Social Security

Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires

Tax breaks for companies

Subsidies for corporations

Break unions

Ship jobs to China

End Abortions

Starve the poor

Deregulate Wall Street

Deregulate the EPA

Shut down the government

-------------------------------------------------------

Perhaps the right wingers on this board can explain what the goal is?

Where do "jobs" fit in? Besides sending them to China? And what kind of unskilled jobs?

The right is doing more damage than al Qaeda ever could have imagined.


PERHAPS what you are failing to realize is this...

They (meaning the neo-cons whatever they happen to be calling themselves today) are NOT failing.

Their real agenda is a radical refutation and replacement of the current political system we have in place.

Despite all the patriotic flags these pirate fly, their REAL flag is the Jolly Roger, rdean.

These people do not love this nation and they especially hate what it proported stands for.

Their goal is the bankruptsy of the Governments of this nation, both FEDERAL and STATE.

They fully understand that if they can bankrupt the nation, the CORPORATIONS they own will be in charge.

That is the goal.

That is the mission.

And they've been on this mission for at least the last 30 years.

If you doubt me, or if you think I am over reacting.... READ ATLAS SHRUGGED.

That is the Turners Diary for the Insiders who are really calling the shots.
 
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Slash education

slash the arts

slash Medicare

slash Social Security

Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires

Tax breaks for companies

Subsidies for corporations

Break unions

Ship jobs to China

End Abortions

Starve the poor

Deregulate Wall Street

Deregulate the EPA

Shut down the government

-------------------------------------------------------

Perhaps the right wingers on this board can explain what the goal is?

Where do "jobs" fit in? Besides sending them to China? And what kind of unskilled jobs?

The right is doing more damage than al Qaeda ever could have imagined.


PERHAPS what you are failing to realize is this...

They (meaning the neo-cons whatever they happen to be calling themselves today) are NOT failing.

Their real agenda is a radical refutation and replacement of the current political system we have in place.

Despite all the patriotic flags these pirate fly, their REAL flag is the Jolly Roger, rdean.

These people do not love this nation and they especially hate what it proported stands for.

Their goal is the bankruptsy of the Governments of this nation, both FEDERAL and STATE.

They fully understand that if they can bankrupt the nation, the CORPORATIONS they own will be in charge.

That is the goal.

That is the mission.

And they've been on this mission for at least the last 30 years.

If you doubt me, or if you think I am over reacting.... READ ATLAS SHRUGGED.

That is the Turners Diary for the Insiders who are really calling the shots.

Hmm, so currently we have an engorged Federal bureaucracy issuing rules so numerous they don't even know all of them. We have a tax code so complicated the IRS gives incorrect answers to something like 40% of the questions posed. We have an unprecedented budget deficit that grows larger daily.
And the GOP are the ones bent on destroying the country???
WTF?
I think you have it backwards. The Dems want to wage 3 wars and cut the military at the same time. They want to increase taxes to drive industry out of this country. They want to increase regulations to shut down small business. They want to take over as many industries as possible, like student loans, and increase inefficiency, waste and fraud. They want to make more and more beneficiaries of the state, insuring their continued fealty. It is the Democratic Party that seeks to destroy this country and everything the Founders (whom they scorn as rich old slave owning men) established.
 
The goal is to make nanny-statist fruitcakes like you screech like stuck pigs.

Looks like it's working.

During the debate concerning Obama's attempted overhaul of our Healthcar/Insurance system, many GOP members as well as their attack groups, try to scare the hell out of seniors by telling them that the overhaul would strip them of their MediCare benefits. Now, the GOP is advocating the complete elimination of MediCare. What has changed in less than a year and a half?

It's not calling for that. Everyone 55 and older stays with Medicare. Those under 55 get a different program. One that actually might remain solvent instead of cause massive debt. One that actually does what they say it will and one we don't have to pass to see what's in it.
 
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The goal is to make nanny-statist fruitcakes like you screech like stuck pigs.

Looks like it's working.

