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Jewish leaders aren't lying. Arabs adopted (more like hijacked) the name Palestinian in the mid 20th century, that is the truth. But for you not to be able to distinguish between a valid historical debate and the actual mass genocide of six million Jews speaks volumes about your state of mind.Jewish leaders have said that the Palestinian people don't exist. What's worse?
Not to be rude or anything, I consider you a very balanced poster, but when it comes to this, I think any 'outsider' doesn't get it.
I lived in the south for 25 years. I don't believe their words. I don't believe Netanyahu's words, either.
Fact is, from here, the sun and clouds are the same, reality doesn't change. As long as the reality is in which the sirens still cry from the speakers, I don't believe them.
They promised us that we won't suffer Missles or terror. That didn't happen. They break their promises all the time.
That is something that niether you, nor anyone other than the southerners, can really understand. I say it with sadness, not with reproach.
They can say, we can say. Reality is the same.
So you tell me, why should we believe any of that.?
I agree - your perspective, being in Israel, is going to be very different than mine.
I think though, at some point - pragmatism will win out, endless conflict achieves nothing.
You can be as pragmatic as you want but until you experience something first hand you don't really have a clue about it. What is needed is a bigger stick as shown by the Jordanians when the Palestinians decided they wanted to rule Jordan, 50,000 mass murdered inside the prison camps and they soon went quiet.
Jewish leaders have said that the Palestinian people don't exist. What's worse?
Me not so much? How did you figure that one out? You forget that you're the one who's famous for defending Islamic terrorism, as you are doing now. Your reputation precedes youThey're filled with asinine false comparisons. It's all they have to justify blatant Islamic terrorism. They are all reading from the same playbook, thinking they are fooling anybody, or somehow this time their lies will work. Never has, never will.
Nothing is being justified.
Most sane people consider the deliberate targeting and murder of innocent civilians to be reprehensible.
You - not so much.
Jewish leaders have said that the Palestinian people don't exist. What's worse?
You claimed that I don't consider murder of innocent civilians reprehensible, and now accusing me of making things up?Me not so much? How did you figure that one out? You forget that you're the one who's famous for defending Islamic terrorism, as you are doing now. Your reputation precedes youNothing is being justified.
Most sane people consider the deliberate targeting and murder of innocent civilians to be reprehensible.
You - not so much.
Nope. I've never defended terrorism. You are either confused or, as usual, making things up
You claimed that I don't consider murder of innocent civilians reprehensible, and now accusing me of making things up?Me not so much? How did you figure that one out? You forget that you're the one who's famous for defending Islamic terrorism, as you are doing now. Your reputation precedes you
Nope. I've never defended terrorism. You are either confused or, as usual, making things up
Nah, you're just an ignorant, mentally ill person who thinks the board doesn't remember all your defending of Islamists, women's rights abuses, and Shariah law.
Plus I am not interested in having a back and forth debate with a psychologically unstable person like you, so find a mental midget like yourself to nag and bitch with.
They're filled with asinine false comparisons. It's all they have to justify blatant Islamic terrorism. They are all reading from the same playbook, thinking they are fooling anybody, or somehow this time their lies will work. Never has, never will.
Nothing is being justified.
Most sane people consider the deliberate targeting and murder of innocent civilians to be reprehensible.
You - not so much.
What innocent civilians would that be then ?
Maybe you'll start pointing terrorist attacks by Islamists like Hamas, today. Maybe you'll stop defending shariah law. Maybe you'll stop claiming that Islam having nothing to do with lack of women's rights in Muslim countries. Maybe you'll stop having online relationships with backwards ass Islamic Neanderthals like Sunni.maybe you'll stop making it look like Child Marriage isn't mostly a Muslim thing.You claimed that I don't consider murder of innocent civilians reprehensible, and now accusing me of making things up?Nope. I've never defended terrorism. You are either confused or, as usual, making things up
Nah, you're just an ignorant, mentally ill person who thinks the board doesn't remember all your defending of Islamists, women's rights abuses, and Shariah law.
Plus I am not interested in having a back and forth debate with a psychologically unstable person like you, so find a mental midget like yourself to nag and bitch with.
Of course not, because all you can do is fling insults, take statements out of context and make stuff up when ask to support your claims.
When it comes to "defending terrorism" you've done an admirable job defending/excusing the terrorist actions of Irgun.
