Palestinians Deny Jewish Connection to Jerusalem

Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.





Did his second cousin whose family had lived in Jerusalem from the first Temple have any connection. Did Ali ben nutjob from Mecca who went looking for work in 1890 have any connection to Jerusalem ?

The only people to move to Palestine in 1890 in any number were the European Jews. No one to speak of went to Palestine from Mecca. In fact, prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Whereas the
Hmmm! Who is stealing who's land? Well let's see now. Which came first? Solomon's Temple or the Al Aqsa Mosque?

Roman amphitheaters, villas, temples and baths pre-date any mosque in the Middle East or North Africa. What does that mean and what rights would it give to the descendants of the Romans?

Meanwhile, the Al Aqsa mosque is so holy to the Muslim Palestinians that they point their asses to it five times a day. :lmao:

Can you imagine Christians pointing their asses to the Vatican? That's what this is like:

Hundreds-Muslims-Praying-At-Al-Aqsa-Mosque-Jerusalem.jpg
 
Omar consulted rabbis when he arrived in Jerusalem before the mount was cleaned, repaired, the dome was built for the pilgrims and the Al-Aqsa mosque was built for the muslims. Even Mohammed turned away, leaving the city to the jews and christians, to avoid conflict.
 
Mohammed was long dead before the conquest of Jerusalem by the Muslims and Jews. You know absolutely nothing Aris. As they say, it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
 
Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. Why? Because dspite repeated attempts to make it otherwise Jews repelled every invading army and defeated every foe in battle.

If Jerusalem and Israel was anyone else's, God wouldn't be on their side now would he?
You forgot the Romans..........such a post should be thrown into the GARBAGE CAN OF THE INSANE




NOPE the Romans were just like the muslims belligerent violent invaders
SO WERE THE JEWS CIRCA 1925 ONWARDS,you are SCREWED AGAIN
 
Mohammed was long dead before the conquest of Jerusalem by the Muslims and Jews. You know absolutely nothing Aris. As they say, it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

And you think you know jack? You're nothing but a liar and a bigot, who's always fool whether you speak or if you're silent. Who the hell do you think you are, asshole?
 
Wonder if any Ayrabs had any connection to Jerusalem before Mo-Hamhead was spawned?
Can't all Abrahamic religions claim some connection to Jerusalem?

no. there's really no connection between jerusalem and islam. it isn't mentioned a single time in the koran. yet it forms the center of judaism in the talmud and christianity in the new testament.
Interesting I didn't know that.

I wonder who are the descendants of the Canaanites? I believe they would have an older claim to whatever the hell Jerusalem was thousands of years ago.

i think it's correct they'd be the phoenicians.
Yawn

quiet, terrorist supporting troll. :cuckoo:
 
Hmmm! Who is stealing who's land? Well let's see now. Which came first? Solomon's Temple or the Al Aqsa Mosque?

Roman amphitheaters, villas, temples and baths pre-date any mosque in the Middle East or North Africa. What does that mean and what rights would it give to the descendants of the Romans?

None as they were invaders who had no ties to the land. They also built in the UK but this does not give them any rights of sovereignty.

Now who has the greater claim to the land under longevity of possession and international law ?
 
Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.





Did his second cousin whose family had lived in Jerusalem from the first Temple have any connection. Did Ali ben nutjob from Mecca who went looking for work in 1890 have any connection to Jerusalem ?

The only people to move to Palestine in 1890 in any number were the European Jews. No one to speak of went to Palestine from Mecca. In fact, prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921




Proven to be false by the research done by the Catholic church


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000;
Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

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Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm



Go to the new address at the top of the link

Besides confirming the high rate of migration to Palestine by the Europeans, what does the population of Jerusalem have to do with the population of Palestine?




Where does it confirm a high rate of migration by only the Jews ?

The census covered the Sanjak of Jerusalem not just the city and this shows that the area was nearly all of modern day Israel

Ottoman_levant.png



Want to try again freddy boy ?
 
The Pole was living in Poland and the Palestinian was living in Palestine. Is that a hint?





not really you live in America but it does not mean you have any links to America. In fact America has very little European archaeological records but plenty of Pueblo and first nation finds. How much 7c or earlier arab muslim remains can be found in Jerusalem, even the dome of the rock and al aqsa mosque are recent edifices.

