Palestine Today

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is more "disinformation" you are spreading.

May I remind you that this was before the UN carved Palestine into three areas of occupation.

(COMMENT)

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48). It is about as valid as a three dollar bill.

◈ The All Palestine Government never had independent control over any of the territories it claims.
◈ The All Palestine Government was disbanded by the Egyptians in 1959.​

BTW, I like the disclaimer on the bottom of that map of Israel.

(COMMENT)

The disclaimer only lets you know that the true (official) boundaries are not reliant on their map, but instead, it is dependent on what the Israelis have to claim. The impression you give is that somehow, the disclaimer invalidates the accuracy of the map (given the scale). That would be an improper interpretation.

You (the Arab Palestinians) and the entire Arab League can contest the boundaries. The requirement of territory does not require a State to have undisputed borders. The very notion of a border for a state (which supports statehood) is based on the sovereignty and territoriality established by "fixed boundaries." The Arab Palestinians, and in particular the "All Palestine Government," had not established any actual boundaries.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is more "disinformation" you are spreading.

May I remind you that this was before the UN carved Palestine into three areas of occupation.

(COMMENT)

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48). It is about as valid as a three dollar bill.

◈ The All Palestine Government never had independent control over any of the territories it claims.
◈ The All Palestine Government was disbanded by the Egyptians in 1959.​

BTW, I like the disclaimer on the bottom of that map of Israel.

(COMMENT)

The disclaimer only lets you know that the true (official) boundaries are not reliant on their map, but instead, it is dependent on what the Israelis have to claim. The impression you give is that somehow, the disclaimer invalidates the accuracy of the map (given the scale). That would be an improper interpretation.

You (the Arab Palestinians) and the entire Arab League can contest the boundaries. The requirement of territory does not require a State to have undisputed borders. The very notion of a border for a state (which supports statehood) is based on the sovereignty and territoriality established by "fixed boundaries." The Arab Palestinians, and in particular the "All Palestine Government," had not established any actual boundaries.


Most Respectfully,
R

◈ The All Palestine Government never had independent control over any of the territories it claims.

Are you saying that an occupation voids peoples rights?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is more "disinformation" you are spreading.

May I remind you that this was before the UN carved Palestine into three areas of occupation.

(COMMENT)

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48). It is about as valid as a three dollar bill.

◈ The All Palestine Government never had independent control over any of the territories it claims.
◈ The All Palestine Government was disbanded by the Egyptians in 1959.​

BTW, I like the disclaimer on the bottom of that map of Israel.

(COMMENT)

The disclaimer only lets you know that the true (official) boundaries are not reliant on their map, but instead, it is dependent on what the Israelis have to claim. The impression you give is that somehow, the disclaimer invalidates the accuracy of the map (given the scale). That would be an improper interpretation.

You (the Arab Palestinians) and the entire Arab League can contest the boundaries. The requirement of territory does not require a State to have undisputed borders. The very notion of a border for a state (which supports statehood) is based on the sovereignty and territoriality established by "fixed boundaries." The Arab Palestinians, and in particular the "All Palestine Government," had not established any actual boundaries.


Most Respectfully,
R

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48).

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is more "disinformation" you are spreading.

May I remind you that this was before the UN carved Palestine into three areas of occupation.

(COMMENT)

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48). It is about as valid as a three dollar bill.

◈ The All Palestine Government never had independent control over any of the territories it claims.
◈ The All Palestine Government was disbanded by the Egyptians in 1959.​

BTW, I like the disclaimer on the bottom of that map of Israel.

(COMMENT)

The disclaimer only lets you know that the true (official) boundaries are not reliant on their map, but instead, it is dependent on what the Israelis have to claim. The impression you give is that somehow, the disclaimer invalidates the accuracy of the map (given the scale). That would be an improper interpretation.

You (the Arab Palestinians) and the entire Arab League can contest the boundaries. The requirement of territory does not require a State to have undisputed borders. The very notion of a border for a state (which supports statehood) is based on the sovereignty and territoriality established by "fixed boundaries." The Arab Palestinians, and in particular the "All Palestine Government," had not established any actual boundaries.


Most Respectfully,
R

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48).

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

 

[USAF 2023]

International recognition of Israel - Wikipedia

Israel is an " undefined blob" inside " Palestine's" borders?? Don't think so! Keep trying to talk yourself into believing your own Bull Shit

Your link does not mention any defined territory or borders for Israel.

You mean the borders that the Arab World did not recognize prior to 1967?


