Patriotic Americans vs. Israel

[toastman]

It's really simple. Hamas keeps 'poking the bear', and despite warnings from Israel of a large scale attack, they continue to poke the bear, and then whine when Israel hits back hard.
Now, will ceasing rocket activity solve the conflict? Of course not, but it will certainly help Gazans. Don't launch rockets, it's that simple . It really is that simple.

If Israel stopped bombing and generally brutalizing the Palestinians maybe the Palestinians wouldn't have to fight back. The Israelis have been the primary aggressors in the conflict. It really is that simple.

If Americans Knew - What every American needs to know about Israel Palestine

That's a propaganda site. If the Palestinians would stop attacking/trying to attack Israel, there would be no attacks against them. It's that simple. How has attacking Israel helped the Palestinians.

 

[Thunderbird]

Murder would be the intentional targeting of civilians.

You mean like this:





It disgusts me to see America's good name dragged in the mud because of our association with Israeli thugs.

 

[toastman]

Murder would be the intentional targeting of civilians.

You mean like this:





It disgusts me to see America's good name dragged in the mud because of our association with Israeli thugs.

Look up the word TARGET. Civilians get killed in wars for various reasons; errant shells, large explosions that reach further than supposed to, human error etc... Look at what ISIS is doing, THAT is targeting civilians.
The way to avoid civilian casualties is to not attack Israel.

 

[Phoenall]

So who was to blame for the plight of Americans prior to 1980 when they first received US aid ?

You've exposed yourself as ignorant. Israel received aid long before 1980.

Not from the US they didn't, unless you can show differently

 

[Phoenall]

We suffered on 9/11 because of Israel...

Did you, why what did Israel do?

People in the Mideast are angry mostly because the U.S. supports the apartheid state of Israel.

They were angry because the US also attack Iraq and then Afghanistan, and the terrorists used all 3 as excuses to mass murder 3,000 innocents

 

[Phoenall]

Murder would be the intentional targeting of civilians.

You mean like this:





It disgusts me to see America's good name dragged in the mud because of our association with Israeli thugs.

Where are the court proceedings that show that Israel murdered children. If the children are in a war zone and actively acting as human shields then they are no longer protected.

 

[Phoenall]

Since when have you been an Israeli spokesperson to threaten anyone with alleged nuclear weapons.

There are some crazy war-mongers in Israel.

There are more outside of Israel trying to finish the Nazi's final solution.

 

[Phoenall]

We suffered on 9/11 because of Israel...

Did you, why what did Israel do?

People in the Mideast are angry mostly because the U.S. supports the apartheid state of Israel.

What kind of documentation do you have that proves Israel is an apartheid state other than the accusations of the unwashed?

What documentation do you need, when the facts on the ground bear it out?

The condition of the Palestinian people is no different than that of blacks in South Africa during Apartheid. Like black South Africans, Palestinians are not allowed to move freely on their own land. Like black South Africans, Palestinians must carry ‘passbooks’ to identify themselves to their military occupiers. Like black South Africans, Palestinians are subjected to the cantonization and theft of their ancestral homeland. Like black South Africans, Palestinians cannot vote for the people controlling their lives, and like black South Africans, Palestinians are discriminated against purely on the basis of their ethnicity.

They don't as it is just how you see it. and you have been brainwashed into hating the Jews by your religion..

Every time you are asked to provide evidence you go off topic and try and derail the thread.

Now produce the evidence of pre meditated killing, or murder, by Israel or admit that you are just stirring up RACIAL hatred for the Jews. ( by the way your link states that the Jews are a race, so making you a liar twice over )

 

[Phoenall]

So because Arabs hate Israel, they are hostile towards America, and you are willing to succumb to them? /if they don't like America because of Israel, yo

If the Israelis were in the right you might have a point. However, the Israelis have ethnically cleansed the Palestinians from their homes. The Israelis discriminate against the Palestinians. The Israelis bomb Palestinian civilians.

Only those that are militia

 

[Phoenall]

We suffered on 9/11 because of Israel...

Did you, why what did Israel do?

People in the Mideast are angry mostly because the U.S. supports the apartheid state of Israel.

So because Arabs hate Israel, they are hostile towards America, and you are willing to succumb to them? If they don't like America because of Israel, too fuckin bad for them. America will never succumb to their pressure from Arab violence.

If Israel is an Apartheid state, what are the Apartheid laws in Israel proper?

It's a long list, but just the basic "Law of Return" is a discriminatory and Apartheid law as it separates Jews from the non-Jews.

Nope as every nation has similar laws, even the U.S. who bar's many millions of people from entering every year.