Are you claiming that Poles were not living in Poland?

The people of Palestine were Christians prior to about 7 AD. After which, they adopted the Arabic language (became Arabs culturally) and many converted to Islam.





They were forced to convert or be murdered is the reality, by a religion that held the land for less than 40 years before being evicted. They never held sovereignty over the land again until the LoN granted it to them, and not all of Palestine was included.
 
Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. Why? Because dspite repeated attempts to make it otherwise Jews repelled every invading army and defeated every foe in battle.

If Jerusalem and Israel was anyone else's, God wouldn't be on their side now would he?
You forgot the Romans..........such a post should be thrown into the GARBAGE CAN OF THE INSANE




NOPE the Romans were just like the muslims belligerent violent invaders
SO WERE THE JEWS CIRCA 1925 ONWARDS,you are SCREWED AGAIN




Nope as they were only defending what was theirs under International law. And the arab muslims started the violence in 1917 when they found they were to lose part of the M.E.
 
Mohammed was long dead before the conquest of Jerusalem by the Muslims and Jews. You know absolutely nothing Aris. As they say, it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

And you think you know jack? You're nothing but a liar and a bigot, who's always fool whether you speak or if you're silent. Who the hell do you think you are, asshole?

Now that's quite eloquent.
 
Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. Why? Because dspite repeated attempts to make it otherwise Jews repelled every invading army and defeated every foe in battle.

If Jerusalem and Israel was anyone else's, God wouldn't be on their side now would he?
You forgot the Romans..........such a post should be thrown into the GARBAGE CAN OF THE INSANE




NOPE the Romans were just like the muslims belligerent violent invaders
SO WERE THE JEWS CIRCA 1925 ONWARDS,you are SCREWED AGAIN




Nope as they were only defending what was theirs under International law. And the arab muslims started the violence in 1917 when they found they were to lose part of the M.E.

You do realize you make absolutely no sense. What international law gave part of the Middle East to European Jews?
 
Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.





Did his second cousin whose family had lived in Jerusalem from the first Temple have any connection. Did Ali ben nutjob from Mecca who went looking for work in 1890 have any connection to Jerusalem ?

The only people to move to Palestine in 1890 in any number were the European Jews. No one to speak of went to Palestine from Mecca. In fact, prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921




Proven to be false by the research done by the Catholic church


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000;
Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

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Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm



Go to the new address at the top of the link

Besides confirming the high rate of migration to Palestine by the Europeans, what does the population of Jerusalem have to do with the population of Palestine?




Where does it confirm a high rate of migration by only the Jews ?

The census covered the Sanjak of Jerusalem not just the city and this shows that the area was nearly all of modern day Israel

Ottoman_levant.png



Want to try again freddy boy ?

So, it is your contention that there were 16,270 people in the whole of Palestine in 1844. Interesting.
 
Did his second cousin whose family had lived in Jerusalem from the first Temple have any connection. Did Ali ben nutjob from Mecca who went looking for work in 1890 have any connection to Jerusalem ?

The only people to move to Palestine in 1890 in any number were the European Jews. No one to speak of went to Palestine from Mecca. In fact, prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921




Proven to be false by the research done by the Catholic church


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000;
Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm



Go to the new address at the top of the link

Besides confirming the high rate of migration to Palestine by the Europeans, what does the population of Jerusalem have to do with the population of Palestine?




Where does it confirm a high rate of migration by only the Jews ?

The census covered the Sanjak of Jerusalem not just the city and this shows that the area was nearly all of modern day Israel

Ottoman_levant.png



Want to try again freddy boy ?

So, it is your contention that there were 16,270 people in the whole of Palestine in 1844. Interesting.

Phoenell, I don't think monte and Indofred are the same guy.
 
It's possible they may have a point. While there is no doubt Jerusalem was the centre of the Temple cult of Judaism, that's not to say the native population of Jerusalem were all adherants to that cult. Here's a couple of interesting articles that illustrate the point,

"An ancient pagan temple was found just three miles from Jerusalem. It dates from the time that the Biblical Temple to the true God was in operation. The discovery shows what the Prophets were railing against, God’s people turning to idols. Solomon built the Temple in accord with God’s commands, but he then built temples to other deities to please his pagan wives."