WHAT A SHOCK !!!
srael has diplomatic relations with 163 of the 193 UN member states as of December 2018.[1] Israel maintains full diplomatic relations and open borders with two of its Arab neighbours, Egypt and Jordan, after signing peace treaties in 1979 and 1994 respectively. Thirty UN member states do not recognize Israel. These include 17 of the 22 members of the Arab League: Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates and Yemen. A further 9 are members of Organisation of Islamic Cooperation: Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Brunei, Indonesia, Iran, Malaysia, Mali, Niger and Pakistan

Israeli territory is always defined by armistice lines. The armistice lines were specifically not to be political or territorial borders.

So...

International recognition of Israel - Wikipedia

Israel is an " undefined blob" inside " Palestine's" borders?? Don't think so! Keep trying to talk yourself into believing your own Bull Shit

Your link does not mention any defined territory or borders for Israel.

You mean the borders that the Arab World did not recognize prior to 1967?


WHAT A SHOCK !!!
srael has diplomatic relations with 163 of the 193 UN member states as of December 2018.[1] Israel maintains full diplomatic relations and open borders with two of its Arab neighbours, Egypt and Jordan, after signing peace treaties in 1979 and 1994 respectively. Thirty UN member states do not recognize Israel. These include 17 of the 22 members of the Arab League: Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates and Yemen. A further 9 are members of Organisation of Islamic Cooperation: Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Brunei, Indonesia, Iran, Malaysia, Mali, Niger and Pakistan

Israeli territory is always defined by armistice lines. The armistice lines were specifically not to be political or territorial borders.

So...

Maybe you can “ enlighten “ us then as to what the Armistice lines mean
IF Israel never had borders then Israel has no reason to go back to something that never existed in the first place

No answer to my question? How typical

 

[ForeverYoung436]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I don't think I directed against fallacious speech against the HoAP position they are maintaining.

Oh my, so much slime.

Are hit pieces all you post?

(COMMENT)

None of my posts are intentionally written aimed at sway the discussion opinion by presenting false or biased information. It is what it is → being descriptive of real-world events.


Most Respectfully,
R

Are you kidding? Your posts are full of name calling and slime.

You pretend that meaningless stuff is legitimate like always bringing up Israel's territorial integrity. What dies that mean when Israel is an undefined blob inside Palestine's international borders?

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I don't think I directed against fallacious speech against the HoAP position they are maintaining.

Oh my, so much slime.

Are hit pieces all you post?

(COMMENT)

None of my posts are intentionally written aimed at sway the discussion opinion by presenting false or biased information. It is what it is → being descriptive of real-world events.


Most Respectfully,
R

Are you kidding? Your posts are full of name calling and slime.

You pretend that meaningless stuff is legitimate like always bringing up Israel's territorial integrity. What dies that mean when Israel is an undefined blob inside Palestine's international borders?

International recognition of Israel - Wikipedia

Israel is an " undefined blob" inside " Palestine's" borders?? Don't think so! Keep trying to talk yourself into believing your own Bull Shit

Your link does not mention any defined territory or borders for Israel.

You mean the borders that the Arab World did not recognize prior to 1967?


WHAT A SHOCK !!!
srael has diplomatic relations with 163 of the 193 UN member states as of December 2018.[1] Israel maintains full diplomatic relations and open borders with two of its Arab neighbours, Egypt and Jordan, after signing peace treaties in 1979 and 1994 respectively. Thirty UN member states do not recognize Israel. These include 17 of the 22 members of the Arab League: Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates and Yemen. A further 9 are members of Organisation of Islamic Cooperation: Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Brunei, Indonesia, Iran, Malaysia, Mali, Niger and Pakistan

Some Arab states are starting to warm up to Israel, such as Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is more "disinformation" you are spreading.

May I remind you that this was before the UN carved Palestine into three areas of occupation.

(COMMENT)

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48). It is about as valid as a three dollar bill.

◈ The All Palestine Government never had independent control over any of the territories it claims.
◈ The All Palestine Government was disbanded by the Egyptians in 1959.​

BTW, I like the disclaimer on the bottom of that map of Israel.

(COMMENT)

The disclaimer only lets you know that the true (official) boundaries are not reliant on their map, but instead, it is dependent on what the Israelis have to claim. The impression you give is that somehow, the disclaimer invalidates the accuracy of the map (given the scale). That would be an improper interpretation.

You (the Arab Palestinians) and the entire Arab League can contest the boundaries. The requirement of territory does not require a State to have undisputed borders. The very notion of a border for a state (which supports statehood) is based on the sovereignty and territoriality established by "fixed boundaries." The Arab Palestinians, and in particular the "All Palestine Government," had not established any actual boundaries.


Most Respectfully,
R

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48).

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=State_of_Palestine&diff=next&oldid=458697488

 

[ForeverYoung436]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is more "disinformation" you are spreading.