Terrorists are terrorists, unless you're Roudy and the terrorist groups are Jewish.
When terrorists make schools, markets, and public transportation their targets - that is inexcusable. Once you start trying to defend by claiming retaliation for the other sides offenses, you open up a defense for all kinds of atrocities by both sides.
Maybe Hamas won't change and recognize that the status quo is impossible to maintain, and maybe Abbas' words will be meaningless, but we'll see. I think that they are realizing that the course of action they've been engaged in for some time now has been destructive to the Palestinians and a more pragmatic view is needed - Israel is not going away and the international community is not particularly supportive of terrorist tactics.
Like I said, liar, Muslims drew first blood by committing the Hebron massacre and genocide upon the ancient Jews of Hebron. Which left Jews with no option but to defend themselves by creating groups like the Irgun and Haganah. That is a fact. Now run along. Islam defender.Nothing is being justified.
Most sane people consider the deliberate targeting and murder of innocent civilians to be reprehensible.
You - not so much.
What innocent civilians would that be then ?
List of Irgun attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Like I said, liar, Muslims drew first blood by committing the Hebron massacre and genocide upon the ancient Jews of Hebron. Which left Jews with no option but to defend themselves by creating groups like the Irgun and Haganah. That is a fact. Now run along. Islam defender.What innocent civilians would that be then ?
List of Irgun attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Like I said, liar, Muslims drew first blood by committing the Hebron massacre and genocide upon the ancient Jews of Hebron. Which left Jews with no option but to defend themselves by creating groups like the Irgun and Haganah. That is a fact. Now run along. Islam defender.
1938, July 6 18 Arabs and 5 Jews were killed by two simultaneous bombs in the Arab melon market in Haifa. More than 60 people were wounded. [14][16][17]
1938, July 16 10 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Jerusalem. [14]
1938, July 25 43 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Haifa. [14][18]
1938, August 26 24 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Jaffa.
Innocent civilians Roudy.
Men, women, and children.
And you're defending it. That's rich.
Maybe you'll start pointing terrorist attacks by Islamists like Hamas, today. Maybe you'll stop defending shariah law. Maybe you'll stop claiming that Islam having nothing to do with lack of women's rights in Muslim countries. Maybe you'll stop having online relationships with backwards ass Islamic Neanderthals like Sunni.maybe you'll stop making it look like Child Marriage isn't mostly a Muslim thing.You claimed that I don't consider murder of innocent civilians reprehensible, and now accusing me of making things up?
Nah, you're just an ignorant, mentally ill person who thinks the board doesn't remember all your defending of Islamists, women's rights abuses, and Shariah law.
Plus I am not interested in having a back and forth debate with a psychologically unstable person like you, so find a mental midget like yourself to nag and bitch with.
Of course not, because all you can do is fling insults, take statements out of context and make stuff up when ask to support your claims.
When it comes to "defending terrorism" you've done an admirable job defending/excusing the terrorist actions of Irgun.
Terrorists are terrorists, unless you're Roudy and the terrorist groups are Jewish.
When terrorists make schools, markets, and public transportation their targets - that is inexcusable. Once you start trying to defend by claiming retaliation for the other sides offenses, you open up a defense for all kinds of atrocities by both sides.
Maybe Hamas won't change and recognize that the status quo is impossible to maintain, and maybe Abbas' words will be meaningless, but we'll see. I think that they are realizing that the course of action they've been engaged in for some time now has been destructive to the Palestinians and a more pragmatic view is needed - Israel is not going away and the international community is not particularly supportive of terrorist tactics.
There are threads dedicated to your ignorance and stupidity and your defense of everything and anything Islam in the flame zone, and this isn't one of them.
Remember, you were the one that attacked me and claimed I don't care about innocent lives. I have tried to avoid you, because you are a deceptive despicable person, and nothing but trouble. We can continue, and I can embarrass and expose you as I have many times before. As I said your record speaks for itself,and easy to search. You have a way of injecting yourself into a thread and infecting it with your vomit, mental illness and ignorance.
I never said I defend the murder of innocent people, Jewish or non Jewish, those who intentionally target innocent people should be punished. While Israel has a legal system that punishes those who violate their principles and human rights, Hamas and your beloved Islamic groups actually encourage it.Maybe you'll start pointing terrorist attacks by Islamists like Hamas, today. Maybe you'll stop defending shariah law. Maybe you'll stop claiming that Islam having nothing to do with lack of women's rights in Muslim countries. Maybe you'll stop having online relationships with backwards ass Islamic Neanderthals like Sunni.maybe you'll stop making it look like Child Marriage isn't mostly a Muslim thing.Of course not, because all you can do is fling insults, take statements out of context and make stuff up when ask to support your claims.