Pagan temple found just outside Jerusalem

and

"The Bible imagines the religion of ancient Israel as purely monotheistic. And doubtless there were Israelites, particularly those associated with the Jerusalem Temple, who were strict monotheists. But the archaeological evidence (and the Bible, too, if you read it closely enough) suggests that the monotheism of many Israelites was far from pure. For them, Yahweh (the name of the Israelite god) was not the only divinity. Some Israelites believed that Yahweh had a female consort. And many Israelites invoked the divinity with the help of images, particularly figurines. I call this Israelite religion pagan Yahwism.
The archaeological evidence we will look at comes mostly from Judah in what is known in archaeological terms as the Assyrian period, the span from 721 B.C.E., when the Assyrians destroyed the northern kingdom of Israel, until 586 B.C.E., when the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem, destroyed the Temple and brought an end to the Davidic dynasty in Judah. This period, to put it into perspective, is several centuries after King Solomon built the Jerusalem Temple in about 950 B.C.E. So the archaeological evidence we are about to discuss documents a level of Israelite paganism long after Solomon built an exclusive home for Israel’s god."
Pagan Yahwism The Folk Religion of Ancient Israel The BAS Library
 
Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. Why? Because dspite repeated attempts to make it otherwise Jews repelled every invading army and defeated every foe in battle.

If Jerusalem and Israel was anyone else's, God wouldn't be on their side now would he?
You forgot the Romans..........such a post should be thrown into the GARBAGE CAN OF THE INSANE




NOPE the Romans were just like the muslims belligerent violent invaders
SO WERE THE JEWS CIRCA 1925 ONWARDS,you are SCREWED AGAIN




Nope as they were only defending what was theirs under International law. And the arab muslims started the violence in 1917 when they found they were to lose part of the M.E.

You do realize you make absolutely no sense. What international law gave part of the Middle East to European Jews?





LoN Mandate of Palestine of course, and this was reinforced by the

OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
SUPPLEMENT No. 11

UNITED NATIONSSPECIAL COMMITTEEON PALESTINE

REPORT TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

That clearly says that the arab muslims don't have any rights to Jewish Palestine.



 
It's possible they may have a point. While there is no doubt Jerusalem was the centre of the Temple cult of Judaism, that's not to say the native population of Jerusalem were all adherants to that cult. Here's a couple of interesting articles that illustrate the point,

"An ancient pagan temple was found just three miles from Jerusalem. It dates from the time that the Biblical Temple to the true God was in operation. The discovery shows what the Prophets were railing against, God’s people turning to idols. Solomon built the Temple in accord with God’s commands, but he then built temples to other deities to please his pagan wives."

Pagan temple found just outside Jerusalem

and

"The Bible imagines the religion of ancient Israel as purely monotheistic. And doubtless there were Israelites, particularly those associated with the Jerusalem Temple, who were strict monotheists. But the archaeological evidence (and the Bible, too, if you read it closely enough) suggests that the monotheism of many Israelites was far from pure. For them, Yahweh (the name of the Israelite god) was not the only divinity. Some Israelites believed that Yahweh had a female consort. And many Israelites invoked the divinity with the help of images, particularly figurines. I call this Israelite religion pagan Yahwism.
The archaeological evidence we will look at comes mostly from Judah in what is known in archaeological terms as the Assyrian period, the span from 721 B.C.E., when the Assyrians destroyed the northern kingdom of Israel, until 586 B.C.E., when the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem, destroyed the Temple and brought an end to the Davidic dynasty in Judah. This period, to put it into perspective, is several centuries after King Solomon built the Jerusalem Temple in about 950 B.C.E. So the archaeological evidence we are about to discuss documents a level of Israelite paganism long after Solomon built an exclusive home for Israel’s god."
Pagan Yahwism The Folk Religion of Ancient Israel The BAS Library

Hurrians, assyrians, egyptians, local canaanites, moabites and aegean sea people were all criss crossing the land before and during the first temple period. Babylonians brought their own gods when they conquered.
The find was not in Jerusalem but between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. There are lots of things still be found. Every dig in Israel has the possibility that antiquities will delay or saved as a historic site.
 