May I remind you that this was before the UN carved Palestine into three areas of occupation.

(COMMENT)

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48). It is about as valid as a three dollar bill.

◈ The All Palestine Government never had independent control over any of the territories it claims.
◈ The All Palestine Government was disbanded by the Egyptians in 1959.​

BTW, I like the disclaimer on the bottom of that map of Israel.

(COMMENT)

The disclaimer only lets you know that the true (official) boundaries are not reliant on their map, but instead, it is dependent on what the Israelis have to claim. The impression you give is that somehow, the disclaimer invalidates the accuracy of the map (given the scale). That would be an improper interpretation.

You (the Arab Palestinians) and the entire Arab League can contest the boundaries. The requirement of territory does not require a State to have undisputed borders. The very notion of a border for a state (which supports statehood) is based on the sovereignty and territoriality established by "fixed boundaries." The Arab Palestinians, and in particular the "All Palestine Government," had not established any actual boundaries.


Most Respectfully,
R

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48).

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

 

[USAF 2023]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is more "disinformation" you are spreading.

May I remind you that this was before the UN carved Palestine into three areas of occupation.

(COMMENT)

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48). It is about as valid as a three dollar bill.

◈ The All Palestine Government never had independent control over any of the territories it claims.
◈ The All Palestine Government was disbanded by the Egyptians in 1959.​

BTW, I like the disclaimer on the bottom of that map of Israel.

(COMMENT)

The disclaimer only lets you know that the true (official) boundaries are not reliant on their map, but instead, it is dependent on what the Israelis have to claim. The impression you give is that somehow, the disclaimer invalidates the accuracy of the map (given the scale). That would be an improper interpretation.

You (the Arab Palestinians) and the entire Arab League can contest the boundaries. The requirement of territory does not require a State to have undisputed borders. The very notion of a border for a state (which supports statehood) is based on the sovereignty and territoriality established by "fixed boundaries." The Arab Palestinians, and in particular the "All Palestine Government," had not established any actual boundaries.


Most Respectfully,
R

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48).

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

 

[USAF 2023]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is more "disinformation" you are spreading.

(COMMENT)

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48). It is about as valid as a three dollar bill.

◈ The All Palestine Government never had independent control over any of the territories it claims.
◈ The All Palestine Government was disbanded by the Egyptians in 1959.​

(COMMENT)

The disclaimer only lets you know that the true (official) boundaries are not reliant on their map, but instead, it is dependent on what the Israelis have to claim. The impression you give is that somehow, the disclaimer invalidates the accuracy of the map (given the scale). That would be an improper interpretation.

You (the Arab Palestinians) and the entire Arab League can contest the boundaries. The requirement of territory does not require a State to have undisputed borders. The very notion of a border for a state (which supports statehood) is based on the sovereignty and territoriality established by "fixed boundaries." The Arab Palestinians, and in particular the "All Palestine Government," had not established any actual boundaries.


Most Respectfully,
R

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48).

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Regarding Pro Palestinian Bull Shit; HIS claim that he INITIATED on this board claiming that there is no Anti Semitism; Pro Israel Groups are just lying for their own purposes

Police: 5 stabbed at Hanukkah celebration north of NYC

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Regarding Pro Palestinian Bull Shit; HIS claim that he INITIATED on this board claiming that there is no Anti Semitism; Pro Israel Groups are just lying for their own purposes

Police: 5 stabbed at Hanukkah celebration north of NYC

Of course, there is anti-Semitism and Jew-hatred! These 5 Jews were stabbed by a Muslim, who was probably inpired by pro-Palestinian propaganda.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Regarding Pro Palestinian Bull Shit; HIS claim that he INITIATED on this board claiming that there is no Anti Semitism; Pro Israel Groups are just lying for their own purposes

Police: 5 stabbed at Hanukkah celebration north of NYC

It is a mistake to consider Tinmore pro Palestinian. He is simply anti Israel and anti semitic and the so called Palestinians provide him with a platform from which to attack Israel and Jews.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Regarding Pro Palestinian Bull Shit; HIS claim that he INITIATED on this board claiming that there is no Anti Semitism; Pro Israel Groups are just lying for their own purposes

Police: 5 stabbed at Hanukkah celebration north of NYC

Of course, there is anti-Semitism and Jew-hatred! These 5 Jews were stabbed by a Muslim, who was probably inpired by pro-Palestinian propaganda.

Pro Palestinian is just a mask anti semites wear.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is more "disinformation" you are spreading.

(COMMENT)

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48). It is about as valid as a three dollar bill.