During the debate concerning Obama's attempted overhaul of our Healthcar/Insurance system, many GOP members as well as their attack groups, try to scare the hell out of seniors by telling them that the overhaul would strip them of their MediCare benefits. Now, the GOP is advocating the complete elimination of MediCare. What has changed in less than a year and a half?

It's not calling for that. Everyone 55 and older stays with Medicare. Those under 55 get a didffderent program. One that actually might remain solvent instead of cause massive debt.



Everyone under 55 gets to participate in a program like the one for Federal Employees.

If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for us.
 
Slash education

slash the arts

slash Medicare

slash Social Security

Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires

Tax breaks for companies

Subsidies for corporations

Break unions

Ship jobs to China

End Abortions

Starve the poor

Deregulate Wall Street

Deregulate the EPA

Shut down the government

-------------------------------------------------------

Perhaps the right wingers on this board can explain what the goal is?

Where do "jobs" fit in? Besides sending them to China? And what kind of unskilled jobs?

The right is doing more damage than al Qaeda ever could have imagined.


PERHAPS what you are failing to realize is this...

They (meaning the neo-cons whatever they happen to be calling themselves today) are NOT failing.

Their real agenda is a radical refutation and replacement of the current political system we have in place.

Despite all the patriotic flags these pirate fly, their REAL flag is the Jolly Roger, rdean.

These people do not love this nation and they especially hate what it proported stands for.

Their goal is the bankruptsy of the Governments of this nation, both FEDERAL and STATE.

They fully understand that if they can bankrupt the nation, the CORPORATIONS they own will be in charge.

That is the goal.

That is the mission.

And they've been on this mission for at least the last 30 years.

If you doubt me, or if you think I am over reacting.... READ ATLAS SHRUGGED.

That is the Turners Diary for the Insiders who are really calling the shots.

Excuse me, but for a min I thought you got that from Glenn Beck. He was saying the same exact thing about the White house. You're projecting btw.

Carry on.
 
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Whatever else Ryan's plan is, politically it's a pipe dream.

It's going nowhere. The first step to progress would be for politicians to stop wasting everyone's time proposing plans that are subject to passing political muster when the plan itself is politically D.O.A.
 
Whatever else Ryan's plan is, politically it's a pipe dream.

It's going nowhere. The first step to progress would be for politicians to stop wasting everyone's time proposing plans that are subject to passing political muster when the plan itself is politically D.O.A.

Very true. The first step towards progress would be for the Citizenry to arm itself, drag these politicians out of their places of business, and then to tear down the entire current system in order to replace it with a properly functioning one.
 
The goal is to make nanny-statist fruitcakes like you screech like stuck pigs.

Looks like it's working.

only a randian imbecile would think that.
I'm not the one squealing the same stale old spurious and specious charges, against anyone and everyone who wants to start reining in federal spending here.

Pretty limp attempt at an insult...Even for you.
 
Slash education
slash the arts
slash Medicare
slash Social Security
Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires
Tax breaks for companies
Subsidies for corporations
Break unions
Ship jobs to China
End Abortions
Starve the poor
Deregulate Wall Street
Deregulate the EPA
Shut down the government
Sounds like a pretty good start.
:shrug:
 
The "GOAL" is a return to Constitutionally Limited Government. The "GOAL" is to make Article I, Sections 8 & 9, and the Tenth Amendment meaningful portions of the US Constitution again. The "GOAL" is to return this country to a society where PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY means something, and where people don't look to the Government to fix all their problems and provide their wants, needs, or desires in life.

Sounds like one hell of a GOOD START to me.

Wait a minute!

Anachronism responded to rdean's OP...which means that rdean is not on his ignore list!

What in the Name of FUCK???
 
Whatever else Ryan's plan is, politically it's a pipe dream.

It's going nowhere. The first step to progress would be for politicians to stop wasting everyone's time proposing plans that are subject to passing political muster when the plan itself is politically D.O.A.

I think the first thing we need to do is stop playing political games and work toward the common good. It shouldn't be about what special interests it favors. What helps businesses do business should be the priority, not making sure that children aren't fat, that seniors get their monthly cheese allowance, and assuring that the same 4 Cowboy Poets get their fat government check.
 
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