When it comes to "defending terrorism" you've done an admirable job defending/excusing the terrorist actions of Irgun.
Terrorists are terrorists, unless you're Roudy and the terrorist groups are Jewish.
When terrorists make schools, markets, and public transportation their targets - that is inexcusable. Once you start trying to defend by claiming retaliation for the other sides offenses, you open up a defense for all kinds of atrocities by both sides.
Maybe Hamas won't change and recognize that the status quo is impossible to maintain, and maybe Abbas' words will be meaningless, but we'll see. I think that they are realizing that the course of action they've been engaged in for some time now has been destructive to the Palestinians and a more pragmatic view is needed - Israel is not going away and the international community is not particularly supportive of terrorist tactics.
There are threads dedicated to your ignorance and stupidity and your defense of everything and anything Islam in the flame zone, and this isn't one of them.
Remember, you were the one that attacked me and claimed I don't care about innocent lives. I have tried to avoid you, because you are a deceptive despicable person, and nothing but trouble. We can continue, and I can embarrass and expose you as I have many times before. As I said your record speaks for itself,and easy to search. You have a way of injecting yourself into a thread and infecting it with your vomit, mental illness and ignorance.
You don't.
Your defense of terrorism (when the group conducting it meets your approval) is spelled out right here. Own your words Roudy.
There's no excuse for targeting and murdering civilians - whether it's Hamas, Irgun, or any other group.
Maybe Hamas will recognize this and move away from it.
Jewish leaders have said that the Palestinian people don't exist. What's worse?
The people obviously exist, but as arabs not palestinians, until they establish a state through peaceful negotiations.
There was no "palestinian" state in the past. Jerusalem was not the capital under arab rule. The capital was Ramallah.
Half the people listed as palestinians immigrated for jobs and left when the arab states attacked Israel.
Even if some of them were once jewish, it also proves that jews never left and have existed since the time of Abraham. They want to live as Israelis, have not committed acts of terrorism, willing to learn arabic, can find a job and live in peace for two year, they get their citizenship. If they are of age, they might have to serve in the IDF or equal time with some social or charity service to benefit the Israeli people (all the people regardless of heritage or religion).
Those born in the mandate have had the right to return to Israel, but many want to stay with their family born outside, or they want the fantasy promised by the arab state when they left.
I never said I defend the murder of innocent people, Jewish or non Jewish, those who intentionally target innocent people should be punished. While Israel has a legal system that punishes those who violate their principles and human rights, Hamas and your beloved Islamic groups actually encourage it.Maybe you'll start pointing terrorist attacks by Islamists like Hamas, today. Maybe you'll stop defending shariah law. Maybe you'll stop claiming that Islam having nothing to do with lack of women's rights in Muslim countries. Maybe you'll stop having online relationships with backwards ass Islamic Neanderthals like Sunni.maybe you'll stop making it look like Child Marriage isn't mostly a Muslim thing.
There are threads dedicated to your ignorance and stupidity and your defense of everything and anything Islam in the flame zone, and this isn't one of them.
Remember, you were the one that attacked me and claimed I don't care about innocent lives. I have tried to avoid you, because you are a deceptive despicable person, and nothing but trouble. We can continue, and I can embarrass and expose you as I have many times before. As I said your record speaks for itself,and easy to search. You have a way of injecting yourself into a thread and infecting it with your vomit, mental illness and ignorance.
You don't.
Your defense of terrorism (when the group conducting it meets your approval) is spelled out right here. Own your words Roudy.
There's no excuse for targeting and murdering civilians - whether it's Hamas, Irgun, or any other group.
Maybe Hamas will recognize this and move away from it.
You as a defender of Islamic terrorist groups should be the last person acting as if you're concerned about innocent life. Like I said your record speaks for itself.
Like I said, liar, Muslims drew first blood by committing the Hebron massacre and genocide upon the ancient Jews of Hebron. Which left Jews with no option but to defend themselves by creating groups like the Irgun and Haganah. That is a fact. Now run along. Islam defender.What innocent civilians would that be then ?
List of Irgun attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