◈ The All Palestine Government never had independent control over any of the territories it claims.
◈ The All Palestine Government was disbanded by the Egyptians in 1959.​

(COMMENT)

The disclaimer only lets you know that the true (official) boundaries are not reliant on their map, but instead, it is dependent on what the Israelis have to claim. The impression you give is that somehow, the disclaimer invalidates the accuracy of the map (given the scale). That would be an improper interpretation.

You (the Arab Palestinians) and the entire Arab League can contest the boundaries. The requirement of territory does not require a State to have undisputed borders. The very notion of a border for a state (which supports statehood) is based on the sovereignty and territoriality established by "fixed boundaries." The Arab Palestinians, and in particular the "All Palestine Government," had not established any actual boundaries.


Most Respectfully,
R

Oh, come now. You know very well that this comes three months "AFTER" the Israelis declare independence (May '48).

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

 

[USAF 2023]

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Regarding Pro Palestinian Bull Shit; HIS claim that he INITIATED on this board claiming that there is no Anti Semitism; Pro Israel Groups are just lying for their own purposes

Police: 5 stabbed at Hanukkah celebration north of NYC

Of course, there is anti-Semitism and Jew-hatred! These 5 Jews were stabbed by a Muslim, who was probably inpired by pro-Palestinian propaganda.

Not according to Tinmore
Have you seen his posts where he claims that Pro Israel groups are using the Anti Semitic card as an excuse?

 

[USAF 2023]

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

Declared independence where? Can one state declare independence inside another states international borders?

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

No it wasn’t. I asked you to explain the “ difference “ between borders and “ Armistice Lines . You either can’t or won’t
IF they weren’t borders in the first place; Israel is not mandated to go back to them.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

Palestine wasn't a state. It was a geographic area.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

No it wasn’t. I asked you to explain the “ difference “ between borders and “ Armistice Lines . You either can’t or won’t
IF they weren’t borders in the first place; Israel is not mandated to go back to them.

The question that you ducked is why does everyone use armistice lines for Israel's borders instead of using real borders?

Armistice lines are only lines that military forces cannot cross.

Only the people who believe in two states mention the "67 borders."

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

No it wasn’t. I asked you to explain the “ difference “ between borders and “ Armistice Lines . You either can’t or won’t
IF they weren’t borders in the first place; Israel is not mandated to go back to them.

The question that you ducked is why does everyone use armistice lines for Israel's borders instead of using real borders?

Armistice lines are only lines that military forces cannot cross.

Only the people who believe in two states mention the "67 borders."

The armistice lines are what ppl use to determine what the borders might look like in a final agreement. Actually, the Palestinians are much more passionate about those lines than the Israelis are, because Israel wants more land from the West Bank to become a part of Israel proper. For instance, when Obama mentioned the 1967 lines once, Netanyahu got very mad at him. If Netanyahu gets re-elected, he has vowed to start annexing large parts of Judea and Samaria, such as the Jordan Valley, Gush Etzion and the settlement blocs.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

No it wasn’t. I asked you to explain the “ difference “ between borders and “ Armistice Lines . You either can’t or won’t
IF they weren’t borders in the first place; Israel is not mandated to go back to them.

The question that you ducked is why does everyone use armistice lines for Israel's borders instead of using real borders?

Armistice lines are only lines that military forces cannot cross.

Only the people who believe in two states mention the "67 borders."

Keep in mind, if you want a one-state solution instead of two, that that one state will be Israel only, and not Palestine.

 

[USAF 2023]

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

Israeli bullshit, of course.

Decisions of international and national tribunals
The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[25]

State of Palestine: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

The San Remo Conference and the Balfour Declaration preceded that.

Aside from that, isn't it futile to go over this ground again and again and again? Israel is a member state of the U.N. It will never be destroyed. A Palestinian state was declared in the West Bank in 1988, and most of the world recognizes that entity, actually. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct your efforts in that direction? It's been 3 generations since 1948, and its citizens there consider themselves full Israelis, including its Christians, Druze and even some Muslims. I don't know how you don't get bored going around in the same circles so many times.

Notice how he refused 2 answer my question? Pro Palestinian Bull Shit of course

Your question was a deflection.

No it wasn’t. I asked you to explain the “ difference “ between borders and “ Armistice Lines . You either can’t or won’t
IF they weren’t borders in the first place; Israel is not mandated to go back to them.

The question that you ducked is why does everyone use armistice lines for Israel's borders instead of using real borders?

Armistice lines are only lines that military forces cannot cross.

Only the people who believe in two states mention the "67 borders."

Then please tell us why we hear so much about the “ Two State Solution “ on the “ 67 Border”and why the “International Community “ recognizes it as such