Did his second cousin whose family had lived in Jerusalem from the first Temple have any connection. Did Ali ben nutjob from Mecca who went looking for work in 1890 have any connection to Jerusalem ?

The only people to move to Palestine in 1890 in any number were the European Jews. No one to speak of went to Palestine from Mecca. In fact, prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921




Proven to be false by the research done by the Catholic church


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000;
Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

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Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm



Go to the new address at the top of the link

Besides confirming the high rate of migration to Palestine by the Europeans, what does the population of Jerusalem have to do with the population of Palestine?




Where does it confirm a high rate of migration by only the Jews ?

The census covered the Sanjak of Jerusalem not just the city and this shows that the area was nearly all of modern day Israel

Ottoman_levant.png



Want to try again freddy boy ?

So, it is your contention that there were 16,270 people in the whole of Palestine in 1844. Interesting.






No that is your belief fed by islamonazi propaganda, look at the map and you see two other sanjaks and what later became trans Jordan to take into account. Palestine as a whole included all that land, and the arab muslims used the whole population when it suits them, and you are suckered in by your Jew hatred's
 
The only people to move to Palestine in 1890 in any number were the European Jews. No one to speak of went to Palestine from Mecca. In fact, prior to 1850 there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921




Proven to be false by the research done by the Catholic church


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000;
Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm



Go to the new address at the top of the link

Besides confirming the high rate of migration to Palestine by the Europeans, what does the population of Jerusalem have to do with the population of Palestine?




Where does it confirm a high rate of migration by only the Jews ?

The census covered the Sanjak of Jerusalem not just the city and this shows that the area was nearly all of modern day Israel

Ottoman_levant.png



Want to try again freddy boy ?

So, it is your contention that there were 16,270 people in the whole of Palestine in 1844. Interesting.

Phoenell, I don't think monte and Indofred are the same guy.






Ask monte ?
 
It's possible they may have a point. While there is no doubt Jerusalem was the centre of the Temple cult of Judaism, that's not to say the native population of Jerusalem were all adherants to that cult. Here's a couple of interesting articles that illustrate the point,

"An ancient pagan temple was found just three miles from Jerusalem. It dates from the time that the Biblical Temple to the true God was in operation. The discovery shows what the Prophets were railing against, God’s people turning to idols. Solomon built the Temple in accord with God’s commands, but he then built temples to other deities to please his pagan wives."

Pagan temple found just outside Jerusalem

and

"The Bible imagines the religion of ancient Israel as purely monotheistic. And doubtless there were Israelites, particularly those associated with the Jerusalem Temple, who were strict monotheists. But the archaeological evidence (and the Bible, too, if you read it closely enough) suggests that the monotheism of many Israelites was far from pure. For them, Yahweh (the name of the Israelite god) was not the only divinity. Some Israelites believed that Yahweh had a female consort. And many Israelites invoked the divinity with the help of images, particularly figurines. I call this Israelite religion pagan Yahwism.
The archaeological evidence we will look at comes mostly from Judah in what is known in archaeological terms as the Assyrian period, the span from 721 B.C.E., when the Assyrians destroyed the northern kingdom of Israel, until 586 B.C.E., when the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem, destroyed the Temple and brought an end to the Davidic dynasty in Judah. This period, to put it into perspective, is several centuries after King Solomon built the Jerusalem Temple in about 950 B.C.E. So the archaeological evidence we are about to discuss documents a level of Israelite paganism long after Solomon built an exclusive home for Israel’s god."
Pagan Yahwism The Folk Religion of Ancient Israel The BAS Library

Hurrians, assyrians, egyptians, local canaanites, moabites and aegean sea people were all criss crossing the land before and during the first temple period. Babylonians brought their own gods when they conquered.
The find was not in Jerusalem but between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. There are lots of things still be found. Every dig in Israel has the possibility that antiquities will delay or saved as a historic site.

So what evidence is there that Jerusalem was exclusively Jewish?
 

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