 

[Phoenall]

Where do you get your information from Nazi's-r-us

Modern day Nazis are Israeli war-mongers.

Check out this article: Holocaust survivors condemn Israel for Gaza massacre call for boycott - Diplomacy and Defense - - Haaretz Daily Newspaper Israel News

Strange how the pali supporters don't look at the ties between Palestinian muslims and the Nazi's that should have led to the allies riding rough shod over them during WW2.

 

[Phoenall]

Since when have you been an Israeli spokesperson to threaten anyone with alleged nuclear weapons.

There are some crazy war-mongers in Israel.

It's the Palestinians who are the war mongers.

I ask you, how can the people that were colonized and evicted from their land by people from another continent be the war mongers. Can't you see what crazy logic that is? It's like saying the Indians were the war mongers in the Americas.

Because they came from outside the area to colonise Palestine after their attempts at forcing the LoN to change its mind on giving land to the Jews

 

[Phoenall]

It's really simple. Hamas keeps 'poking the bear', and despite warnings from Israel of a large scale attack, they continue to poke the bear, and then whine when Israel hits back hard.
Now, will ceasing rocket activity solve the conflict? Of course not, but it will certainly help Gazans. Don't launch rockets, it's that simple . It really is that simple.

If Israel stopped bombing and generally brutalizing the Palestinians maybe the Palestinians wouldn't have to fight back. The Israelis have been the primary aggressors in the conflict. It really is that simple.

If Americans Knew - What every American needs to know about Israel Palestine

WRMEA Middle East History Begin s Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its Wars

Maybe if the Palestinians were not so violent then Israel would have no need to retaliate. Take last summer when hamas murdered 3 Israeli children and fired over 200 rockets into Isreal to provoke a response. The Palestinians did not like the outcome of their poking the hive and getting stung badly

 

[Phoenall]

Palestinians regularly call for genocide of Jews/Israelis. Just like the Nazis.

Wouldn't the Nazis be the ones discriminating against a minority and committing mass murder?

Palestinian and Israeli Children Killed

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9 29 2000

In the M.E the Jews are the minority, and have always been discriminated against. Now they are fighting back and you don't like it.

 

[Hossfly]

We suffered on 9/11 because of Israel...

Did you, why what did Israel do?

People in the Mideast are angry mostly because the U.S. supports the apartheid state of Israel.

What kind of documentation do you have that proves Israel is an apartheid state other than the accusations of the unwashed?

What documentation do you need, when the facts on the ground bear it out?

The condition of the Palestinian people is no different than that of blacks in South Africa during Apartheid. Like black South Africans, Palestinians are not allowed to move freely on their own land. Like black South Africans, Palestinians must carry ‘passbooks’ to identify themselves to their military occupiers. Like black South Africans, Palestinians are subjected to the cantonization and theft of their ancestral homeland. Like black South Africans, Palestinians cannot vote for the people controlling their lives, and like black South Africans, Palestinians are discriminated against purely on the basis of their ethnicity.

That's nice.

 

[Thunderbird]

Strange how the pali supporters don't look at the ties between Palestinian muslims and the Nazi's

Why don't we look at the ties between the Zionists and the Nazis.

THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST True Torah Jews

 

[Thunderbird]

They were angry because the US also attack Iraq and then Afghanistan,

You Israelis are always trying to stir up trouble between Americans and Muslims. You always want America to do your fighting for you. You always want America to pay your bills too.

 

[montelatici]

Since when have you been an Israeli spokesperson to threaten anyone with alleged nuclear weapons.

There are some crazy war-mongers in Israel.

It's the Palestinians who are the war mongers.

I ask you, how can the people that were colonized and evicted from their land by people from another continent be the war mongers. Can't you see what crazy logic that is? It's like saying the Indians were the war mongers in the Americas.

Because they came from outside the area to colonise Palestine after their attempts at forcing the LoN to change its mind on giving land to the Jews

You know that you are full of shit. The Jews came from Europe and colonized Palestine. It is just a fact.

 

[Thunderbird]

Israeli heroes are good at abusing kids and bombing civilians. Actual fighting enemy armies is done by the Americans.

 

[toastman]

Israeli heroes are good at abusing kids and bombing civilians. Actual fighting enemy armies is done by the Americans.

Sorry, but we won't fall for your propaganda. Israel has fought several wars where they were surrounded by 5 armies, meaning they had to split their army and fight on all fronts at once, and won each time. Israel has been the MAJOR underdog in the 3 main wars she fought, outnumbered in every single aspect with her existence in question, yet still won.

Go spread your lies somewhere else ..